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(CBS Dallas/Ft. Worth)   Parents, do you want to completely alienate your 11-year-old? Tell him he's required to ride in a car booster seat until he's 12   (dfw.cbslocal.com) divider line 175
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2013-11-11 04:08:25 PM
My ex-GF's nephew, at 12, was 5'11 and weighed 180lbs.  Good luck finding him a booster seat.

/now 14, he's 6'4", 220lbs and has a size 14 shoe.
 
2013-11-11 04:11:57 PM
So if I essentially stopped growing at 12...
 
2013-11-11 04:15:06 PM
Jeebus.

If you want to know why Americans have large cars, minivans, and SUVs, look at the size of the baby seats and boosters.

Went to Scotland a few weeks ago - saw multiple people with baby seats in the front passenger seat.  No way you're getting away with that in the US.
 
2013-11-11 05:17:19 PM
"all that stuff" is sure dangerous.
 
2013-11-11 05:20:06 PM
I was like taller than the short end of average for an adult at 12.
 
2013-11-11 05:20:52 PM
So if you are an adult on the smallish side should you also be required to use a booster? "Sorry, Betty, you weigh under 100 lbs so into the car seat you go." Stupid.
 
2013-11-11 05:21:10 PM
....and in three years, they can drive themselves!!
 
2013-11-11 05:21:18 PM
When did common sense fly out the window in this country?
 
2013-11-11 05:24:09 PM

timujin: My ex-GF's nephew, at 12, was 5'11 and weighed 180lbs.  Good luck finding him a booster seat.

/now 14, he's 6'4", 220lbs and has a size 14 shoe.


This. I'm not a huge guy but I'd have been hitting my head on the ceiling with any kind of booster seat at that age.
 
2013-11-11 05:24:10 PM
My son is 11 and I tried to get him to ditch the booster last year when I got my new car, but he said it felt weird to be without it. I don't feel so bad now. He doesn't take it with him if he goes in someone else's car, but he seems to be comfortable with it in my car. He is on the small side, though, 4'3" and about 65 pounds. I showed this to him and he said, "See, I told you!"
 
2013-11-11 05:24:55 PM

Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?


About the time the boomers that killed thier brains with drugs in the '60s became in charge of the country.
 
2013-11-11 05:24:55 PM
I was my current height of 5'6" at age 11.  I am now 31.  If I needed a booster seat then, I still need one now.

Sorry, but this is silly.  How about, instead of an age, make the restriction on height?  Seems smarter to me.
 
2013-11-11 05:25:25 PM

Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?


I realize this is rhetorical, but it started when we started letting the insurance companies buy new laws.
 
2013-11-11 05:26:00 PM

Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?


When parents coddling their 4 month old firstborn decided that all previous generations of parents did it wrong. They never pass up an opportunity to let Facebook know.
 
2013-11-11 05:26:04 PM
Poor kids. I was out of the booster seat in early elementary school.

No wonder kids are such wusses these days. They have no dignity.
 
2013-11-11 05:26:28 PM
My stepson was taller than my wife by 12.

Try to tell her SHE needs a booster seat.

I'm not going to.

I live with her and she knows where the knives are.

/Have to sleep sometime
 
2013-11-11 05:27:33 PM
'Safety Institute' = Consortium of companies that make booster seats.

Wasn't it in Freakonomics where they sat the child-sized crash dummies in seatbelts alone and they passed the federal laws for all of the impact tests? meaning that technically speaking, a seat belt is sufficiently safe, but was not officially certified.

The most telling part of that story was that they had trouble even hiring a company to do the tests, because all these companies do business with the child seat manufacturers too.  Ultimately they found one to run the test, but the authors weren't allowed to mention the name of the company their worked with.
 
2013-11-11 05:28:07 PM
Seems to be a current and reliable source for all states. The requirements are all over the place depending on where you live. Let's not forget if you have a kid on a motorcycle or in a pickup truck, all these rules seem to go out the window.
 
2013-11-11 05:28:43 PM
reminds me of an episode of Wife Swap. Brown/Neighbors episode. The Neighbors mom and dad were insane. The almost 10yo son and almost 11yo daughter had to ride in booster seats.. and HATED it. It is one episode I recommend because of the insane mom.
 
2013-11-11 05:28:50 PM
If only there was some more direct measure available to determine when people -- including adults -- do or do not need seating modification to secure them in a crash. Some sort of quantification system for "tallness" or the like, so we could calculate whether the standard seating was sufficient. But obviously that doesn't exist, so I guess the only thing we can actually measure is age.

But that would require us to admit that discrimination by age is arbitrary in the first place, and that's a whole can of worms.
 
2013-11-11 05:28:53 PM
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No prob, mom.
 
2013-11-11 05:29:01 PM
Show me the statistics for the number of children killed in car accidents 12 and under...and we'll talk.  Until then, take your "won't someone do SOMETHING to make the children safer??!?!?!?!" rant and shove it.

 (a quick Google search only shows that DRIVER age is tracked, not passenger)
 
2013-11-11 05:29:46 PM
Give him a gun in the meantime. Maybe two just to be sure.
 
2013-11-11 05:30:26 PM
I don't recall ever sitting in a booster seat. Perhaps the laws in Wisconsin back then were much looser than today's laws. Is this booster seat thing a recent phenomenon?
 
2013-11-11 05:30:36 PM
this is the only way to be safe. But your clothes wrinkle and you get sweaty.

People would rather die than drive in this.

I think if this interior was available, I would go for it
static.ddmcdn.com
 
2013-11-11 05:31:58 PM
And while we're at it, maybe women shouldn't drive. Hurts their lady-parts, or so I've been told.
 
2013-11-11 05:32:12 PM
This study brought to you by the Booster seat manufacturers lobby.
 
2013-11-11 05:32:51 PM
My 11 year old is 5 feet even and 105 lbs...built like a brick I might add...no way he'd ride in a booster seat comfortably.  He's the size I was when I started driving for goodness sake, so I'm pretty sure a seat belt is fine.  Most of the time, I even let him ride shotgun, unless there is another adult in the car.  I'll pay a fine before I change this.
 
2013-11-11 05:33:02 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Show me the statistics for the number of children killed in car accidents 12 and under...and we'll talk.  Until then, take your "won't someone do SOMETHING to make the children safer??!?!?!?!" rant and shove it.

 (a quick Google search only shows that DRIVER age is tracked, not passenger)


From my anecdotal study of the local newspaper.  The majority of traffic fatalities are when the child or passenger isn't restrained at all.
 
2013-11-11 05:34:01 PM

Teresaol31: My 11 year old is 5 feet even and 105 lbs...built like a brick I might add...


Three holes?
 
2013-11-11 05:34:08 PM

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: this is the only way to be safe. But your clothes wrinkle and you get sweaty.

People would rather die than drive in this.

I think if this interior was available, I would go for it
[static.ddmcdn.com image 400x300]


Don't forget the HANS device.
 
2013-11-11 05:35:58 PM
I was suprised years ago when my niece at the time I think she was 6 or 7 was in a booster. I was puzled and asked my brother and his wife what was up with it. They told me it was teh law in the state that she had to be weigh X before they could ditch the booster. They thought it was silly too.
 
2013-11-11 05:37:28 PM

Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?


Oh about Nov 5 2000.  it's been reenforced every 4 years since then.
 
2013-11-11 05:38:02 PM
My girl is a bit over 4 feet tall. She's 6 years old. I don't want to pay for a sunroof.
 
2013-11-11 05:38:25 PM
I was born in 1984, and I have no memory of using a booster seat or car seat. Why?

Because back then those things were for babies.

Now the law is that all children 8 in under need to be in a booster seat. Ridiculous.
 
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2013-11-11 05:38:54 PM

rebelyell2006: I don't recall ever sitting in a booster seat. Perhaps the laws in Wisconsin back then were much looser than today's laws. Is this booster seat thing a recent phenomenon?


I was in a regular car seat at 3, in WI in the 80s.

I was also almost 6' by the time I was 12, as big as my dad and bigger than my mom.

I'm sure the government knows best though, and will eventually mandate something without exception to logic.
 
2013-11-11 05:38:54 PM
Then there is the awful anecdotal evidence that people like my father in law(now 83 yrs old)rely on. He was 54 when he was t-boned by a another car that ran a red light, broke his neck and he spent weeks in traction. The EMT at the scene told him that if he had been wearing his seat belt, which he never did before that point, he would have died, and no one has been able to convince him to wear a seat belt to this day. One in a billion(made up odds)accident where, according to an EMT, and this guy gets confirmation that he never needs to wear a seat belt ever.
 
2013-11-11 05:38:58 PM
This is just a marketing deal with HBO and GRRM, right?

"Game of Thrones Tyrion Booster Seat"
 
2013-11-11 05:39:59 PM

nightwriter: Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?

Oh about Nov 5 2000 Sept 11, 2001.  it's been reenforced every 4 years since then.


FTFY
 
2013-11-11 05:40:58 PM

ottosmom: My son is 11 and I tried to get him to ditch the booster last year when I got my new car, but he said it felt weird to be without it. I don't feel so bad now. He doesn't take it with him if he goes in someone else's car, but he seems to be comfortable with it in my car. He is on the small side, though, 4'3" and about 65 pounds. I showed this to him and he said, "See, I told you!"


When you get him on solid food and stop breast feeding him, he'll grow pretty fast.

(I keed)

/Didn't have any of that crap when I was a kid
//Free-Range in the station wagon
 
2013-11-11 05:41:35 PM

Pfighting Polish: I was my current height of 5'6" at age 11.  I am now 31.  If I needed a booster seat then, I still need one now.

Sorry, but this is silly.  How about, instead of an age, make the restriction on height?  Seems smarter to me.


But that would require MATH!
 
2013-11-11 05:43:02 PM
You'll need a hydraulic press to get the 12-year old into the child safety seat; at that point his/her back will be broken, so what's the point of using a child safety seat?  Problem solved.
 
2013-11-11 05:43:31 PM
I have a 30 year old filipina sister in law who is basically 4-9 and eighty pounds.  She is staying with us right now.  Should I make her ride in the back seat in a booster seat?  Her sister is 5-1, and about a hundred and ten, so I think we are safe there.
 
2013-11-11 05:44:05 PM

rebelyell2006: I don't recall ever sitting in a booster seat. Perhaps the laws in Wisconsin back then were much looser than today's laws. Is this booster seat thing a recent phenomenon?


I was driving in my father's vintage Mustang at 6 years old, and it didn't even have seatbelts. Then again seatbelt law enforcement was practically non-existant back then. They'd only ticket you for not wearing a seatbelt if you were stopped for another traffic violation. Seatbelts alone weren't enough to warrant a citation.
 
2013-11-11 05:44:54 PM
Booster seat?

Oh, you mean my mom's arms while she sat unbuckled in the passenger seat.

/get off my lawn
//and take your little wuss kids with you
 
2013-11-11 05:45:09 PM
here in Maine at lest it is 8 years old or over 100 lbs or like 4 1/2 feet tall to be out of the booster seat lol
 
2013-11-11 05:48:25 PM

Betep: ottosmom: My son is 11 and I tried to get him to ditch the booster last year when I got my new car, but he said it felt weird to be without it. I don't feel so bad now. He doesn't take it with him if he goes in someone else's car, but he seems to be comfortable with it in my car. He is on the small side, though, 4'3" and about 65 pounds. I showed this to him and he said, "See, I told you!"

When you get him on solid food and stop breast feeding him, he'll grow pretty fast.

(I keed)

/Didn't have any of that crap when I was a kid
//Free-Range in the station wagon


Yeah, I don't even think we had infant seats back then. I not only rode in the back of the station wagon with my feet on the windows, but also used to ride in the back of my dad's pickup truck on the highway. I seem to have survived. I figure if he feels comfortable in it, it can't hurt, but it is getting to the point where I seem to be more embarrassed that he is in it than he is. I'll make sure he's out of it by the time he gets his first pube ;)
 
2013-11-11 05:49:16 PM

Krusty's Wench: When did common sense fly out the window in this country?


Back when I was a little tyke, I would ride in the front seat of Daddy's '47 Pontiac. There were no seatbelts, the upholstery was covered in asbestos and there were large spikes sticking out of the dashboard at eye level. I turned out just fine.
 
2013-11-11 05:50:18 PM
I was born in '85 and I don't recall ever having a booster seat. I do remember being crammed into the back jump seats of a Ford Ranger, though. I couldn't have been more than 5 or so but I was a pretty big kid.

My brother was born in 1990. My whole family, aside from myself and my mom's dad, are all short. My brother adds being stick thin to that. I seem to recall back when he was younger the rule of thumb was that if you were under 60 lbs. you shouldn't be sitting in a seat with an airbag. I remember him being rather excited when he crossed that 60 lb. barrier and was able to ride in the front seat of the minivan.
 
2013-11-11 05:50:46 PM
Car crashes are a leading cause of death for children ages one year old to 13.

Make it illegal to ride in a car until you're old enough to drive. Problem solved.
 
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