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2013-11-11 02:20:30 PM
I see this guy took lessons from the Herbert estate.
 
2013-11-11 02:26:37 PM
If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?
 
2013-11-11 02:27:40 PM
I was expecting an article about priests working with special needs kids....
 
2013-11-11 02:29:41 PM
I liked the show better when it was called quantum leap.
 
2013-11-11 02:31:20 PM

BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?


In the US this would be true -- I don't know about the UK
 
2013-11-11 02:35:52 PM

Por que tan serioso: I liked the show better when it was called quantum leap.


I assume troll, but Dr. Who came first and the 2 shows are really not very similar other than "time." Dr. Who is probably more like ST:TNG with a smaller cast.
 
2013-11-11 02:42:39 PM
1. Fix the chameleon circuit
2. Park next to a classic red phone box
3. Break the chamelon circuit
4. $$ Keep profit $$
 
2013-11-11 02:47:01 PM

fustanella: 1. Fix the chameleon circuit
2. Park next to a classic red phone box
3. Break the chamelon circuit
4. $$ Keep profit $$


Then they'll be sued by the creator of Inspector Spacetime.

www.geeksofdoom.com
 
2013-11-11 02:48:31 PM

BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?


In the UK, the actual creator of a commisioned (work for hire) work is usually considered the primary copyright holder

source.
 
2013-11-11 02:53:14 PM
other than terry nation, most doctor who people didn't get crap for their creations, don't get your hopes up kid
 
2013-11-11 03:10:03 PM

This Looks Fun: Por que tan serioso: I liked the show better when it was called quantum leap.

I assume troll, but Dr. Who came first and the 2 shows are really not very similar other than "time." Dr. Who is probably more like ST:TNG with a smaller cast.


You know that somewhere, somehow, a young person said aloud that they would like Dr. Who more if they hadn't stolen their time machine from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.
 
2013-11-11 03:14:37 PM
If this screed is real, then that dude is in serious need of meds:

The upshot of all this is that I have lived my life to a significant degree, in Tony's long shadow. The psychological damage he did to me has crippled and restricted me in ways I am only now beginning to deal with. For many reasons, both positive and negative, I wish he had lived on. For one thing, I have had to contend with the fact that the World in general thought him a fine fellow, which fact has continued to alienate me from pretty well all social institutions in general and so-called 'authorities' in particular. Because of Tony's profound parental incompetence, I quickly became a deeply angry young man and, far from mellowing, have become a much angrier man as I have gotten older. For one thing, if I could push a button and blow Vatican city and every catholic edifice and institution Worldwide to kingdom come, (along with churches, mosques, temples and synagogues everywhere) I would do so joyfully and without the slightest hesitation. In like manner, though for less seriously considered reasons, I profoundly dislike and intensely resent the institution that bloody awful cheesy 'Doctor Who' has become. Its continued existence at all, let alone its modern resurgence, fills me with gall. I refuse to watch it and try, as far as is possible these days, not to even think about it. If I could push a button and do what all the silly 'daleks' and even sillier 'cybermen' and stupid bloody 'sontarans' and the like continue (I'm told) without success to attempt to do and, once and for all kill off the bloody annoying 'Doctor' so as to have him disappear entirely from TV screens and schedules everywhere, I would similarly do so cheerfully and without an instant's hesitation save that necessary to briefly savour the moment.

I'm wondering if it is the case of some attorney taking advantage of a mentally unstable guy to try to make some extra cash, so he's pushing this case even though it doesn't have much legal merit.
 
2013-11-11 03:22:50 PM
FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.
 
2013-11-11 03:44:52 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.


Truth hurts, eh?
 
2013-11-11 03:50:34 PM
What's Brit for "Sod off, you money-grubbing little prat."

// And where does the question mark go in all that?
 
2013-11-11 03:50:55 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.

Truth hurts, eh?


Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.
 
2013-11-11 03:59:25 PM

FrancoFile: FirstNationalBastard: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.

Truth hurts, eh?

Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.




"Of course Doctor Who is a children's show." - Steven Moffat

And did you ever see Rocko's Modern Life or Ren and Stimpy?
 
2013-11-11 04:00:35 PM

FrancoFile: Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.


Doctor Who was originally intended as a children's teaching program.  The lesbian sex between servant girls and lizards came later.
 
2013-11-11 04:09:56 PM
The linked document states the opposite of that which he claims. If that is his proof then the emperor has no clothes, or rather they are visible as an absence of visibility, a shape of nothingness. Like this guys case.
 
2013-11-11 04:10:30 PM

Larva Lump: What's Brit for "Sod off, you money-grubbing little prat.,"?

// And where does the question mark go in all that?


FTFY
/(no period) comma " ?
 
2013-11-11 04:10:46 PM

gingerjet: FrancoFile: Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.

Doctor Who was originally intended as a children's teaching program.  The lesbian sex between servant girls and lizards came later.


Which came first?
 
2013-11-11 04:28:17 PM

gingerjet: FrancoFile: Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.

Doctor Who was originally intended as a children's teaching program.  The lesbian sex between servant girls and lizards came later.


Where else are children going to learn about interspecies lesbian sex?
 
2013-11-11 04:31:15 PM

dready zim: gingerjet: FrancoFile: Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.

Doctor Who was originally intended as a children's teaching program.  The lesbian sex between servant girls and lizards came later.

Which came first?


Jenny.

/have you seen Madame Vastra's tongue?
 
2013-11-11 04:53:12 PM
In the immortal words of Monty Python: 'My Brain Hurts!'
 
2013-11-11 05:45:06 PM

BizarreMan: gingerjet: FrancoFile: Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.

Doctor Who was originally intended as a children's teaching program.  The lesbian sex between servant girls and lizards came later.

Where else are children going to learn about interspecies lesbian sex?


I admit... I just considered looking for some fan fiction on this subject. I didn't get past the google search when even the first result said "fic". Yeah... I couldn't Backspace fast enough.
 
2013-11-11 05:48:41 PM

BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?


Generally speaking, yes.  But there's a weird thing that runs counter to that with Doctor Who: the Daleks were created by Terry Nation, and he retained the rights to them, so his family now have control over the use of the Daleks on the show, and they've demanded at least one Dalek episode per series if the BBC wants to keep using them.

I assume this guy has seen the sort of money that they make and wants his cut.  But there's yet another wrinkle, as the blue police box was designed by Gilbert MacKenzie Trench for the Met in 1929, so there's some chance the box itself might fall under Crown Copyright.
 
2013-11-11 05:56:23 PM

PirateKing: fustanella: 1. Fix the chameleon circuit
2. Park next to a classic red phone box
3. Break the chamelon circuit
4. $$ Keep profit $$

Then they'll be sued by the creator of Inspector Spacetime.


Ack, forgot about that. How about a classic American phone bo... no, that's taken too. Shower stall? Voting booth? Portaloo!
 
2013-11-11 06:28:44 PM

Snapper Carr: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

In the UK, the actual creator of a commisioned (work for hire) work is usually considered the primary copyright holder

source.


Yeah this is the case in North America too.
 
2013-11-11 06:43:05 PM

Dwight_Yeast: and they've demanded at least one Dalek episode per series if the BBC wants to keep using them.


I tend to believe that this is a myth. I've never seen official confirmation, and series 6 from 2011 had no Daleks at all.
 
2013-11-11 07:09:20 PM

Klopfer: Dwight_Yeast: and they've demanded at least one Dalek episode per series if the BBC wants to keep using them.

I tend to believe that this is a myth. I've never seen official confirmation, and series 6 from 2011 had no Daleks at all.


The Wedding of River Song featured a dying one being interrogated by the Doctor at the beginning of the episode, but I'm not sure if that counts since it was just a quick guest appearance.
 
2013-11-11 07:37:26 PM

Shazam999: Snapper Carr: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

In the UK, the actual creator of a commisioned (work for hire) work is usually considered the primary copyright holder

source.

Yeah this is the case in North America too.


No, The WGA agreement with studios for film and TV means the studio acquires the copyright of the work for hire. Even if the writer originally wrote it on spec before signing any contract with anyone. In the UK the writer keeps the royalty but assigns a licence to the studio.
 
2013-11-11 07:40:25 PM

Dwight_Yeast: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

Generally speaking, yes.  But there's a weird thing that runs counter to that with Doctor Who: the Daleks were created by Terry Nation, and he retained the rights to them, so his family now have control over the use of the Daleks on the show, and they've demanded at least one Dalek episode per series if the BBC wants to keep using them.

I assume this guy has seen the sort of money that they make and wants his cut.  But there's yet another wrinkle, as the blue police box was designed by Gilbert MacKenzie Trench for the Met in 1929, so there's some chance the box itself might fall under Crown Copyright.


That's a very valid point. The police box already existed. All this writer did, if indeed he did, was suggest using it. The copyright of the police box was owned by the police force. They sold it to the BBC some twenty odd years ago.

Can the guy who suggested the James Bond films use an Aston Martin claim ownership of Aston Martins? Or a fee every time they are used on screen?
 
2013-11-11 07:41:23 PM

Flint Ironstag: Shazam999: Snapper Carr: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

In the UK, the actual creator of a commisioned (work for hire) work is usually considered the primary copyright holder

source.

Yeah this is the case in North America too.

No, The WGA agreement with studios for film and TV means the studio acquires the copyright of the work for hire. Even if the writer originally wrote it on spec before signing any contract with anyone. In the UK the writer keeps the royalty but assigns a licence to the studio.


Do'h! Keeps the copyright....
 
2013-11-11 08:57:02 PM
You mean that he did not notice for decades and decades that the TARDIS was his creation and that it was making the BBC a lot of money?  Somewhere along the line, if you don't show up you should lose your right to sue decades later.

What is more, all the people the man who allegedly was stolen from and the people who allegedly did the stealing are long dead.
 
2013-11-12 12:14:18 AM

Flint Ironstag: Shazam999: Snapper Carr: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

In the UK, the actual creator of a commisioned (work for hire) work is usually considered the primary copyright holder

source.

Yeah this is the case in North America too.

No, The WGA agreement with studios for film and TV means the studio acquires the copyright of the work for hire. Even if the writer originally wrote it on spec before signing any contract with anyone. In the UK the writer keeps the royalty but assigns a licence to the studio.


Yeah I'm just talking generally.  Of course many agreements change this.
 
2013-11-12 01:28:42 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.


Eh... Star Wars says it's a kid-friendly franchise. I think you're working too hard if you think that because it is kid-friendly that "kid's program" is offensive.
 
2013-11-12 04:22:42 AM
www.geeksofdoom.com
 
2013-11-12 08:06:53 AM

fustanella: PirateKing: fustanella: 1. Fix the chameleon circuit
2. Park next to a classic red phone box
3. Break the chamelon circuit
4. $$ Keep profit $$

Then they'll be sued by the creator of Inspector Spacetime.

Ack, forgot about that. How about a classic American phone bo... no, that's taken too. Shower stall? Voting booth? Portaloo!


The portaloo has been taken: (textual description of NSFW movie).
 
2013-11-12 12:25:34 PM

FrancoFile: FirstNationalBastard: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "It is by no means my wish to deprive legions of Doctor Who fans (of whom I was never one) of any aspect of their favorite children's program. [emphasis added]"

Go fark yourself.

Truth hurts, eh?

Because a lesbian relationship between a lizardwoman and a 19th century Cockney servant girl is totally what you'd see on Nickelodeon or afternoon PBS programming.


Yeah, because Brits are less puritanical and their TV tends to assume their audiences have an intellect that doesn't require spoon feeding, Doctor Who couldn't possibly be a children's show. Newsflash, it is one. And there's nothing wrong with it being acknowledged as such.

It just happens to be one with layers. The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is children's literature too - until you read it as an adult, or young adult and catch the true thematic undertones.

Maybe you're confused by what passes as children's fare in the US.
 
2013-11-12 12:27:48 PM

Dwight_Yeast: BAMFinator: If he was employed to create it, doesn't that make it the property of the person who paid him?  Or in this case, the BBC?

Generally speaking, yes.  But there's a weird thing that runs counter to that with Doctor Who: the Daleks were created by Terry Nation, and he retained the rights to them, so his family now have control over the use of the Daleks on the show, and they've demanded at least one Dalek episode per series if the BBC wants to keep using them.

I assume this guy has seen the sort of money that they make and wants his cut.  But there's yet another wrinkle, as the blue police box was designed by Gilbert MacKenzie Trench for the Met in 1929, so there's some chance the box itself might fall under Crown Copyright.


Actually, the BBC holds the copyright on the blue box police box.
 
2013-11-12 12:29:29 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: You mean that he did not notice for decades and decades that the TARDIS was his creation and that it was making the BBC a lot of money?  Somewhere along the line, if you don't show up you should lose your right to sue decades later.

What is more, all the people the man who allegedly was stolen from and the people who allegedly did the stealing are long dead.


The creator died in the 70s, the guy suing just inherited the rights.
 
2013-11-13 03:19:46 AM

Mad_Radhu: The upshot of all this is that I have lived my life to a significant degree, in Tony's long shadow.


'Tony Longshadow" has a nice ring to it.
 
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