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2013-11-11 02:40:53 PM
I always hate how these articles act like people like Ben Tate aren't taken in every single league that people pay attention to.
 
2013-11-11 02:47:45 PM

flak attack: I always hate how these articles act like people like Ben Tate aren't taken in every single league that people pay attention to.


Yeah I think most on their RB list is on a team in my league and most have been for several weeks
 
2013-11-11 02:51:12 PM
Wow calling people idiots for not stashing Andre brown for ten weeks for this one game. What an asshole.
 
2013-11-11 02:57:45 PM
Your blog sucks
 
2013-11-11 02:59:08 PM
I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess
 
2013-11-11 03:08:52 PM

flak attack: I always hate how these articles act like people like Ben Tate aren't taken in every single league that people pay attention to.


Especially given the state of the RB position these days. Ben Tate? I'd trade Larry Fitzgerald for Ben Tate right now, straight up. Even in 10 team leagues right now, if you lost Foster you're probably going fishing for guys like Jacquizz Rodgers or McGahee.
 
2013-11-11 03:18:34 PM

jayhawk88: you're probably going fishing for guys like Jacquizz Rodgers


That ship sailed 2 weeks ago. The Falcons have made it clear they're going to run SJax into the ground in spite of the fact that Jacquizz appears to be the better of the two in their scheme. I had him for a few weeks and he was lighting up the scoreboard every week and then the second Jackson comes back he's back to 3 carries. A damn shame.
 
2013-11-11 03:27:03 PM

Treygreen13: jayhawk88: you're probably going fishing for guys like Jacquizz Rodgers

That ship sailed 2 weeks ago. The Falcons have made it clear they're going to run SJax into the ground in spite of the fact that Jacquizz appears to be the better of the two in their scheme. I had him for a few weeks and he was lighting up the scoreboard every week and then the second Jackson comes back he's back to 3 carries. A damn shame.


On the other hand, the falcons are losing. (Makes shifting scales gesture)
 
2013-11-11 03:33:12 PM

jayhawk88: I'd trade Larry Fitzgerald for Ben Tate right now, straight up


That actually sounds like a no-brainer -- a guy who's about to become a feature back for a receiver who isn't even on pace for a thousand yards. If you were drafting teams from scratch today in a (non-keeper) 10-team league, I'd expect Tate to be a late second/early third-round pick and Fitzgerald to go, what, in the fifteenth or so? Maybe a little higher for Fitz because of his track record, but certainly not enough to elevate him into that highest tier of WRs who can be drafted in the same region as average starting RBs.
 
2013-11-11 03:41:00 PM

thecpt: Treygreen13: jayhawk88: you're probably going fishing for guys like Jacquizz Rodgers

That ship sailed 2 weeks ago. The Falcons have made it clear they're going to run SJax into the ground in spite of the fact that Jacquizz appears to be the better of the two in their scheme. I had him for a few weeks and he was lighting up the scoreboard every week and then the second Jackson comes back he's back to 3 carries. A damn shame.

On the other hand, the falcons are losing. (Makes shifting scales gesture)


Not that that will make a difference. Mike Smith is positive his 2-7 team has the right formula.
 
2013-11-11 03:43:33 PM
Look, I feel bad enough for drafting Dwayne Bowe, alright? Leave me alone!
 
2013-11-11 03:53:45 PM

zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess


You might be a moron for drafting him (but aren't), but I'd say you're pretty damn smart for dropping him.  Too many other players who actually put up points available to waste a roster spot on the guy.  Maybe he turns a corner now, but like the guy said, if he's only in on 15 out of 60 plays it's hard to see him being a valuable contributor next week.  I'm hoping everyone else in my league targets the guy so I actually have a chance to get the player I want...
 
2013-11-11 03:55:24 PM

rjakobi: Look, I feel bad enough for drafting Dwayne Bowe, alright? Leave me alone!


Yeah, but you didn't give up a first round pick to keep Ray Rice, right?  It could be so much worse for you...
 
2013-11-11 04:12:06 PM

zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess



I dropped him a few weeks ago myself, I couldn't even say for who. I'm not that worried. I seem to have good luck with wideouts... Except I had Riley Cooper on my bench in a league that I'm going to lose.
 
2013-11-11 04:16:56 PM

SilentStrider: zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess


I dropped him a few weeks ago myself, I couldn't even say for who. I'm not that worried. I seem to have good luck with wideouts... Except I had Riley Cooper on my bench in a league that I'm going to lose.


Basically, Austin was the beneficiary of really terrible man coverage by Vontae Davis twice in one game. (Say what you want about the 81-yarder being a pick play; Davis took a terrible pursuit angle after getting past the pick.) So I wouldn't expect a repeat performance anytime soon.
 
2013-11-11 04:32:36 PM

kaylward: zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess

You might be a moron for drafting him (but aren't), but I'd say you're pretty damn smart for dropping him.  Too many other players who actually put up points available to waste a roster spot on the guy.  Maybe he turns a corner now, but like the guy said, if he's only in on 15 out of 60 plays it's hard to see him being a valuable contributor next week.  I'm hoping everyone else in my league targets the guy so I actually have a chance to get the player I want...


I tend to be too impatient in the people I drafted. By midseason I had sent Andre Johnson, Colston, and Ridley packing via trades or outright drops. Their replacements have and have not worked out.
 
2013-11-11 04:33:52 PM

zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess


No, that's not bad. I think it's always wise to draft a rookie like him. In the past, for me, it's been a successful tactic netting the likes of aj green and cam newton (highly touted players who lasted until the 10th in a ten team). Always worth a shot.
 
2013-11-11 04:40:09 PM

Super Chronic: jayhawk88: I'd trade Larry Fitzgerald for Ben Tate right now, straight up

That actually sounds like a no-brainer -- a guy who's about to become a feature back for a receiver who isn't even on pace for a thousand yards. If you were drafting teams from scratch today in a (non-keeper) 10-team league, I'd expect Tate to be a late second/early third-round pick and Fitzgerald to go, what, in the fifteenth or so? Maybe a little higher for Fitz because of his track record, but certainly not enough to elevate him into that highest tier of WRs who can be drafted in the same region as average starting RBs.


Every Ben Tate owner also needs to own Dennis Johnson.

Four cracked ribs? That's trouble no matter who you are.
 
2013-11-11 04:45:28 PM
My genius pickups this year

Dwayne Bowe
Justin "420 Blaze It" Blackmon
TY Hilton (he was shiat before Wayne went down)
Roddy "Uncle Bernie" White
Trent Richardson. But I traded him for Cobb... Just before he broke his leg
Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.
 
2013-11-11 04:48:50 PM

Frank N Stein: My genius pickups this year

Dwayne Bowe
Justin "420 Blaze It" Blackmon
TY Hilton (he was shiat before Wayne went down)
Roddy "Uncle Bernie" White
Trent Richardson. But I traded him for Cobb... Just before he broke his leg
Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.


Oh yeah: Arian Foster & his broken back.
 
2013-11-11 05:17:49 PM
I ended up with Tavon Austin sort of by accident; I drafted Anquan Boldin, and when he got covered to hell after the first week, I finally traded him around week six or seven for Austin. It was more a desperation play between the two of us, as we were both in the bottom four of the league, and I figured at this point, Boldin was only going to produce if he wasn't producing for me.

Sunday morning, I debated about playing TE Brandon Pettigrew or Austin in a flex role, and I decided to just leave Austin in there, because what the hell? I'm pretty sure I got more points off Austin in that one game than I scored off Boldin as long as I had him on the roster. Will I play him again? Time will tell, but at least I got 25-26 points this week.

It's sort of like air guitar; if there were skill involved, we'd be managing real football teams instead of playing FF. And even then, there are no sure shots. This week's 30-point stud can get double-covered the following week and be that week's dud. You can play the matchups to perfection and still lose. It's fun, but frustrating as hell.
 
2013-11-11 05:54:24 PM

Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.


This time it's for real. Wait until next week.
 
2013-11-11 06:05:52 PM

Super Chronic: Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.

This time it's for real. Wait until next week.


Site is blocked at my office, but his activation was reqired today or he had to miss the entire season. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll play Sunday. In fact, they're probably better off sitting him and getting him another 2 weeks to get back in shape before the Saints come to town.
 
2013-11-11 06:22:42 PM

Shame Us: Super Chronic: Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.

This time it's for real. Wait until next week.

Site is blocked at my office, but his activation was reqired today or he had to miss the entire season. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll play Sunday. In fact, they're probably better off sitting him and getting him another 2 weeks to get back in shape before the Saints come to town.


Maybe. I'd kinda like to have him against the Vikings (and I'm sure he'd love to play against them). It'd be like getting him some preseason work. Doesn't have to play much, maybe a quarter or so.
 
2013-11-11 06:24:27 PM
Consider snagging Peyton Manning if he's available
 
2013-11-11 06:26:34 PM
Last week I picked up Keenum before having second thoughts and swapping him for Eli. Today I remedied that mistake

/Next week, Keenum will get 0 points
 
2013-11-11 06:27:25 PM

IAmRight: Shame Us: Super Chronic: Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.

This time it's for real. Wait until next week.

Site is blocked at my office, but his activation was reqired today or he had to miss the entire season. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll play Sunday. In fact, they're probably better off sitting him and getting him another 2 weeks to get back in shape before the Saints come to town.

Maybe. I'd kinda like to have him against the Vikings (and I'm sure he'd love to play against them). It'd be like getting him some preseason work. Doesn't have to play much, maybe a quarter or so.


I'd love to see him on the field, and I'm sure he feels ready to go, but Carroll and Schneider are notoriously cautious with injuries. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he was actually able to play at Atlanta and they sat him anyway.
 
2013-11-11 06:35:27 PM

Shame Us: Super Chronic: Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.

This time it's for real. Wait until next week.

Site is blocked at my office, but his activation was reqired today or he had to miss the entire season. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll play Sunday. In fact, they're probably better off sitting him and getting him another 2 weeks to get back in shape before the Saints come to town.


Field Gulls reports "Per a source of Adam Shefter's, it would be considered an 'upset' if Harvin were unable to go Sunday against his former team, the Vikings." Granted, that's kinda flimsy sourcing. And of course it doesn't mean he won't be limited.
 
2013-11-11 06:41:19 PM

Shame Us: I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he was actually able to play at Atlanta and they sat him anyway.


I just assumed he's been able to go for a couple weeks. Hell, I didn't put many confidence points on us beating Atlanta just because it seemed like Carroll wasn't particularly worried about it, letting lots of dudes sit who could've possibly gone.

I think he does let Harvin in against the Vikings just so he can get some revenge against his former team that went out of their way to badmouth him as much as possible on his way out the door. Plus it'd be some cool symmetry with his last game of last year being as a member of the Vikings in Seattle against the Seahawks and his first of this year being as a member of the Seahawks in Seattle against the Vikings.

/still not putting him in my FFB lineup until after the bye
 
2013-11-11 07:03:16 PM

Super Chronic: Shame Us: Super Chronic: Frank N Stein: Percy "Wait until next week" Harvin.

This time it's for real. Wait until next week.

Site is blocked at my office, but his activation was reqired today or he had to miss the entire season. It doesn't necessarily mean he'll play Sunday. In fact, they're probably better off sitting him and getting him another 2 weeks to get back in shape before the Saints come to town.

Field Gulls reports "Per a source of Adam Shefter's, it would be considered an 'upset' if Harvin were unable to go Sunday against his former team, the Vikings." Granted, that's kinda flimsy sourcing. And of course it doesn't mean he won't be limited.


I just went and read the article. Certainly sounds like if he practices without a problem, he'll at least be suited up and ready to play, probably getting a few snaps in. Maybe if we find ourselves with a 3rd and goal from the 7 or something so he can really stick it to MIN.
 
2013-11-11 07:07:47 PM

IAmRight: Shame Us: I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he was actually able to play at Atlanta and they sat him anyway.

I just assumed he's been able to go for a couple weeks. Hell, I didn't put many confidence points on us beating Atlanta just because it seemed like Carroll wasn't particularly worried about it, letting lots of dudes sit who could've possibly gone.

I think he does let Harvin in against the Vikings just so he can get some revenge against his former team that went out of their way to badmouth him as much as possible on his way out the door. Plus it'd be some cool symmetry with his last game of last year being as a member of the Vikings in Seattle against the Seahawks and his first of this year being as a member of the Seahawks in Seattle against the Vikings.

/still not putting him in my FFB lineup until after the bye


I think it's possible they've been limiting him a little in practice just so they can give that excuse if asked why he's not being activated.

"Coach, Harvin was eligible to return at STL and TB and he's still not activated for ATL. Can you explain the process when it comes to getting a player of his obvious impact back on the field and why he's been held back?"

"Oh, Percy looks really good, but he's not quite ready for full practice, so we'll wait it out and make sure he's really really exceedingly ridiculously ready before we even think about letting him in the stadium on Sunday. As soon as he's able to give us a week of good practice, he'll be out there. I think it'll be really cool too."
 
2013-11-12 12:05:09 AM
If Harvin plays I am guessing that it's 15 snaps or less.  Week 12 is their bye.  They probably will want to get his feet wet before actually playing him in a starting role in week 13.  I'll probably still pick him up as a high upside guy for the playoffs.  I'd gladly make the swap for an 20 plus point possibility versus the a receiver like Steve Smith who just can't get anything going anymore - no matter how well his team is doing.
 
2013-11-12 02:48:32 AM

zerkalo: I am the king of morons for drafting Tavon in the first place and then dropping him two weeks ago, I guess


Don't feel bad. I did the same, and dropped him about 3 weeks ago. Considering he's had about 7 straight awful weeks before blowing up on Sunday, I consider this to be a fluke performance. He'll be back to 2 receptions for 15 yards a game soon enough.
 
2013-11-12 08:03:17 AM
Read the headline as Trayvon Martin

Still a better pickup than half my FF team

/Weeps
 
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