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(CBS Baltimore)   Republican wins mayoral race in Annapolis, MD. City council Democrats decide to C) vote to strip him of all power   (baltimore.cbslocal.com) divider line 112
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2013-11-11 02:03:31 PM  
www.themarysue.com


Still thinking about it.
 
2013-11-11 02:28:44 PM  
Democrats, stop giving the Republicans ideas/borrowing from them.
 
2013-11-11 02:52:59 PM  
Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.
 
2013-11-11 02:58:21 PM  
Well, at least they're naming a sandwich after him at Chick N' Ruth's Delly, so that ain't all bad.
 
2013-11-11 02:58:41 PM  
heads i win tails you lose
 
2013-11-11 02:58:41 PM  
Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.
 
2013-11-11 03:00:12 PM  

Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.


But doing so just to throw a temper tantrum because your guy lost is a thing.
 
2013-11-11 03:00:52 PM  
Mayor is just the 1st councilor of a city.  Many, MANY cities are managed this way, and generally it's a good thing.  The only reason Rob Ford is merely an embarrassment, and not a complete disaster, is the fact that he's simply one vote in Toronto city council.
 
2013-11-11 03:02:50 PM  
Not so unusual. shiatty, but not unusual.
 
2013-11-11 03:03:45 PM  

DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.


""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.
 
2013-11-11 03:05:20 PM  

nmrsnr: Democrats  Both parties should be better than that.


FTFY
 
2013-11-11 03:06:14 PM  

DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.


This.
 
2013-11-11 03:06:16 PM  
Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.
 
2013-11-11 03:09:42 PM  

RedPhoenix122: nmrsnr: Democrats  Both parties should be better than that.

FTFY


That only applies if the GOP does something bad.
 
2013-11-11 03:10:42 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.


Bull.  Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you.  It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.
 
2013-11-11 03:11:14 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.


But, see, it's for the good of all of us when we do.

/except the ones who are dead
 
2013-11-11 03:12:11 PM  
I can see no way this would backfire in the future.
 
2013-11-11 03:12:33 PM  

RedPhoenix122: nmrsnr: Democrats  Both parties should be better than that.

FTFY


Well, yes, but I only have hopes for one party at this point, since the Republican party platform since 2010 has been to disenfranchise as many people possible.
 
2013-11-11 03:13:48 PM  

Warlordtrooper: UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

Bull.  Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you.  It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.


Fire with fire. I can dig it.
 
2013-11-11 03:14:56 PM  

Warlordtrooper: UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

Bull.  Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you.  It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.


There's a side of me that agrees with U.S. and Democrats shouldn't stoop the the GOP's level.  Then again, considering the GOP's policies resemble that of the English feudal era, stripping someone who's legit batshiat crazy isn't such a bad thing.
 
2013-11-11 03:15:08 PM  

nmrsnr: RedPhoenix122: nmrsnr: Democrats  Both parties should be better than that.

FTFY

Well, yes, but I only have hopes for one party at this point, since the Republican party platform since 2010 has been to disenfranchise as many people possible.


Yes, but they're both owned by corporate interests at this point.  I'd prefer a viable 3rd party, but that won't happen either.
 
2013-11-11 03:17:07 PM  

Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.


It is when the only reason you change it is because the "wrong" person won
 
2013-11-11 03:17:17 PM  

gingerjet: But doing so just to throw a temper tantrum because your guy lost is a thing.


OK, how about doing so as a carefully calculated move to minimize the impact of your guy losing?
 
2013-11-11 03:18:34 PM  
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2013-11-11 03:18:41 PM  

Fark It: Democrats, stop giving the Republicans ideas/borrowing from them.


nmrsnr: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.


UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.


All of these. It kind of makes it harder to fight stuff like Republican voter supression efforts, public union busting, and changing counting rules after the voting in order to win; if Democrats are pulling stuff like this. It legitemizes Republican shenanigans and delegitemizes complaints made about about them.
 
2013-11-11 03:18:48 PM  
I grew up there, and I'm shocked they didn't have a Republican government this whole time. Career military types, NSA employees, and rich white people with boats don't tend to lean port, er, left.
 
2013-11-11 03:19:32 PM  

Warlordtrooper: UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

Bull.  Sometimes you have to fight the enemy the same way they fight you.  It may not be right but republicans started this war, there is no reason not to do everything in our power to stop them.


No, you can't stoop down to their level, you need to fight it legitimately.  I'd be angry if they did this to a Democrat, therefore I'm angry they did this to a Republican.  This is the kind of partisanship that's corrupting political discourse in this country.
 
2013-11-11 03:21:07 PM  

gingerjet: Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.

But doing so just to throw a temper tantrum because your guy lost is a thing.


Joe Blowme: Notabunny: Meh. Some cities have a strong mayor system, and in other cities the mayor and city council members are equals. This isn't a thing.

It is when the only reason you change it is because the "wrong" person won


Sure, if that was the reason, but tfa doesn't say that. It hints at it by labeling the parties Democratic and Republican, but tfa never says that was the reason for switching away from a strong mayor system.
 
2013-11-11 03:21:56 PM  
Sigh. Tribalism is destroying this country.

This is why I stopped voting a few years ago, and don't plan to start again any time soon. It's a charade. Neither side is really doing anything. The powers-that-be are the ones making all the calls, and elections are just bread & circuses.
 
2013-11-11 03:25:09 PM  

DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.


By denying the voters their choice of Mayor?  Makes perfect sense.

/those who know whats best for us must rise and save us from ourselves.
 
2013-11-11 03:26:43 PM  
Hah.  This is happening in the Milwaukee County government even though it's a moderate Dem as the county executive and a bunch of super far left wingers on the county board.
 
2013-11-11 03:27:48 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.


Yup.  The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.
 
2013-11-11 03:28:34 PM  

nmrsnr: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.


When has a republican city council ever done this?
 
2013-11-11 03:30:01 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This. is how you post after huffing paint


FTFY
 
2013-11-11 03:30:32 PM  
both sides are bad!
 
2013-11-11 03:30:49 PM  

sugar_fetus: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

By denying the voters their choice of Mayor?  Makes perfect sense.

/those who know whats best for us must rise and save us from ourselves.


I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that people who know better than to vote Republican know what's best for the people who do.
 
2013-11-11 03:31:20 PM  

heavymetal: Fark It: Democrats, stop giving the Republicans ideas/borrowing from them.

nmrsnr: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

""Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster," it's BS when Republicans pull this kind of shiat just because they lost an election, Democrats should be better than that.

UncomfortableSilence: Changing the rules to benefit your party when someone you dislike gets voted in?  Come on guys, we're not supposed to be the side that pulls this crap.

All of these. It kind of makes it harder to fight stuff like Republican voter supression efforts, public union busting, and changing counting rules after the voting in order to win; if Democrats are pulling stuff like this. It legitemizes Republican shenanigans and delegitemizes complaints made about about them.


This. Doing this sort of thing makes the crazy right-wingers think their craziness is justified.

Also it's, you know, morally wrong. It shouldn't be done.
 
2013-11-11 03:33:58 PM  
Typical moronic Libtards.  They simply cannot accept that the overwhelming majority of Americans are crying out for true Conservative leadership.  The Liberal Attack Machine MUST be stopped and dismantled immediately, by force if necessary, before it can cause any more harm to our great Nation.
 
2013-11-11 03:35:33 PM  

The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup.  The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.


I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight
cdn.breitbart.com
www.breitbart.com ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.
www.breitbart.com

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him
 
2013-11-11 03:36:19 PM  

heavymetal: It legitemizes Republican shenanigans


Yeah, we must be careful not to legitimize Republican shenanigans, else they might pull some shenanigans
 
2013-11-11 03:37:26 PM  

The Name: sugar_fetus: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

By denying the voters their choice of Mayor?  Makes perfect sense.

/those who know whats best for us must rise and save us from ourselves.

I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that people who know better than to vote Republican know what's best for the people who do.


I do. Because not all Republicans are the same; because not all Democrats are the same.

Good to know you're up there telling us what's best for us.
 
2013-11-11 03:37:41 PM  
Am I the only one who noticed that the entire article only talks about one person on the council who is planning to introduce a bill to have it voted on? There is no other mention of other support or whether it is likely to pass.

While this will be an embarassment if it goes through, right now it doesn't appear to be anything more than one council person who is submitting legislation for it. I hope there is a followup when (if?) there is a vote on it.
 
2013-11-11 03:40:17 PM  
Municipal government should be the most functional form of government in this country.
 
2013-11-11 03:44:37 PM  

Joe Blowme: The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup.  The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight
[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356]
[www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.
[www.breitbart.com image 344x130]

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him


You do know you can be born out of country and still be a citizen of the US right?
 
2013-11-11 03:45:32 PM  

Joe Blowme: The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup.  The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight
[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356]
[www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.
[www.breitbart.com image 344x130]

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him


It's not that they questioned him. It's that they kept questioning him - over, and over, and over - after it had been proven beyond any form of reasonable doubt.
 
2013-11-11 03:48:24 PM  

MJMaloney187: When has a republican city council ever done this?


Specifically restrict mayoral power? I'm not aware of any specific incident identical to this (though I imagine it has happened), by "this kind of shiat" I meant moves that pervert the concept of democracy in the interest of preserving party power. Are we going to pretend that it hasn't been the Republican party MO since at least 2010 to marginalize potential democratic voters, and lower voter turnout in general, in order to preserve their political power over the actual popular opinion on how to govern?
 
2013-11-11 03:48:43 PM  
Is it just me, or is there a correlation between cities where council member are referred to as "aldermen" and cities where the Dems are the power-mad nut cases?
 
2013-11-11 03:52:37 PM  
He's a mayor in a heavily Democratic state. What's this guy going to do, propose legislation that immediately gets smacked down? Yeah..that's real threatening. The guy already has a tiny amount of influence anyway. This is just wasteful and petty.
 
2013-11-11 03:53:01 PM  

Joe Blowme: The Name: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: DemonEater: Normally this would be an outrage, but the way the Republicans have gone in the last 15 or so years, this sounds like an important step towards ensuring the safety of the citizens.

This.

Yup.  The voters will be thanking them once the mayor starts spouting off about death panels and birf certifcts.

I know right? Specially when it was just a 16 year oversight
[cdn.breitbart.com image 475x356]
[www.breitbart.com image 413x116] ooops again in 1998

double oops, 2007.
[www.breitbart.com image 344x130]

Dont know where they got the idea he to question him


I thought you birthers went extinct.
 
2013-11-11 03:54:03 PM  
Good.  The fact that the GOP and their wealthy overlords have been able to shiat on us as much as they have is proof that our current form of Democracy  isn't working.

I'd prefer to be led by an un-elected rational and sane person than a elected Republican.
 
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