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2013-11-11 11:48:28 AM
Same as the Old Left that never "left".

blog.usw.org
 
2013-11-11 11:49:15 AM
Be Concerned!
 
2013-11-11 11:55:53 AM
Socialism is coming back.

www.reactionface.info
 
2013-11-11 11:57:36 AM

WE GET IT THEIR BACK

 
2013-11-11 11:59:30 AM
You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.
 
2013-11-11 12:09:28 PM
Any time something happens that appeals to lefties, it's the harbinger of a new day. When it's the righties involved, it's a temporary blip. The Tea Party represents the New Right as much as de Blasio represents the New*2 Left, and when it first emerged I don't recall many articles heralding it as an interesting and potentially  transformative phenomenon. The general tone was, "Look at these noisome lice on the body politic. Give them one election cycle to get their heads bashed in and they'll lose interest and go back to marrying their sisters and drinking beer in their end-of-the-world bunkers." Sure got that wrong. We'll see if the New2 Left have as much comparable impact as the author seems to think they might.
 
2013-11-11 12:09:37 PM

lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.


We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.
 
2013-11-11 12:13:42 PM

UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.


Whatever happened to this shiat:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

Working class turned into such pussies and let the capitalist assholes run rough shot over them... Don't argue, that's class warfare...
 
2013-11-11 12:16:53 PM
Sorry, Elizabeth Warren doesn't cut it for me. Watching her speak, she just doesn't have *it*, whatever it may be.

Still lots of time to find a candidate before 2016 though.

Also, apart from any generational swings in political opinion, the U.S. constitution is structured to be inherently conservative - most obviously in the Senate. Years of gerrymandering have extended that problem into the House. If liberals want to take over the Center, they have to come up with a new message that speaks to the trailer-park youth, not the over-educated suburbanites and hipsters (my own crowd). We're still preaching to the choir.
 
2013-11-11 12:26:08 PM

UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.


Well they finally farked the chicken enough that the farm hand is disgusted by it. Welcome to a generation of people who actively loath the wealthy.
 
2013-11-11 12:28:01 PM
sounds new.
 
2013-11-11 12:28:31 PM

lockers: UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.

Well they finally farked the chicken enough that the farm hand is disgusted by it. Welcome to a generation of people who actively loath the wealthy.


That's fine by me, I hope we eat them all and divide the wealth up more evenly.

2% of the US population shouldn't control 70% of the entire wealth
 
2013-11-11 12:54:08 PM

KellyX: lockers: UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.

Well they finally farked the chicken enough that the farm hand is disgusted by it. Welcome to a generation of people who actively loath the wealthy.

That's fine by me, I hope we eat them all and divide the wealth up more evenly.

2% of the US population shouldn't control 70% of the entire wealth


Especially when that wealth is breaking up the country to sell off and then sell a bullshiat myth about working hard.  It's about freaking time.
 
2013-11-11 01:18:11 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: Especially when that wealth is breaking up the country to sell off and then sell a bullshiat myth about working hard. It's about freaking time.


I don't think millenials wouldn't lean nearly so far left if the preceding generations weren't so steadfast in declaring "You just need to work harder. My god, this generation is full of entitled snowflakes." far past the point where it would even apply to the situation.

I'm probably mangling the quote and don't know the source, but it was something like "Don't tell us to go to college so we don't have to flip burgers and then when we graduate tell us we have to flip burgers to pay for our college."

The turn left may be just as much out of spite.
 
2013-11-11 01:27:49 PM

KellyX: UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.

Whatever happened to this shiat:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x678]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x147]

Working class turned into such pussies and let the capitalist assholes run rough shot over them... Don't argue, that's class warfare...


To "ride roughshod" means to ride a horse with nails portruding from the horse's horseshoes.  This was done either by a bad blacksmith, or on purpose if the plan was to ride on difficult or slippery terrain.  A horse thus equipped would no doubt cause great pain and consternation to anyone the horse was ridden over.  Hence the expression.
 
2013-11-11 01:38:31 PM
Progressive liberal does well in NYC.  This clearly represents something Important for the whole country.
 
2013-11-11 01:39:17 PM

another cultural observer: KellyX: UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.

Whatever happened to this shiat:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x678]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x147]

Working class turned into such pussies and let the capitalist assholes run rough shot over them... Don't argue, that's class warfare...

To "ride roughshod" means to ride a horse with nails portruding from the horse's horseshoes.  This was done either by a bad blacksmith, or on purpose if the plan was to ride on difficult or slippery terrain.  A horse thus equipped would no doubt cause great pain and consternation to anyone the horse was ridden over.  Hence the expression.


To "run rough shot" over someone is an old phrase originating from British privateers in the 17th and 18th centuries. It refers specifically to the necessity of keeping cannon-shot near the cannons during combat (especially) in rough seas, and the sailors supplying ammo to the cannon crews would often run by or over injured sailors on the decks, as keeping a high rate of fire was absolutely essential to winning sea battles, hence the phrase.

/Not really
 
2013-11-11 01:43:14 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: KellyX: UNC_Samurai: lockers: You wanted class warfare assholes. You are going to get it.

We've HAD class warfare.  But people are only willing to identify it as such when the lower classes actually wise up and try to fight back.

Whatever happened to this shiat:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x678]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x147]

Working class turned into such pussies and let the capitalist assholes run rough shot over them... Don't argue, that's class warfare...

To "ride roughshod" means to ride a horse with nails portruding from the horse's horseshoes.  This was done either by a bad blacksmith, or on purpose if the plan was to ride on difficult or slippery terrain.  A horse thus equipped would no doubt cause great pain and consternation to anyone the horse was ridden over.  Hence the expression.

To "run rough shot" over someone is an old phrase originating from British privateers in the 17th and 18th centuries. It refers specifically to the necessity of keeping cannon-shot near the cannons during combat (especially) in rough seas, and the sailors supplying ammo to the cannon crews would often run by or over injured sailors on the decks, as keeping a high rate of fire was absolutely essential to winning sea battles, hence the phrase.

/Not really


I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"
 
2013-11-11 01:56:22 PM

another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"


Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.
 
2013-11-11 02:05:32 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.


The other being, "But I poop from there!"
 
2013-11-11 02:09:10 PM

lockers: UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.

The other being, "But I poop from there!"


"Et tu, bootay?"
 
2013-11-11 02:11:25 PM

lockers: UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.

The other being, "But I poop from there!"


Oh, delightful!  I'd forgotten the old Latin expression, "Ego autem non ab faex"
 
2013-11-11 02:53:22 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.


Patently false!

The expression dates to realtors of the mid to late 1980s who would grudgingly accept listings for hard-to-sell properties provided the seller agreed to update the kitchen.

Usage: "He offered to put in a second half-bath, but I told him I'd take it for granite"
 
2013-11-11 02:54:42 PM
TFA's author references Mannheim but not Strauss and Howe?
 
2013-11-11 02:56:05 PM

bdub77: Socialism is coming back.

[www.reactionface.info image 247x207]


what is interesting about that statement is how truthful it really is.
For 30 years, the conservatives have been able to win an argument by simply saying "that is socialism."

That is it, and the argument was over.

Today, the tide is turning, and more people are replying with "And?  Your point is?"
 
2013-11-11 02:59:51 PM

another cultural observer: lockers: UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.

The other being, "But I poop from there!"

Oh, delightful!  I'd forgotten the old Latin expression, "Ego autem non ab faex"


I think  puppis unde locus is more succinct, and accurate, but I like the way you think.
 
2013-11-11 04:57:15 PM

unyon: another cultural observer: lockers: UrukHaiGuyz: another cultural observer: I'm eager to hear your interpretation of "take it for granite"

Ah, delightful! A very ancient phrase indeed. Granite had been used for more than 2,000 years as a building material in Egypt, but was scorned by Romans in the 1st B.C. who saw classical Greek architecture as the pinnacle of ancient design. The phrase "take it for granite" was used as a slur against the plebians who had little training or education, and could not discern for themselves the difference between modern building materials and technologies (particularly  opus caementicium,a volcanic ash-based concrete) and quarried stones such as granite. It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.

The other being, "But I poop from there!"

Oh, delightful!  I'd forgotten the old Latin expression, "Ego autem non ab faex"

I think  puppis unde locus is more succinct, and accurate, but I like the way you think.


I couldn't believe that the latin translation of poop was "puppis", so I used "feces" instead.
 
2013-11-11 07:06:32 PM
The new new left looks a lot like the old old right. Nixon would be considered a liberal today, and a pretty far left one at that.
 
2013-11-11 07:35:48 PM
KellyX
Whatever happened to this shiat:

The New Deal followed by Taft-Hartly and McCarthyism. Standard liberal strategy: "We'll give you half of what you could win on your own, on the condition that you give up all of your power". The New Deal created the privileged Middle Class; once the Greatest Generation was out of the workforce, Reaganism hit.


Sergeant Grumbles
I don't think millenials wouldn't lean nearly so far left if the preceding generations weren't so steadfast in declaring "You just need to work harder. My god, this generation is full of entitled snowflakes." far past the point where it would even apply to the situation.

s2.quickmeme.com
moar
 
2013-11-11 09:45:28 PM
RanDomino:


Sergeant Grumbles
I don't think millenials wouldn't lean nearly so far left if the preceding generations weren't so steadfast in declaring "You just need to work harder. My god, this generation is full of entitled snowflakes." far past the point where it would even apply to the situation.

[s2.quickmeme.com image 300x450]
moar


It's like they turned my Father-in-Law into a meme.
 
2013-11-11 10:02:58 PM

another cultural observer: It eventually became synonymous with people who take everything at face value, and is one of the few ancient Latin-originating phrases still in common use.

The other being, "But I poop from there!"

Oh, delightful!  I'd forgotten the old Latin expression, "Ego autem non ab faex"

I think  puppis unde locus is more succinct, and accurate, but I like the way you think.

I couldn't believe that the latin translation of poop was "puppis", so I used "feces" instead.


It passed the 'translates back from latin to english the same way' so it worked for me.
 
2013-11-11 10:24:21 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: I'm probably mangling the quote and don't know the source, but it was something like "Don't tell us to go to college so we don't have to flip burgers and then when we graduate tell us we have to flip burgers to pay for our college."


s2.quickmeme.com

And oh, look at that. Someone got to that before me.
 
2013-11-11 10:25:08 PM
And Fark's resizing never ever works for me....
 
2013-11-11 11:06:30 PM

another cultural observer: A horse thus equipped would no doubt cause great pain and consternation to anyone the horse was ridden over.


As opposed to being ridden over by a horse that was not roughshod?
 
2013-11-11 11:41:37 PM
Sergeant Grumbles
And Fark's resizing never ever works for me....

I do it in the preview, manually changing the numbers after it automatically resizes.
 
2013-11-12 07:48:24 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: Sorry, Elizabeth Warren doesn't cut it for me. Watching her speak, she just doesn't have *it*, whatever it may be.


You're worried she might prosecute the fraudulent assholes who destroyed the entire economy instead of just giving them a slap on the wrist fine and not even making them admit guilt?
 
2013-11-12 08:37:04 AM

BullBearMS: Seth'n'Spectrum: Sorry, Elizabeth Warren doesn't cut it for me. Watching her speak, she just doesn't have *it*, whatever it may be.


You're worried she might prosecute the fraudulent assholes who destroyed the entire economy instead of just giving them a slap on the wrist fine and not even making them admit guilt?


I'm worried she won't be good enough at it.
 
2013-11-12 10:06:36 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: BullBearMS: Seth'n'Spectrum: Sorry, Elizabeth Warren doesn't cut it for me. Watching her speak, she just doesn't have *it*, whatever it may be.


You're worried she might prosecute the fraudulent assholes who destroyed the entire economy instead of just giving them a slap on the wrist fine and not even making them admit guilt?

I'm worried she won't be good enough at it.


Unlike the majority of the Progressives, she actually knows what's going on and understands the issues without the help of staff.

You only have to watch her give Treasury Secretary Geithner and the various regulators an epic smackdown in hearings a few times to realize that they can't BS her and she is not on the bank's side like they are.

She's already faced a full court press from the Plutocrats when they sought to prevent the creation of her Consumer Financial Protection Agency and she defeated them there quite handily.

Most important, unlike Hillary and whoever the Republicans run, she's not already a tool of the rich.
 
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