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(The Hill)   Democrats: we can totally beat Christie in the 2016 election long as we replace the election with a decathlon   (thehill.com) divider line 125
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2013-11-11 07:24:46 AM
They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.
 
2013-11-11 07:31:21 AM

dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.


Just show photos of him with Obama after Sandy.
 
2013-11-11 07:35:02 AM

dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.


like Mitt you mean?

also : it would't need to be a decathalon ,merely a brisk walk or a flight of stairs.
 
2013-11-11 07:46:37 AM

sithon: dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.

like Mitt you mean?

also : it would't need to be a decathalon ,merely a brisk walk or a flight of stairs.


Precisely like Mitt.  I doubt the Republicans will be looking to make the same mistake twice.  They're going to look at the recalls in Colorado, and the fact that the Democrats nearly lost Virginia once Bloomberg started spending money on pro-gun control ads there (going from a double digit lead to just 2% in the space of two weeks), and see that a pro gun control Republican is a loser for them.

Plus, look at what happened post-election:  The president and vice president tried and failed to pass any meaningful gun control.  The wagons are circled.  How long they are going to stay that way remains to be seen, but anyone who presided over gun laws like those in New Jersey or New York just isn't going to be electable.

The Republicans will be all like "Well, we *TRIED* the moderate guy and it got us nowhere".
 
2013-11-11 07:48:16 AM

dittybopper: anyone who presided over gun laws like those in New Jersey or New York just isn't going to be electable.


Unless, like I said, they undergo a very large conversion.  And it can't be a fake photo op like Kerry going duck hunting, or Obama shooting skeet.
 
2013-11-11 08:00:12 AM
I think a brisk walk over 100 yards would suffice.
 
2013-11-11 08:10:27 AM
Democrats on Christie - At least he appears to be sane.
 
2013-11-11 08:13:48 AM
If the Republicans were not firmly entrenched in crazy mode, I'd be inclined to view Christie as a legitimate contender for 2016.  As a liberal, I'm not overly thrilled with him, but he's more tolerable than many of the other candidates that have been rumored, which leads me to believe that he'll never be on their ballot of crazy unless they change the course of their ship over the next year or so.
 
2013-11-11 08:13:49 AM

dittybopper: sithon: dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.

like Mitt you mean?

also : it would't need to be a decathalon ,merely a brisk walk or a flight of stairs.

Precisely like Mitt.  I doubt the Republicans will be looking to make the same mistake twice.


Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.
 
2013-11-11 08:15:32 AM

LarryDan43: Democrats on Christie - At least he appears to be sane.


I could live w/ that, could Republicans?
 
2013-11-11 08:16:00 AM

LarryDan43: Democrats on Christie - At least he appears to be sane.


A ringing compliment considering the rest of the party.
 
2013-11-11 08:16:11 AM
Is it too early to talk about 2020? Farking Christ American politics can suck a syphilitic wang.
 
2013-11-11 08:16:47 AM

HotWingConspiracy: dittybopper: sithon: dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.

like Mitt you mean?

also : it would't need to be a decathalon ,merely a brisk walk or a flight of stairs.

Precisely like Mitt.  I doubt the Republicans will be looking to make the same mistake twice.

Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.


Right, and he still lost.  What's their incentive to put forth a moderate again?
 
2013-11-11 08:17:18 AM
Christie is a teabagger, and his "straight talk" schtick will wear thin. He's no threat to Democrats.
 
2013-11-11 08:17:41 AM

dittybopper: I doubt the Republicans will be looking to make the same mistake twice.


Sure they will. As of right now, Christie is the biggest national name they have, and he could win a lot of moderate/independent votes. I think counting him out is a huge mistake.

Think of what happened when they made John Goodman President on the West Wing. I imagine that's how Christie would reign.

Inevitably other names will rise over the next year, but I think they're going to go with Christie and they might have a damn good shot at winning. EVERYONE thought Gore had it locked up after Clinton had two very successful terms. This country really seems to like to flip the holders of power from time to time. It also depends on the economy, sentiment, and what's going on in the world. If Christie starts losing some weight and traveling the country more this year, look out. The core GOP is looking to take the party back and if they feel he can do it, they will literally throw piles of money at him just as they are doing in Congressional and Senate campaigns.

The gun issue is only an issue when the Democrats bring it up as one. He'd never propose legislation to ban guns or restrict guns at the national level and he'd never sign a law if it made it through Congress. That's all he has to say to the Derp Brigade.
 
2013-11-11 08:19:44 AM

Tomahawk513: HotWingConspiracy: dittybopper: sithon: dittybopper: They're barking up the wrong tree.  They won't be facing him.  Unless he undergoes a conversion on the Second Amendment like Saul on the road to Damascus, there is no way he's surviving the primaries.

like Mitt you mean?

also : it would't need to be a decathalon ,merely a brisk walk or a flight of stairs.

Precisely like Mitt.  I doubt the Republicans will be looking to make the same mistake twice.

Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.

Right, and he still lost.  What's their incentive to put forth a moderate again?


The chance that they could win? You cannot win from the far right.
 
2013-11-11 08:20:27 AM
Hmmmm....a governor who swears to have bipartisan support, and he's not some stuck-up George Will conservative type, no, he's a lot more considerate of people, he's a sort of a....he's a sort of...ummm...how do you say?.......oh, right!  He's a COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE!!!

And, I'm sure voters will appeal to his blue-collar ethos. He's not some stuck-up politician, no sirree, he's the kinda guy you can imaging kicking back and having a beer with.


Sheez, haven't we seen this movie before?

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2013-11-11 08:20:39 AM
"Christie is a teabagger, and his "straight talk" schtick will wear thin. He's no threat to Democrats."

If Crisp Christie is a teabagger, then Hillary is a staunch conservative who supports the Constitution.

/and I have a 15" wang. All BS.
 
2013-11-11 08:20:39 AM
Well, they do call it a race.

HotWingConspiracy: Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.


And that's just sadness personified. Bush 43 marked the end of an era as many of the GOP insiders from the Reagan era aged out but, much like their business side colleagues, failed to create their replacements. So the republicans rattling around today think they're part of the same tradition but had no tutelage from the people they're imitating.
 
2013-11-11 08:20:49 AM

dittybopper: anyone who presided over gun laws like those in New Jersey or New York just isn't going to be electable.


That'll be ancient history by 2016 - and right now, Andrew Cuomo right next door is helpfully getting everybody pissed off about gun control because of the half-assed passage of the SAFE Act and following up by not disclosing the number of newly required "assault weapon" registrations because the sheer number of such weapons even in New York would be inconvenient. The second-amendment people already can't stand Cuomo, and the good-government groups increasingly believe he's a weasel.

Whatever Christie may have done to annoy gun owners is insignificant in comparison.
 
2013-11-11 08:24:16 AM

NewportBarGuy: EVERYONE thought Gore had it locked up after Clinton had two very successful terms.


I thought he was a sanctimonious fool who couldn't make up his mind whether to condemn Clinton or embrace him after the Lewinsky mess, so he tried to do both and paid for it.
 
2013-11-11 08:24:59 AM
Republicans hate us.  Remember that.  Republicans hate Americans.
 
2013-11-11 08:25:13 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: "Christie is a teabagger, and his "straight talk" schtick will wear thin. He's no threat to Democrats."

If Crisp Christie is a teabagger, then Hillary is a staunch conservative who supports the Constitution.

/and I have a 15" wang. All BS.


Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?
 
2013-11-11 08:26:32 AM

EyeballKid: He's a COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE!!!


Chris Christie has been called many things, but "compassionate" has never been and will never be one of them.
 
2013-11-11 08:27:09 AM
As one of those registered Democrats who voted for Christie, I will say that there's no way in hell I'd vote for him for President. I'm pretty sure that polls in the state have showed most people would not vote for him, so I wouldn't take his winning here to be a sign of future performance.
 
2013-11-11 08:29:40 AM
For Christie to be considered in 2016 then 2014 would have to be a totally epic revolution or shiat-beating unlike the nation has ever seen.
 
2013-11-11 08:35:08 AM

Tomahawk513: HotWingConspiracy:

Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.

Right, and he still lost.  What's their incentive to put forth a moderate again?


After running McCain and Romney and losing, the Teagbaggers are saying they were too moderate and the party needs to shift to the right.  Since the GOP went with a moderate candidate with a nutjob running mate last two elections and lost there will be push next time around to go with a nutjob candidate with a moderate running mate.  I expect some serious LOLz in 2016.
 
2013-11-11 08:35:59 AM
"Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?"

Hugging Obama. Plus, he's bent back on property taxes (like his dem predecessor) as well as gay marriage.

Not very teabagger like, now is it?
 
2013-11-11 08:41:18 AM

Notabunny: Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?


He was willing to work with and be photographed with Obama after Sandy.
 
2013-11-11 08:41:49 AM

Muta: Tomahawk513: HotWingConspiracy:

Mitt wasn't a mistake, he was the most electable candidate they had to choose from.

Right, and he still lost.  What's their incentive to put forth a moderate again?

After running McCain and Romney and losing, the Teagbaggers are saying they were too moderate and the party needs to shift to the right.  Since the GOP went with a moderate candidate with a nutjob running mate last two elections and lost there will be push next time around to go with a nutjob candidate with a moderate running mate.  I expect some serious LOLz in 2016.


It would be fun if the teabaggers splinter off and form their own party.
 
2013-11-11 08:42:27 AM
But the Republicans will try to turn it into a sumo match.
 
2013-11-11 08:43:18 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: "Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?"

Hugging Obama. Plus, he's bent back on property taxes (like his dem predecessor) as well as gay marriage.

Not very teabagger like, now is it?


His policies are pretty teabaggerish even if his rhetoric sometimes seems moderate by comparison.

Chrisite has voted against a minimum wage hike, voted to reduce EITC, called public schools "failure factories", vetoed gay marriage and supports the forced birthers.

Sounds pretty teabaggy to me.

The only way Christie looks like a moderate is if you are a raving, foamy-mouthed, extra-chromosomed Teabagger type yourself.

*notices who he talking to*

Yeah, never mind.
 
2013-11-11 08:44:33 AM

NewportBarGuy: The gun issue is only an issue when the Democrats bring it up as one. He'd never propose legislation to ban guns or restrict guns at the national level and he'd never sign a law if it made it through Congress. That's all he has to say to the Derp Brigade.


First he's got to survive the primaries, where all the crazies will bring it up.
 
2013-11-11 08:45:42 AM
I really miss the old days when you didn't hear anything about presidential elections until the actual year they happened.

Can y'all kindly just shut the fark up?
 
2013-11-11 08:46:28 AM
"Chrisite has voted against a minimum wage hike, voted to reduce EITC, called public schools "failure factories", vetoed gay marriage and supports the forced birthers.

Sounds pretty teabaggy to me.

The only way Christie looks like a moderate is if you are a raving, foamy-mouthed, extra-chromosomed Teabagger type yourself.

*notices who he talking to*

Yeah, never mind."

Another bucket-drooling, mouth breathing dem I presume? Sounds like he voted standard repub to me. I'd imagine everyone right of Lenin sounds 'teabagger' to you.
 
2013-11-11 08:46:36 AM

Notabunny: Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?


Well for one, he was cordial with a ni*BONG*.
 
2013-11-11 08:47:06 AM
Even if Christie were the better candidate and could be trusted in 2016, I'll still have trouble voting for a Republican in that election.  As President, Christie would need republican support to get any of his agenda through congress.  So Christie would need to shift right.  A Christie presidency would give congressional republicans too much power.
 
2013-11-11 08:47:14 AM

NewportBarGuy: Think of what happened when they made John Goodman President on the West Wing. I imagine that's how Christie would reign.


I try not to get my political sense from fictional TV shows.  As I recall, The West Wing was in the same time slot as either Nova or Frontline on PBS, so naturally I watched those instead.
 
2013-11-11 08:48:36 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I'd imagine everyone right of Lenin sounds 'teabagger' to you.


I imagine everyone to the left of Hitler sounds like a Dem to you.
 
2013-11-11 08:48:46 AM

Gulper Eel: NewportBarGuy: EVERYONE thought Gore had it locked up after Clinton had two very successful terms.

I thought he was a sanctimonious fool who couldn't make up his mind whether to condemn Clinton or embrace him after the Lewinsky mess, so he tried to do both and paid for it.


That and his 'Alpha Male' conversation' early in the 2000 race. That was the worst run campaign since Dukakis.
 
2013-11-11 08:50:08 AM
"I imagine everyone to the left of Hitler sounds like a Dem to you."

You do, Do you own an oven?
 
2013-11-11 08:51:48 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Do you own an oven?


Do Dutch ones count?
 
2013-11-11 08:51:58 AM
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DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I'd imagine everyone right of Lenin sounds 'teabagger' to you.

I imagine everyone to the left of Hitler sounds like a Dem to you."


Gawd! You're Canadian to boot!. I should have known..................
 
2013-11-11 08:54:56 AM

Muta: Notabunny: Which of Christie's policies differ from teabagger agenda?

He was willing to work with and be photographed with Obama after Sandy.


A difference of style. Others have railed against federal aid, only to accept it quietly later. Remember, Christie turned down billions in free federal money to build a new train tunnel, which would have been the largest public works project in the country. Also, Christie is anti-choice, he vetoed funding for planned parenthood, he vetoed equal pay for women. Christie vetoed a same-sex marriage bill, even though most voters in New Jersey approve of it. And that's as telling as anything. Christie doesn't represent the will of his constituents. He's bully pushing the teabagger agenda, and his 15 minutes will be over long before 2016.
 
2013-11-11 08:58:20 AM
"Christie doesn't represent the will of his constituents"

Apparently, he does, he was re-elected. Remember? That said, he's just another phony politician, one in the line of many.
 
2013-11-11 09:01:07 AM

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: "Christie doesn't represent the will of his constituents"

Apparently, he does, he was re-elected. Remember? That said, he's just another phony politician, one in the line of many.


He won because he's a celebrity, not because New Jersey is deep red.
 
2013-11-11 09:04:16 AM
"He won because he's a celebrity, not because New Jersey is deep red."

Are not all politicians celebrities now? They sure as hell impress no one with deeds nor intelligence.
 
2013-11-11 09:07:27 AM

Reverend Monkeypants: I really miss the old days when you didn't hear anything about presidential elections until the actual year they happened.

Can y'all kindly just shut the fark up?


I know...I understand and I sympathize.

But I also follow Politics like most people follow sports.  Think about only getting a World Series or SuperBowl every four years.  This is a Golden Age for people like me.

Trust me....things will wind down once the Tea Party detonates and the followers start dying off.

Sorry for the annoyance.  It will come to an end though.
 
2013-11-11 09:08:26 AM
Oh wait I thought this one was running
 
2013-11-11 09:08:47 AM

dittybopper: I try not to get my political sense from fictional TV shows. As I recall, The West Wing was in the same time slot as either Nova or Frontline on PBS, so naturally I watched those instead.


I've only seen it on Netflix. Was sick for a few days and pretty much devoured the whole thing. Some great writing and acting. Mostly a nice fantasy about the government you might want to have but never will.

Gulper Eel: I thought he was a sanctimonious fool who couldn't make up his mind whether to condemn Clinton or embrace him after the Lewinsky mess, so he tried to do both and paid for it.


Not to mention he shoved his tongue down his wife's throat on stage, and acted like a goddamn robot and kept saying "LOCK BOX" in every other sentence. All the while, you've got Bush over there saying "heh heh heh... Look at that geek over there. heh heh heh... Vote for me and we'll have a beer together."

It's rare that we get a candidate that is both likeable (to the majority) and competent enough for the job. They're like unicorns.
 
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