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2013-11-11 08:15:54 AM
No longer a wild and crazy deer.
 
2013-11-11 08:22:25 AM
No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.
 
2013-11-11 08:35:20 AM
That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.
 
2013-11-11 08:36:45 AM

dittybopper: Like the broadheads, the


feathers are generally unavailable at the big box stores.  You have to either order them or go to a specialty archery store that deals in traditional archery (or make them yourself).


FTFM.
 
2013-11-11 08:38:44 AM
i586.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-11 08:39:01 AM

EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.


The same could be said of children attacked by animals. "We've got so many and obviously the bear thought they looked tasty." and the same moral argument applies. We do good because we must.
 
2013-11-11 08:39:40 AM

doglover: EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.

The same could be said of children attacked by animals. "We've got so many and obviously the bear thought they looked tasty." and the same moral argument applies. We do good because we must.


Or, "Hey, this is good practice, and I'm bored".  Either one works.
 
2013-11-11 08:51:59 AM
Just in time for deer season!
 
2013-11-11 09:26:34 AM

doglover: EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.

The same could be said of children attacked by animals. "We've got so many and obviously the bear thought they looked tasty." and the same moral argument applies. We do good because we must.


Children and deer aren't morally equivalent animals.
 
2013-11-11 09:32:27 AM

dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.


Is there no one on Fark that's not an expert at something?

/not making fun of you
/just laughing at the fact I'm reading expert analysis of a bow and arrow through a deers face at 9:30am on a Monday
 
2013-11-11 09:39:09 AM
img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-11-11 09:40:48 AM
mmmmmmmm.....venison good.......
 
2013-11-11 09:41:00 AM
Reminds me of this:

s133702574.onlinehome.us

/caution:hot
 
2013-11-11 09:41:31 AM
The most badass piercing in NJ is still Chris Christie's stomach staple.
 
2013-11-11 09:43:11 AM
So many posts and not this yet?


yafh.com
 
2013-11-11 09:43:52 AM
i.imgur.com

Bambi scoffs at poseurs.
 
2013-11-11 09:44:48 AM
Just in time for shotgun season!  http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/deer.htm
 
2013-11-11 09:47:42 AM
Here is at least one example where science ISNT contributing to the survival of mankind.

/shoulda ate it
//someone else will anyway
 
2013-11-11 09:49:05 AM

styckx: Is there no one on Fark that's not an expert at something?

/not making fun of you
/just laughing at the fact I'm reading expert analysis of a bow and arrow through a deers face at 9:30am on a Monday


That's the best part about Fark:  It's a huge, diverse community.  Some are geeks, some are artists, some are lefties, some are righties (both in hand sense and in political sense).  Some hunt, some are militant vegans.  Takes all kinds.

I like to consider this the Pearl Harbor effect*.  Japan looked at the diversity in the US back in the 1930's and saw it as a weakness, and that's why they thought they could attack us in 1941 and that they would get away with it, because our bickering would separate us, unlike the united Japanese people.  What they didn't recognize was that the diversity they saw as a weakness was actually a strength.  It allowed for different ideas to flourish and for unique solutions to intractable problems that would have been difficult or impossible in a strict hierarchy.

Fark is like that, as opposed to, say, the Democratic Underground or Free Republic, where groupthink tends to flourish and people aren't encouraged to speak out against dogma.

And it's not just political.  It's about all sorts of things.  I've learned a bunch of stuff reading and posting on Fark, not just about topics I didn't really know much about, but also about myself.

*There is also the ability of diverse people to come together when attacked by "outsiders", which partly explains the post Pearl Harbor sentiment.
 
2013-11-11 09:49:08 AM

gerbilpox: [i.imgur.com image 400x600]

Bambi scoffs at poseurs.


deviantart?
 
2013-11-11 09:50:40 AM

AntonChigger: gerbilpox: [i.imgur.com image 400x600]

Bambi scoffs at poseurs.

deviantart?


More like deviant tart, amirite, bucks?
 
2013-11-11 09:56:06 AM

EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.


As long as the hunter doesn't get fed from it. Anyone stupid enough to shoot a deer that badly deserves to starve to death.
 
2013-11-11 09:57:01 AM

dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.


Hey sir bowsalot, what do you suggest for someone just starting out and thinking archery looks fun as hell?
 
2013-11-11 09:57:34 AM

YixilTesiphon: Children and deer aren't morally equivalent animals.


Agreed. One of them is food.
 
2013-11-11 09:58:41 AM

YixilTesiphon: doglover: EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.

The same could be said of children attacked by animals. "We've got so many and obviously the bear thought they looked tasty." and the same moral argument applies. We do good because we must.

Children and deer aren't morally equivalent animals.


You're right. Deer are less annoying.
 
2013-11-11 09:59:59 AM
Yeah, good. You might have a tough time explaining that to the warden at the weigh station during rifle season.
 
2013-11-11 10:00:22 AM

r1niceboy: EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.

As long as the hunter doesn't get fed from it. Anyone stupid enough to shoot a deer that badly deserves to starve to death.


You always make perfect shots?  You've never shot at a deer and hit an imperceptible twig or vine that sent your arrow flying in crazy directions?
 
2013-11-11 10:00:34 AM

DaStompa: Hey sir bowsalot, what do you suggest for someone just starting out and thinking archery looks fun as hell?


Wii
sports
 
2013-11-11 10:00:42 AM

dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.


Is it common to shoot a deer this young when hunting?
 
2013-11-11 10:01:08 AM

AntonChigger: gerbilpox: [i.imgur.com image 400x600]

Bambi scoffs at poseurs.

deviantart?


No, actually. I rehosted as a bandwidth courtesy, but I should have cited the link:
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1440039&si d= 59785fbfb3114a170059e7c1fcb6ea56

Oh dear. Looking at it now, the people on that site aren't furries, are they?

/hawt
 
2013-11-11 10:01:30 AM

dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.


So, if they're shooting with a traditional bow, wouldn't one hope they were a better shot?

/moving targets, I know.
//Not a hunter, but enough friends hunt that I get all the snausage I need.
 
2013-11-11 10:01:58 AM

dittybopper: I like to consider this the Pearl Harbor effect*.  Japan looked at the diversity in the US back in the 1930's and saw it as a weakness, and that's why they thought they could attack us in 1941 and that they would get away with it, because our bickering would separate us, unlike the united Japanese people


Woah, woah, woah!
I thought that was Germany.
Helooooo?
remember the war? Nazis? Hitler?
Sheesh.
 
2013-11-11 10:03:00 AM

dittybopper: Fark is like that


Indeed.

It is my personal belief that a great many people could learn a great many things were they to only read with a critical eye many of the things posted here on Fark.

Except for the Politics Tab. That's still pretty stupid most of the time.
 
2013-11-11 10:06:05 AM

Marley'sGirl: Is it common to shoot a deer this young when hunting?


Absolutely, at least for archery season.

Why?  Generally, archery seasons aren't limited to antlered deer only, so you can take does and young bucks.   Last year, the 12 year old daughter of my hunting buddy got her first deer, a small button buck.

Looking at my hunting license right now, I've got 4 big game tags:  1 bear, 1 antlered deer (regular rifle), and 2 bow/muzzleloader tags for a deer of either sex.
 
2013-11-11 10:06:14 AM

DaStompa: dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.

Hey sir bowsalot, what do you suggest for someone just starting out and thinking archery looks fun as hell?


Check out the Smock Sage. Gets great reviews and can be had for about 130 usd. Get light limbs, and practice a lot to build up the muscles you'll be using. Go To a local archery shop that carries traditional archery equipment, and try to find local clubs where you can talk to experienced folks that will point you in the right direction.

But seriously, lightest limbs you can start with for the bow you choose. Your form will be better for it.

Also, archerytalk.com is a nice forum to check out.
 
2013-11-11 10:06:27 AM

doglover: EvilEgg: No to sound heartless and all, but why not just euthanize it?  It's not like deer are endangered in NJ and clearly someone was trying to make deer steaks out of it.

The same could be said of children attacked by animals. "We've got so many and obviously the bear thought they looked tasty." and the same moral argument applies. We do good because we must.


We do what we must because we can, for the good of all of us (except the ones who are dead).
 
2013-11-11 10:08:15 AM

Old_Chief_Scott: dittybopper: Fark is like that

Indeed.

It is my personal belief that a great many people could learn a great many things were they to only read with a critical eye many of the things posted here on Fark.

Except for the Politics Tab. That's still pretty stupid most of the time.


What is it about politics that makes people pants-on-head retarded, anyway?

/is it just stubbornness taken to the extreme?
 
2013-11-11 10:08:41 AM

dittybopper: AntonChigger: gerbilpox: [i.imgur.com image 400x600]

Bambi scoffs at poseurs.

deviantart?

More like deviant tart, amirite, bucks?


One of those "I know I'm going to regret this but I can't resist" moments. Usually makes for a great story down the line after all the drama...
 
2013-11-11 10:08:58 AM

flynn80: The most badass piercing in NJ is still Chris Christie's stomach staple.


...and we're done here.  I'll turn out the lights.
 
2013-11-11 10:09:36 AM

dittybopper: 2 bow/muzzleloader tags for a deer of either sex.


How to you know the deer is a hermaphrodite when you shoot it?
 
2013-11-11 10:09:56 AM
Darned autocorrect. Samick Sage. I have no idea what smock sage would be.
 
2013-11-11 10:10:45 AM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-11 10:15:25 AM

vudukungfu: How to you know the deer is a hermaphrodite when you shoot it?


This is where someone should post that picture of 3 deer humping, right?
 
2013-11-11 10:15:36 AM

Modified Wooden Paper Towel Holder: Here is at least one example where science ISNT contributing to the survival of mankind.

/shoulda ate it
//someone else will anyway


Yes, This will be a tasty end to the next deer seasons (Bow, Black-powder, and regular) for someone. Deer are prey animals, they're in the ecosystem to provide food for predators.

/Yummm...Prey
//my favorite weapon is a camera
///only 'cause I can buy better meat at the supermarket. cheaper, too.
 
2013-11-11 10:17:43 AM

Where wolf: So, if they're shooting with a traditional bow, wouldn't one hope they were a better shot?

/moving targets, I know.
//Not a hunter, but enough friends hunt that I get all the snausage I need.


Not just moving targets:  I once had a coyote close enough that I should have been able to nail him straight through with my bow.  I took the shot, and the coyote took off.  No blood on the snow, no nothing.  Couldn't find the arrow at first.  Then I saw it stuck 6 feet high into the trunk of a tree behind where the 'yote was standing.  I hit a small twig of a tree branch that I didn't even notice was between me and the coyote and that was enough to deflect the arrow that much over perhaps 10 yards (coyote was maybe 20 yards at the most away from me).

I didn't even see that branch until I started looking for reason why I would have missed so egregiously.

Then, too, you have things like target panic, failing to pick a spot, your fingers slip because they are cold or wet.  Maybe that deer wasn't the intended target, but ended up taking the arrow because when the person shot all of the deer "jumped the string" and this one happened to move his face in a most unfortunate direction.   You want an eye-opener?  Go to YouTube and search for "deer jumping the string".

In other words, there are all sorts of things that can and do go wrong.
 
2013-11-11 10:26:57 AM

dittybopper: That was from either a longbow, or a recurve.

First, the broadhead:  It looks like a Zwickey Delta, based on the shape and color.  That's a broadhead used by traditional bowhunters, not guys out with wheelie bows.  Also, you can't just walk into a Dick's Sporting Goods or Wal*Mart and buy broadheads like that, you have to either order them, or go to a specialized archery store that deals with traditional archery.

Second, the fletchings:  They are either parabolic shaped barred natural turkey feathers.  Compound bow shooters don't generally use natural feathers because their bows are faster, so smaller plastic vanes stabilize the arrow adequately, and are more weatherproof and also more available.  Like the broadheads, the

The shaft is an aluminum one, and judging by the camo and markings, it's an Easton XX75 aluminum shaft, which are popular with traditional bowhunters.  Considering the nock, it's either an 1816 or a 1916 spine.


As a "wheelie bow" hunter that uses a similar broadhead, the Abowyer Javelina, along with Beman ICS 300 Classic carbon arrow shafts, a growing number of us have been listening to the physics lessons Ed Ashby has been giving.  Typically, you will pair the single bevel broadheads with a matching left or right hand fletching.  Plastic vanes aren't typically flexible enough to install in a helical twist like that.  So, trad is a safe bet but not a sure one.

I suspect what we have here is a homemade survivalist type stick bow being handled by an idiot, or someone took a shot well past the end of their range.

I doubt that deer is going to be able to eat well so by releasing it, they've probably condemned it to a slow death this winter.
 
2013-11-11 10:28:16 AM

autopsybeverage: Darned autocorrect. Samick Sage. I have no idea what smock sage would be.


Another decent beginner option is the PSE Club bow.  My son shoots the junior version (same riser, shorter limbs), and he often out-shoots kids using compound bows like the Genesis at his archery league.  My wife is getting into archery now*, and I'll probably be getting her a PSE Club bow so that she has her own for Christmas.  I'll get her the 20 lb limbs for it.  It's not like she's going to go hunting with it, she just likes shooting.

But yes, start out with a light bow, maybe 25 or 30 lbs, work on your form, then build up strength for a heavier bow.  And don't ever "over bow" yourself:  Being a better shot with a 45 lb or 50 lb bow is better than missing with a 60 lb bow.  Keep your broadheads razor sharp, and they'll do all the work.

*Largely because of The Hunger Games, but I'm not complaining.
 
2013-11-11 10:32:11 AM

dittybopper: But yes, start out with a light bow, maybe 25 or 30 lbs, work on your form, then build up strength for a heavier bow. And don't ever "over bow" yourself: Being a better shot with a 45 lb or 50 lb bow is better than missing with a 60 lb bow. Keep your broadheads razor sharp, and they'll do all the work.

*Largely because of The Hunger Games, but I'm not complaining.


Add in a Jennifer Lawrence costume and it could be the most awesome hunting trip
 
2013-11-11 10:32:38 AM

dittybopper: Absolutely, at least for archery season.

Why? Generally, archery seasons aren't limited to antlered deer only, so you can take does and young bucks. Last year, the 12 year old daughter of my hunting buddy got her first deer, a small button buck.


Every time people rant and rave against hunting on managed ranches, I have to remind myself that people actually hunt buck fawns elsewhere.  That deer would be off limits for at least another two years down here.
 
2013-11-11 10:33:39 AM

randomarrangement: YixilTesiphon: Children and deer aren't morally equivalent animals.

Agreed. One of them is food.


Fat Bastard agrees.
 
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