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(Engadget)   "If it's a choice between the flying car or the internet, tablets and smartphones, I'll take what we've got," says former Star Trek writer   (engadget.com) divider line 72
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2013-11-11 12:12:56 AM  
We built a future on manipulating information instead of high-energy high-materials fantasies? Gee imagine that.
 
2013-11-11 12:20:43 AM  
Drivers are farking terrible enough in two dimensions. We have flying cars. They're called airplanes. What I hear when people say "flying cars" is "I want to be able to fly an airplane without a pilot's license."

HOW ABOUT NO.
 
2013-11-11 12:29:26 AM  
"Everything is going to be connected to everything else," he says: your car will tell you when it needs maintenance, your cottage cheese will tell your refrigerator it's about to expire. All of these connected objects will help create a self maintaing city.


Bull Farken Shait. It'll create more instances where goverment and employers can monitor your consumption. Even now employers are testing for nicotine along with pot etc.

I do not WANT my toaster talking to 'fridge and sending off spam like coupons to my iPhone because I didn't buy enough Cheesy Brawno bits that months and the corporation that sold the 'fridge had a EULA that made me agree to their monitoring before it would turn on.

To sum up: Old Guy has no clue about corporations work in today's market.

 
2013-11-11 12:34:32 AM  
/holodeck
 
2013-11-11 12:35:13 AM  

optikeye: "Everything is going to be connected to everything else," he says: your car will tell you when it needs maintenance, your cottage cheese will tell your refrigerator it's about to expire. All of these connected objects will help create a self maintaing city.


Bull Farken Shait. It'll create more instances where goverment and employers can monitor your consumption. Even now employers are testing for nicotine along with pot etc.

I do not WANT my toaster talking to 'fridge and sending off spam like coupons to my iPhone because I didn't buy enough Cheesy Brawno bits that months and the corporation that sold the 'fridge had a EULA that made me agree to their monitoring before it would turn on.

To sum up: Old Guy has no clue about corporations work in today's market.


This. OR a fridge that refuses to keep any non-Monsanto products cool. Or calls child services on me if I open it too many times to remove milk and go over the recommended daily allowance of dairy.
 
2013-11-11 12:37:43 AM  
It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.
 
2013-11-11 12:38:56 AM  
What doesn't anyone think of the cost of the car and fuel economy.  Do you currently drive a Lamborghini?  No?  Then don't even think about being able to afford the initial investment and fuel costs for a flying car you simple minded sack of shiat.
 
2013-11-11 12:41:05 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: This. OR a fridge that refuses to keep any non-Monsanto products cool. Or calls child services on me if I open it too many times to remove milk and go over the recommended daily allowance of dairy.


Some toilets are now have the ability to test blood sugar levels. With super internet stuff...that same toilet, would or could be a requirement to have in your home to test for drugs, pot, smokes, alcohol, or just because you ate too much pizza. Because that would raise the cost of the corporate health insurance.

Nope the biggest threat to freedom today is creeping up with our cell phones, facebook pages, and soon our appliances.

Citation for the Toilet: http://singularityhub.com/2009/05/12/smart-toilets-doctors-in-your-ba t hroom/

In 20 or 30 years...having one of those might be requirement for employment not by government but that kind corporation.
 
2013-11-11 12:51:50 AM  

costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.


Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.
 
2013-11-11 12:52:49 AM  
Why does it have to be either/or?
 
2013-11-11 12:53:05 AM  

RogermcAllen: What doesn't anyone think of the cost of the car and fuel economy.  Do you currently drive a Lamborghini?  No?  Then don't even think about being able to afford the initial investment and fuel costs for a flying car you simple minded sack of shiat.


How do you know what I spend my gubmit cheeze on? I adopted 3 kids just so I could afford an oil change.
 
2013-11-11 12:56:54 AM  
I'd prefer this anyway


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-11 01:00:49 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.


And yet your trolling remains flatlined.
 
2013-11-11 01:03:46 AM  

Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.

And yet your trolling remains flatlined.


How dare you, you Luddite? Our glorious future colonizing the Galaxy is not trolling, it's a technological inevitability. A few more gigabytes on a hard drive and watch out universe, here we come!
 
2013-11-11 01:13:20 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.


I once had a flying computer. It was my first laptop running Windows ME. Farking drivers.
 
2013-11-11 01:15:12 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.

And yet your trolling remains flatlined.

How dare you, you Luddite? Our glorious future colonizing the Galaxy is not trolling, it's a technological inevitability. A few more gigabytes on a hard drive and watch out universe, here we come!


*breaks out the air freshener* Damn man, how long where you hanging on to that one? You know if you hold it in it'll make you sick right?
 
2013-11-11 01:20:06 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I once had a flying computer. It was my first laptop running Windows ME. Farking drivers.


I bypassed that era. Held on to my Amiga for too long.

amindofiron: Quantum Apostrophe: Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.

And yet your trolling remains flatlined.

How dare you, you Luddite? Our glorious future colonizing the Galaxy is not trolling, it's a technological inevitability. A few more gigabytes on a hard drive and watch out universe, here we come!

*breaks out the air freshener* Damn man, how long where you hanging on to that one? You know if you hold it in it'll make you sick right?


Just move to a new planet. It's just like in the movies.

A few more gigabytes of RAM on my laptop and anything will be possible. These Luddites with their fancy physics and engineering are all wrong.
 
2013-11-11 01:21:07 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.

And yet your trolling remains flatlined.

How dare you, you Luddite? Our glorious future colonizing the Galaxy is not trolling, it's a technological inevitability. A few more gigabytes on a hard drive and watch out universe, here we come!


1/10, just because I answered.
 
2013-11-11 01:30:42 AM  

Alexei Novikov: Drivers are farking terrible enough in two dimensions. We have flying cars. They're called airplanes. What I hear when people say "flying cars" is "I want to be able to fly an airplane without a pilot's license."

HOW ABOUT NO.


Pretty much what I think everytime I hear "flying car," but I use more swearing. The vast majority of people aren't just horrible drivers, but outright morons. fark no to them in my airspace.
 
2013-11-11 01:41:10 AM  

rustypouch: Quantum Apostrophe: Begoggle: Quantum Apostrophe: costermonger: It's far from impossible to build a flying car. The problem is that the end result is either a shiatty car that does a bad impersonation of an airplane, or a shiatty airplane that does a bad impersonation of a car.

Yeah but computers got better therefore anything is possible. Flying computers, computing cars, you name it.

And yet your trolling remains flatlined.

How dare you, you Luddite? Our glorious future colonizing the Galaxy is not trolling, it's a technological inevitability. A few more gigabytes on a hard drive and watch out universe, here we come!

1/10, just because I answered.


Why am I surrounded by doubting Luddites tonight? Did I pack my Mars suitcase for nothing? I mean it's all so obvious to me now. The reason we didn't get the glorious visions of 1960s space colonies and flying cars is because our computers weren't powerful enough yet!
 
2013-11-11 01:43:01 AM  
To sum up this thread (which I wholeheartedly agreed with, btw):

Flying cars: Bad idea. All you do is take the idiots that are already killing people left and right due to negligence, and giving them more of a chance to do damage.

Universally interconnected information technology: Bad idea. In a perfect world it would make all our lives easier. Here in the REAL WORLD, all it does is give our government and employers more chance to invade our privacy and shove advertising down our throats. Also, it gives evil companies a justification to use Third World child labor, and a chance to destroy forests so mining companies can bleed the world of all its rare heavy metals for all those nifty microchips (coltan).
 
2013-11-11 02:06:59 AM  

optikeye: ThatBillmanGuy: This. OR a fridge that refuses to keep any non-Monsanto products cool. Or calls child services on me if I open it too many times to remove milk and go over the recommended daily allowance of dairy.

Some toilets are now have the ability to test blood sugar levels. With super internet stuff...that same toilet, would or could be a requirement to have in your home to test for drugs, pot, smokes, alcohol, or just because you ate too much pizza. Because that would raise the cost of the corporate health insurance.

Nope the biggest threat to freedom today is creeping up with our cell phones, facebook pages, and soon our appliances.

Citation for the Toilet: http://singularityhub.com/2009/05/12/smart-toilets-doctors-in-your-ba t hroom/

In 20 or 30 years...having one of those might be requirement for employment not by government but that kind corporation.


Guess I will just have to pee in the sink and shower more often than I do now. Man I'd hate to be the guy that monitored toilets for forbidden substances. Having to examine fecal matter for 8 hours straight would not be fun.
 
2013-11-11 02:15:34 AM  
Fark this cyberpunk future.

I want atomic rockets and ray guns and women wearing bikinis with fishbowl space helmets, and I won't shut up until I get them!
 
2013-11-11 02:18:19 AM  
Interesting viewpoint marred by shoddy proofing.
 
2013-11-11 02:32:46 AM  
FTA: "There's two tiers of science fiction: the McDonalds sci-fi like Star Trek, where they have an adventure and solve it before the last commercial, and there books that once you've read, you never look at the world the same way again." Like the integrated circuit, he explains how the right stories can help us grow our minds, specifically citing Dune, The Left Hand of Darkness, 1984, Fahrenheit 451 and his own War Against the Chtorr series as examples.

I'm not sure I'd be giving much cred to predictions made by the guy who wrote  War Against the Chtorr considering how well that predicted the future (the USSR wins the cold war with the help of a powerful and anti-US Third World alliance, the US is forced to sign a humiliating Treaty of Versailles-esque peace treaty but somehow becomes #1 again by being the world's manufacturing center). This was written in 1989, when better SF writers were predicting the internet and global capitalism.

His stories are fun, but he really, really sucks as a futurist. Charles Krauthammer has a better predictive record.
 
2013-11-11 02:34:54 AM  
Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?
 
2013-11-11 02:43:20 AM  

Gunther: the USSR wins the cold war with the help of a powerful and anti-US Third World alliance, the US is forced to sign a humiliating Treaty of Versailles-esque peace treaty but somehow becomes #1 again by being the world's manufacturing center


That just sounds like the story of how Japan lost WWII and then rebuilt itself as a global tech and finance hub.
 
2013-11-11 03:09:29 AM  

jso2897: Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-11-11 03:40:31 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: jso2897: Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 332x500]


Great pic.
Look, dude. You are right. The adolescent dreamers you oh-so-successfully troll are wrong.
OK?
But you could still just, like.....give it a rest, and the world would be lacking for nothing essential.
I'm just saying, is all.
 
2013-11-11 04:20:33 AM  
Now that we have self-driving cars, the flying car doesn't sound quite as much like Sky Death Frenzy.
 
2013-11-11 04:27:50 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: jso2897: Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 332x500]


Is that one of the 2013 Republican presidential candidates?
 
2013-11-11 05:17:34 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: We built a future on manipulating information instead of high-energy high-materials fantasies? Gee imagine that.


Agreed. I'll trade living on a tin can on the moon for having the sum total of human knowledge at the click of a mouse (none of this shiat of having to speak to the computer to say "computer, fetch me 3d printed donkey porn" or "query, is Wesley truly a lamewad? Analyze.")
We walk around with the HGTTG in our pockets and don't blink an eye.
The holodeck will be mankind's final invention.
 
2013-11-11 05:58:25 AM  
Sci-fi writers as a lot suffer from a lack of vision. Like "inventing a bipedal talking, rebellious robot to maintain your physical card catalog level lack of vision." Like inventing the internet, and having two teenagers sharing a blog apparently dominating it with their amazing thoughts (Ender's Game)
Like inventing FTL, then having HUMANS on the spaceships.
Or having devices that can create any kind of food, and housewives use them to make 50s style pot roast dinners instead of the plenty of foodie fusions we have today. shiat, I'm astonished at the amazing range of international cuisine available even in backwater places. Sci-writers have no goddamned sense of scale. Apparently, once we hit the Singularity, our musical culture will be defined by Wyld Stallyns. In the future, despite the capabilties to have 900 channels, we'll all be waiting expectantly for the next announcement from Space Cronkite.

And so on and so forth.

Too many people in this thread are listening to Godwinson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwqN3Ur-wP0 and not enough time listening to Lal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY57ErBkFFE
 
2013-11-11 06:12:39 AM  
We have had flying cars for over 70 years. They are called helicopters.
 
2013-11-11 06:30:10 AM  

BATMANATEE: We have had flying cars for over 70 years. They are called helicopters.


This, untill someone glues a few Martin Jetpacks togethor.
 
2013-11-11 06:44:45 AM  
Not me. I'll take the flying car FTW!

I'd be up there right now, not posting this message to a bunch of tards.
 
2013-11-11 06:46:08 AM  

Alexei Novikov: "I want to be able to fly an airplane without a pilot's license."

HOW ABOUT NO.


You can already do that. It's called a 90-day solo endorsement.
 
2013-11-11 06:51:06 AM  
You can make any car fly....

They just don't go very far and don't land well at all.
 
2013-11-11 07:04:18 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
Title text: It's hard to fit in the backseat of my flying car with my android Realdoll when we're both wearing jetpacks.
 
2013-11-11 07:22:37 AM  

optikeye: "Everything is going to be connected to everything else," he says: your car will tell you when it needs maintenance, your cottage cheese will tell your refrigerator it's about to expire. All of these connected objects will help create a self maintaing city.


Bull Farken Shait. It'll create more instances where goverment and employers can monitor your consumption. Even now employers are testing for nicotine along with pot etc.

I do not WANT my toaster talking to 'fridge and sending off spam like coupons to my iPhone because I didn't buy enough Cheesy Brawno bits that months and the corporation that sold the 'fridge had a EULA that made me agree to their monitoring before it would turn on.

To sum up: Old Guy has no clue about corporations work in today's market.


You misspelled Brawndo.

farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2013-11-11 07:40:05 AM  

optikeye: the corporation that sold the 'fridge had a EULA that made me agree to their monitoring before it would turn on.


My fridge runs linux.
 
2013-11-11 07:59:12 AM  
Meh, invent a self-driving car with no manual override, then maybe I'll think about taking it to the air.  There are enough morons out there who can't function properly even in two dimensions.

Here's my proposal: Let's invert that sentiment.  Instead of handing out driver's licenses like candy, let's make the process for obtaining and maintaining one as onerous as that for a pilot's license.  It would severely reduce traffic congestion, fatalities, road rage incidents, and emissions; it would force city planners to give much more thought to pedestrians and human-powered vehicles... what's not to love?
 
2013-11-11 08:56:44 AM  

jso2897: Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?


You have no idea who David Gerrold is, do you?
 
2013-11-11 08:58:32 AM  

Alexei Novikov: HOW ABOUT NO.


Just for short hops to the neighbors?
Maybe down to the shop for a beer?
 
2013-11-11 09:01:48 AM  
Since this whole internet thing is just becoming a scam for the government to track my every thought and footstep, I wouldn't mind trading it all for a flying car.

Maybe use it to fly someplace nice and off the grid.
 
2013-11-11 09:05:19 AM  
False Dilemma
 
2013-11-11 09:14:03 AM  
I'd be happy if they managed to replicate the technology from Portal (not the rapey, cake loving psycho robot).
 
2013-11-11 09:31:14 AM  
All I want is for my lady to tell me when she's PMSing so I don't find out they way I usually do
 
2013-11-11 09:33:05 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: jso2897: Can somebody 3-D print this clown a girlfriend?

You have no idea who David Gerrold is, do you?


I think he was referring to Quantum Apostrophe.  Or Kwame.
 
2013-11-11 09:39:54 AM  

pueblonative: I'd be happy if they managed to replicate the technology from Portal (not the rapey, cake loving psycho robot).


But that was the best part...
 
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