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(USA Today)   Shockingly, Shannon Sharpe intelligently sums up the whole Incognito incident in two minutes   (ftw.usatoday.com) divider line 102
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2013-11-11 12:46:55 AM
Shannon Sharpe is 100% correct and every African American player in that locker room, including those assclowns that called Incognito an "honorary black", need to be dropped off the Dolphins and banned from the game.  Absolutely incomprehensible they actually had the gall to go to some media outlet and say Incognito was an "honorary black person" and allowed him to say that trash in the locker room.

But cue up the Incognito defenders and the "NFL Locker Room is different so it is okay" crowd to show up and say "oh, you never played the game........you wouldn't understand......the locker room is different.......warrior's code..." blah blah blah.
 
2013-11-11 12:54:55 AM
Looking at the comments in that article, they were just what I figured they would be, a bunch of "Black people call each other that, why can't I?" If you have to ask that question you are a pretty stupid human.
 
2013-11-11 12:58:11 AM
i637.photobucket.com

/oblig
 
2013-11-11 01:15:36 AM
Shannon, what you don't realize is that in todays society, in the NFL locker rooms, men have to band together, to forget simple skin colour differences.  What you need to succeed at a team sport like football is a warriors code.  It binds men together in a quest for supremacy.  It's something you probably will never understand.

/warrior code
//it will never get old to me
 
2013-11-11 01:21:22 AM
Let me guess: "This guy is the best player in football! He didn't kill no motherfarkin lion."
 
2013-11-11 01:25:14 AM
It's funny, they tried to make a big deal over Riley Cooper, but since he's actually good (at fantasy, at the minimum) people seem to sweep it under the rug. I'd love to see ESPN burn to the ground the day Tom Brady starts throwing the N-Word around.
 
2013-11-11 01:26:39 AM

ongbok: Looking at the comments in that article, they were just what I figured they would be, a bunch of "Black people call each other that, why can't I?" If you have to ask that question you are a pretty stupid human.


They're the same people who'll ask "Why isn't there a 'White History' month?" and think they're being profound.
 
2013-11-11 01:27:53 AM

Trocadero: It's funny, they tried to make a big deal over Riley Cooper, but since he's actually good (at fantasy, at the minimum) people seem to sweep it under the rug. I'd love to see ESPN burn to the ground the day Tom Brady starts throwing the N-Word around.


If this was just about the N word, it'd blow over just like that.  It should've blown over when Paula Deen admitted to having said it.
 
2013-11-11 01:29:17 AM

Snapper Carr: ongbok: Looking at the comments in that article, they were just what I figured they would be, a bunch of "Black people call each other that, why can't I?" If you have to ask that question you are a pretty stupid human.

They're the same people who'll ask "Why isn't there a 'White History' month?" and think they're being profound.


If you want to sound really profound while staying racist, you can say this:

"I long for the day when "Black History" is shortened to simply "History"."
 
2013-11-11 01:39:05 AM
This is the thread smart people just back away from...  Nothin' to see here...
 
2013-11-11 01:39:58 AM
"I'm 45, I grew up in rural south Georgia. Just ask your parents, ask your grandparents. The mountain that they climbed so a black person in America can have respect, can have dignity.

20-25 year old black kids who have led the life of a professional athlete do not understand or appreciate that experience.  What that word means to you -- a 50-year-old man who struggled against racism and probably feared for his life in rural Geogia and was probably demeaned in horrible ways with that word -- is not what it means to them.  To them, it is a thing rappers call each other instead of "friend".  One can decide if this is progress or not.

Be prepared for a growing number of N-word controversies in the next 10 years as 60 year old sportswriters try to police the language and actions of 20 year old athletes.
 
2013-11-11 01:42:20 AM

Mi-5: Shannon Sharpe is 100% correct and every African American player in that locker room, including those assclowns that called Incognito an "honorary black", need to be dropped off the Dolphins and banned from the game.  Absolutely incomprehensible they actually had the gall to go to some media outlet and say Incognito was an "honorary black person" and allowed him to say that trash in the locker room.

But cue up the Incognito defenders and the "NFL Locker Room is different so it is okay" crowd to show up and say "oh, you never played the game........you wouldn't understand......the locker room is different.......warrior's code..." blah blah blah.


The notion that any player is going to be banned from the NFL for this or should be banned from the NFL for this kind of overlooks the multiple DUI killers, domestic abusers, serial druggies, and convicted felons playing. Not that Shannon Sharpe isn't right, but calling for a punishment that isn't going happen and could realistically never happen makes you come off like Maude Flanders.
 
2013-11-11 01:49:59 AM
I've seen Shannon Sharpe spit a lot of game over his career, because he was always really excitable when he was playing. This is the first time I've seen him legitimately, personally, enraged about something. And he's dead on about it.
 
2013-11-11 01:50:55 AM

redmid17: Mi-5: Shannon Sharpe is 100% correct and every African American player in that locker room, including those assclowns that called Incognito an "honorary black", need to be dropped off the Dolphins and banned from the game.  Absolutely incomprehensible they actually had the gall to go to some media outlet and say Incognito was an "honorary black person" and allowed him to say that trash in the locker room.

But cue up the Incognito defenders and the "NFL Locker Room is different so it is okay" crowd to show up and say "oh, you never played the game........you wouldn't understand......the locker room is different.......warrior's code..." blah blah blah.

The notion that any player is going to be banned from the NFL for this or should be banned from the NFL for this kind of overlooks the multiple DUI killers, domestic abusers, serial druggies, and convicted felons playing. Not that Shannon Sharpe isn't right, but calling for a punishment that isn't going happen and could realistically never happen makes you come off like Maude Flanders.


But... but... think of the children!
 
2013-11-11 02:00:37 AM
FTA: "I'm 45, I grew up in rural south Georgia. Just ask your parents, ask your grandparents. The mountain that they climbed so a black person in America can have respect, can have dignity.

Here's the thing though:  it may not be as bad as it was, but it still goes on down there from both sides.  I know; I lived in rural south GA, and I didn't want to raise any kids in that environment.
 
2013-11-11 02:33:44 AM
Purple bowties and speeches against racism go together like peanut butter and dice.
 
2013-11-11 02:40:15 AM

elguerodiablo: Purple bowties and speeches against racism go together like peanut butter and dice.


You've obviously never experienced black guys' fashion. Any color and style is acceptable if you have the attitude to carry it off.
 
2013-11-11 02:51:40 AM

redmid17: The notion that any player is going to be banned from the NFL for this


Thing is what Incognito said is only part of the issue, there's what he apparently forced Martin into spending on him. Like a trip to Vegas and other stuff. You've got a guy with a multi-million dollar a year contract pushing himself on a guy with a contract that's $350,000 base to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on him. That shiat just can't be allowed to fly. Incognito should've found himself in the deep end with his teammates for that alone.
 
2013-11-11 02:59:33 AM

WhyteRaven74: redmid17: The notion that any player is going to be banned from the NFL for this

Thing is what Incognito said is only part of the issue, there's what he apparently forced Martin into spending on him. Like a trip to Vegas and other stuff. You've got a guy with a multi-million dollar a year contract pushing himself on a guy with a contract that's $350,000 base to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on him. That shiat just can't be allowed to fly. Incognito should've found himself in the deep end with his teammates for that alone.


You mean the teammates who were demanding the exact same payment from other rookies? The veteran offensive linemen booked a trip to Vegas with the assent of all linemen, and then Martin didn't want to go. It wasn't just Incognito shaking him down. It was the lot of veterans pissed off that he was going to bail and leave them with the tab.

Either way, the point still stands. You have convicted killers, a guy who ran an interstate drug ring, wife beaters, and drug addicts playing the NFL. None of the shiat that happened in the Miami locker room or outside of it is going to net any kind of lifetime ban. At worst a player is going to get a year suspension, and I doubt it will reach that.
 
2013-11-11 03:03:09 AM
I'll be glad when no one uses that word.  Perhaps there are places of diversity where it is tossed around like calling someone a nerd or a redneck and no one gets offended, but they really should keep these kinds of terms off limits for another couple generations.

A while back I heard a young black guy answer his phone " What's up M'nubian".  I hope his parents beat his ass if they heard him say it.
 
2013-11-11 03:07:50 AM
Filter Pwned.  comment was What's up M'Nword.
 
2013-11-11 03:11:31 AM
Everyone has a right to use whatever language they want.  Just as the advertisers, sports merchandise purchasers, season ticketholders, individuals, teams, and professional leagues have a right to be offended and choose not to support or patronize individuals who engage in this behavior or organizations that employ them.  This all boils down to money.  If these racist players improve the team and their behavior doesn't lead to too large of a backlash on revenue, the behavior will be swept under the rug.

This has been a horrible year for the NFL.  A current player accused of killing multiple individuals, racial incidents on multiple teams, the increased awareness of the dangers the sport imposes on players due to repeated concussions and impacts.  If they don't get a handle of things, this could permanently damage the brand and lead to a decline in the importance of the sport on American society much like boxing has declined over the decades.
 
2013-11-11 03:12:53 AM

IlGreven: If you want to sound really profound while staying racist, you can say this:"I long for the day when "Black History" is shortened to simply "History"."


I see your point, I truly do, butt it makes me wonder if you are one of those who say it is impossible for a black person to be racist, because to me that would be "not helping".
 
2013-11-11 03:20:41 AM

knbwhite: IlGreven: If you want to sound really profound while staying racist, you can say this:"I long for the day when "Black History" is shortened to simply "History"."

I see your point, I truly do, butt it makes me wonder if you are one of those who say it is impossible for a black person to be racist, because to me that would be "not helping".


The only person that says that is another racist.  If you're a human being, you can be racist, period.
 
2013-11-11 03:22:21 AM

7th Son of a 7th Son: [i637.photobucket.com image 720x576]

/oblig


I came here for one image AND THAT'S THE WRONG IMAGE.

Somebody fix this, or I'm going to go prank call some NFL rookies.
 
2013-11-11 03:22:48 AM
Ninja, Ninja, Ninja all these people talking about Ninjas
 
2013-11-11 03:26:18 AM

wax_on: This is the thread smart people just back away from...  Nothin' to see here...


gifrific.com
 
2013-11-11 05:35:13 AM

ongbok: Looking at the comments in that article, they were just what I figured they would be, a bunch of "Black people call each other that, why can't I?" If you have to ask that question you are a pretty stupid human.


It's the prejudices of their parents they have to get passed before any light can shine in.
 
2013-11-11 06:51:23 AM

WhyteRaven74: redmid17: The notion that any player is going to be banned from the NFL for this

Thing is what Incognito said is only part of the issue, there's what he apparently forced Martin into spending on him. Like a trip to Vegas and other stuff. You've got a guy with a multi-million dollar a year contract pushing himself on a guy with a contract that's $350,000 base to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on him. That shiat just can't be allowed to fly. Incognito should've found himself in the deep end with his teammates for that alone.


This is the sort of behavior you see in a long-term domestic abuse situation. Martin really does exhibit traits of being a battered wife.
 
2013-11-11 06:57:50 AM

UNC_Samurai: Martin really does exhibit traits of being a battered wife.


Yeah he does. And thing is, it's not the sort of thing that just happens in a few weeks either. Even if his relationship with Icognito doesn't go far back, then something else was going on to condition Martin to respond as he did.
 
2013-11-11 07:20:01 AM

Trocadero: It's funny, they tried to make a big deal over Riley Cooper, but since he's actually good (at fantasy, at the minimum) people seem to sweep it under the rug. I'd love to see ESPN burn to the ground the day Tom Brady starts throwing the N-Word around.


What if it were Tebow?  They'd implode.
 
2013-11-11 07:24:24 AM
can't wait for the rest of the racists to wake up and comment
 
2013-11-11 07:27:38 AM

Mi-5: Shannon Sharpe is 100% correct and every African American player in that locker room, including those assclowns that called Incognito an "honorary black", need to be dropped off the Dolphins and banned from the game.  Absolutely incomprehensible they actually had the gall to go to some media outlet and say Incognito was an "honorary black person" and allowed him to say that trash in the locker room.

But cue up the Incognito defenders and the "NFL Locker Room is different so it is okay" crowd to show up and say "oh, you never played the game........you wouldn't understand......the locker room is different.......warrior's code..." blah blah blah.


Aren't you adorable.
 
2013-11-11 07:37:43 AM
You could tell that this issue really bothers Shannon.  His body language, tone of voice, etc. are all different from his normal babbling happy-go-lucky delivery. I've never seen him talk like that before.
 
2013-11-11 07:43:28 AM
That was well said and extremely powerful. Tipping my cap
 
2013-11-11 07:56:37 AM
Another soap box speech...sigh
 
2013-11-11 08:17:17 AM
Shannon Sharpe talks like he has a mouth full of marbles...and is the worst sports announcer on TV.There's plenty of film out there of him saying the exact same thing to other players on the field.
 
2013-11-11 08:27:30 AM
I really wish Fark had a "MediaFrenzy" tab where the Incognito, Miley Cyrus, etc. threads for the media feeding frenzy topics of the day go have their hourly green lights.  It might free up some green lights on the other tabs for topics that haven't yet been beaten to death.

(Waiting for the solemn round-table discussion by ex-jocks about whether wedgies constitute bullying, or whether that term should be reserved only for atomic wedgies.)
 
2013-11-11 08:34:45 AM

fastfxr: Shannon Sharpe talks like he has a mouth full of marbles...and is the worst sports announcer on TV.There's plenty of film out there of him saying the exact same thing to other players on the field.


You misspelled "Michael Irvin"

/Loved the time Tom Jackson called him out on ESPN after he was going on and on about something, and said "Are you retarded?"
 
2013-11-11 08:38:52 AM

bluorangefyre: FTA: "I'm 45, I grew up in rural south Georgia. Just ask your parents, ask your grandparents. The mountain that they climbed so a black person in America can have respect, can have dignity.

Here's the thing though:  it may not be as bad as it was, but it still goes on down there from both sides.  I know; I lived in rural south GA, and I didn't want to raise any kids in that environment.




Sharpe never experienced racism in Georgia. He was a football star. That makes him a god in the south. They don't care what color your skin is if you can play.
 
2013-11-11 08:47:01 AM

HotWingAgenda: I've seen Shannon Sharpe spit a lot of game over his career, because he was always really excitable when he was playing. This is the first time I've seen him legitimately, personally, enraged about something. And he's dead on about it.


THIS

I wish I could put together a take that good.
 
2013-11-11 09:12:54 AM

Trocadero: It's funny, they tried to make a big deal over Riley Cooper, but since he's actually good (at fantasy, at the minimum) people seem to sweep it under the rug. I'd love to see ESPN burn to the ground the day Tom Brady starts throwing the N-Word around.


To be fair, he was also ostracized, underwent counseling, and essentially went off the grid for three months until Foles started throwing to him, and that was for angrily, drunkenly using the word once at a concert. There are far more layers to this story.
 
2013-11-11 09:27:59 AM
I don't know if Incognito was out of the ordinary of his treatment of Martin, I've heard similar stories over the years. I'm sure there has been young players before Martin who said "Fark this bullshait" and left the NFL, but Martin was the first to call his teammates and organization out on the behavior.

Sharpe has a point, if Incognito was running around the locker room throwing the n-word without a care in the world somebody should have took him aside and say "Hey, you are a good guy, but don't use that word." It didn't have to be a black player or coach but anybody, that's a huge breakdown in the clubhouse.

The dual nature of that word has been around for hundreds of years, the segregation between White and Black culture made that duality possible, but with at least the media cultural segregation completely erased, and greater strides made between actual integration between real people, it is going to be incredibly difficult for the dual nature of that word to exist.
 
2013-11-11 09:28:12 AM
I only caution that this story is likely to get much worse before it gets better.
 
2013-11-11 09:29:36 AM

RedZoneTuba: I really wish Fark had a "MediaFrenzy" tab where the Incognito, Miley Cyrus, etc. threads for the media feeding frenzy topics of the day go have their hourly green lights.  It might free up some green lights on the other tabs for topics that haven't yet been beaten to death.


That's actually a very good idea.
 
2013-11-11 09:44:00 AM

John Buck 41: RedZoneTuba: I really wish Fark had a "MediaFrenzy" tab where the Incognito, Miley Cyrus, etc. threads for the media feeding frenzy topics of the day go have their hourly green lights.  It might free up some green lights on the other tabs for topics that haven't yet been beaten to death.

That's actually a very good idea.


Call it "Chum"
 
2013-11-11 09:45:37 AM

Komplex: I don't know if Incognito was out of the ordinary of his treatment of Martin, I've heard similar stories over the years. I'm sure there has been young players before Martin who said "Fark this bullshait" and left the NFL, but Martin was the first to call his teammates and organization out on the behavior.

Sharpe has a point, if Incognito was running around the locker room throwing the n-word without a care in the world somebody should have took him aside and say "Hey, you are a good guy, but don't use that word." It didn't have to be a black player or coach but anybody, that's a huge breakdown in the clubhouse.

The dual nature of that word has been around for hundreds of years, the segregation between White and Black culture made that duality possible, but with at least the media cultural segregation completely erased, and greater strides made between actual integration between real people, it is going to be incredibly difficult for the dual nature of that word to exist.


The problem is, he's not a good guy.  How he hasn't had the shiat beaten out of him by another teammate is odd to me.  But then again, a part of me isn't surprised, b/c he played dirty AKA he worked hard on the field.

You hear about Incognito dealing with bullying himself when he was a little kid b/c he was fat.  But instead of using that to become a better person and player, he becomes a bully himself, and does his best to cover up his insecurities by pretending to be some overbearing guy that tries to intimidate people.

And the more that comes out of this, the more Jeff Ireland is painted as a worthless human being.
 
2013-11-11 09:46:03 AM
These people are over 21, therefore they should behave like adults.
These people get paid to do this, therefore they should behave like professionals.

The rest is all bullshiat.
 
2013-11-11 09:57:09 AM

Crewmannumber6: These people are over 21, therefore they should behave like adults.
These people get paid to do this, therefore they should behave like professionals.


Have you not been introduced to a little something called the WARRIOR CODE?

Seriously, though, I wish the media would get over its love affair with the Incognito interview and start reporting on the actual legal implications here. In other words, do their jobs.
 
2013-11-11 10:02:48 AM

FrancoFile: John Buck 41: RedZoneTuba: I really wish Fark had a "MediaFrenzy" tab where the Incognito, Miley Cyrus, etc. threads for the media feeding frenzy topics of the day go have their hourly green lights.  It might free up some green lights on the other tabs for topics that haven't yet been beaten to death.

That's actually a very good idea.

Call it "Chum"


Because people can't be bothered to not click on things they don't care about
 
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