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(Orlando Sentinel)   At fourteen years of age, this man lied about his age in order to join the military, and now he's telling his story for Veteran's Day   (orlandosentinel.com ) divider line
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2013-11-10 08:10:34 PM  
14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.
 
2013-11-10 08:12:06 PM  

the801: 14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.


Great, now that's in my Google search history.
 
2013-11-10 10:54:51 PM  
My great-uncle Walter Taylor lied about his age too in WWII and joined the Navy, and managed to save a ship, lives, and a harbor when he was 16 by running down into and flooding the storage bay of the munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit.

We only found out the story after he died.
 
2013-11-11 01:01:11 AM  
Being the eve of Veterans Day, I'll tell the tale of my neighbor Wayne Mahana.( I think that was his last name) he was born in 1900, and shared the same birthday as Hitler. He came from a long line of military family, having a grandfather in the Civil War.

Wayne admitted he was a bit of a problem kid.. Like fighting. So when WWI broke out , he lied about his age. He went back to his parents and told them what he had done. His mom wanted to go down and get him unlisted, his father said , "let him be, the only way he'll learn"

Wayne aside "I lied to get into the war. And when I got to the front, would have lied to get out of it." He got shrapnel in his legs and got shipped to a hospital. Having enough of the front, a small group of soldiers at the hospital decided to desert from the hospital. They were caught by the guards, and their uniforms taken away to differentiate them. The next day the Armistice was declare, so the whole staff place became a big party. The group convinced the few of the nurses to retrieve their uniforms. Apparently that's how that hospital kept track...so when the military police came by, there was no record of their desertion.

Anyways he was a cool dude, and I had a chance to talk to him lots of times when I was a kid.

He'd talk about some of the things about the war. Apparently they had a bear cub for a mascot. But he never talked about the fighting. they seldom do.
 
2013-11-11 01:29:56 AM  

the801: 14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.


so you're saying that while society says that when a 14 year old lies about her age in order to be a stripper, it is a bad thing, In reality that 14 year old is actually a hero?
 
2013-11-11 01:33:26 AM  
also...

Calvin Graham laughs at grandpa Andy Caraker.
 
2013-11-11 02:30:15 AM  

log_jammin: the801: 14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.

so you're saying that while society says that when a 14 year old lies about her age in order to be a stripper, it is a bad thing, In reality that 14 year old is actually a hero?


It depends. Does she save anyone's life by stripping? Imagine some 14 year old girl with a big heart under a bigger bosom has a family member with some disease who needs medicine. In Soviet America, sick people don't get medicine just because they're sick. If said girl lied about her age to work the pole to raise money for this relative, is she not a hero?

It's the same here. Just because a man joins the military, he's not automatically a hero. My friends from college knew a guy who joined the military because Halo was too easy and he wanted more of a thrill and after 9/11 he knew there'd be a shooting war. That's not heroic at any age.

Heroism is mostly defined not by your actions, but your motivations and the effectiveness.
 
2013-11-11 02:43:13 AM  

doglover: It depends. Does she save anyone's life by stripping? Imagine some 14 year old girl with a big heart under a bigger bosom has a family member with some disease who needs medicine. In Soviet America, sick people don't get medicine just because they're sick. If said girl lied about her age to work the pole to raise money for this relative, is she not a hero?

It's the same here. Just because a man joins the military, he's not automatically a hero. My friends from college knew a guy who joined the military because Halo was too easy and he wanted more of a thrill and after 9/11 he knew there'd be a shooting war. That's not heroic at any age.

Heroism is mostly defined not by your actions, but your motivations and the effectiveness.


If there is one thing Fark lacks, it's people who feel the need to lecture others on what the definition of "hero" is.*


*scarcasm
 
2013-11-11 02:49:40 AM  

log_jammin: doglover: It depends. Does she save anyone's life by stripping? Imagine some 14 year old girl with a big heart under a bigger bosom has a family member with some disease who needs medicine. In Soviet America, sick people don't get medicine just because they're sick. If said girl lied about her age to work the pole to raise money for this relative, is she not a hero?

It's the same here. Just because a man joins the military, he's not automatically a hero. My friends from college knew a guy who joined the military because Halo was too easy and he wanted more of a thrill and after 9/11 he knew there'd be a shooting war. That's not heroic at any age.

Heroism is mostly defined not by your actions, but your motivations and the effectiveness.

If there is one thing Fark lacks, it's people who feel the need to lecture others on what the definition of "hero" is.*


*scarcasm


a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

I hope this helps.

Also thank you for adopting the asterisk. Slashies are so pre sup button
 
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2013-11-11 03:56:56 AM  
Kid Sampson would have approved
 
2013-11-11 04:14:41 AM  
*sarcasm

a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

I'll go with that.
 
2013-11-11 04:21:39 AM  

sleeps in trees: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: My great-uncle Walter Taylor lied about his age too in WWII and joined the Navy, and managed to save a ship, lives, and a harbor when he was 16 by running down into and flooding the storage bay of the munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit.

We only found out the story after he died.

My granddad was 16. From what he said it was commonplace.


What? Running down into the storage bay of a munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit and flooding it was commonplace? Geez, they really were made of sterner stuff back then.
 
2013-11-11 04:24:11 AM  

the801: 14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.


Not every 14 year old boy can sign up for a war and kill guys/save lives effectively. Any and most 14 year old girls can be a whore. Just watch Maury Povich. Or a high school.
 
2013-11-11 04:25:18 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: sleeps in trees: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: My great-uncle Walter Taylor lied about his age too in WWII and joined the Navy, and managed to save a ship, lives, and a harbor when he was 16 by running down into and flooding the storage bay of the munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit.

We only found out the story after he died.

My granddad was 16. From what he said it was commonplace.

What? Running down into the storage bay of a munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit and flooding it was commonplace? Geez, they really were made of sterner stuff back then.


No internet porn. Teenage boys thought they had nothing to live for.
 
2013-11-11 04:31:36 AM  

doglover: No Catchy Nickname: sleeps in trees: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: My great-uncle Walter Taylor lied about his age too in WWII and joined the Navy, and managed to save a ship, lives, and a harbor when he was 16 by running down into and flooding the storage bay of the munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit.

We only found out the story after he died.

My granddad was 16. From what he said it was commonplace.

What? Running down into the storage bay of a munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit and flooding it was commonplace? Geez, they really were made of sterner stuff back then.

No internet porn. Teenage boys thought they had nothing to live for.


That...that actually makes perfect sense!
 
2013-11-11 04:45:41 AM  
Quick rant, if I may.

I'm not all rah-rah about the military and I'm definitely not pro-war. War is wasteful and heartbreaking to everyone but bankers.

I read articles about returning soldiers who cannot get proper treatment for TBI and other disabling injuries. I read articles about active duty personnel and vets offing themselves in alarming numbers.

Then, I see shiat like this:

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Just makes me want to barf.

Okay. Done biatching.

Happy Veteran's Day to our vet farkers.
 
2013-11-11 04:53:55 AM  

log_jammin: the801: 14 year old lies about age in order to be a
soldier - HERO!
stripper - BAD!

what a wacky world.

so you're saying that while society says that when a 14 year old lies about her age in order to be a stripper, it is a bad thing, In reality that 14 year old is actually a hero?


I'd like to think that someone who has been brought up to worship the military so much they commit fraud at the tender young age of 14 to join the military is the true tragedy (oops sorry for stating the obvious/possibly deflating the snark). Mind you I'm fine with people closer to adulthood making the considered decision to commit a part of their lives to the military but at 14 they don't have the mindset to properly make that choice and frankly, we don't need a bunch of kids on the battlefield in our uniforms. The fact that this worked out for this guy is the true miracle, and not to be taken as proof that teenagers have any place in Boot.
 
2013-11-11 05:03:58 AM  
His story really isn't that unusual for the time.  My parents had a few friends that did that in the late 1930's.
 
2013-11-11 05:04:41 AM  
Is it past the statute of limitations to charge him with a federal crime?
 
2013-11-11 05:11:33 AM  
Crotchrocket Slim: someone who has been brought up to worship the military so much they commit fraud at the tender young age of 14 to join the military


Caraker, who quit school in eighth grade, was working on a dairy truck in Jacksonville - a job he hated - when he passed a Marine in dress blues along the milk route.
"I saw this white cap and blue uniform with a red stripe down the leg," he said. "By golly, I thought, I'm going to sign up for that."


but hey. go one with your bad ass assumption making self.
 
2013-11-11 05:13:44 AM  

Another Government Employee: His story really isn't that unusual for the time.  My parents had a few friends that did that in the late 1930's.


a 20% unemployment rate tends to make that happen.
 
2013-11-11 05:23:58 AM  

Mixolydian Master: Is it past the statute of limitations to charge him with a federal crime?


possibly not,
 further

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/falsestatements_2.htm

Lying to Get Into the Military is a Felony
Let's get straight to the point. Knowingly giving false information or withholding required information on any recruiting form is a criminal offense (When the information would have made an individual ineligible to enlist, or would have required a waiver to enlist). It's not a misdemenor, it's not the same as getting a speeding ticket. It's a felony offense, punishable by a $10,000 fine and three years in prison. If you lie to get into the military, you are committing a felony. It's that simple. If you get away with it long enough to actually enlist, and are caught later, it's also a "military offense." You can be prosecuted for a violation of
"Any person who--
(1) procures his own enlistment or appointment in the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his qualifications for that enlistment or appointment and receives pay or allowances thereunder; or

(2) procures his own separation from the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his eligibility for that separation; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

The Manual for Courts-martial (MCM) lists the maximum punishment for a violation of this article as: dishonorable discharge, reduction to the lowest enlisted rank, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement at hard labor for two years.
The 13a. My acceptance for enlistment is based on the information I have given in my application for enlistment. If any of that information is false or incorrect, this enlistment may be voided or terminated administratively by the Government, or I may be tried by Federal, civilian, or military court, and, if found guilty, may be punished.
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2013-11-11 05:31:48 AM  
I remember a made for TV movie about something along these lines, very odd story.
 
2013-11-11 05:40:28 AM  

groppet: I remember a made for TV movie about something along these lines, very odd story.


Too young the hero starring ricky schroder

I linked to the guys(who the movie was about, not ricky schroder) wiki entry up thread.
 
2013-11-11 05:48:18 AM  
My dad enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor at 17 and didn't have parental permission. He went to the recruiting station with his older brother who lied for him. The plan was they would both sign up for the coast guard. Well my uncle goes first and spends the war in Jacksonville defending the coast. My dad was moved over to the army line and spent the war in North Africa, Italy, France and Germany. He didn't talk about the war much but did tell me some things.
 
2013-11-11 06:19:01 AM  
My grandfather signed up to be a pilot when he was 19 to get chicks. He then spent the war in England.

/irony sucks sometimes.
 
2013-11-11 06:24:13 AM  
Seems like none of the WWII guys like to talk about the fighting at all. Despite urging I was never able to extract much info from my any of my now gone relatives who fought in WWII in Europe.

But I did hear a great story about a French railroad tanker car full of wine that was 'liberated' from the Nazis. The ensuing party was apparently epic. As was the hangover.
 
2013-11-11 07:20:22 AM  
I heard a story from my uncle who was fighting in the South seas. They would load up a fighter plane with beer and fly it really high and when it landed, the beer was nice and cold.
 
2013-11-11 07:45:39 AM  
They should imprison everyone who lied about their age for committing fraud on federal documents.
 
2013-11-11 07:58:38 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: doglover: No Catchy Nickname: sleeps in trees: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: My great-uncle Walter Taylor lied about his age too in WWII and joined the Navy, and managed to save a ship, lives, and a harbor when he was 16 by running down into and flooding the storage bay of the munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit.

We only found out the story after he died.

My granddad was 16. From what he said it was commonplace.

What? Running down into the storage bay of a munitions ship that was on fire after a torpedo hit and flooding it was commonplace? Geez, they really were made of sterner stuff back then.

No internet porn. Teenage boys thought they had nothing to live for.

That...that actually makes perfect sense!


Also the reason violent crime is down.

Behold the power of porn.
 
2013-11-11 08:05:27 AM  
Using child soldiers is a war crime.
 
2013-11-11 08:20:51 AM  
A 150 lb 14 year old? Jesus that's a big kid.
 
2013-11-11 09:00:00 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: A 150 lb 14 year old? Jesus that's a big kid.


Especially in 1941
 
2013-11-11 09:27:25 AM  

Erebus1954: Seems like none of the WWII guys like to talk about the fighting at all. Despite urging I was never able to extract much info from my any of my now gone relatives who fought in WWII in Europe.

But I did hear a great story about a French railroad tanker car full of wine that was 'liberated' from the Nazis. The ensuing party was apparently epic. As was the hangover.


Stories my dad did tell:

Being on guard duty his first month in N. Africa and shooting a local that just slit the throat of his friend.
Having a sniper shoot off his helmet.
Losing his M1 on the beach landing in Italy.
Monte Cassino, with the locals coming after them with pitchforks.

There are a few more he shared but that is it. Some stories defy belief. Other make you cringe. He did help liberate a concentration camp. I didn't know that until a visiting German friend of the family started to talk about how the holocaust was not real and just stories to scare kids. He described in detail what he saw, with much anger in his voice.
 
2013-11-11 09:41:26 AM  
My grandfather was in WWI, and fought at Vimy Ridge. He never spoke about the war, but always had to sleep in the bedroom in my grandparents house that faced the street, because he wouldn't sleep in total darkness, having been buried alive twice during the trench warfare in France. Then when WWII came along, my two uncles signed up, so they "wouldn't shame the old man!" My oldest uncle Lew failed basic training on purpose, so when my other uncle Bud got there they would be together. I recently found out that Lew was on the beach during the Normandy invasion, with the Canadian troops. They both survived the war, came home, Lew with a bride from England and lived quite happy long lives. I am so thankful for the three of them for what they did and I am more thankful that my dad was too young to go to war and that neither my brother or husband or son have ever had to go to war.
 
2013-11-11 10:15:01 AM  
My grandfather did the same thing after coming home from school one day to find his parents had moved out with his brother and he was on his own.  They found out his age, kicked him out, then he re-enlisted when he was of age.  He was kind of a badass.
 
2013-11-11 11:12:48 AM  
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Considered lying about his age to enlist.
 
2013-11-11 01:05:30 PM  
My dad joined at the age of 16. Similar story, his step dad had kicked him out of the house and he had nowhere to go.
 
2013-11-11 03:53:35 PM  
GIS for `14 year old soldier`

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2013-11-11 03:55:08 PM  
GIS for `14 year old soldier`

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