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2013-11-10 06:28:36 PM  
Homeschooling should be a last resort, not an excuse to shelter your carnal participation trophy from the evils of reality.
 
2013-11-10 06:29:23 PM  
I wish I could forget some of the stuff I've learned online.
 
2013-11-10 06:48:36 PM  
It's a well known fact that 47% of all statistics online are false.
 
2013-11-10 06:48:42 PM  
It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.

-RAND PAUL
 
2013-11-10 06:49:04 PM  
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Pretty sure that aphorism was written to describe home-schooling parents.
 
2013-11-10 06:49:10 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: I wish I could forget some of the stuff I've learned online.


Oh yes....

The things I've read.

And seen.


strangefunny.com
 
2013-11-10 06:49:31 PM  
2G+1C=?
 
2013-11-10 06:50:31 PM  
Homeschool your children. Public education is dangerous. Every public schoolkid is a future enemy.

-RAND PAUL
 
2013-11-10 06:52:19 PM  
Even without an organized curriculum to guide someone, anyone who craves knowledge will find it.

Telling someone to educate themselves (or, indeed, to 'study it out') by sitting them in front of a Firefox window and leaving them alone for a while is like treating a diabetic by giving him the key to a pharmacy.  Sure, the right answers are in there somewhere, and you might even have a vague idea where to look for them, but the end result is most likely not going to be good.


My own homeschool curriculum, the Ron Paul Curriculum, makes passing the CLEP exams a priority. This is a feather in the student's academic cap, and it's a ton of money in the parents' wallets when a student can skip courses, or even whole grades.

Always trust your kids' education to someone who thinks Freshman year of college is "13th grade".


/Random Fact: Ron Paul was 60 years old when Internet Explorer 1.0 came out
 
2013-11-10 06:52:56 PM  
My own homeschool curriculum, the Ron Paul Curriculum, makes passing the CLEP exams a priority. This is a feather in the student's academic cap, and it's a ton of money in the parents' wallets when a student can skip courses, or even whole grades.

Wait, what? RON PAUL has a homeschool curriculum? Please tell me yer shiatting me.

*clicks link*

Here, students learn the basics of Western Civilization and Western liberty -- how it was won, how it is being lost, and how it will be restored. (Not can . . .  will.)
Students also learn the basics of American history, the United States Constitution, and American geography.
They get two courses on free market economics. They get two courses on government, including a how-to course on reclaiming America, one county at a time.

*head desk*
 
2013-11-10 06:54:18 PM  
Home schooling is great, but unfortunately t-tards have destroyed its reputation via 16 hour home derp sessions to brainwash the ignorant little f*cks into being the next generation of welfare loving tards.
/Child protective services are on the way.
 
2013-11-10 06:54:20 PM  

dookdookdook: Even without an organized curriculum to guide someone, anyone who craves knowledge will find it.

Telling someone to educate themselves (or, indeed, to 'study it out') by sitting them in front of a Firefox window and leaving them alone for a while is like treating a diabetic drug addict by giving him the key to a pharmacy.  Sure, the right answers are in there somewhere, and you might even have a vague idea where to look for them, but the end result is most likely not going to be good.


My own homeschool curriculum, the Ron Paul Curriculum, makes passing the CLEP exams a priority. This is a feather in the student's academic cap, and it's a ton of money in the parents' wallets when a student can skip courses, or even whole grades.

Always trust your kids' education to someone who thinks Freshman year of college is "13th grade".


/Random Fact: Ron Paul was 60 years old when Internet Explorer 1.0 came out


FTFY
 
2013-11-10 06:57:03 PM  

quatchi: My own homeschool curriculum, the Ron Paul Curriculum, makes passing the CLEP exams a priority. This is a feather in the student's academic cap, and it's a ton of money in the parents' wallets when a student can skip courses, or even whole grades.

Wait, what? RON PAUL has a homeschool curriculum? Please tell me yer shiatting me.

*clicks link*

Here, students learn the basics of Western Civilization and Western liberty -- how it was won, how it is being lost, and how it will be restored. (Not can . . .  will.)
Students also learn the basics of American history, the United States Constitution, and American geography.
They get two courses on free market economics. They get two courses on government, including a how-to course on reclaiming America, one county at a time.

*head desk*


Scoff all you want but I actually took his course on African-American history and learned a lot. They're a very fleet footed people!
 
2013-11-10 06:58:15 PM  
Keep them ignorant and they will keep voting for Rand Paul types.
 
2013-11-10 07:01:18 PM  
So, he writes a dead tree book that states you can learn everything you need to know on the intertubes?

Who's gonna read his book???
 
2013-11-10 07:01:23 PM  

dookdookdook: Telling someone to educate themselves (or, indeed, to 'study it out') by sitting them in front of a Firefox window and leaving them alone for a while is like treating a diabetic by giving him the key to a pharmacy.


Actually, there's some schools that are doing exactly this. And it's working. That's not to say there shouldn't be any oversight or guidance, but the results are very interesting.

I recommend reading this article. It's fascinating. We need to completely change how we think about education. Link
 
2013-11-10 07:01:35 PM  

quatchi: Wait, what? RON PAUL has a homeschool curriculum? Please tell me yer shiatting me.

*clicks link*


I love how right at the top-center there's a link to click where old, blind people can make the text bigger, then when you click it all it does is make the font on a handful of sections smaller.

...

Oh wait, I see the problem now, I forgot to update Netscape.

Please Note: Text Size Changing does not work on older versions of Netscape Navigator.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-10 07:13:17 PM  
 
2013-11-10 07:16:06 PM  
Is there a section of his book that explains how to set up a certification board so that I could practice medicine w/o a proper license?
 
2013-11-10 07:16:34 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-10 07:22:34 PM  

Churchill2004: Oh, it gets better...


Yikes.

I thought this was interesting though.

American evangelicals have tended to hold that the bloodthirsty pre-Talmudic Mosaic code, with its quick resort to capital punishment, its flogging and stoning and countenancing of slavery, was mostly if not entirely superseded by the milder precepts of the New Testament (the "dispensationalist" view, as it's called). Not so, say the Reconstructionists. They reckon only a relative few dietary and ritualistic observances were overthrown.

And I think they're right. In the New Testament only the way you should bring your sacrifice to the tabernacle and eating pork, shellfish, and such were overturned explicitly. It doesn't appear that any other Mosaic law was explicitly overturned. To illustrate this, why keep the 10 commandments and not the other 600 or so commandments in the next book over?
 
2013-11-10 07:23:24 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 780x428]


I'm really curious about creationist chemistry and physics.
 
2013-11-10 07:25:37 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-10 07:27:09 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Homeschooling should be a last resort, not an excuse to shelter your carnal participation trophy from the evils of reality.


This.  Home schooling should require a waiver only issued upon demonstration of special need presented before a judge, and contingent upon regular review by social services.
 
2013-11-10 07:28:11 PM  
My youngest is homeschooling this year after a 5th grade year the was comprised mostly of bullying by both students and TEACHERS because my son thinks for himself and found himself on the wrong side of the science teacher for bringing up evolution during the annual flu shot clinic....I pulled him from the quasi-religious public school he was in, where they were dedicating the first 15 minutes of the school day on crap like the Pledge of Allegence and a mandatory "moment of silence" that was actively promoted as time for praying by the actual teachers.  They were devoting 4 hours a day to reading and literacy (which he scores 12th grade level in,) and 2 hours per day on math (he passed an Algebra test so he did not need another three years of "basic math" repetition) but less than 30 minutes per day each on science and social studies.

We adopted a secular, integrated curriculum wherein his writing, reading, and math assignments are determined by what he is learning in science and history classes.  It's made him self-disciplined.  He was able to skip three entire school years of "no child gets ahead" learning.  He's decided to learn to speak Spanish, and he's reading books that he ENJOYS, even if they would be considered too controversial for the public school library to even carry (He's knocked out Lord of the Flies, LOTR and the Hobbit, and Tom Sawyer so far and it's only November!)  He also has time to study fine art, music, and to be involved in our local Boy's and Girl's Club athletics, so that he still gets social time with children his own age. He's thriving and at the rate he is going, he'll be ready to take the ACT by the time he's 14.

So, you folks that think "home school" equates to "religious agenda" must not realize that in SOME states the religious agenda is IN the public schools...where they simply avoid any controversial anti-nationalist agenda parts of history, and skip over the entire concept of evolution because they conveniently "run out of time" before they get to it.  Making my child sit through another 6 years of mediocrity, simply because that is the way public school is designed, was a waste of his potential.
 
2013-11-10 07:28:54 PM  

sheep snorter: Home schooling is great,


Not really.
 
2013-11-10 07:30:44 PM  
Anti-vaxxers should have to home school there kids
 
2013-11-10 07:31:10 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: I wish I could forget some of the stuff I've learned online.


That reminds me of this one time when I went on the internet and found this:
www.zcars.com.au
I mean LOOK AT IT! This is just pure pornography. It's the convertible version of the Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione.
 
2013-11-10 07:31:30 PM  

Churchill2004: Oh, it gets better...


Son of a...I wish I hadn't read that.
 
2013-11-10 07:31:54 PM  

Teresaol31: My youngest is homeschooling this year after a 5th grade year the was comprised mostly of bullying by both students and TEACHERS because my son thinks for himself and found himself on the wrong side of the science teacher for bringing up evolution during the annual flu shot clinic....I pulled him from the quasi-religious public school he was in, where they were dedicating the first 15 minutes of the school day on crap like the Pledge of Allegence and a mandatory "moment of silence" that was actively promoted as time for praying by the actual teachers.  They were devoting 4 hours a day to reading and literacy (which he scores 12th grade level in,) and 2 hours per day on math (he passed an Algebra test so he did not need another three years of "basic math" repetition) but less than 30 minutes per day each on science and social studies.

We adopted a secular, integrated curriculum wherein his writing, reading, and math assignments are determined by what he is learning in science and history classes.  It's made him self-disciplined.  He was able to skip three entire school years of "no child gets ahead" learning.  He's decided to learn to speak Spanish, and he's reading books that he ENJOYS, even if they would be considered too controversial for the public school library to even carry (He's knocked out Lord of the Flies, LOTR and the Hobbit, and Tom Sawyer so far and it's only November!)  He also has time to study fine art, music, and to be involved in our local Boy's and Girl's Club athletics, so that he still gets social time with children his own age. He's thriving and at the rate he is going, he'll be ready to take the ACT by the time he's 14.

So, you folks that think "home school" equates to "religious agenda" must not realize that in SOME states the religious agenda is IN the public schools...where they simply avoid any controversial anti-nationalist agenda parts of history, and skip over the entire concept of evolution because they conveniently "run out of time" ...


That's one of the reasons why, when I have money to move, I'm still going to avoid certain places. I'm a teacher who wants to teach in public schools, but who does not want to be religious at all. I wish you luck, and I hope that you can eventually find a public school that will serve your and your son's needs, without the religion.
 
2013-11-10 07:34:47 PM  
Teresaol31: ....So, you folks that think "home school" equates to "religious agenda" must not realize that in SOME states the religious agenda is IN the public schools...where they simply avoid any controversial anti-nationalist agenda parts of history, and skip over the entire concept of evolution because they conveniently "run out of time" ...

Here we have the other point of view.

/I would have just moved to a more rational place, but hell here I am stuck in Florida. Of course my kids go to good schools.
 
2013-11-10 07:35:44 PM  
I clicked on the link in TFA, and had to check to make sure I didn't travel back in time to when Ron Paul was 80 and our nation was 220.

Please Note: Text Size Changing does not work on older versions of Netscape Navigator.

IF YOU WERE DOING IT ANY MORE WRONG, IT WOULDN'T TECHNICALLY BE CONSIDERED DOING IT ANYMORE.
 
2013-11-10 07:37:09 PM  

Teresaol31: So, you folks that think "home school" equates to "religious agenda"

...

No, in some cases "home schooling" equates to "helicopter parenting"
 
2013-11-10 07:37:34 PM  

you are a puppet: Scoff all you want but I actually took his course on African-American history and learned a lot. They're a very fleet footed people!


Unbelievably so, in fact.

/Lew Rockwell sees what you did there.

dookdookdook: Please Note: Text Size Changing does not work on older versions of Netscape Navigator.


Teh lulz, teh lulz! ^_^
 
2013-11-10 07:37:55 PM  
So, you folks that think "home school" equates to "religious agenda" must not realize that in SOME states the religious agenda is IN the public schools...where they simply avoid any controversial anti-nationalist agenda parts of history, and skip over the entire concept of evolution because they conveniently "run out of time" ...

Where in the heck do you live?
Sounds like homeschooling is a great idea in this case.
 
2013-11-10 07:38:26 PM  

jigger: Doktor_Zhivago: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 780x428]

I'm really curious about creationist chemistry and physics.


http://www.creationtoday.org/physics-evidence/
 
2013-11-10 07:44:28 PM  
 
2013-11-10 07:47:08 PM  
Yeah you can learn "everything" online, but your "teacher" might be a fundie anti-abortion dipshiat who thinks taxation is "theft."

Let's let real teachers teach, k?
 
2013-11-10 07:54:51 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: jigger: Doktor_Zhivago: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 780x428]

I'm really curious about creationist chemistry and physics.

http://www.creationtoday.org/physics-evidence/


Hmmm.

Third, the universe has a boundary, and therefore it must have a center.

QED

I can't imagine how they would butcher chemistry.
 
2013-11-10 07:55:15 PM  
Yes, you can learn a lot online. But without a curriculum, you end up learning about the Kardashians instead of geometry. No one wants to hire some kid who spent his "education" listening to mom or dad rant about socialists,  international bankers, and the illuminati.
 
2013-11-10 07:58:54 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Yes, you can learn a lot online. But without a curriculum, you end up learning about the Kardashians instead of geometry. No one wants to hire some kid who spent his "education" listening to mom or dad rant about socialists,  international bankers, and the illuminati.


2.bp.blogspot.com

You're sure about that?
 
2013-11-10 08:04:27 PM  
Not the Paul boys, but it still applies.

s9.postimg.org
 
2013-11-10 08:05:42 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: jigger: Doktor_Zhivago: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 780x428]

I'm really curious about creationist chemistry and physics.

http://www.creationtoday.org/physics-evidence/


Now I'm scared.
 
2013-11-10 08:06:13 PM  

jigger: I can't imagine how they would butcher chemistry.


Actually chemistry doesn't bother them.

Its like structural or electrical engineering.  It just is.  It doesn't really make statements about the nature of the universe in the way biology or physics do.
 
2013-11-10 08:07:38 PM  
Google is my friend.

http://man-plan-can.blogspot.com/2007/04/creationist-chemistry.html

At first I thought it was serious and I almost shat myself until I saw the reaction scheme.
 
2013-11-10 08:09:25 PM  
In before toothy.
 
2013-11-10 08:09:38 PM  

jigger: Google is my friend.

http://man-plan-can.blogspot.com/2007/04/creationist-chemistry.html

At first I thought it was serious and I almost shat myself until I saw the reaction scheme.


That's not real is it....
bp2.blogger.com
 
2013-11-10 08:14:57 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: jigger: Google is my friend.

http://man-plan-can.blogspot.com/2007/04/creationist-chemistry.html

At first I thought it was serious and I almost shat myself until I saw the reaction scheme.

That's not real is it....
[bp2.blogger.com image 850x173]


The quoted journal doesn't have anything in the archives for Ham or Hovind, so Im betting this is fake, just a quick check though.
 
2013-11-10 08:16:21 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: jigger: I can't imagine how they would butcher chemistry.

Actually chemistry doesn't bother them.

Its like structural or electrical engineering.  It just is.  It doesn't really make statements about the nature of the universe in the way biology or physics do.


The only things I've seen are broad statements about biochemistry proving that life could not possibly have evolved from non-life. They don't really propose any new kinds of Bible based mechanisms the way they do about geology or biology. There's no Flood Geology to explain stratification or Irreducible Complexity to suggest Intelligent Design. At least that I have seen.
 
2013-11-10 08:17:49 PM  

wamser: The quoted journal doesn't have anything in the archives for Ham or Hovind, so Im betting this is fake, just a quick check though.


I checked their citations and they all seemed legit.

"The remainder of the synthesis has been reported previously.8 "

8. Christ, J. H.; Ghost, H.  The Bible 3000 BCEGenesis 1:24.
 
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