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(The New York Times)   Obama gets smart, travels with a portable tent of silence   (nytimes.com) divider line 55
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2013-11-10 09:52:34 AM  
sure sure. rapin' boy scouts is more like it. we know what politicians do.
 
2013-11-10 10:00:30 AM  
Maxwell Smart approves.
 
2013-11-10 10:18:25 AM  
Sorry... what was that Chief?
 
2013-11-10 12:08:42 PM  
FTFA: In accordance with a several-hundred-page classified manual, the rooms are lined with foil and soundproofed.

i.imgur.com

Good advice.
 
2013-11-10 01:01:32 PM  

oldernell: Maxwell Smart approves.


Eddie Adams from Torrance: Sorry... what was that Chief?


I see I'm not needed here.
 
2013-11-10 01:07:28 PM  
No tinfoil hat required to conclude that the Grey Lady is carrying water with this story.  Remember, folks, our heroic top officials must take constant precautions -- tin foil is involved -- because they are targets.  So trust them when they say they need to do whatever it is they are doing to keep us safe.  Also, Feinstein's bill is real reform.
 
2013-11-10 01:23:06 PM  
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2013-11-10 01:26:06 PM  

4tehsnowflakes: No tinfoil hat required to conclude that the Grey Lady is carrying water with this story.  Remember, folks, our heroic top officials must take constant precautions -- tin foil is involved -- because they are targets.  So trust them when they say they need to do whatever it is they are doing to keep us safe.  Also, Feinstein's bill is real reform.


My first thought as well.
 
2013-11-10 01:41:03 PM  
blogs.carouselindustries.com
 
2013-11-10 01:53:11 PM  
It uses Velcro!  It must be from the future.
 
2013-11-10 01:59:09 PM  
Why does need a tent? Everyone knows allied nations would never spy on the US because that's not what friends do!
 
2013-11-10 02:00:04 PM  
When President Obama travels abroad, his staff packs briefing books, gifts for foreign leaders and something more closely associated with camping than diplomacy: a tent.

www.biography.com

Cap'n Crunch did it.
 
2013-11-10 02:23:36 PM  
It's actually where they play parcheesi, nobody wants to be seen playing parcheesi.
 
2013-11-10 02:26:09 PM  
i595.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-10 02:26:42 PM  
Man, and I thought I was the only one who pitched a tent when going to Thailand.
 
2013-11-10 02:29:54 PM  
The dude keeps getting weirder and weirder.
 
2013-11-10 02:30:23 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Man, and I thought I was the only one who pitched a tent when going to Thailand.


galeri3.uludagsozluk.com

LET'S GO CAMPING IN BANGKOK
 
2013-11-10 02:39:45 PM  
fta "We took it for granted that in some of these hotels, no matter the state, that devices were built in there," the official said.

You mean you're scared of that weak and crappy hair dryer hanging on the wall?
 
2013-11-10 02:43:24 PM  
We did this in college and filled out indoor tent with bongs.
 
2013-11-10 02:49:26 PM  
he ducks into the tent to shield himself from secret video cameras and listening devices.

I imagine especially since the Snowden stuff started coming out that the rest of the world's intelligence agencies have pushed trying to spy electronically on the POTUS to the near the top of their To-Do list.

If this was just some guy out in the boonies with a home made tin foil tent I'd write him off as paranoid lunatic.

As it is, it's just pragmatism.
 
2013-11-10 02:56:30 PM  

quatchi: he ducks into the tent to shield himself from secret video cameras and listening devices.

I imagine especially since the Snowden stuff started coming out that the rest of the world's intelligence agencies have pushed trying to spy electronically on the POTUS to the near the top of their To-Do list.

If this was just some guy out in the boonies with a home made tin foil tent I'd write him off as paranoid lunatic.

As it is, it's just pragmatism.


Makes me wonder if I should just drop any privacy issues I might harbor about my personal communications?

/not talking passwords, acct numbers, etc...just the idea of inherent privacy
 
2013-11-10 02:58:26 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: [i595.photobucket.com image 500x329]


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2013-11-10 03:00:00 PM  

Stone Meadow: /not talking passwords, acct numbers, etc...just the idea of inherent privacy


The peculiar misconception of "inherent privacy" is part of the problem.
 
2013-11-10 03:13:30 PM  

Vectron: The dude troll keeps getting weirder and weirder more and more desperate.

 
2013-11-10 03:17:49 PM  
Obama should just learn Mordenkainen's Magical Hut.  Or whatever it's called.
 
2013-11-10 03:17:56 PM  

thamike: Stone Meadow: /not talking passwords, acct numbers, etc...just the idea of inherent privacy

The peculiar misconception of "inherent privacy" is part of the problem.


Agreed, but I was thinking of my own experience growing up in the 60's when privacy was considered...and in a practical sense WAS...inherent. I really do need to get my head around this whole new paradigm without letting it rile me up.
 
2013-11-10 03:25:11 PM  

Stone Meadow: .just the idea of inherent privacy


I pretty much much assume everything I do online or over a phone is non private these days.

Privacy is increasingly a luxury only for those who can afford it or who hold great power.

Think Google Earth blocking Cheney's house or Obama in his tent o' silence.

Most data collection is relatively benign, of course, just looking for clues to be able to micro target ads and such at you which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 
2013-11-10 03:31:17 PM  

gnosis301: Mordenkainen's Magical Hut.


Mansion, I think. And thanks for taking me back a few decades with that.
 
2013-11-10 03:32:55 PM  

quatchi: Stone Meadow: .just the idea of inherent privacy

I pretty much much assume everything I do online or over a phone is non private these days.

Privacy is increasingly a luxury only for those who can afford it or who hold great power.

Think Google Earth blocking Cheney's house or Obama in his tent o' silence.

Most data collection is relatively benign, of course, just looking for clues to be able to micro target ads and such at you which isn't necessarily a bad thing.


You're correct...even though the prescient ads creep me out. :)
 
2013-11-10 03:34:13 PM  
"Enjoy the tent of silence"

~ Depeche mode
 
2013-11-10 03:38:26 PM  

Stone Meadow: thamike: Stone Meadow: /not talking passwords, acct numbers, etc...just the idea of inherent privacy

The peculiar misconception of "inherent privacy" is part of the problem.

Agreed, but I was thinking of my own experience growing up in the 60's when privacy was considered...and in a practical sense WAS...inherent. I really do need to get my head around this whole new paradigm without letting it rile me up.


i'm older than you and it riles the hell out of me. also "homeland security". damn but that strike me as Orwellian. and we both have seen more than enough "we have always been at war with eurasia".
 
2013-11-10 03:47:18 PM  

Curious: Orwellian.


Add that to the Big List of Terms That Have Had All Meaning Screwed Out of Them.
 
2013-11-10 03:48:44 PM  

quatchi: I imagine especially since the Snowden stuff started coming out that the rest of the world's intelligence agencies have pushed trying to spy electronically on the POTUS to the near the top of their To-Do list.


You don't think they weren't trying to spy on him BEFORE?

That's... really, really naive.
 
2013-11-10 03:49:12 PM  
They used to have quiet rooms made of thick glass in embassies where you could talk without being overheard or recorded, but with the size of spy cameras nowadays, that would be as useful as trying to keep a secret from HAL by getting into the HazMat shower and then talking facing the tiny window.

Because keystrokes can be recorded and voice causes windows to vibrate, many sensitive insallations have interior secure rooms with no windows and special insulated walls.

I hope that tent has a floor.
 
2013-11-10 03:51:32 PM  

Curious: Stone Meadow: thamike: Stone Meadow: /not talking passwords, acct numbers, etc...just the idea of inherent privacy

The peculiar misconception of "inherent privacy" is part of the problem.

Agreed, but I was thinking of my own experience growing up in the 60's when privacy was considered...and in a practical sense WAS...inherent. I really do need to get my head around this whole new paradigm without letting it rile me up.

i'm older than you and it riles the hell out of me. also "homeland security". damn but that strike me as Orwellian. and we both have seen more than enough "we have always been at war with eurasia".


Yeah, I understand. Still, growing old is inevitable, but growing ossified is a lifestyle choice. :^)

And yes...I too was hoping we'd seen the end of our endless war with Eurasia. Alas...

/thanks Bush, you dick!
 
2013-11-10 04:03:05 PM  

Stone Meadow: but growing ossified is a lifestyle choice. :^)


just to say i've done something i email the president, my representative and senators. have yet to get that "thanks Curious, hadn't seen it that way" but i do get form email and letters back. that never address the issue i raised, often ask for money (after i've told them to piss up a rope) and in general fail to communicate any understanding at all.

but hey, i did something. and for a while i feel better for that.
 
2013-11-10 04:09:11 PM  
Get Smart reference ... leaving happy.
 
2013-11-10 04:44:42 PM  
The United States has come under withering criticism in recent weeks about revelations that the National Security Agency listened in on allied leaders like Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.

The real issue is a lack of true international representation.

The UN is by and large non-binding, and this is because the US runs it, and China and Russia only chime in when their oil supply is threatened.

But imagine the shiatstorm if we found out Al Qaeda was listening in. We're total power-drunk hypocrites, and apparently being slapped on 9/11 didn't sober us any.
 
2013-11-10 05:11:57 PM  
Felgraf: quatchi: I imagine especially since the Snowden stuff started coming out that the rest of the world's intelligence agencies have pushed trying to spy electronically on the POTUS to the near the top of their To-Do list.

You don't think they weren't trying to spy on him BEFORE?

That's... really, really naive.


Either that or you're reading more into the statement than is there.

Protip: Smart money's on the latter option there.

My point there was that the recent humiliations of the Snowden truth bombs may cause other intelligence agencies both friend and foe to redouble their efforts in this regard not that there were no such efforts previously but thanks for playing.
 
2013-11-10 05:27:58 PM  
So we're finally catching up to Get Smart? I'm going out to get my Obamashoephone.
 
2013-11-10 06:16:24 PM  
Why does Obama need privacy? If he's not doing anything wrong, why would he have anything to hide??!

Particularly inside a Mooslim arab prayer tent??!!
 
2013-11-10 06:33:16 PM  

4tehsnowflakes: No tinfoil hat required to conclude that the Grey Lady is carrying water with this story.  Remember, folks, our heroic top officials must take constant precautions -- tin foil is involved -- because they are targets.  So trust them when they say they need to do whatever it is they are doing to keep us safe.  Also, Feinstein's bill is real reform.


WTF? How is it anything other than pragmatic to take constant precautions against espionage when you're equipping a head of state? Of course top government officials are targets. The US proves that by farking targeting them. You think you need to paint Merkel as a hero to bother trying to keep the NSA off her phone?
 
2013-11-10 08:27:34 PM  

Stone Meadow: Curious: Stone Meadow:    inherent privacy

we both have seen more than enough "we have always been at war with eurasia".

hoping we'd seen the end of our endless war with Eurasia


We are now at war with Eastasia and allied with Eurasia.  All Outer Party members will act accordingly.
 
2013-11-10 08:40:38 PM  

themindiswatching: [blogs.carouselindustries.com image 550x419]


Came here for this.

/What?!
 
2013-11-10 09:28:20 PM  
Considering that anyone with half a brain cell can use a laser pointer as a listening device, who knows what is available to state security services.

Obama's poop is even considered a protected state secret.
 
2013-11-10 09:30:29 PM  
The secure tent has been compromised. I repeat, the tent is compromised! Grab the sat phones and deploy the portable secure coffin. Go go go!
 
2013-11-10 09:35:43 PM  
That's better than Dick Cheney who rather than flying on Air Force 2 would instead spend his time in a secure trailer known as the "silver bullet" which was flown in a C-17 cargo plane.

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2013-11-10 09:43:00 PM  

WTF Indeed: Why does need a tent? Everyone knows allied nations would never spy on the US because that's not what friends do!


Apparently USA does not share that sentiment, they do spy on their friends.

And, thief thinks every man steals.
 
2013-11-10 11:20:17 PM  

HairBolus: That's better than Dick Cheney who rather than flying on Air Force 2 would instead spend his time in a secure trailer known as the "silver bullet" which was flown in a C-17 cargo plane.

[images.nadaguides.com image 300x150]


I picture him watching old reruns of "Mama's Family."
 
2013-11-11 01:09:26 AM  
FTA: it is widely acknowledged that their hosts often have no qualms about snooping on their guests.

So, no different from our own country? Thanks Captain Obvious NY Times
 
2013-11-11 02:30:00 AM  
Mobile SCIF, that must be all sorts of fun to set up.
 
2013-11-11 07:57:15 AM  
Can we put Biden in one of those... forever? :)
 
2013-11-11 09:51:04 AM  

whidbey: HairBolus: That's better than Dick Cheney who rather than flying on Air Force 2 would instead spend his time in a secure trailer known as the "silver bullet" which was flown in a C-17 cargo plane.

[images.nadaguides.com image 300x150]

I picture him watching old reruns of "Mama's Family."


It's been 10 - 15 years ago now, but I recall a minor scandal involving a secure trailer (or "comfort pallet" as the Air Force calls it). It seems that CINC EUR was flying in an AF cargo jet from Europe to the USA with his 'stunningly attractive' executive officer. Shortly after takeoff they disappeared into the trailer, 'used the bed' while crossing the pond, and emerged shortly before landing. He was eventually relieved of command, or suffered some other indignity, and there was yet another round of 'no joining the mile high club' reminders sent around. Good times!
 
2013-11-11 10:42:22 AM  

4tehsnowflakes: No tinfoil hat required to conclude that the Grey Lady is carrying water with this story. Remember, folks, our heroic top officials must take constant precautions -- tin foil is involved -- because they are targets.


I took it to be a defensive position against the NSA scandals. "Hey, Everyone spies on everyone else, We KNOW this. That's why we have these special tents! Didn't we tell you about these special tents we have to use because Everyone spies on us, even allies? It's expected that allies spy on each other, it's just part of doing business, we have to do all kinds of stuff to keep our allies from spying on us, because allies spy on each other, it's normal. That's why we have these tents - because everyone spies."
 
2013-11-11 06:25:53 PM  

finaboy: Can we put Biden in one of those... forever? :)


Didn't that already happen?
 
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