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(Deadspin)   Quarterback pulls off the old "this is the wrong football, we need a new football, nah just kidding it's perfectly fine, my center snapped it to me and now I'm going to run, untouched, into the endzone" play   (deadspin.com ) divider line
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2013-11-10 05:29:52 AM  
I like it.

We had a trick play in H.S. that created a rule change.

After a clock stoppage the offense would go to sideline to talk with coach.  Ten players come back from sideline and get into position while the eleventh would stay near sideline on line of scrimmage as WR.  He'd be left uncovered and wide open for a completion and long gain, if not touchdown.

The league adopted a rule that all eleven players must huddle behind ball spot prior to snap.

The trick play from the linked video is really not that tricky.  The defense was just dumb.
 
2013-11-10 08:16:26 AM  

Frederick: The trick play from the linked video is really not that tricky. The defense was just dumb.


Yeah, the old "wrong ball" play was old when my kid was playing municipal ball.  In my area, all the kids are taught not to fall for it.  I saw one team try it on us, and two of our defenders broke through their flaccid O-line and tackle the QB hard for a 7-yard loss.
 
2013-11-10 09:03:15 AM  
From the comments:

A big fark you to anyone who thinks these plays are "cool" and tricky. If you have to have the sidelines act for you to pull the play off, it's not football anymore, it's a farking prank. We don't let teams hide balls in their jersey, fake injuries, or have players switch jerseys to put your qb in as the punter. This shiat belongs in that category of bush league bull shiat.
A rule to ban this play at the youth levels is absolutely called for.


Well, THAT escalated quickly.
 
2013-11-10 09:07:28 AM  

UNC_Samurai: From the comments:

A big fark you to anyone who thinks these plays are "cool" and tricky. If you have to have the sidelines act for you to pull the play off, it's not football anymore, it's a farking prank. We don't let teams hide balls in their jersey, fake injuries, or have players switch jerseys to put your qb in as the punter. This shiat belongs in that category of bush league bull shiat.
A rule to ban this play at the youth levels is absolutely called for.

Well, THAT escalated quickly.


I wasn't shocked by it.  Fark isn't the only place where you can find the butthurt right out of the gate.
 
2013-11-10 09:12:12 AM  
A few years ago some idiot coach in my nephew's league tried it twice in the same season. It worked the first time apparently. When he had the kid run it in the playoffs, the LBs blasted him before he made it 10feet. He fumbled the ball (he was holding above his head) which was recovered for a TD, and the kid had to be carted off the field with a broken collar bone. Parents of the opposing team were all yelling and cussing at the LBs and nephew's coach for the "dirty hit" to the point I thought a fight was going to break out. It's a dangerous play for the QB if it doesnt work- he's jogging unprotected with his hand in the air exposing his torso, and no one is even slowing down the D players who see a free shot to load up on. Those parents should have went over and punched their own coach.
 
2013-11-10 09:15:50 AM  
They were a little old to be falling for that.
 
2013-11-10 09:34:14 AM  

Relatively Obscure: They were a little old to be falling for that.


Those kids seem to have a whole lot of "slow" in 'em.
 
2013-11-10 10:16:41 AM  

edmo: Relatively Obscure: They were a little old to be falling for that.

Those kids seem to have a whole lot of "slow" in 'em.

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2013-11-10 10:19:59 AM  

dugitman: A few years ago some idiot coach in my nephew's league tried it twice in the same season. It worked the first time apparently. When he had the kid run it in the playoffs, the LBs blasted him before he made it 10feet. He fumbled the ball (he was holding above his head) which was recovered for a TD, and the kid had to be carted off the field with a broken collar bone. Parents of the opposing team were all yelling and cussing at the LBs and nephew's coach for the "dirty hit" to the point I thought a fight was going to break out. It's a dangerous play for the QB if it doesnt work- he's jogging unprotected with his hand in the air exposing his torso, and no one is even slowing down the D players who see a free shot to load up on. Those parents should have went over and punched their own coach.


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2013-11-10 10:31:46 AM  
I hate this farking play. It's embarassing in Pup Warner football when kids are just learning how to even play, let alone run with all the equipment on and it's downright insulting in High School or above. Especially when the defenses are not so much as allowed to move anywhere near the QB when the play is dead.

Imagine this, a defense LB blasts through the line ringing ol' douche QB's bell or worse breaking an arm or a leg.

THAT kid would be made to be a villain NOT the douchetastic coach who called the play, the enabling sideline for egging it on, and finally the dumbass QB who thinks it's a good idea to run a play completely unprotected.
 
2013-11-10 10:32:57 AM  
people take kids sports way too seriously.

news at 11
 
2013-11-10 10:49:52 AM  
The ref/officials should just shout "Play is still live" the moment the QB starts acting like a twat.
That'd kill the asshattery right out of the gate.
 
2013-11-10 10:50:35 AM  

Frederick: I like it.

We had a trick play in H.S. that created a rule change.

After a clock stoppage the offense would go to sideline to talk with coach.  Ten players come back from sideline and get into position while the eleventh would stay near sideline on line of scrimmage as WR.  He'd be left uncovered and wide open for a completion and long gain, if not touchdown.

The league adopted a rule that all eleven players must huddle behind ball spot prior to snap.

The trick play from the linked video is really not that tricky.  The defense was just dumb.


Sounds like one of the "trick" plays the Pats have run in the past. In fact, I think it was when Vinitieri threw for a TD.
 
2013-11-10 11:00:36 AM  
Scientology crap
 
2013-11-10 11:04:41 AM  

Dougie AXP: I hate this farking play. It's embarassing in Pup Warner football when kids are just learning how to even play, let alone run with all the equipment on and it's downright insulting in High School or above. Especially when the defenses are not so much as allowed to move anywhere near the QB when the play is dead.

Imagine this, a defense LB blasts through the line ringing ol' douche QB's bell or worse breaking an arm or a leg.

THAT kid would be made to be a villain NOT the douchetastic coach who called the play, the enabling sideline for egging it on, and finally the dumbass QB who thinks it's a good idea to run a play completely unprotected


I concur. Anything below the high school level and this should be unsportsmanlike conduct. However, if anyone can pull this off at the D-1 college level or NFL, I will be a fan for life.
 
2013-11-10 11:23:17 AM  

gwowen: The ref/officials should just shout "Play is still live" the moment the QB starts acting like a twat.
That'd kill the asshattery right out of the gate.


Yes, that's it. Have the officials act in a manner biased toward the defense.

/dumbass.
 
2013-11-10 11:24:27 AM  
I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB
 
2013-11-10 11:25:20 AM  
"OK son, we're ready to start with your boxing lesson. Now drop your guard."

WHAM!

"First rule: Never drop your guard. Got it?"
 
2013-11-10 11:26:03 AM  
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2013-11-10 11:30:59 AM  

Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.
 
2013-11-10 11:39:29 AM  

Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.


That looks goes to the play after the trick play.
 
2013-11-10 11:40:09 AM  

UNC_Samurai: From the comments:

A big fark you to anyone who thinks these plays are "cool" and tricky. If you have to have the sidelines act for you to pull the play off, it's not football anymore, it's a farking prank. We don't let teams hide balls in their jersey, fake injuries, or have players switch jerseys to put your qb in as the punter. This shiat belongs in that category of bush league bull shiat.
A rule to ban this play at the youth levels is absolutely called for.

Well, THAT escalated quickly.


Aw, hell no.
 
2013-11-10 11:43:08 AM  

Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.


I've seen this one before and it never gets old.  For that, you give the team orange slices after the game but you give the kid who blasted the QB a pizza.
 
2013-11-10 11:43:36 AM  

Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.


Ugh... horrible music in shiatty video, but gotta love the kid that wasnt fooled by that trick.
 
2013-11-10 11:44:53 AM  

Frederick: I like it.

We had a trick play in H.S. that created a rule change.

After a clock stoppage the offense would go to sideline to talk with coach.  Ten players come back from sideline and get into position while the eleventh would stay near sideline on line of scrimmage as WR.  He'd be left uncovered and wide open for a completion and long gain, if not touchdown.

The league adopted a rule that all eleven players must huddle behind ball spot prior to snap.

The trick play from the linked video is really not that tricky.  The defense was just dumb.


We had a play like that also which we ran right after kickoff/punt returns. With everyone subbing out, have one guy act like he's going off the field but he's still an active WR. It "worked" in that most of the time the WR would make it down field uncovered, but failed in that he either never caught the ball or our QB was sacked before he could air it out.

/0-9
 
2013-11-10 11:46:17 AM  

dugitman: A few years ago some idiot coach in my nephew's league tried it twice in the same season. It worked the first time apparently. When he had the kid run it in the playoffs, the LBs blasted him before he made it 10feet. He fumbled the ball (he was holding above his head) which was recovered for a TD, and the kid had to be carted off the field with a broken collar bone. Parents of the opposing team were all yelling and cussing at the LBs and nephew's coach for the "dirty hit" to the point I thought a fight was going to break out. It's a dangerous play for the QB if it doesnt work- he's jogging unprotected with his hand in the air exposing his torso, and no one is even slowing down the D players who see a free shot to load up on. Those parents should have went over and punched their own coach.


That's why trick plays are used rarely and only after enough time has passed for almost everyone to forget about it. To use the same one twice in one season is moronic. You can pull two trick plays in one season but not the same one. Then those two plays need to be retired for a while.
 
2013-11-10 12:13:05 PM  
The annexation of Puerto Rico?
 
2013-11-10 12:19:15 PM  
The top voted comment in the video points out that the play was illegal and the offense should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike comment.
 
2013-11-10 12:19:53 PM  
COMMENT?!?!?  COMMENT?!?!?!  FARK YOU, AUTOCORRECT, IT WAS UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT!!!
 
2013-11-10 12:22:31 PM  

Dinobot: Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.

Ugh... horrible music in shiatty video, but gotta love the kid that wasnt fooled by that trick.


i really should have warned people to mute that shiat. that is some godawful music
 
2013-11-10 12:45:23 PM  

Kid the Universe: Dinobot: Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.

Ugh... horrible music in shiatty video, but gotta love the kid that wasnt fooled by that trick.

i really should have warned people to mute that shiat. that is some godawful music


And wtf are you using t-34 for? The trick play fail is at the start of the video, not 34 seconds later.
 
2013-11-10 02:03:05 PM  

Kuta: And wtf are you using t-34 for? The trick play fail is at the start of the video, not 34 seconds later.


Well, he used to bullseye QBs back in his T-34 back home.  That must have been the confusion.

/ not bigger than two meters
 
2013-11-10 02:06:25 PM  

Frederick: I like it.

We had a trick play in H.S. that created a rule change.

After a clock stoppage the offense would go to sideline to talk with coach.  Ten players come back from sideline and get into position while the eleventh would stay near sideline on line of scrimmage as WR.  He'd be left uncovered and wide open for a completion and long gain, if not touchdown.

The league adopted a rule that all eleven players must huddle behind ball spot prior to snap.

The trick play from the linked video is really not that tricky.  The defense was just dumb.


So....no using a no-huddle offense?
 
2013-11-10 02:08:06 PM  
Meh, it is an accepted move according to the rules, but that still doesn't make it sporting. If the QB can call an error on the field (wrong ball), then play should be stopped.

But "should" and "are" are two different things.
 
2013-11-10 02:16:51 PM  

gwowen: The ref/officials should just shout "Play is still live" the moment the QB starts acting like a twat.
That'd kill the asshattery right out of the gate.


So the play is live pretty much from the cradle onward?
 
2013-11-10 03:07:15 PM  

Dinobot: Kid the Universe: Dinobot: I'd love to see videos of this trick failing bigtime -- like a LB or something steamrolling the QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQbAP-K28J8#t=34

made me feel bad for the dumbass

i think the play is completely unsportsmanlike.

Ugh... horrible music in shiatty video, but gotta love the kid that wasnt fooled by that trick.


AND it was linked 10 seconds too late.  Poor effort F-
 
2013-11-10 03:17:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: gwowen: The ref/officials should just shout "Play is still live" the moment the QB starts acting like a twat.
That'd kill the asshattery right out of the gate.

Yes, that's it. Have the officials act in a manner biased toward the defense.


You're just keeping both sides aware informed of the game situation.  Personal foul penalties that can occur for contact in a dead ball situation, and the offense are taken advantage of uncertainty over whether that applies.  Let the defenders know they can hit the QB, and the QB will stop being an ass.

It's no more "biased to the defense" than declaring before the play who is-and-is-not an eligible receiver.
 
2013-11-10 03:19:20 PM  
(Incidentally, what the hell constitutes the "wrong ball", and why would the QB supposedly be able to identify it?  Presumably, all the balls available are regulation balls. Why would one be the "wrong one".)
 
2013-11-10 03:32:52 PM  
If you need to rely on lame tricks like this, you suck as a coach.
 
2013-11-10 03:36:09 PM  

gwowen: (Incidentally, what the hell constitutes the "wrong ball", and why would the QB supposedly be able to identify it?  Presumably, all the balls available are regulation balls. Why would one be the "wrong one".)


Usually the visiting team in football brings their own game balls.  Even though they are all regulation size they might have been made by a different company and therfore be slightly different in color or some other things.  I worked 1-a football for a few years in college and each team had their logos on the ball so depending on who had possession the ball boys would just recycle those through. But your right, this seems a little extreme for JV in high school.
 
2013-11-10 04:04:28 PM  

themunsterfullback: gwowen: (Incidentally, what the hell constitutes the "wrong ball", and why would the QB supposedly be able to identify it?  Presumably, all the balls available are regulation balls. Why would one be the "wrong one".)

Usually the visiting team in football brings their own game balls.  Even though they are all regulation size they might have been made by a different company and therfore be slightly different in color or some other things.  I worked 1-a football for a few years in college and each team had their logos on the ball so depending on who had possession the ball boys would just recycle those through. But your right, this seems a little extreme for JV in high school.



Thanks. I referee rugby, and we have maybe 2 or 3 match balls, and they're only changed if one travels so far out of bounds that there'd be a delay for someone to geo fetch it. Teams sometimes write their name on balls, but that's just to identify which ones they need to take away at the end... :)
 
2013-11-10 04:18:09 PM  
Sadly, there's so much routine in football that most of the players cannot think beyond that.  This play really taps into that issue.  Here's my CSB example from college.

I was on the soccer team and we used to practice right next to the football team.  One day, the football coach decides to change things up a little, and informs the players they're going to "break" but with no clap.  So the coach yells, "break" and the entire team claps.  So he makes the players do 20 push-ups, then huddles up with them again.

He again tells them they're going to "break" with no clap.  So, again he yells "break" and over half the team claps.  20 push-ups again.  This cycle continued for the next 15 minutes before he was actually able to get them to not clap.  I think we counted 8 or 9 totally rounds of it.  The players had a really really hard time with those push-ups after the 3rd or 4th round.

We stopped our soccer practice just to watch it all.  It was ... something.
 
2013-11-10 04:19:34 PM  

Satan's Chocolate Starfish: If you need to rely on lame tricks like this, you suck as a coach.


Says the coach who just watched his team get burned by said trick.
 
2013-11-10 04:19:43 PM  

Frederick: I like it.

We had a trick play in H.S. that created a rule change.

After a clock stoppage the offense would go to sideline to talk with coach.  Ten players come back from sideline and get into position while the eleventh would stay near sideline on line of scrimmage as WR.  He'd be left uncovered and wide open for a completion and long gain, if not touchdown.

The league adopted a rule that all eleven players must huddle behind ball spot prior to snap.


I don't think that there's anything particularly new about the sleeper play, so it's surprising that there already wasn't a rule.  Fun fact:  The CFL's Calgary Stampeders used this play in the 1948 Grey Cup to score a touchdown, winning the game 12-7, capping off a perfect season.  The play was outlawed in 1951.
 
2013-11-10 04:27:47 PM  

Satan's Chocolate Starfish: If you need to rely on lame tricks like this, you suck as a coach.


To be fair, "need to rely on" and "use" are different things.
 
2013-11-10 04:40:09 PM  
Misdirection, end-round reverse, Statue of Liberty, etc.? All trick plays, designed to fool the defense. Should we ban them, too?
 
2013-11-10 04:51:13 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Satan's Chocolate Starfish: If you need to rely on lame tricks like this, you suck as a coach.

To be fair, "need to rely on" and "use" are different things.


It's pretty lame to pull that play on kids. Wanna give it a go at the college level? Be my guess. But doing a trick based on an appeal to the officials (as opposed to a legitimate offensive scheme) at the JV level is kind of sad.
 
2013-11-10 05:23:51 PM  

Blink: Sadly, there's so much routine in football that most of the players cannot think beyond that. This play really taps into that issue. Here's my CSB example from college.


You ought to test the patience of offensive linemen.  If they so much as twitch before hearing the proper snap count they're put through hell.  Someone could crash a car into the uprights and if they get out of their stance to try to help anyone inside or even react the coach would probably make them do laps.
 
2013-11-10 06:05:48 PM  

dragonchild: Kuta: And wtf are you using t-34 for? The trick play fail is at the start of the video, not 34 seconds later.

Well, he used to bullseye QBs back in his T-34 back home.  That must have been the confusion.

/ not bigger than two meters


Luke's airspeeder was a T-16.  His landspeeder he sold for money to pay Han Solo was an X-34.  The T-34 was the Soviet tank that won the Great Patriotic War.
 
2013-11-10 06:11:26 PM  
Does this violate the Warrior's Code?
 
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