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(Deseret News)   Senator Mike Lee, who was one of the main architects of the government shutdown, says it's time for the Republican Party to stop being "the party of no"   (deseretnews.com ) divider line
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2013-11-10 09:12:37 AM  
the GOP is the party of "we know who our Owners are and we serve only them".     The People are not a factor.   Democracy they call it.  and Freedom.
 
2013-11-10 09:13:41 AM  
mike lee even looks the part.  Full. Of. Sh*t.
 
2013-11-10 09:14:02 AM  
he said without offering any actual specific policies that they are "for"
 
2013-11-10 09:15:04 AM  
Sarah Palin 'we're the party of Hell No' will be cross with him.
 
2013-11-10 09:18:09 AM  
Where did Mike Lee get sent to?
 
2013-11-10 09:19:41 AM  
Sent.?
 
2013-11-10 09:23:43 AM  
Just words. Let me know when he backs it up with action!
 
2013-11-10 09:30:01 AM  
RINO!
 
2013-11-10 09:30:13 AM  

Boxcutta: Sent.?


Sentient, finally.
 
2013-11-10 09:33:37 AM  

Lost Thought 00: he said without offering any actual specific policies that they are "for"


Whad'ya mean?

The GOP is FOR sending brown people back to Mexico.

The GOP is FOR overturning the ACA.

The GOP is FOR obstructing Obama filling hundreds of court vacancies.

The GOP is FOR denying blacks the right to vote.

The GOP is FOR keeping women barefoot and pregnant.

The GOP is FOR shifting the tax burden from the wealthy to the working poor.

Sheesh...that was easy! :^)
 
2013-11-10 09:40:48 AM  
FTFA: Lee ...the keynote speaker at the Iowa Faith & Freedom Coalition's annual Friends of the Family banquet to raise money for the organization intended to bring together tea party and evangelical conservatives.


Yeah, he sounds like a real breath-of-fresh-air, not-your-grandpa's-typical-Republican, all right. A real game-changer.

Also, the photo of him in TFA fairly cries out for a "Whar pudding? Whar?!" caption.
 
2013-11-10 09:42:49 AM  
His poll numbers must be going south.
 
2013-11-10 09:49:15 AM  
Well of course he said that. He said it on the 6th, that's an even day. Today is the 10th, also an even day, so it's true again today.

Tomorrow though? The 11th? That's an odd day, so it will not be true then and we should probably block any and all Democrat activities at any cost. Those are the rules of the odd days.

Pay attention for Christ's sake. Republican politics is as easy as parking on the correct side of the street.
 
2013-11-10 09:51:53 AM  
We'll see what talk he's walking in January...
 
2013-11-10 09:53:16 AM  
To switch from the party of "No" to the party of "Probably Not"
 
2013-11-10 09:54:34 AM  

edmo: We'll see what talk he's walking in January...


NOBONGO FORCED OUR HAND, YET AGAIN!!#!#!@!
 
2013-11-10 10:05:16 AM  

born_yesterday: edmo: We'll see what talk he's walking in January...

NOBONGO FORCED OUR HAND, YET AGAIN!!#!#!@!


Why won't he lead???
 
2013-11-10 10:09:43 AM  
Twist:  From Party of No to Party of No Farking Way, Fartbongo
 
2013-11-10 10:10:10 AM  

edmo: We'll see what talk he's walking in January...


The streets, if there's any justice.
 
2013-11-10 10:11:20 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Also, the photo of him in TFA fairly cries out for a "Whar pudding? Whar?!" caption.


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2013-11-10 10:17:03 AM  
Yeah, the guy got positively reamed by his constituents for pushing the shutdown.  Turns out that when a large portion of your state's economy is based on welcoming visitors to national parks - and in some rural areas of Utah collecting money from tourists is pretty much the only availabe gig - the people don't react entirely positively when your actions end up closing the park gates and emptying out the hotels, restaurants, and outfitters' shops.
 
2013-11-10 10:21:17 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: Twist:  From Party of No to Party of No Farking Way, Fartbongo


Hey SA, mind if I steal that? (Or was it already stolen?)
 
2013-11-10 10:24:43 AM  
They stopped being the Party of No long ago.  They've been the Party of F**k You ever since.
 
2013-11-10 10:33:33 AM  
When even John McCain says that you've gone too far (the government shutdown), you know you've gone too far.
 
2013-11-10 10:36:42 AM  

Robo Beat: Yeah, the guy got positively reamed by his constituents for pushing the shutdown.  Turns out that when a large portion of your state's economy is based on welcoming visitors to national parks - and in some rural areas of Utah collecting money from tourists is pretty much the only availabe gig - the people don't react entirely positively when your actions end up closing the park gates and emptying out the hotels, restaurants, and outfitters' shops.


Have you ever played chess with a guy and checkmated him in four moves?  Mike Lee IS that guy.
 
2013-11-10 10:38:54 AM  
Translation: They threatened to take away my campaigning funds if I didn't say this...
 
2013-11-10 10:45:05 AM  
hey, look, another republican who thinks their problems boil down to messaging. wow. that's something new and different.

lose, declare victory, say 'we need to improve messaging'...this shiat is getting to be groundhog-day-esque.
 
2013-11-10 10:45:47 AM  

SoupJohnB: Shrugging Atlas: Twist:  From Party of No to Party of No Farking Way, Fartbongo

Hey SA, mind if I steal that? (Or was it already stolen?)


Just Rand Paul it.
 
2013-11-10 10:46:49 AM  

Stone Meadow: The GOP is FOR sending brown people back to Mexico.


The Plutocrat Party is FOR keeping brown people here in illegal status.  Cheap labor and all that, just as long as they bust a few to shake them down.
 
2013-11-10 10:48:32 AM  
It's a Trap!
 
2013-11-10 10:50:17 AM  
I'll settle for the GOP stop being the party of
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"BLAAAAAAHGGKPPGPBPBPBPBPBBPBPBBPBPBPTTTTRAAAAAAGGGHHHH!"
 
2013-11-10 10:54:13 AM  
They're not even the "Party of No".

"No" implies there's an argument, a dialogue, a logically-structured framework supporting a position, or even a common language.

The GOP is the "Party of He's Black".
 
2013-11-10 10:55:02 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Stone Meadow: The GOP is FOR sending brown people back to Mexico.

The Plutocrat Party is FOR keeping brown people here in illegal status.  Cheap labor and all that, just as long as they bust a few to shake them down.


Big business wanting easy access to cheap labor is the one GOP bright spot (if that's what one calls it...) on the immigration front, but even that is not enough to take action, since "if he's fer it, the Teatards are again' it!"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/11/07/immigrat io n-reform-is-dead-for-the-year-top-gop-reformer-says/
 
2013-11-10 11:06:53 AM  
I think of them more as the Party of sitting around the house all day eating bon-bons and watching soap operas.
 
2013-11-10 11:15:07 AM  
Most people get over saying 'no' as their primary expression of power around 2 or 3 years of age.
 
2013-11-10 11:18:31 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: I think of them more as the Party of sitting around the house all day eating bon-bons and watching soap operas.


The Peg Bundy of political parties.

Peg: What's that toilet got that I don't have?
Al:  A Job.
 
2013-11-10 11:35:46 AM  
He won a seat on the Board of the Houston Community College, not the mayorship. That said, I wonder what he has to do to collect his paycheck? If it involves showing up in the district where he won and making his identity known, he may not get the opportunity to make a second appearance. If he blows the whole thing off, there's probably a lawsuit in the future for him. And he certainly won't be reelected in any case. In the final analysis, just another example of repub willingness to lie and cheat, not merely to get what they want, but for the pure pleasure of farking people over.
 
2013-11-10 11:37:04 AM  
Oops, wrong thread!
 
2013-11-10 11:37:07 AM  
They've really moved from being the party of No, to the Party of Nurgle.   Just look at this picture of Chris Christie:

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I'd be a lot happier if either 1) 40k fluff became a less appropriate lens through which to view US politics or 2) The Emperor of Mankind would hurry up and make himself known.   The evangelicals have their rapture... Me... I'm waiting for the unification wars.
 
2013-11-10 11:51:36 AM  
Tea party, Lee said, is a term used "to suggest that it's a party, or as if to suggest that it's a monolithic organization, or that it's an organization at all. It isn't. It's a reference to the conservative movement."

now that is some grade A bullshiat. the local tea party groups would be seriously offended if you told them they were just conservative republicans. and if you did that at one of their regularly scheduled meetings as well.
 
2013-11-10 11:53:37 AM  

clambam: Oops, wrong thread!


At least I got to have a huge "WTF?!?" moment in my head. Thanks for that.
 
2013-11-10 12:07:59 PM  
Beyond being against everything, including all things in the future, what has the GOP been for that will move the country forward?

They are against science that is not in the Bible.
They are against math that is not in the Bible - pi is exactly 3 or you hate God.
They are against any thought that does not absolutely conform to their absolute version of morality.

Conservatives are evil things.
 
2013-11-10 12:23:26 PM  
Some of the Senator's financial backers in Utah have stated that they will not support his reelection and will, in fact, work against him. Sen. Lee's polling in Utah shows 51% with an unfavorable opinion of him.
 
2013-11-10 12:27:55 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: Beyond being against everything, including all things in the future, what has the GOP been for that will move the country forward?

They are against science that is not in the Bible.
They are against math that is not in the Bible - pi is exactly 3 or you hate God.
They are against any thought that does not absolutely conform to their absolute version of morality.

Conservatives are evil things.


"The country"? The very thought of "country" risks communal and/or socialist thought. That's why the GOP pushes individualism and bootstraps. You're on your own! T'helll with "country", you're out to get yours. The GOP does not exist to build or create. The whole point of the GOP is dismantle and eliminate. Moving "the country" forward is not part of the conversation. Creating an environment where the individual sinks or swims, without help from anyone else, is the goal. If you were stupid enough to not choose rich parents, well that's your fault. Bend over and grab those bootstraps.
 
2013-11-10 12:31:35 PM  
I still couldn't believe my ears when I heard this little farkwit come on KSL radio here in Salt Lake and proclaim " I never wanted to shut down the government".
 
2013-11-10 12:34:54 PM  

red5ish: Some of the Senator's financial backers in Utah have stated that they will not support his reelection and will, in fact, work against him. Sen. Lee's polling in Utah shows 51% with an unfavorable opinion of him.


Somewhere in Salt Lake City, Utah, a man by the name of Robert Bennett is learning how to properly pronounce the word "schadenfreude".
 
2013-11-10 01:23:07 PM  

Notabunny: rosebud_the_sled: Beyond being against everything, including all things in the future, what has the GOP been for that will move the country forward?

They are against science that is not in the Bible.
They are against math that is not in the Bible - pi is exactly 3 or you hate God.
They are against any thought that does not absolutely conform to their absolute version of morality.

Conservatives are evil things.

"The country"? The very thought of "country" risks communal and/or socialist thought. That's why the GOP pushes individualism and bootstraps. You're on your own! T'helll with "country", you're out to get yours. The GOP does not exist to build or create. The whole point of the GOP is dismantle and eliminate. Moving "the country" forward is not part of the conversation. Creating an environment where the individual sinks or swims, without help from anyone else, is the goal. If you were stupid enough to not choose rich parents, well that's your fault. Bend over and grab those bootstraps.


There are two parts of the Republican party.  One part is the objectivist side, which you describe.  The other part is the authoritarian side.  This is where the "country" and supporting "True Americans" comes into play.  Objectivists can't win an election without the authoritarians, so they'll always pay lip service to that stuff.  For an objectivist, it's better to have some power, even if it's not ideologically pure, than to be ideologically pure with no power.   It's a means to an end.  And based on actual GOP policy, they can still talk about being true amurricuns, while implementing social darwinism.

As for the original topic, Republicans won't positively support anything, because those ideas are unpopular.  They can draw in enough people by scaring them into believing they're constantly under siege from outsiders.  That's what being the party of no is really about, and it's not something that's going to change.  To actively support something unpopular won't gain them any new followers, and will only lose them.
 
2013-11-10 01:23:49 PM  

Notabunny: rosebud_the_sled: Beyond being against everything, including all things in the future, what has the GOP been for that will move the country forward?

They are against science that is not in the Bible.
They are against math that is not in the Bible - pi is exactly 3 or you hate God.
They are against any thought that does not absolutely conform to their absolute version of morality.

Conservatives are evil things.

"The country"? The very thought of "country" risks communal and/or socialist thought. That's why the GOP pushes individualism and bootstraps. You're on your own! T'helll with "country", you're out to get yours. The GOP does not exist to build or create. The whole point of the GOP is dismantle and eliminate. Moving "the country" forward is not part of the conversation. Creating an environment where the individual sinks or swims, without help from anyone else, is the goal. If you were stupid enough to not choose rich parents, well that's your fault. Bend over and grab those bootstraps.


Only if you're talking about other countries, like Sweden or France.  The USA is special because if we weren't God never would have told us how to keep women, negroes, and papists in their rightful place, and Jesus wouldn't have been caught dead making flapjacks for the boys stuck in the Ardennes forest during the Battle of the Bulge, and don't tread on me and these colors don't run and furthermore.
 
2013-11-10 01:24:59 PM  

MountainClimber: I still couldn't believe my ears when I heard this little farkwit come on KSL radio here in Salt Lake and proclaim " I never wanted to shut down the government".


Our local congressman did the same thing. Now granted, he wasn't a major player in the shut-down or slim-down or Obama-down or whatever we're calling it. But he voted party line all the way, and never said a word against what was going on.

Now it's a different story, of course. He was never for the shut-down. He was pressured into making his votes and keeping his mouth shut. It was someone's - anyone's - fault but his.

It's no longer a joke: if you're a Republican in 2013 there's something wrong with you.
 
2013-11-10 01:43:27 PM  
While Lee said he continues to stand behind his effort to stop Obamacare, now it's important for him to "help guide the political debate and discussion" to determine "how best the Republican Party can position itself for victories in 2014 and 2016 and beyond."

The government shutdown promoted by this prick cost the US economy around $24 billion. How does he propose to make up for this incredibly irresponsible and costly mistake? By "positioning".
 
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