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2013-11-10 01:16:59 AM  
hmm . military applications ?
 
2013-11-10 01:51:58 AM  
wtf?
 
2013-11-10 02:03:04 AM  
Heinlein and Niven thought they pushing the limits of credulity when they included things like this "only" 200 or 300 years in the future. There's a reason nobody writes "hard sci-fi" any more; it's getting harder and harder to even imagine a device that might not show up in the toy aisle of the nearest big box store before your manuscript even gets read by a publisher. And that's... kinda cool, actually!
 
2013-11-10 05:06:23 AM  
These would be rather cool enemies in a big budget movie.
 
2013-11-10 07:12:03 AM  
No CGI?  bullshiat

i47.photobucket.com

pretty much everything after the revolving door is suspect

i so wanted to believe
 
2013-11-10 07:35:03 AM  

sithon: hmm . military applications ?


No, no, no, no.
I'm certainly positive nobody has thought of that yet.
 
2013-11-10 07:54:12 AM  

sithon: hmm . military applications ?


Drive by wire automated car applications
 
2013-11-10 08:17:56 AM  
I'm usually pretty meh on drone stuff but this....golf clap to the hours of trial and error all of that coding and building must have taken.

And yes, given their control system (IR emitters looking for reflections to tell each bot where it is in space), that end scene doesn't meet the limits of credulity.

/still pretty nifty
//still working on my "drone killer" drone
 
2013-11-10 08:18:50 AM  
///still working on my proofreading and spelling as well

/doh
 
2013-11-10 08:27:40 AM  
And of course....


www.jeffbots.com

/hot like an 80s movie
 
2013-11-10 09:51:12 AM  

bulldg4life: sithon: hmm . military applications ?

Drive by wire automated car applications


Bingo! Algorithmic flocking behavior has obvious applications to 'smart car' technologies that will appear in automobiles while Hillary is President. In fact, one could say that finally they will be 'automobiles'...Home, James!
 
2013-11-10 10:54:22 AM  

sithon: hmm . military applications ?


For these mini-bots? Only indoors, or somewhere that doesn't have any wind whatsoever. And by "military applications," you probably couldn't mount anything heavier than a GoPro on them (which is still useful).

Now, a larger, heavier, more powerful version of these? They have tons of military applications. They also aren't much different than the dozens of other RPA prototypes that military contractors show every year.
 
2013-11-10 11:30:36 AM  

MisterTweak: Heinlein and Niven thought they pushing the limits of credulity when they included things like this "only" 200 or 300 years in the future. There's a reason nobody writes "hard sci-fi" any more; it's getting harder and harder to even imagine a device that might not show up in the toy aisle of the nearest big box store before your manuscript even gets read by a publisher. And that's... kinda cool, actually!


I thin the reason so few people write hard sci fi is because of the lack of imagination in the readers. Look at the fiWeeners in this thread. What a threadshiat. I would hate myself if I was a sci fi writer, everyday spent facing fans with no imagination and no chance of comprehending what socipolitical change could occur with technology and new science theories. Instead, it would be a life of talking to grunting dudes who use the old G. I. Joe cartoon as their template for scientific advancement.
 
2013-11-10 11:43:58 AM  
Circuit du Soleil
 
2013-11-10 11:52:16 AM  

Sasquach: And of course....


[www.jeffbots.com image 550x367]

/hot like an 80s movie


What movie is that? I remember seeing it when i was a kid, but i can't remember the name, now.
 
2013-11-10 12:38:00 PM  

Smoking GNU: Sasquach: And of course....


[www.jeffbots.com image 550x367]

/hot like an 80s movie

What movie is that? I remember seeing it when i was a kid, but i can't remember the name, now.


"*batteries not included"
 
2013-11-10 12:44:10 PM  
Locusts in the soil.
 
2013-11-10 12:48:01 PM  
Two words to fix this whole problem: Pulse Generator.
 
2013-11-10 12:49:07 PM  

American Decency Association: No CGI?  bullshiat

[i47.photobucket.com image 850x317]

pretty much everything after the revolving door is suspect

i so wanted to believe


If not technically CGI( because the drone(s) exist), then compositing. Did you ever see that video where they film one guy repeatedly storming a beach then put all of the takes together so he looks like an invading army? I'm betting the final swarm scene (at least) was done something like that.
 
2013-11-10 01:03:08 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Two words to fix this whole problem: Pulse Generator.


I thought we couldn't generate a sufficient EMP without a nuclear blast.
 
2013-11-10 01:18:33 PM  
We should add weapons and given them poorly thought out instructions on when to use those weapons.
 
2013-11-10 01:44:01 PM  
MisterTweak: There's a reason nobody writes "hard sci-fi" any more; it's getting harder and harder to even imagine a device that might not show up in the toy aisle of the nearest big box store before your manuscript even gets read by a publisher.

The actual problem is a bit more interesting, in fact: It's not hard to imagine technology that's considerably more futuristic. The problem lies in (A) trying to imagine how that technology would change culture, and (B) trying to imagine how to write a story about it that would make any damned sense.

Hence Vinge's "Singularity". It's basically impossible to write a plausible hard SF story about anything beyond the very near future. (I know some people want to argue this, but what I mean is that you can write a hard far-future story about a few futuristic concepts, but it's insanely hard to write one that has enough futuristic concepts for that setting.)

Pulp SF, though, is much easier. Well, in print. TV and film tend to be about 30 years behind the times, at best.
 
2013-11-10 01:45:13 PM  
ajgeek: I thought we couldn't generate a sufficient EMP without a nuclear blast.

It mostly depends on the range and intensity you need, and I wouldn't google it unless you want to end up on a few more government lists. But, no, an nuclear blast is definitely not required.
 
2013-11-10 04:59:31 PM  

clkeagle: sithon: hmm . military applications ?

For these mini-bots? Only indoors, or somewhere that doesn't have any wind whatsoever. And by "military applications," you probably couldn't mount anything heavier than a GoPro on them (which is still useful).

Now, a larger, heavier, more powerful version of these? They have tons of military applications. They also aren't much different than the dozens of other RPA prototypes that military contractors show every year.


It would still have to be electric powered as there is still too much of a ramp up time involved with an IC type of engine for the quadracopter concept to work. So they'll always be limited to the size and efficiancy of the motor and the battery technology to run them .


Also.. If I may.. bunny trail here.. I'm getting a little ticked off at the media trowing the term DRONE at Radio controlled devices in general.. I understand that these little guys are more suited to the modern definition, and I know that the term comes from remotlely operated target aircraft.

but, just because someone purchased, or built an radio controlled airplane or helicopter does not mean it is a "drone"
 
2013-11-10 10:58:39 PM  

RandomAxe: ajgeek: I thought we couldn't generate a sufficient EMP without a nuclear blast.

It mostly depends on the range and intensity you need, and I wouldn't google it unless you want to end up on a few more government lists. But, no, an nuclear blast is definitely not required.


Highly charged coil, implosion-type device to compress the field using explosives, you get a relatively huge magnetic pulse, but of course you can't use the device more than once and it makes a huge "bang" that will definitely be noticed even if the power outage isn't.

Not gonna go into more detail than that, lest some idiot try it for himself.
 
2013-11-10 11:03:49 PM  

RandomAxe: Hence Vinge's "Singularity". It's basically impossible to write a plausible hard SF story about anything beyond the very near future. (I know some people want to argue this, but what I mean is that you can write a hard far-future story about a few futuristic concepts, but it's insanely hard to write one that has enough futuristic concepts for that setting.)


There is a counter-argument. You posit that technological development will not continue at an accelerating pace beyond the near future, because reasons. The genre is, after all, speculative fiction, and what's more speculative than imagining a new dark age or at the least a developmental plateau? Not all SF has to be utopian with regard to the march of science.

Of course, lots of bad writers do this without realizing it, dropping tech that's 5 minutes from now into a distant future setting without laying the necessary groundwork as to why the setting is stuck with barely futuristic tech.
 
2013-11-11 01:43:38 AM  
And they're glad to be here!

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2013-11-11 09:13:10 AM  

American Decency Association: No CGI?  bullshiat
[i47.photobucket.com image 850x317]
pretty much everything after the revolving door is suspect
i so wanted to believe


You're right. A correction on the original article (the one that giz ripped off) reads:

We asked the KMel guys for clarification and they were also wondering why we said that everything is real (they never said that). "There is CG in the commercial," they said, "but we won't tell you what's real and what's not." Guess we'll have to guess. :) We apologize for the mistake.

 
2013-11-11 02:42:05 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Two words to fix this whole problem: Pulse Generator.


Don't you mean Five words? Explosively Pumped Flux Compression Generator?
One of those nifty non-nuclear ways to make a directional EMP for extremely low cost.
 
2013-11-11 03:38:24 PM  

jjorsett: American Decency Association: No CGI?  bullshiat

[i47.photobucket.com image 850x317]

pretty much everything after the revolving door is suspect

i so wanted to believe

If not technically CGI( because the drone(s) exist), then compositing. Did you ever see that video where they film one guy repeatedly storming a beach then put all of the takes together so he looks like an invading army? I'm betting the final swarm scene (at least) was done something like that.


THIS.
 
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