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(Huffington Post)   Virginia Republicans decide to change election rules AFTER the election to help them win. North Korea looks on and says, "You can do that?"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 111
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2013-11-09 11:28:38 PM  
It's a mandate!
 
2013-11-09 11:30:26 PM  
Florida tried that once. It worked out poorly.
 
2013-11-09 11:35:38 PM  

Nabb1: Florida tried that once. It worked out poorly.


Did they? How odd, they seem like such a rational state.
 
2013-11-09 11:40:24 PM  
Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.
 
2013-11-09 11:50:42 PM  

2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.


Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.
 
2013-11-09 11:52:43 PM  

SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.


Food for thought - if they secede and become a separate state, they get two Senators.
 
2013-11-10 12:07:26 AM  

SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.


They could call themselves "Real Virginia" like Real Madrid.
 
2013-11-10 12:31:46 AM  
A republican legislator body attempt to "legally cheat" when it comes to elections and the "liberal media" NOT giving a shiat?

What, is this a day that ends in y?
 
2013-11-10 12:32:30 AM  
ftfa: According to a report by WTOP radio, the Virginia State Board of Elections decided Friday to change rules relevant to Fairfax County, banning legal representatives from helping count votes, unless the associated voter was actually present.

My pissed off face. Let me show it to you...

>.<

The board changing the rules is dominated by Republicans.

-_-
 
2013-11-10 12:35:12 AM  

Nabb1: SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.

Food for thought - if they secede and become a separate state, they get two Senators.


Isn't there something about provisional draft picks or something?
 
2013-11-10 12:35:37 AM  
Do blah people still get to vote there? Because that might be their problem.
 
2013-11-10 12:38:34 AM  
Those freedom lovers sure have a problem with democracy.
 
2013-11-10 12:39:52 AM  
Remember kids, Democracy means that you don't have to listen when a majority of people agree on something.
 
2013-11-10 12:41:08 AM  

Notabunny: Do blah people still get to vote there? Because that might be their problem.


Women vote there, and they really lost them.
 
2013-11-10 12:45:53 AM  
Typical. Honest Republicans try to stomp out Democratic election fraud, and you guys get all pissy about it.
 
2013-11-10 12:54:59 AM  
They could at least pretend to not be dicks.
 
2013-11-10 12:58:33 AM  
I'm shocked that people would imply that the GOP would try to rig an election

/just come out and say it.
 
2013-11-10 01:01:46 AM  
Swallow's Third Law: "The Republican Party fears nothing more than an honest count."
 
2013-11-10 01:05:38 AM  
could somebody explain the article to me because i read it twice and i honestly dont understand whats happening
 
2013-11-10 01:07:32 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Swallow's Third Law: "The Republican Party fears nothing more than an honest count."


I fixed that for you... "The candidate leading the election fears nothing more than an honest count."

See the Al Franken election or the governor race in Washington state a few years back.
 
2013-11-10 01:09:24 AM  

kaylward: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Swallow's Third Law: "The Republican Party fears nothing more than an honest count."

I fixed that for you... "The candidate leading the election fears nothing more than an honest count."

See the Al Franken election or the governor race in Washington state a few years back.


wat
 
2013-11-10 01:13:04 AM  
This is kinda like , well no where else. Other countries have what they try to clarify as being 'non-biased' and of no political leaning for the people who run the election. At least they stop politicians attempts of redrawing of districts for unfair advantages.

A current rightwing party leader in British Columbia, she lost, but her party won. So since the party leader can't lead without being elected, instead of quitting, she had a do-over. She had one of her elected members quit, then she ran in that right-leaning district to win. she even had to buy a token house, as you are supposed to live in the district you represent.

/Election fraud is profitable when no one can afford to sue your ass into prison, as the ruling party owns the courts and Judges and Prosecutors.
 
2013-11-10 01:14:53 AM  
Of course they do it AFTER the election. BEFORE the election you don't know which rule needs to change to make your side win.
 
2013-11-10 01:19:26 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: could somebody explain the article to me because i read it twice and i honestly dont understand whats happening


Sounds like provisional ballots (you know, the kind used by people who don't have or forget their ID, or whose paperwork gets messed up by the system, or have some other extenuating circumstance, a majority of which magically happen to be minorities) are being extinguished by insane rules. From what I can tell, all 3,200 people who submitted provisional ballots have to contact the authorities, and may actually have to be present while their vote is counted. Meaning 99% of those votes will be thrown out. Based on the numbers given, if the Party of Voter Suppression can suppress even half, their candidate will still win.

(not a democracy expert in any way, that's just my interpretation of the article which, I agree, is incredibly roundabout.)

(Voter suppression should be considered treason, and 2nd Amendment enthusiasts who aren't ticked off about it should have their rights suppressed, as well.)
 
2013-11-10 01:21:45 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: could somebody explain the article to me because i read it twice and i honestly dont understand whats happening


I second this. In terms a drunk person can understand please.
 
2013-11-10 01:23:26 AM  

Mentat: They could at least pretend to not be dicks.


I have this bridge...
 
2013-11-10 01:23:27 AM  
Can someone translate WTF TFA is saying?  I live in VA.  I voted against the guy who wanted to outlaw oral sex.  I chose the doucebag over the turd sandwich.  I don't understand what TFA says.

/not sober.
//not proud.
///not letting three slashies go to waste.
 
2013-11-10 01:27:21 AM  

sheep snorter: A current rightwing party leader in British Columbia, she lost, but her party won. So since the party leader can't lead without being elected, instead of quitting, she had a do-over. She had one of her elected members quit, then she ran in that right-leaning district to win. she even had to buy a token house, as you are supposed to live in the district you represent.


I don't see how the token home is any different than what Elizabeth May did to find a district that would elect her. Getting an MP to resign so the party leader could run in their place after the main election took place is a rip off of taxpayer dollars. If the party was billed, then I wouldn't care. If the people of that district want her to be their representative, then that's fine but the rest of the province shouldn't be billed for their electoral game. Hopefully the MP who resigned is never able to get elected again.
 
2013-11-10 01:28:50 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: could somebody explain the article to me because i read it twice and i honestly dont understand whats happening


In a close race (which this is), provisional ballots are counted. Provisional ballots are the few votes where somebody accidentally voted in the wrong district, etc. Republicans are afraid that they'll lose if they're counted, so they quickly changed the rules to make it harder to count provisional ballots. It's like requiring ID's, even though there's no voter fraud.
 
2013-11-10 01:32:38 AM  

foo monkey: Can someone translate WTF TFA is saying?  I live in VA.  I voted against the guy who wanted to outlaw oral sex.  I chose the doucebag over the turd sandwich.  I don't understand what TFA says.

/not sober.
//not proud.
///not letting three slashies go to waste.


Wrong election.  This is for the State's Attorney General.

You know, the office that looks into corruption.
 
2013-11-10 01:37:45 AM  
And when this case goes to trial, guess who gets to represent the state of Virginia?
 
2013-11-10 01:41:34 AM  
Small government at its finest.
 
2013-11-10 01:45:45 AM  

Stile4aly: And when this case goes to trial, guess who gets to represent the state of Virginia?


I wish the federal government could interfere in a matter like this and say "Hey, about that new law... no."

But then again, the turdbags who did this in Virginia were trying to do that in Congress for a while, and we all know how that's going so far...
 
2013-11-10 01:49:17 AM  

Nabb1: SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.

Food for thought - if they secede and become a separate state, they get two Senators.


Kinda why it will never happen, just like the 51st state deal here in Colorado.
 
2013-11-10 01:57:02 AM  
littlebobeep.com
 
2013-11-10 01:57:23 AM  
Conservatives today must be some of the most non self aware people I have ever seen.  They just don't know how the look to others do they?  Va. was one of those states that passed new voter laws and still on election night the comments on many sites from the right were how democrats cheated again.  Now they will defend this case of actual cheating because ... heck I don't know.

You can just see one of them walking down the sidewalk and telling the elderly beggar to get a job you parasite.  Then walk around some sick people who have no insurance, and enter the Lord and Taylor where a dude, who graduated from college is now stuck making minimum wage due to the economy, smiles at them and wishes them a happy holiday.  Upon hearing those words, they have a meltdown about the war on Christmas.

t.qkme.me
 
2013-11-10 01:58:27 AM  

jst3p: Nabb1: SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.

Food for thought - if they secede and become a separate state, they get two Senators.

Kinda why it will never happen, just like the 51st state deal here in Colorado.


Then the remaining Red State gets two Senators.

Besides,  new state has to be ratified by Congress. You could try, but I can assure you that it will never happen.
 
2013-11-10 02:18:03 AM  
images.sodahead.com

OTOH, shouldn't be hard to find someone with legal standing to injunct a biatch
 
2013-11-10 02:25:32 AM  

quo vadimus: Bonanza Jellybean: could somebody explain the article to me because i read it twice and i honestly dont understand whats happening

Sounds like provisional ballots (you know, the kind used by people who don't have or forget their ID, or whose paperwork gets messed up by the system, or have some other extenuating circumstance, a majority of which magically happen to be minorities) are being extinguished by insane rules. From what I can tell, all 3,200 people who submitted provisional ballots have to contact the authorities, and may actually have to be present while their vote is counted. Meaning 99% of those votes will be thrown out. Based on the numbers given, if the Party of Voter Suppression can suppress even half, their candidate will still win.

(not a democracy expert in any way, that's just my interpretation of the article which, I agree, is incredibly roundabout.)

(Voter suppression should be considered treason, and 2nd Amendment enthusiasts who aren't ticked off about it should have their rights suppressed, as well.)


Sadly, bizarrely, there is no explicit right to vote in the Constitution.

I'm used to thinking that the Constitution is this "framework" where the vagueness is a feature, and stuff like this is left up to future generations blah blah blah.

But FARKING HELL it's starting to occur to me it's just a 18th century legalistic Byzantine pile of committee-speak that is causing far more of our political and social problems that absolutely necessary. For God's sake, WHY IS THERE NO EXPLICIT RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE CONSTITUTION.
 
2013-11-10 02:25:56 AM  
To all our Republican friends who like to ask "what's the big deal about asking for ID at the polls?" but strangely enough don't have anything to say about this: fark you.
 
2013-11-10 02:28:26 AM  

jst3p: Nabb1: SurfaceTension: 2wolves: Yeah, piss off NoVa enough that they start looking at where most of the state's funding is coming from.  An excellent idea.  Please proceed.

Yeah I'm in NoVA and would love to see every county north of the Rappahannock secede from the rest of hte state. It'll never happen though.

Food for thought - if they secede and become a separate state, they get two Senators.

Kinda why it will never happen, just like the 51st state deal here in Colorado.


So we're all agreed. Puerto Rico can fark off.
 
2013-11-10 02:32:36 AM  
Those votes were skewed.
 
2013-11-10 02:35:57 AM  
All I have to say is if Republicans are proud of this, good for them.

I dunno, I have this basic belief that the majority of actual Republican voters are not actually proud of their party.  They still vote (R) but they are actually embarrassed by how their party acts and how their party wins.  I might be wrong but there it is.
 
2013-11-10 02:52:34 AM  

StopLurkListen: WHY IS THERE NO EXPLICIT RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


*Article I and Amendments XIV, XIX, XXIII, XXIV, and XXVI look puzzled and scratch their heads.*
 
2013-11-10 03:07:51 AM  
note to the GOP:

DIAF

seriously
just die already
 
2013-11-10 03:12:31 AM  
If they only had the proper voting ID's none of this would have happened.
 
2013-11-10 03:13:18 AM  

lennavan: All I have to say is if Republicans are proud of this, good for them.

I dunno, I have this basic belief that the majority of actual Republican voters are not actually proud of their party.  They still vote (R) but they are actually embarrassed by how their party acts and how their party wins.  I might be wrong but there it is.


By doing so they are accomplices and deserve the fate.

I agree with you but someone has to start standing up somewhere, and by not voting that would be a great passive/aggressive way to go
 
2013-11-10 03:13:33 AM  

lennavan: I dunno, I have this basic belief that the majority of actual Republican voters are not actually proud of their party.  They still vote (R) but they are actually embarrassed by how their party acts and how their party wins.  I might be wrong but there it is.


I would love to think that the majority of Republican voters are embarrassed by how their party has been acting. Sadly, none of the Republican voters that I personally know remotely support that hope. What I have seen is that the majority of Republican voters that I personally know just willfully ignore the things their party does that they find reprehensible. The other thing I hear is that they think cheating, gaming, and other dirty tactics are necessary to stop the "evil" liberals from doing whatever the worst thing they can imagine is.

Put quite simply, they believe whatever they have to in order to maintain their bias.

/independent
//limited viable voting options
 
2013-11-10 03:26:59 AM  
What in the hell does Best Korea have to do with this? They just shoot people that vote the wrong direction....hypothetical voting of course. Since they don't really care what the people think.

I guess here, the people just don't think, or allow others to think for them. Is the suggestion that we shoot non-thinkers?

Profound!
 
2013-11-10 03:33:20 AM  

gunslinger_RG: They just don't know how the look to others do they?


It's not that they don't know; it's that they don't care. The opinions of plebes like you and me are utterly insubstantial to them.
 
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