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2013-11-09 02:08:13 PM  

loonatic112358: Indian turnpike


Well, basically it's because it takes you to Hugo.......
 
2013-11-09 02:14:43 PM  

acad1228: loonatic112358: basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........

what the hell is the deal with the Indian turnpike

worst road I ever paid to drive on. c'mon i69

In Oklahoma our State tree is the orange and white traffic barrel.


Damn if that isn't true.
 
2013-11-09 02:17:05 PM  

devilskware: loonatic112358: texdent: I'm looking at that right, Dallas seems to be in  Greater Appalachia

Houston in deep south, San Antonio in el Norte, which sort of explains the city personalities some

Houston is like 40% Hispanic so I sure don't feel like I'm in the deep south. Also, a very large international population in general so basically this map is all retarded.


the original article explains the map

the map is mostly about the origins of the settlers of the region, and how they had an affect on the region's personality and methods in some things

wood for sheep
 
2013-11-09 02:20:28 PM  
This one seems more accurate:

www-personal.umich.edu
 
2013-11-09 02:22:36 PM  

teto85: RIDER NATION!!!!!  WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

[www.salvationarmy.ca image 512x432]


I grew up in Alaska, did my undergraduate degree in Oregon, grad school in New York, got a job in Ontario, and now live in Saskatchewan.  I guess the map explains why Saskatchewan feels more like home than the other places where I've lived. Still, I agree with the farker upthread who said that Canada should not have been included.  Government intrusion is unwelcome in Ontario?  Saskatchewan (where the Canadian socialized medical system was born) is deeply distrustful of big institutions?
 
2013-11-09 02:22:58 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


This
 
2013-11-09 02:23:31 PM  
GUYS GUYS GUYS

This is FARK, I mean COME ON

strangemaps.files.wordpress.com


Also, the TFA makes me want to play Civilization again
 
2013-11-09 02:25:08 PM  

costermonger: Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.


The midland part of Canada got a large influx of pacifists from the largely Quaker founded areas during the Revolutionary war. Maybe that is why Canadians are often perceived as being "nice".

The Appalachian mindset is rather opposite with people liking fighting and prone to fight over matters of "honor", producing such sons as Sen. John McCain who never met a war he didn't like. Not surprising is their large presence in the US armed forces.
 
2013-11-09 02:25:46 PM  

blinkybluegnome: teto85: RIDER NATION!!!!!  WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

[www.salvationarmy.ca image 512x432]

...and it all ends tomorrow.

/Lions for the win!


Nope.  Riders win this one, take a trip to Calgary and return home for one last win.
 
2013-11-09 02:28:16 PM  

Slam1263: This one seems more accurate:

[www-personal.umich.edu image 850x573]


Maybe you should use the cartogram that sizes the counties by population, since people vote, not square miles.

www-personal.umich.edu

There's also a map that blends the red and blue by voting percentage
www-personal.umich.edu
 
2013-11-09 02:31:11 PM  
Ohio is definitely wrong. Any map that puts greater Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati in Appalachia is objectively wrong. Appalachia, at least in Ohio, clearly begins within 20 miles of the line of glaciation.
 
2013-11-09 02:31:44 PM  

Slam1263: This one seems more accurate:


The blue counties of the South are Meth infested hives of scum and vilany.
 
2013-11-09 02:36:04 PM  

Fissile: Oldiron_79: red5ish:

That ruskie professor that did the chart red5ish posted went full retard if he thinks TN,KY, the Carolinas, and the Virginias are gonna join the EU if the US as we know it collapsed. The former CSA would likely all be together in 1 country.

=============

Join the CSA!  BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Too many people in those states are now accustom to having teeth and indoor plumbing.


Not necessaraly saying it would be called CSA and certainly wouldnt have slavery, but the states of former CSA would all unite into the same country if the US as we know it ended.
 
2013-11-09 02:40:43 PM  
More map fun. Cartogram of the world's population
www.esri.com

This is also a "fun fact", although it suffers severe distortion because of the projection they chose to use (Mollweide projection, if you're curious)
2.bp.blogspot.com
All methods of projections of a sphere (Earth) onto a 2D surface will suffer some sort of distortion, you just need to pick the map that has the least distortion for the purpose you're using it for.


And the relevant clip from the West Wing ("you're freaking me out")
 
2013-11-09 02:48:26 PM  

buzzcut73: Norte


violentsalvation: Norte


Am I the oly one who found the bolded part funny?

El Norte: Southwest Texas and the border region is the oldest, and most linguistically different, nation in the Americas. Hard work and self-sufficiency are prized values.

Really? Really???? What planet do these people live in??

/Not only El Norte but an actual Norteno.
 
2013-11-09 02:51:48 PM  

StopLurkListen: Maybe you should use the cartogram that sizes the counties by population, since people vote, not square miles.

[www-personal.umich.edu image 850x585]

There's also a map that blends the red and blue by voting percentage
[www-personal.umich.edu image 850x584]


www.biography.com

I see a beautiful bird rising into the sunlit sky, wings outspread, singing a beautiful song of life, covered with the blood of its victims and trailing ribbons of torn flesh.
 
2013-11-09 02:56:54 PM  
The cultural gulf between Appalachia and Yankeedom, Deep South and New Netherland is simply too large. But it's conceivable that some new alliance could form to tip the balance.

Alliances between radically-different groups are typically formed in response to a shared threat.

25.media.tumblr.com
"Say, that gives me an idea."
 
2013-11-09 03:01:01 PM  
Typical Americans think they can divide up Canada and Mexico.
Leave our countries out of this. We don't belong to you.
 
2013-11-09 03:18:16 PM  
I doubt that Bostonians and Buffalonians think they live in "Yankeedom" or San Franciscans regard their home as "The Left Coast".

But here in the "Deep South", people do refer to this region as the "Deep South".

So one of the labels isn't particularly derogatory, anyway...
 
2013-11-09 03:22:56 PM  

lohphat: The Puritans were kicked out of England not because they were persecuted, they were kicked out BECAUSE they were persecuting dicks.


If you read what the original article says, it's a bit different. Also the Puritans weren't the frigid kill joys people think they were.
 
2013-11-09 03:33:37 PM  

teto85: RIDER NATION!!!!!  WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

[www.salvationarmy.ca image 512x432]


I'll be cheering hard for you guys on Sunday.  But mostly so that you can lose on the last play of the Western Final and watch my Stamps take over your home dressing room.

/Saskatchewan Roughriders- finding new creative and unique ways to break the hearts of their fans since 1910
 
2013-11-09 03:34:43 PM  

red5ish: [img708.imageshack.us image 582x456]


I've been informed that any notions about Vermont and New Hampshire doing the same thing is a serious oil-water situation, just out of plain old ornery contrariness.
 
2013-11-09 03:39:59 PM  

TopoGigo: Ohio is definitely wrong. Any map that puts greater Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati in Appalachia is objectively wrong. Appalachia, at least in Ohio, clearly begins within 20 miles of the line of glaciation.


Northeast Ohio is bang-on correct.  In a lot of ways the culture there is more Yankee than parts of Western Massachusetts or upstate New York.
 
2013-11-09 03:58:17 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-11-09 04:07:39 PM  
Um, I don't know how they're justifying extending 'yankeedom' that far into New Brunswick, but that's a whole-cloth fabrication.
 
2013-11-09 04:21:14 PM  
Putting the rural midwest in the same 'nation' as the Rust Belt is foolish. Hell, there are so many ethnic enclaves in Wisconsin and Minnesota that you could draw pretty much any lines you feel like. There's a reason why there are so many of these maps- they're all arbitrary. Let's just cut to the chase by drawing a map that has a circle around your home town and the rest of the map is labeled "WEIRDOS".
 
2013-11-09 04:25:27 PM  
cdn.obsidianportal.com
 
2013-11-09 04:26:18 PM  
img.4plebs.org
 
2013-11-09 04:32:34 PM  
From the looks of it, someone from the Washington Post wrote an article summarizing another person's magazine article.

At first I though I lived in Yankeedom but upon closer inspection, I actually live in New Netherland.
 
2013-11-09 04:37:20 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I think my district makes trains and hovercars for the Capitol.


So do I get to blame you for how much Metro sucks?

\At least the 1000 series cars should be going away soon.
 
2013-11-09 04:57:27 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Um, I don't know how they're justifying extending 'yankeedom' that far into New Brunswick, but that's a whole-cloth fabrication.


Not sure how I"m stuck with some yahoos from North Dakota AND Texas.
 
2013-11-09 04:57:48 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


I've had a very different experience, Aside from travelling the world, and seeing totally different cultures, I've found the way of life to be very different from Oklahoma to NYC, and even different between NYC and DC (DC had way more violence, so NYC was pretty awesome for me). That said, even here within what the map terms "Far West," there are pretty big differences between even Colorado our neighbors in Utah and Wyoming... from acceptability of racism and homophobia, to the acceptance of marijuana and even alcohol, the "Far West" if far from monolithic in terms of relgious foothold, belief in science, cultural stigmas, and even food preferences.

As for the racist part, Oklahoma was far and away the worst experience I've ever had, though I saw some in FL, the part of Oklahoma I lived in (Stillwater) still had a very active KKK chapter even when I left there in the early 2000s.
 
2013-11-09 05:05:14 PM  
laughingsquid.com
cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2013-11-09 05:14:58 PM  

Fissile: A Manhattanite's view of the USA

[strangemaps.files.wordpress.com image 705x952]


Then there's this:

San Francisco Bay Area as seen by New Yorkers

laughingsquid.com
 
2013-11-09 05:31:50 PM  
Currently, I live in the Deep South; previously, I've lived in the northern Caribbean (south Florida) and Yankeedom (Pennsylvania).
 
2013-11-09 05:39:43 PM  
As someone who read this book a frickin' year ago at least, if not two....
www.oldmillinn.net

And I'm from Yankeedom, though I also agree with the idea that NH is an extension of Greater Appalachia.
 
2013-11-09 05:43:20 PM  
StopLurkListen:

There's also a map that blends the red and blue by voting percentage
[www-personal.umich.edu image 850x584]



Wow, look at how much that one makes Utah stand out... how embarrassing.
 
2013-11-09 05:48:40 PM  
Winnipeg and southern Manitoba, is divided into Midlads and Far West. Neither detention makes any sence. Distrustful of big government and fiercely libertarian are not ways to describe the Provence/state with the currently longest serving socialist style government in North America. (NDP)

Here, I'm going to walk across the street and keep posting to prove my point ...

It's a conspiracy by big science! Study it out friends!
 
2013-11-09 05:49:28 PM  

lohphat: Fissile: A Manhattanite's view of the USA

[strangemaps.files.wordpress.com image 705x952]

Then there's this:

San Francisco Bay Area as seen by New Yorkers

[laughingsquid.com image 640x589]


How about Paris as seen by New Yorkers:

www.zap-actu.fr
 
2013-11-09 06:02:55 PM  
The Left Coast, but frankly, the Olympic Peninsula outside of Port Townsend is rather right-wing.

They might have voted in Obama in 2008, but not last year. And the Tea Party dipshiats are in full force, working to protect the interests of the failing lumber industry out here.

So, I don't know how you'd categorize it. Seattle is pretty left coast, though. Except for the corporate tyranny.
 
2013-11-09 06:09:03 PM  
i220.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-09 06:38:10 PM  

StopLurkListen: GUYS GUYS GUYS

This is FARK, I mean COME ON

[strangemaps.files.wordpress.com image 850x475]


Also, the TFA makes me want to play Civilization again


WOW.  That is a horrible map.  On so many levels.


strangemaps.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-09 06:40:15 PM  

vpb: It's pretty common for people from the south to deny that they ever saw any racism there, but it's just pride.  I grew up in the South and there's no way you could live there and not hear racist things, pretty much daily.


I've spent most of my life here and I don't hear it.  Maybe your town just sucked?
 
2013-11-09 06:42:15 PM  

vpb: It's pretty common for people from the south to deny that they ever saw any racism there, but it's just pride.  I grew up in the South and there's no way you could live there and not hear racist things, pretty much daily.


I've lived here for two whole years after relocating from Pennsylvania, so pride has nothing to do with it.

If you were hearing racist things pretty much daily, the people you surrounded yourself with pretty much must have been horrible people.
 
2013-11-09 07:11:49 PM  

Fissile: Oldiron_79: red5ish:

That ruskie professor that did the chart red5ish posted went full retard if he thinks TN,KY, the Carolinas, and the Virginias are gonna join the EU if the US as we know it collapsed. The former CSA would likely all be together in 1 country.

=============

Join the CSA!  BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Too many people in those states are now accustom to having teeth and indoor plumbing.


We also own most of the guns...


/Representing Tidewater
//Chris Brown is the shame of Tidewater
 
2013-11-09 07:12:09 PM  
I love the whole "south florida goes to cuba cause haha cuband live dere" thing that always pops up on these cute little reimaginings of borders. Cause, you know, there's no white people in Miami, or Broward, certainly not in West Palm. Ignore rich white areas like Boca, you can't even reach there trying to go through all the dirty minorities that live here (and obviously they all came here cause they looooved their old countries).
 
2013-11-09 07:25:02 PM  
Well, I'll have to disagree with those people claiming there's no difference between the "nations".

I've lived in Greater Appalachia (WV), Tidewater (NC and VA), Deep South (NC, SC, and GA, The Midlands (MD and OH), and now I'm back in Greater Appalachia (NC). Also, I almost moved to New France (LA). I backed out of that job just before Katrina hit, though.

Just by itself, North Carolina is a good example of three of those regions. There's a lot of "bleed-over" around the borders, but the Tidewater is very different from Greater Appalachia, and the Deep South section of NC is very different from both. Western NC and western VA have more in common with each other than they do with the eastern halves of their own states, and southeastern NC has more in common with SC and GA than it does with the rest of NC.

I think those who don't see the difference are just seeing the cities. All of the major cities could almost be considered their own nation, as their attitudes are often closer to those of other cities than they are to the country just a few miles away, Asheville, NC (though a smaller city than most) has little in common with towns just one county over, and Atlanta, GA has much the same issue with its own surrounding counties. The difference is less pronounced in the Tidewater and Midlands, as there is more "city" than there is "country". It's MORE pronounced in the Deep South, as the "city" and the "country" often have extreme differences in their ideologies.
 
2013-11-09 07:29:45 PM  

emonk: I doubt that Bostonians and Buffalonians think they live in "Yankeedom" or San Franciscans regard their home as "The Left Coast".

But here in the "Deep South", people do refer to this region as the "Deep South".

So one of the labels isn't particularly derogatory, anyway...


And, contrary to a popular belief, being born in the SouthLand does not automatically make one a Southerner. After  all, if the cat crawled into the oven and gave birth you would not call them "biscuits".

This is true about The South
 
2013-11-09 07:46:35 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


How long did you stay? I thought NV was great for years. Then I started getting to know people very well.

/Left coast and Far West are  not the same
//Specifically, the libertarian bent annoys the hell out of me
///No, Grandma, you cannot tell if you get subsidies under Obamacare or not unless you go to the website.
 
2013-11-09 07:57:30 PM  

Parthenogenetic: [i.imgur.com image 850x633]

Fark, I am disappoint.


Figured Weaver would have it covered Chummer.
 
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