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2013-11-09 01:07:39 PM  

basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........


what the hell is the deal with the Indian turnpike

worst road I ever paid to drive on. c'mon i69
 
2013-11-09 01:07:50 PM  

tuna fingers: buzzcut73: El Norte in the house. New Mexico isn't bad, I find the weather agreeable most of the time, and if you like geology I can't think of anywhere that has more variety than we do in this state.

Hey buzz, we were gonna get a beer when you finished that summer class..


Oh yeah! Good news, it's over now. I moved across town right after it was over and it slipped my feeble mind.
My bad, I'll get in touch and work that out.
 
2013-11-09 01:07:52 PM  

lantawa: Where is Land of the Carpetbaggers?


Chappaqua is in Southern NYS
 
2013-11-09 01:08:21 PM  
Far West. All these designations are stupid; people of all types live everywhere. Everyone thinks that Montana is some kind of wild hillbillywood where everybody is poor and stupid and has a gun, but there's just as many people who moved here because they're tree-hugging liberals who love the outdoors and can afford to live here.
 
2013-11-09 01:09:09 PM  
Hard to tell but it looks like Tidewater.
 
2013-11-09 01:09:58 PM  

texdent: I'm looking at that right, Dallas seems to be in  Greater Appalachia


Houston in deep south, San Antonio in el Norte, which sort of explains the city personalities some
 
2013-11-09 01:10:57 PM  

Krieghund: Mouren: Anyone got a version of the map that is actually legible?
/no I'm not old get off my lawn

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]
If that still isn't big enough for you, here's the link


reasons that map is bullshiat:
Fauquier county Virginia is in "Greater Appalachia" while Culpeper and Rappahannock counties are "Tidewater"
 
2013-11-09 01:11:46 PM  
I spent my first half of childhood in New Netherland and the second half in Yankeedom.  Was born in the Deep South and have relatives in Tidewater and Midlands.  Grandfather was a rancher from the border of Left Coast and Far West.  Descriptions are spot on but the borders should be more of a gradient.
 
2013-11-09 01:12:04 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


Read the article from Tufts, it goes into more detail
 
2013-11-09 01:12:36 PM  
Old news. Used to be the Nine Nations of North America. My region changed is name from Aztlán to El Norte. Big deal. It's still the center of the Universe and should encompas Baja, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Northern Mexico, Texas, and southern Colorado.

Texas is a variant of the Nahuatl based Aztlán. The best tranlation into English is "The Holy Land" which is why so many inhabitants are named Jesus.
 
2013-11-09 01:12:52 PM  

red5ish: [img708.imageshack.us image 582x456]


[Russian professor's map of how the USA is likely to split up]
[Alaska will go to Russia]

Wow.  Couldn't see that coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57M79TyqeHA
 
2013-11-09 01:13:52 PM  

Voiceofreason01: or the short version of the article: a map of how the author imagines the world to be


The author of TFA isn't the one who made the map. If you read the linked to article from Tufts you'll see there's more to it than some people think there is.
 
2013-11-09 01:14:32 PM  

basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........


I'm a Choctaw (Chata) living in the Creek (Muscogee) Nation.
 
2013-11-09 01:15:44 PM  
But can we agree that the South indeed sucks and that we'd be better off if Tex-ass secedes?

// The rest of the nation's collective IQ would increase, and its BMI would decrease.  Win-win!
 
2013-11-09 01:16:12 PM  

loonatic112358: basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........

what the hell is the deal with the Indian turnpike

worst road I ever paid to drive on. c'mon i69


In Oklahoma our State tree is the orange and white traffic barrel.
 
2013-11-09 01:17:15 PM  

buzzcut73: tuna fingers: buzzcut73: El Norte in the house. New Mexico isn't bad, I find the weather agreeable most of the time, and if you like geology I can't think of anywhere that has more variety than we do in this state.

Hey buzz, we were gonna get a beer when you finished that summer class..

Oh yeah! Good news, it's over now. I moved across town right after it was over and it slipped my feeble mind.
My bad, I'll get in touch and work that out.


What part of town?  I'm near Hastings - Farleys is within a long walk.
 
2013-11-09 01:17:24 PM  

FlashHarry: midlands, represent!


AYE, lads!
 
2013-11-09 01:17:37 PM  
The one where I'm surrounded by ignorant mouth-breathers.

Oh wait....
 
2013-11-09 01:21:19 PM  

red5ish:


That ruskie professor that did the chart red5ish posted went full retard if he thinks TN,KY, the Carolinas, and the Virginias are gonna join the EU if the US as we know it collapsed. The former CSA would likely all be together in 1 country.
 
2013-11-09 01:24:23 PM  

Oldiron_79: red5ish:

That ruskie professor that did the chart red5ish posted went full retard if he thinks TN,KY, the Carolinas, and the Virginias are gonna join the EU if the US as we know it collapsed. The former CSA would likely all be together in 1 country.


=============

Join the CSA!  BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Too many people in those states are now accustom to having teeth and indoor plumbing.
 
2013-11-09 01:25:17 PM  

loonatic112358: texdent: I'm looking at that right, Dallas seems to be in  Greater Appalachia

Houston in deep south, San Antonio in el Norte, which sort of explains the city personalities some


Houston is like 40% Hispanic so I sure don't feel like I'm in the deep south. Also, a very large international population in general so basically this map is all retarded.
 
2013-11-09 01:25:57 PM  
El Norte
 
2013-11-09 01:26:19 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.


The article didn't do Woodward and his book justice. It isn't that the different parts of America are completely alien to each other, it's that there are differences between the regions and Woodward explains what those differences are and why they happened.

I think you overestimate how much people move around because you're in the class of people that do move around a lot. The majority of people still stay close to where they grew up. Not necessarily in the same town, but in the same region.

People also tend to be attracted to places that mirror their values. Arizona is a great example of this: there are whole cities of conservative old people that moved there from out of state. Yes, the weather is good, but they're also attracted by the low taxes and conservative values in local governance. So even the people coming from out of state perpetuate the cultural values of the area.
 
2013-11-09 01:28:01 PM  
Pffft, I live in Berzerkistan. Yes, Berzerkistan, where Stan's the man, with the plan.
 
2013-11-09 01:28:15 PM  
RIDER NATION!!!!!  WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

www.salvationarmy.ca
 
2013-11-09 01:32:38 PM  

tuna fingers: buzzcut73: tuna fingers: buzzcut73: El Norte in the house. New Mexico isn't bad, I find the weather agreeable most of the time, and if you like geology I can't think of anywhere that has more variety than we do in this state.

Hey buzz, we were gonna get a beer when you finished that summer class..

Oh yeah! Good news, it's over now. I moved across town right after it was over and it slipped my feeble mind.
My bad, I'll get in touch and work that out.

What part of town?  I'm near Hastings - Farleys is within a long walk.


Mesa Grande. Nothing is within even a long walking distance. Well, McDonald's is, but they don't serve beer.
Somebody needs to build a bar out this way.
 
2013-11-09 01:33:33 PM  
www.city-data.com

/oblig
 
2013-11-09 01:33:42 PM  

basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........


Yeah, I was under the impression I lived in the Muscogee Creek Nation.

This map is dildos.
 
2013-11-09 01:36:07 PM  
i.imgur.com

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2013-11-09 01:36:51 PM  

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


It's all the same country if everywhere you live and everyone you work with is part of the migratory suburban middle class. That's no more than 20 percent of the population. Most people are what you'd consider poor, and most of them don't move from one part of the country to another. The working class culture in Brooklyn is MILES apart from that in Kingsport, Tennessee or Denver.
 
2013-11-09 01:37:33 PM  

Trance354: I'm in the far west, but I've been in the midlands.  There wasn't a sign of the sprites I've heard about, or heart hounds, or Mud People.  All those books lied!

/book nerd


Master Rahl guide us. Master Rahl teach us. Master Rahl protect us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours.
 
2013-11-09 01:37:46 PM  
www.structural-communication.com
In some ways the Nine Nations of North America is better because:
1.  Pittsburgh is not Appalachia.  The culture is more akin to Detroit and Chicago than it is to Wheeling, WV (even though Pittsburghers will tell you that they're more like NYC than Chicago).
2.  In the 11 nations, they have slotted everything from Chicago to Maine in to "Yankeedom".  Chicago feels nothing like Maine or Boston.
3.  I'm not seeing the similarities between Texas and Appalachia.

In some ways the 11 is better because:
1.  Appalachia needs to be separated from the Deep South.  They were settled by different people and the slavery situation in both were very different (re: Appalachia hardly had any).  They remain different.
2.  Tidewater is a nice addition.  The East Coast from Savannah to Virginia are more similar than Savannah is to Montgomery or Hattiesburg.
3.  Louisiana really is different than the rest of the South.
 
2013-11-09 01:38:00 PM  
The frontier of Yankeedom. If I get up on the top floor of the Qwest building downtown and look west, I can see the midlands.
The placement of my town in Yankeedom is fairly apt. It's the only city in the state included, and the rest of the state hates us for our influence because we act like a city and not some hick-ass small town like the rest of the state.
 
2013-11-09 01:39:20 PM  
This seems somewhat lifted from "Albion's Seed."
 
2013-11-09 01:40:04 PM  
A Manhattanite's view of the USA

strangemaps.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-09 01:42:20 PM  

mbillips: gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.

It's all the same country if everywhere you live and everyone you work with is part of the migratory suburban middle class. That's no more than 20 percent of the population. Most people are what you'd consider poor, and most of them don't move from one part of the country to another. The working class culture in Brooklyn is MILES apart from that in Kingsport, Tennessee or Denver.


I was going to say the same thing. I'm a born and bred NYer any time I travel I notice major regional differences in attitudes and tempermant. I mean, Manhattan is certainly one of the most transitory areas in the world, but I can still tell right away if someone is from NYC or somewhere else (no matter how much they argue that living in Midtown for 1 year qualifies them as an NYer). Yes, I think most people are decent. But there's different world views everywhere that are pretty easy to pick up on.
 
2013-11-09 01:42:53 PM  

teto85: RIDER NATION!!!!!  WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!

[www.salvationarmy.ca image 512x432]


...and it all ends tomorrow.

/Lions for the win!
 
2013-11-09 01:43:18 PM  
They forgot Deseret, Junktown, Deadwood, The Maze...

/obscure?
 
2013-11-09 01:44:03 PM  
FTFA: Yankeedom: Founded by Puritans, [...] They value education and the common good more than other regions.

I call BS.

The Puritans were kicked out of England not because they were persecuted, they were kicked out BECAUSE they were persecuting dicks.

After they led the slaughter of the natives, they started killing white people they didn't like.
 
2013-11-09 01:45:10 PM  

Fissile: A Manhattanite's view of the USA

[strangemaps.files.wordpress.com image 705x952]


I have that on my wall :-)

Manhattanites (particularly those not born in Manhattan) are some of the most provincial people in the world. But everyone knows it.
 
2013-11-09 01:45:25 PM  

vpb: Lor M. Ipsum: I agree with everything else you say but this.  I saw plenty of racism when I lived in northwest Florida, both white-on-black and black-on-white.  One did not have to look far.

However, I've also lived in rural Michigan and have not seen a lick of racism, but I might attribute that to the lack of racial diversity in those areas.  I would imagine it to be different in the more urban areas.

It's pretty common for people from the south to deny that they ever saw any racism there, but it's just pride.  I grew up in the South and there's no way you could live there and not hear racist things, pretty much daily.

Not that there isn't any any where else, but it's a part of the culture in the South.


There is an old saying, "In the South, people don't mind negroes in their homes as long as they ain't uppity.  In the North, people don't mind negroes being uppity, as long as they stay out of their house."

I'm not sure if actual data will bear it out, but it does seem to reflect the respective cultures.  White people in the South dealt with blacks on a daily basis.  First as slaves, then as servants, but always in close proximity.  In the North, black people were largely an abstraction until after the Civil War, and it shows in the way a lot of northern cities are segregated into neighborhoods.

Different sides of the same turd I suppose.
 
2013-11-09 01:46:55 PM  

lohphat: FTFA: Yankeedom: Founded by Puritans, [...] They value education and the common good more than other regions.

I call BS.

The Puritans were kicked out of England not because they were persecuted, they were kicked out BECAUSE they were persecuting dicks.

After they led the slaughter of the natives, they started killing white people they didn't like.


===============

Very true.  The Puritans left England because their dream of starting a Taliban-like theocracy was thwarted.
 
2013-11-09 01:47:08 PM  
Rapmaster2000:
3.  Louisiana really is different than the rest of the South.

Yes. Yes, it is. As a ninth-generation New Orleanian, I explain it to people by saying New Orleans is more like the Carriean than it is like the rest of the American South. Some of my ancestors did come to NOLA from San Domingue and Martinique.
 
2013-11-09 01:49:25 PM  
img.fark.net

This guy sees the same inevitability that Randall sees.
 
2013-11-09 01:49:47 PM  
How the average European views America.

cynicalqueer.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-11-09 01:55:19 PM  

crotchgrabber: The book is a good read.

Left coast, bordering El Norte and the Far West. The weather is lovely today.


*Looks down, waaaay down*  What's up fellow left coaster?  Wish I had your weather, looking like rain and wind, as usual, for another 5 months.
 
2013-11-09 01:57:12 PM  

Krieghund: Mouren: Anyone got a version of the map that is actually legible?
/no I'm not old get off my lawn

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]
If that still isn't big enough for you, here's the link


The map is in error. The midlands in Washington actually start about 20 miles before the eastern king county border and are really only applicable to king county and the greater Seattle area. Outside of that you have a lot more overlap with the "midlands" and Alaska.
 
2013-11-09 01:59:16 PM  

cuzsis: Krieghund: Mouren: Anyone got a version of the map that is actually legible?
/no I'm not old get off my lawn

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]
If that still isn't big enough for you, here's the link

The map is in error. The midlands in Washington actually start about 20 miles before the eastern king county border and are really only applicable to king county and the greater Seattle area. Outside of that you have a lot more overlap with the "midlands" and Alaska.


Argh. I mean "Far West". 

/haven't had my coffee yet.
 
2013-11-09 02:00:58 PM  
I've lived in 5.  Currently, "Greater Appalachia" but only 2 counties from "Deep South".
 
2013-11-09 02:03:10 PM  
New Hampshire doesn't belong in Yankeedom, give NH and Maine to New France.

unamused: Chicago is in the low violent death area because of its good gun control.


[lolwut.png]
Chicago has low violent deaths?

I do agree that the focus on gun control ruins what could otherwise be a good article.
 
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