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2013-11-09 09:39:29 AM
midlands, represent!
 
2013-11-09 09:52:23 AM
Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-09 09:54:25 AM
Yes, give south Florida to Cuba. Reuinite those families.
 
2013-11-09 10:07:31 AM
Awww... But I hate the Yankees!
 
2013-11-09 10:08:21 AM
What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.
 
2013-11-09 10:21:48 AM
So this puts Austin TX in Greater Appalachia, a small distance away from El Norte and the Deep South.
 
2013-11-09 10:43:24 AM
Where is Land of the Carpetbaggers?
 
2013-11-09 10:47:46 AM
This is a thinly disguised anti-gun screed.  What a maroon!

Chicago is in the low violent death area because of its good gun control.
Fort Worth is in the high violent death area because of lax gun laws and stand your ground.
Of course, no evidence to back any of this horseshiat up.
I guess Fort Worth should start doing like the low violence areas of Detroit, New York City, Philly, LA, Compton, Oakland, DC, etc.

/*snicker*
 
2013-11-09 11:21:02 AM
Greater Appalachia in da house!

/ now get out of my house, damn Yankee carpetbaggers
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-11-09 11:21:58 AM
It didn't take long for the redneck butthurt to show up did it?
 
2013-11-09 11:22:59 AM
I think my district makes trains and hovercars for the Capitol.
 
2013-11-09 11:29:04 AM
Far West Far West
 
2013-11-09 11:29:09 AM

gfid: People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.


I agree with everything else you say but this.  I saw plenty of racism when I lived in northwest Florida, both white-on-black and black-on-white.  One did not have to look far.

However, I've also lived in rural Michigan and have not seen a lick of racism, but I might attribute that to the lack of racial diversity in those areas.  I would imagine it to be different in the more urban areas.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-11-09 11:36:56 AM

Lor M. Ipsum: I agree with everything else you say but this.  I saw plenty of racism when I lived in northwest Florida, both white-on-black and black-on-white.  One did not have to look far.

However, I've also lived in rural Michigan and have not seen a lick of racism, but I might attribute that to the lack of racial diversity in those areas.  I would imagine it to be different in the more urban areas.


It's pretty common for people from the south to deny that they ever saw any racism there, but it's just pride.  I grew up in the South and there's no way you could live there and not hear racist things, pretty much daily.

Not that there isn't any any where else, but it's a part of the culture in the South.
 
2013-11-09 12:03:10 PM
I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........
 
2013-11-09 12:06:18 PM
Far West, although it is generally called Mountain West as it really doesn't fit in with the Eastern side of the West Coast states; there's a completely different mindset and culture there.
 
2013-11-09 12:29:11 PM
This idea was stupid when it was a book a couple of years ago, and it's stupid now.

I can only assume the author is Map Porn Redditor and/or D&D maphead, who is trying to apply their love of maps to reimagine the US. Because 'far fetched' doesn't begin to cover it.
 
2013-11-09 12:43:40 PM
Anyone got a version of the map that is actually legible?
/no I'm not old get off my lawn
 
2013-11-09 12:45:31 PM
Protectorate of the Outer Banks or the  Confederation of American States, depending on what year it is.
 
2013-11-09 12:47:00 PM
Thank god the white and red seas are shallow
 
2013-11-09 12:48:27 PM
I'm in the far west, but I've been in the midlands.  There wasn't a sign of the sprites I've heard about, or heart hounds, or Mud People.  All those books lied!

/book nerd
 
2013-11-09 12:49:06 PM
It was an interesting concept thirty years ago when Joel Garreau of the Post wrote Nine Nations. I don't see this adding anything new to the discussion.
 
2013-11-09 12:49:18 PM
The book is a good read.

Left coast, bordering El Norte and the Far West. The weather is lovely today.
 
2013-11-09 12:50:04 PM

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it.  I've lived in 4 different states - 6 different metropolitan areas.  I won't even break down how many actual cities.

I've also been to all 11 of those "nations".  Some of them have unique qualities.  The weather varies more than the people, but we're all the same country.  I love how people make fun of Texas, Arizona and Florida, but do you realize that a whole lot of residents of those states weren't even born there?  When I lived in AZ, I never actually met a native.  I met people from California, Mexico, Idaho, Wyoming, but nobody who was actually born there.

People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

And yet for the most part, most people were decent.  There are some really shiatty places in the US, but there are a lot of good people living in those shiatty places.  I don't really know why, but it's probably because they were born there and just couldn't figure out that they could move or maybe they didn't have the money to move.


or the short version of the article: a map of how the author imagines the world to be
 
2013-11-09 12:51:43 PM
El Norte in the house. New Mexico isn't bad, I find the weather agreeable most of the time, and if you like geology I can't think of anywhere that has more variety than we do in this state.
 
2013-11-09 12:52:06 PM
I've lived in the Deep South my entire life.

I'd kind of like to try out Massechussets or Connecticut. But i don't like cold.

I'm tired of crushing poverty, and everybody having to make do as best they can.
 
2013-11-09 12:52:32 PM

basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........


I'm in the Pawnee.
 
2013-11-09 12:53:19 PM

basemetal: I live in the great Chickasaw Nation........


Joe Strummer and I, we be Mescaleros.
 
2013-11-09 12:53:52 PM
Eet stront, farkers!  From New Netherlands.
 
2013-11-09 12:54:08 PM

buzzcut73: El Norte in the house. New Mexico isn't bad, I find the weather agreeable most of the time, and if you like geology I can't think of anywhere that has more variety than we do in this state.


Hey buzz, we were gonna get a beer when you finished that summer class..
 
2013-11-09 12:55:02 PM

costermonger: Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.


Yeah the author apparently equates eastern Nebraska, eastern South and North Dakota, the Oklahoma pan-handle, and a large chunk of Iowa with places like Philadelphia, Baltimore, Toronto, St. Louis, Columbus. Seems like a pretty stupid generalization to me.
 
2013-11-09 12:55:45 PM
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2013-11-09 12:56:19 PM
The Midlands: Stretching from Quaker territory west through Iowa and into more populated areas of the Midwest, the Midlands are "pluralistic and organized around the middle class." Government intrusion is unwelcome, and ethnic and ideological purity isn't a priority.

Uh...

/Lives in Ontario, where Government Intrusion into our lives is sort of welcomed if done by Premiere Dad.
 
2013-11-09 12:57:40 PM
I'm looking at that right, Dallas seems to be in  Greater Appalachia
 
2013-11-09 12:59:13 PM

Lor M. Ipsum: gfid: People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.

I agree with everything else you say but this.  I saw plenty of racism when I lived in northwest Florida, both white-on-black and black-on-white.  One did not have to look far.

However, I've also lived in rural Michigan and have not seen a lick of racism, but I might attribute that to the lack of racial diversity in those areas.  I would imagine it to be different in the more urban areas.


Anecdotal isn't a good measure. I worked industrial growing up, mostly poor laborers. Nearly all of our African-Americans were northern transplants, and to a wo/man they said racism was far worse in whatever northern area they'd come from than it was here. I live in Nashville; large mix of transplants, so not as much overt racism of any kind. Go 30 miles in any direction and it's vastly different.

My experiences in northern cities have been riddled with extremely nice people - until I mention I'm from the south (I have no accent); then the bigotry is palpable. I'm not saying the south is better; I'm white and I recommend you don't go anywhere in rural Appalachia, no matter your ethnicity. If you aren't local, the best you can hope for is to be treated like crap.
 
2013-11-09 12:59:28 PM
Greater Appalachia. Can't you hear the banjo music?
 
2013-11-09 12:59:58 PM
Far West.  Although I think the Canadian parts of that are far, far different from the US parts.
 
2013-11-09 01:00:52 PM
The derp south
 
2013-11-09 01:02:38 PM

insano: costermonger: Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.

Yeah the author apparently equates eastern Nebraska, eastern South and North Dakota, the Oklahoma pan-handle, and a large chunk of Iowa with places like Philadelphia, Baltimore, Toronto, St. Louis, Columbus. Seems like a pretty stupid generalization to me.


The unifying theme of the Midlands region seems to be "places where people are pretty religious but aren't huge dicks about it most of the time."

Not sure how parts of Kansas fit in, but oh well.
 
2013-11-09 01:02:47 PM

costermonger: Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.


Same goes here. Would seem I can relate with Minnesota/Wisconsin/ND more than Oklahoma, Pennsylvania or Maryland.

But I'm also right near the border with the far west and yankeedon apparently.
 
2013-11-09 01:02:51 PM
Went do we all have to send our tribute to the capital again?


/no one talks about what happened to the 12th American nation.
 
2013-11-09 01:04:08 PM
it would seem I'm in the deep south part of Texas
 
2013-11-09 01:04:29 PM
Same one as the last time this was green-lit.
 
2013-11-09 01:05:07 PM

Carousel Beast: Lor M. Ipsum: gfid:  I'm white and I recommend you don't go anywhere in rural Appalachia, no matter your ethnicity. If you aren't local, the best you can hope for is to be treated like crap.


Maybe it's you.
 
2013-11-09 01:05:07 PM

Mouren: Anyone got a version of the map that is actually legible?
/no I'm not old get off my lawn


4.bp.blogspot.com
If that still isn't big enough for you, here's the link
 
2013-11-09 01:05:10 PM
Southern Ontario is in the same region as the Oklahoma Panhandle.  Right.   I live in the former and visit the latter annually (shout out to the Okie-Tex StarParty!!) and the people and the culture in the two areas couldn't possibly be more different.

Probably a mistake to try to include Canada in the map.
 
2013-11-09 01:05:50 PM

darwinpolice: insano: costermonger: Apparently Midlands, but I don't quite see the link between this part of Canada and that part of the US.

Yeah the author apparently equates eastern Nebraska, eastern South and North Dakota, the Oklahoma pan-handle, and a large chunk of Iowa with places like Philadelphia, Baltimore, Toronto, St. Louis, Columbus. Seems like a pretty stupid generalization to me.

The unifying theme of the Midlands region seems to be "places where people are pretty religious but aren't huge dicks about it most of the time."

Not sure how parts of Kansas fit in, but oh well.


You would include Toronto, Philadelphia, Columbus and Baltimore as places where people are pretty religious?
 
2013-11-09 01:06:54 PM

gfid: What a stupid farking article.  I've lived in 3 of those "nations" and you know what?  They're all pretty much the same.   You might spot a few differences here and there, but its all the same goddamned country basically especially when you consider how freely many of us move about it. 
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People say the South is racist, but I never saw racism until I lived in a Northern state and then it was both black on white and white on black racism.



I lived in the 'deep south' region (Tampa Bay, Florida and the Florida Panhandle) for 15 years. I've been living in the upper New England for two years now. I've found that the Deep Southers are more open about their racism - one of my ex-husband's friends loudly exclaimed, "Hey, who let those n****** in here?" at a restaurant one evening. However, at least where I live in New England, racism is just as rampant, but not as loudly proclaimed. And yes, it goes both ways up here: whites to hispanics and hispanics to whites.
 
2013-11-09 01:06:59 PM
Thank you for recognizing that South Louisiana is very different from the rest of the Deep South.
 
2013-11-09 01:07:09 PM
Indianapolis and the areas to the north should be Midlands, not Appalachia. South of Indy, Gawd yes.
 
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