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(MSNBC)   Carter has his Habitat for Humanity. Clinton has his Global Initiative. GW Bush does fundraising for an apocalyptic evangelical group that wants money to convert Jews to Christianity so Jesus will come back   (msnbc.com) divider line 43
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2013-11-09 08:22:15 AM
9 votes:

enry: As a religious person that attends church weekly, this is a complete embarrassment to anyone of faith. Why want to be raptured if you already believe you're going to heaven when you die? I've watched a few documentaries about these kinds of people and it's just really strange seeing teenagers not have any long term plans because they expect to get raptured tomorrow. Or maybe the next day. They don't know when but it's soon. And to have people actively trying to bring this about are just sick in the head. On behalf of the non whackloons I apologize for this behavior.


Doesn't this run counter to every other belief they may hold? If you believe that you were created with a purpose, part of some great plan, then refusing to do anything with your life, talents and abilities is an affront to God and everything he had given you. And doesn't it also contradict an idea of an all-powerful, all-knowing God? When his hand can be forced by man's actions? Does God have a checklist for the apocalypse? "Well I was planning on going golfing today but it seems they finally got that last Jew. Peter, can you hold the fort? BRB"
2013-11-09 09:38:33 AM
6 votes:

kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.


Strange Story, Bro Time

We had this friend in high school, let's call him "Danny".  Danny was weird.  I mean, we were all weird, nerdy kids, but he was  weird.  This was an age before Columbine, so wearing all black with a black trench coat to school was just strange.  Ours was the table that played Magic: The Gathering at lunch.  Another of our friends was weird and nerdy, but his family was also very religious.  Danny was experimenting with Neo-Druidism, as an upper-middle-class 16-year-old is prone to do.

One day, our religious buddy asks Danny if he's ever known God.  I don't know what clicked in Danny's brain, but he suddenly gets real loud and says "GOD?  I KNOW GOD!"

(He was shouting this for all of the cafeteria to hear, but I don't feel like typing this in all caps.)

"God came to me, in the middle of the night one night, and he said 'Danny!', and I said 'God!', and he said 'Danny!', and I said 'God!', and he said 'Danny!',  and I said 'God!', and he said 'Danny...BEND OVER!', and I did, you know, because he was God...and that's when God anally raped me!!!  So yes, I can tell you that I have felt the lovin' of the Lord and I have felt God inside me!!!"

At that point, Danny sat down and continued to eat his square cardboard pizza.  About three-quarters of the student body in that cafeteria sat there with a mixture of horror and sheer "what the FARK just happened" on their faces, and about one-quarter of the kids were clutching their sides from laughter.
2013-11-09 08:28:06 AM
5 votes:

SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.


God isn't going to buttf*ck you.
2013-11-09 08:19:01 AM
4 votes:
This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.
2013-11-09 08:16:10 AM
4 votes:
the people who beilieve in rapture should be forced to buy insurance for the damage they will likely cause when they pop out
2013-11-09 08:03:02 AM
4 votes:
George W. Bush: The gift that keeps on giving.
2013-11-09 09:18:37 AM
3 votes:
"This is my son with whom I am well pleased." - Rand Paul
2013-11-09 08:33:07 AM
3 votes:

kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.


He would if you gave him half a chance. You and your whole family.
2013-11-09 03:00:27 PM
2 votes:
I don't get all these "Rapture" fanatics.  It's a great Blondie song, no doubt, but that was over 30 years ago.
Just let it go and find some new music.
2013-11-09 11:07:43 AM
2 votes:

Bartman66: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

THIS
AND from MSNBC... and it's anti Bush and Religion??? shocker.
funny but is this somehow a way to distract from what is going on now???
Now if Bush was going around the world promoting this on a daily basis like carter and not just attending an event than maybe this might have something to cry about.... otherwise..meh.


Carter walked around every day promoting the end of the world? You must have taken an entirely different U.S. history class than everybody else in the history of ever.
2013-11-09 10:27:56 AM
2 votes:
"Apocalypse" doesn't mean "end of the world".  It means "revelation".  You can have an apocalypse about the ingredients in three-bean salad.  Hint:  there are three beans in it.
2013-11-09 09:29:22 AM
2 votes:
Jews for Jesus?

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/How about Buddhism?
2013-11-09 09:10:14 AM
2 votes:
It's a very worthwhile cause. I hope he still has the Mission Accomplished banner for when Our Lord returns.
2013-11-09 09:02:57 AM
2 votes:
The weaponized gospel of Jesus.
2013-11-09 11:58:06 PM
1 votes:

enry: IIRC he's Episcopal, which I find to be one of the 'saner' ones


Episcopalians allow gay clergy and aren't creationists.  I seriously doubt GWB is an Episcopalian.
2013-11-09 03:26:27 PM
1 votes:
Did anyone ever notice how W didn't seem to age at the typical rate of a modern US President (like 2 or 3 times faster than most people)?

It's like that deep responsibility wears down at a man on some intrinsic level, except that Bush never really felt responsibility in his position.

Looking at him now, it's starting to catch up with him. I hope this indicates some stress on his part over the mounting realization that his presidency was an awful blight to our country.

Our else just that he no longer possesses the One Ring.
2013-11-09 01:26:27 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.

He would if you gave him half a chance. You and your whole family.


Settle down, Job. You're speaking crazy.
2013-11-09 01:07:46 PM
1 votes:
Bartman66:
Now if Bush was going around the world promoting this on a daily basis like carter and not just attending an event than maybe this might have something to cry about.... otherwise..meh.

Absolutely.  I mean, it's like when you just rape one girl, and everybody acts like you're a serial rapist.  Stupid libs.
2013-11-09 12:20:14 PM
1 votes:

Fuggin Bizzy: The My Little Pony Killer: We already know that GW Bush is retarded though.

"I read this, and you give me a bag of money? Okay, then."


Bush being talked into making a poorly researched, impulsive decision that he doesn't quite understand, based merely on its financial benefits, without considering its long-term ramifications?  Hmm, where have I heard that before?
2013-11-09 12:05:58 PM
1 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: That's the point of the Rapture. The saved are taken up bodily, the rest are left to fight out apocalypse in the end of days. The characters in the Left Behind series aren't the elect, they are the ones worth saving who still have work to do, and must fight Satan on earth.


Which is why Republicans are such shiatty human beings and love guns and ammo so much.

They have to be just shiatty enough to be left behind so they can pump Satan full of lead.
2013-11-09 11:55:08 AM
1 votes:
if Jesus actually came back i feel like the first thing he'd do is tell all the religious extremists in the world to fark off
2013-11-09 11:38:25 AM
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-11-09 11:16:25 AM
1 votes:

kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.


No, but Father Tim might.
2013-11-09 11:01:02 AM
1 votes:
Well, this atheist is interested in the "spiritual matters"  I do not comprehend.  Could you list some of them please so I may study them.
2013-11-09 10:33:07 AM
1 votes:

spmkk: subby: If you find yourself having to resort to, "All hail the great Carter!" to lay the groundwork for your "This makes Bush a crazy religious extremist" case, it's a pretty good indication that your case might not have a lot of merit.


I'm curious as to which other living, non-wheelchair-bound, former president you think he should have chosen instead of Carter to make a direct apples-to-apples comparison to Bush's post-presidency activities?
2013-11-09 10:31:36 AM
1 votes:

enry: it's really strange seeing teenagers people not have any long term plans because they expect to get raptured tomorrow. Or maybe the next day. They don't know when but it's soon.


I went to this "church" for a bit where the "pastor" (no church, no education, no real credentials...just the guy we followed for some reason) and his wife went out and charged something like $15,000 of new furniture that they had no way to pay for. When asked "How in the hell are you going to pay for all that?" he answered in seriousness "It's not going to be an issue. Jesus is coming back before the bill will come due.

This happened in 1984. Heh.
2013-11-09 10:13:59 AM
1 votes:

kronicfeld: Eh. I don't like anyone involved in this, but I don't really think that's the case. Like a lot of paid speakers, I doubt he has anything at all to do with the booking, and doesn't know who his audience is until the engagement is immediately on the horizon.


And like most booking agents, I don't think Dubya's looked all that closely at where the money was coming from before accepting the booking. He/she saw "christian group" and left it at that.
2013-11-09 10:13:48 AM
1 votes:

enry: As a religious person that attends church weekly, this is a complete embarrassment to anyone of faith. Why want to be raptured if you already believe you're going to heaven when you die? I've watched a few documentaries about these kinds of people and it's just really strange seeing teenagers not have any long term plans because they expect to get raptured tomorrow. Or maybe the next day. They don't know when but it's soon. And to have people actively trying to bring this about are just sick in the head. On behalf of the non whackloons I apologize for this behavior.


Hey! There's no place for that kind of moderation here on Fark.
2013-11-09 09:38:43 AM
1 votes:
Believing that the world is coming to an end is one thing, but looking forward to it and doing anything you can to hasten it is particularly  twisted. Also important to mention that when some of them warn about "Gods wrath" what they mean is "Bubbas gunna shoot them quars with his ol' 12 gauge once the mean ol guberment stops interferin with his constituional rights".
2013-11-09 09:23:53 AM
1 votes:
"hi, i'm george w. bush."

-- rand paul
2013-11-09 09:19:42 AM
1 votes:
"Life was filled with guns and war
And all of us got trampled on the floor
I wish we'd all been ready
Children died the days grew cold
A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
I wish we'd all been ready "

-- Rand Paul
2013-11-09 09:06:12 AM
1 votes:

CheatCommando: mamoru: Because they think they'll be able to avoid responsibility for the stupid decisions they are making or have made? Though, for many of the ones doing fundraising and pulling money out of it, I imagine it's more about fleecing the rubes than about any belief that the Rapture is an actual thing.

As Ron Hubbard Rand Paul supposedly said, if you want to get really filthy rich, you have to start a religion.

2013-11-09 08:54:28 AM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Is this one of those things where the group paid Bush to speak and now everyone thinks he automatically thinks and believes everything the group believes?


Is this one of those things where being an intellectual whore is somehow better than sharing the beliefs of the group being spoken to?
2013-11-09 08:53:22 AM
1 votes:

mamoru: enry: Why want to be raptured if you already believe you're going to heaven when you die?

Because they think they'll be able to avoid responsibility for the stupid decisions they are making or have made? Though, for many of the ones doing fundraising and pulling money out of it, I imagine it's more about fleecing the rubes than about any belief that the Rapture is an actual thing.


I think it was Jesus Camp I was watching that had some of this.  They were going to Israel and giving money to Jews there.  When someone asked the rabbis about it, they said (in effect) "If they're dumb enough to give us money, we'll still take it".

But yeah, I bet there's a lot of fleecing going on, which makes it doubly sad.  I have faith some of these dumbasses who are preaching about hellfire and damnation get to experience it firsthand.
2013-11-09 08:52:50 AM
1 votes:
well, i for one am glad that this apocalyptic zealot was in charge of the nuclear launch codes for eight years!
2013-11-09 08:49:47 AM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Is this one of those things where the group paid Bush to speak and now everyone thinks he automatically thinks and believes everything the group believes?


They're both evil, each tainting each other in new ways.  One destroyed Iraq, the other's trying to destroy Everything.
2013-11-09 08:40:44 AM
1 votes:

dstrick44: kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.

Yes he is.
Hard and deep.
He buttf#@ks all of his followers eventually.

Isn't that right, Job?


Naw, he'll just get one of his priests to buttf*ck you.
2013-11-09 08:37:31 AM
1 votes:

kronicfeld: SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.

God isn't going to buttf*ck you.


Yes he is.
Hard and deep.
He buttf#@ks all of his followers eventually.

Isn't that right, Job?
2013-11-09 08:33:45 AM
1 votes:
I thought the talking points were that GWB was a dirty liberal.
2013-11-09 08:32:44 AM
1 votes:
Because electing people who think the world is ending will surely set things up nicely for your grandchildren.

/idiots
2013-11-09 08:31:34 AM
1 votes:

Vacation Bible School: Doesn't this run counter to every other belief they may hold? If you believe that you were created with a purpose, part of some great plan, then refusing to do anything with your life, talents and abilities is an affront to God and everything he had given you. And doesn't it also contradict an idea of an all-powerful, all-knowing God? When his hand can be forced by man's actions?


Stop trying to apply any kind of logic to Calvinism.
2013-11-09 08:30:49 AM
1 votes:
When you're actively trying to bring about the End of the World, you need a new hobby.  (to put it very politely)
2013-11-09 08:25:17 AM
1 votes:

SauronWasFramed: This thread should be exciting.  It will be filled with comments from atheists, agnostics, and liberals that have zero comprehension of spiritual matters commenting about an article from a site that cites Mother Jones about a speech Bush was likely paid big money to attend.


Probably. It's not like there is much of anything to comprehend. The word "spiritual", when translated from Phoney into English, translates as "some nothing that I want to sell you as something" - or, for that matter, pretty much anything else you want it to mean.
And Fark, of course, is heavily infested with curmudgeons who don't suffer anybody gladly.
So, there you are.
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