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2013-11-09 08:54:08 AM  
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THANKS CAP'N ANECDOTE!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-09 09:21:35 AM  
Very similarly, when margarine was introduced during World War II, consumers had a hard time relating it to butter (for obvious reasons!), so dye was included in the bags of margarine, which the consumer worked in themselves after their purchase.

We've had some Fark threads on this subject:

Quebec has a ban against yellow margarine

In Quebec, by legal decree
Margarine was as white as could be
But now they're more mellow
And allow the bright yellow
Habitants can now spread the glee
.

It's been five years so we're due another.
 
2013-11-09 09:54:52 AM  
I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.
 
2013-11-09 10:46:03 AM  
I can't stand "articles" that end with an exclamation point!
 
2013-11-09 11:52:01 AM  

brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.


We've got a runner in sector 180939.
Yes that's right we have a consumer that doesn't believe that what is cheap to produce isn't also good for her.
To the re-education camps.
 
2013-11-09 11:52:38 AM  
I always assumed it was dyed yellow so you could find it in the dark.
 
2013-11-09 11:55:08 AM  

brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.


American cheese was first perfected and made available to the public in response to the great earwax shortage of 1917.
 
2013-11-09 11:55:29 AM  
The same reason they dye fish pink.

Because fark you.
 
2013-11-09 11:58:31 AM  
My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'. I imagine they didn't separate the fat and the cows were mostly grass fed. That butter was white.
 
2013-11-09 11:59:31 AM  

FloydA: brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.

American cheese was first perfected and made available to the public in response to the great earwax shortage of 1917.


Real cheddar doesn't melt that well.  I'm talking cheddar that when you eat it, you can feel it in your jowls.  Cheddar you are buying to melt on a grilled cheese sandwich isn't much different than American cheese.

Oh, and why is colby and some cheddar cheese yellow?

What flavor is yellow?
 
2013-11-09 12:00:16 PM  
i guess reverse psychology had an effect on me - i now think of white cheese as the better kind, and haven't bought anything dyed yellow in forever
 
2013-11-09 12:01:13 PM  
I remain happy making my own.
 
2013-11-09 12:05:24 PM  

oldwolf49: I remain happy making my own.


What kind do you make?  I find this fascinating.

/Serious
 
2013-11-09 12:05:38 PM  

SpdrJay: I always assumed it was dyed yellow so you could find it in the dark.


in the dark what?
 
2013-11-09 12:08:05 PM  
That was absolutely sh*te writing. F*ck off MNN!
 
2013-11-09 12:11:52 PM  

brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time...


I worked at a deli for several years, and I always had difficulty with the idea of "yellow" and "white" being the descriptors of American cheese. To me, this:

thumbs.ifood.tv

is orange, not yellow. And this:

www.themontyminute.com

is more yellow than white.
 
2013-11-09 12:12:54 PM  
I imagine that consistency was also a concern. Cows fed on winter forage such as hay produce whiter milk, so to keep the cheese the same colour, they started to dye the milk. As McDonald's proved long ago, people value consistency over quality.
 
2013-11-09 12:14:42 PM  
I buy my milk from a dairy that doesn't homogenize and uses grass fed cows during the summer months. The milk is noticeably a creamier color than regular whole milk from the store. I can also tell when they switch the cows to hay during the winter months.
 
2013-11-09 12:16:02 PM  
Broktun:
Oh, and why is colby and some cheddar cheese yellow?

Actual Answer: The color of cheese made from the milk of one cow will vary throughout the year depending on what the cow is eating.   If you're pasturing cows on grass, they get a lot of beta carotene which ends up in the milk, which turns yellow when bacteria, rennet, and heat break down the protein coat surrounding the fat globules that contain the beta carotene. If you're feeding cows hay, there's less beta carotene, so you get white or off-white cheese.

Most store bought yellow cheese is dyed for standardization, so that consumers don't stand there in the cheese aisle wondering why cheddar was yellow last month and it's white now, and then complaining about it to the manager because they don't know cows or chemistry.

(Mom's from Wisconsin - you pick this stuff up, you know.  :-)


What flavor is yellow?

The opposite of purple flavor, of course.  If you eat yellow cheese and drink purple drink, they cancel each other out.
 
2013-11-09 12:17:26 PM  
I miss the red dyed pistachios.  Except that my red fingers would stain the onions when it was time to switch them out on my belt, as was the fashion of the time.

www.nuts.com
 
2013-11-09 12:18:01 PM  

brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.


Most "American Cheese" is oil with some milk and dye.

My parents never bought it and when I tried it as an adult I almost barf.
 
2013-11-09 12:18:10 PM  
I buy white American cheese from the deli.  I think it tastes different.  I also prefer white cheddar, but that's because it's a really good cheese.
 
2013-11-09 12:19:49 PM  
When I was a kid, our teacher did a demonstration in school where we took whole cream in a mason jar and shook it until it made butter.  The butter was slightly yellow.  Took a long damn time.
 
2013-11-09 12:20:34 PM  
I buy a pack of those individually wrapped Kraft American cheese-product slices about once a year or so and go on a grilled cheese sandwich binge. Just like mom used to make.

You know what makes mine way better than yours?

www.spiceplace.com

Sprinkle some on the buttered bread before you grill it.
 
2013-11-09 12:21:38 PM  

FloydA: Broktun:
Oh, and why is colby and some cheddar cheese yellow?

Actual Answer: The color of cheese made from the milk of one cow will vary throughout the year depending on what the cow is eating.   If you're pasturing cows on grass, they get a lot of beta carotene which ends up in the milk, which turns yellow when bacteria, rennet, and heat break down the protein coat surrounding the fat globules that contain the beta carotene. If you're feeding cows hay, there's less beta carotene, so you get white or off-white cheese.

Most store bought yellow cheese is dyed for standardization, so that consumers don't stand there in the cheese aisle wondering why cheddar was yellow last month and it's white now, and then complaining about it to the manager because they don't know cows or chemistry.

(Mom's from Wisconsin - you pick this stuff up, you know.  :-)


What flavor is yellow?

The opposite of purple flavor, of course.  If you eat yellow cheese and drink purple drink, they cancel each other out.


The opposite of yellow is blue
 
2013-11-09 12:22:01 PM  

shortymac: brigid_fitch: I had a revelation while standing at the deli counter one day.  Land O' Lakes American cheese was on sale and everyone was on line buying it.  After hearing the guy behind the counter ask each person "yellow or white" every time, it dawned on me:  What the hell flavor is yellow?  Why am I eating this crap?  Looked it up online and found that American Cheese started out as a Colby/Cheddar blend but is now so processed it really can't be called cheese.  Screw that--I can buy colby & cheddar myself and make way better grilled cheese than Land O Lakes stuff.

Most "American Cheese" is oil with some milk and dye.

My parents never bought it and when I tried it as an adult I almost barf.


To be fair, my mom never "bought" it either.

4.bp.blogspot.com

/and no, I wasn't around in 1954.  But the packaging in the 80s was similar.
 
2013-11-09 12:22:03 PM  

brantgoose: I imagine that consistency was also a concern. Cows fed on winter forage such as hay produce whiter milk, so to keep the cheese the same colour, they started to dye the milk. As McDonald's proved long ago, people value consistency over quality.


It's also well known that people "taste" with their eyes. We are basically preprogrammed to prefer things with brighter colors. Hell it doesn't even have to be the food these days, it could just be the picture on the package.

I'm sure a study has been done, but I'll bet you can change people's perception of taste quality just by the way the room is decorated.
 
2013-11-09 12:22:44 PM  
If you've ever wondered....why cheese was originally dyed yellow

I'd cop to giving edam if I earned some cheddar for it, subby.
 
2013-11-09 12:22:44 PM  

brantgoose: I imagine that consistency was also a concern. Cows fed on winter forage such as hay produce whiter milk, so to keep the cheese the same colour, they started to dye the milk. As McDonald's proved long ago, people value consistency over quality.


Consistency is a quality.
 
2013-11-09 12:22:56 PM  

chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:
Oh, and why is colby and some cheddar cheese yellow?

Actual Answer: The color of cheese made from the milk of one cow will vary throughout the year depending on what the cow is eating.   If you're pasturing cows on grass, they get a lot of beta carotene which ends up in the milk, which turns yellow when bacteria, rennet, and heat break down the protein coat surrounding the fat globules that contain the beta carotene. If you're feeding cows hay, there's less beta carotene, so you get white or off-white cheese.

Most store bought yellow cheese is dyed for standardization, so that consumers don't stand there in the cheese aisle wondering why cheddar was yellow last month and it's white now, and then complaining about it to the manager because they don't know cows or chemistry.

(Mom's from Wisconsin - you pick this stuff up, you know.  :-)


What flavor is yellow?

The opposite of purple flavor, of course.  If you eat yellow cheese and drink purple drink, they cancel each other out.

The opposite of yellow is blue


You're just going to lie like that? On the internet?
 
2013-11-09 12:23:03 PM  
chitownmike:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Incorrect.
 
2013-11-09 12:32:24 PM  

chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:
Oh, and why is colby and some cheddar cheese yellow?

Actual Answer: The color of cheese made from the milk of one cow will vary throughout the year depending on what the cow is eating.   If you're pasturing cows on grass, they get a lot of beta carotene which ends up in the milk, which turns yellow when bacteria, rennet, and heat break down the protein coat surrounding the fat globules that contain the beta carotene. If you're feeding cows hay, there's less beta carotene, so you get white or off-white cheese.

Most store bought yellow cheese is dyed for standardization, so that consumers don't stand there in the cheese aisle wondering why cheddar was yellow last month and it's white now, and then complaining about it to the manager because they don't know cows or chemistry.

(Mom's from Wisconsin - you pick this stuff up, you know.  :-)


What flavor is yellow?

The opposite of purple flavor, of course.  If you eat yellow cheese and drink purple drink, they cancel each other out.

The opposite of yellow is blue


Ok everyone, let's make fun of this guy.
 
Ant
2013-11-09 12:33:50 PM  
Aside from cupcake frosting or hard candy, I have no idea why any food is dyed. Just eat the damn food in its natural color. Even in the case of frosting, why not just make it with an ingredient that will give you the color you want? Want pink? Use strawberries in the frosting. Purple? Use blueberries.
 
2013-11-09 12:35:03 PM  

sxacho: chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:

The opposite of yellow is blue

You're just going to lie like that? On the internet?


underwhere: chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Ok everyone, let's make fun of this guy.



tuna fingers: chitownmike:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Incorrect.


Awww shiat, color fight!
/are we talking paint or light?
 
Ant
2013-11-09 12:35:54 PM  

tuna fingers: I miss the red dyed pistachios.


WTF was up with that anyway?
 
2013-11-09 12:35:55 PM  
I have often wondered why a lot of food is dyed. It's idiotic.
 
Ant
2013-11-09 12:37:08 PM  

tuna fingers: chitownmike:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Incorrect.


Cyan

In photo processing, anyway.
 
2013-11-09 12:38:51 PM  

sxacho: I buy a pack of those individually wrapped Kraft American cheese-product slices about once a year or so and go on a grilled cheese sandwich binge. Just like mom used to make.

You know what makes mine way better than yours?



Sprinkle some on the buttered bread before you grill it.


False. Everyone knows superior grilled cheese sandwiches are made with Velvetta and Texas toast. I will concede your seasoning is interesting and will try it my next comfort food go-around.
 
2013-11-09 12:40:46 PM  

wellreadneck: My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'. I imagine they didn't separate the fat and the cows were mostly grass fed. That butter was white.


Well that settles it.
 
2013-11-09 12:44:57 PM  

Mouren: sxacho: chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:

The opposite of yellow is blue

You're just going to lie like that? On the internet?

underwhere: chitownmike: FloydA: Broktun:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Ok everyone, let's make fun of this guy.


tuna fingers: chitownmike:

The opposite of yellow is blue

Incorrect.

Awww shiat, color fight!
/are we talking paint or light?


If we're talking paint, the opposite of yellow is purple, the opposite of blue is orange.
 
2013-11-09 12:46:45 PM  

wellreadneck: My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-09 12:47:54 PM  

walkerhound: wellreadneck: My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'. I imagine they didn't separate the fat and the cows were mostly grass fed. That butter was white.

Well that settles it.


Yep. I just burned my chemistry book.
 
2013-11-09 12:49:08 PM  
Processed cheese is the biggest waste, don't buy it.  It's like buying bruscetta at a restaurant, oh yummy $12 for some bread, tomatoes and basil.  All processed cheese is mostly oil, water, some dairy powder and emulsifiers to hold it all together.  Just buy the real stuff.
 
2013-11-09 12:58:29 PM  

LeroyBourne: Processed cheese is the biggest waste, don't buy it.  It's like buying bruscetta at a restaurant, oh yummy $12 for some bread, tomatoes and basil.  All processed cheese is mostly oil, water, some dairy powder and emulsifiers to hold it all together.  Just buy the real stuff.


Plus it tastes gross.
 
2013-11-09 01:06:17 PM  

peacheslatour: LeroyBourne: Processed cheese is the biggest waste, don't buy it.  It's like buying bruscetta at a restaurant, oh yummy $12 for some bread, tomatoes and basil.  All processed cheese is mostly oil, water, some dairy powder and emulsifiers to hold it all together.  Just buy the real stuff.

Plus it tastes gross.


I use to work at LoL.  There were 'give aways', I knew what was in the shiat, so I didn't eat it.  One day they were giving 5 lb bags of nacho cheese sauce, like the stuff you'd get in high school, so good, well it's all oil, no shiat it tastes good.  I would go to a friends house during foot ball.  Ask if I can use their crock pot, toss the whole bag in there, turn it on, place a bowl of chips out and just watch people gravitate to the yummy oily cheese sauce.
/ish
 
2013-11-09 01:23:41 PM  

HighZoolander: walkerhound: wellreadneck: My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'. I imagine they didn't separate the fat and the cows were mostly grass fed. That butter was white.

Well that settles it.

Yep. I just burned my chemistry book.


Obviously bluegrass makes white butter, kinda like laundry.
 
2013-11-09 01:28:58 PM  
American cheese melts so perfectly on a hamburger, or grilled-cheese. It doesn't seperate when it melts.
 
2013-11-09 01:33:10 PM  

LeroyBourne: Processed cheese is the biggest waste, don't buy it.  It's like buying bruscetta at a restaurant, oh yummy $12 for some bread, tomatoes and basil.  All processed cheese is mostly oil, water, some dairy powder and emulsifiers to hold it all together.  Just buy the real stuff.


At least at a restaurant I'm paying for the labor.  Yes, I can make bruschetta at home, but there are times I want someone else to do it while I drink my Chianti and talk to friends.  So I'm paying Guiseppe in the kitchen to do the toasting and the chopping et cetera.
 
2013-11-09 01:58:03 PM  

wellreadneck: HighZoolander: walkerhound: wellreadneck: My grandparents made what they called 'cow butter'. I imagine they didn't separate the fat and the cows were mostly grass fed. That butter was white.

Well that settles it.

Yep. I just burned my chemistry book.

Obviously bluegrass makes white butter, kinda like laundry.


well if your laundry is making white butter for you, I don't even know what to say.
 
2013-11-09 01:58:28 PM  
Very similarly, when margarine was introduced during World War II, consumers had a hard time relating it to butter (for obvious reasons!), so dye was included in the bags of margarine, which the consumer worked in themselves after their purchase.

And, interestingly enough, that separate process was the result of the dairy lobby getting laws passed prohibiting the dyeing of margarine in order to keep it looking unpalatable. The margarine makers got around that by including the dye separately.
 
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