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(The Register)   The world's first gun 3D printed in metal. It's more accurate than factory made guns, especially in the hands of a convicted felon who hears voices   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 162
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2013-11-09 06:42:29 PM  
I, for one, am shocked that high precision machining results in machines done to a high degree of precision.
 
2013-11-09 08:55:13 PM  
So can this printer take "cartridges" for different metals?

I'm thinking stainless steel, aluminum, copper, plutonium-239, beryllium, should about cover it.
 
2013-11-09 11:30:13 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: As someone who just installed a Crimson Trace laser sight on my Glock 23, I would bet I have better accuracy for $750 (gun and sight) than a 3-d printed 1911, for a third the price.

It is like buying a Macbook.


They shot a damn tight group in the video, better than I usually manage. I carried a Glock 23 for a few years and always shot expert with it, but that shooter with the printed 1911 had a better group than I usually managed.
 
2013-11-10 03:44:42 AM  

Turbo Cojones: cirby: sammyk:
Or you could just go to a gun show and buy pretty much anything you want without a background check for much cheaper.

No, you really can't.

You can buy all sorts of different firearms at a gun show, but that "without a background check" part is just plain false.

Why do people cling to the belief that private gun sellers at gun shows run background checks?  Cash is King, and none of them give a crap what on plan on doing with that gun later.

If you'd like an education, call one of THESE http://thriftynickelpensacola.com/ad-category-pensacola-fl- thrifty-nic kel/sporting-goods-thrifty-nickel-pensacola-fl-classifieds/ clowns and educate yourself.

This is why it' called the "gun show loophole", and it's a perfect venue for ineligible people to acquire their guns.


There is no gun show loophole.  It doesn't exist, it never has, it's not real.

In most states, private sales are legal.  But that has NOTHING to do with gun shows.  There is no gun show loophole.

You see, gun shows are populated with dealers.  Dealers have to do background checks on every sale, being at a gun show changes nothing.  There is no gun show loophole.

Private sales by non-dealers are different.  In most states, it's actually impossible for a private seller to do a background check.  A private sale can happen anywhere.  There is no gun show loophole.

I apologize to the sane people here, I know it's annoying to read the same thing over and over again, but when the myth keeps coming up, perhaps repetition will get it through their idiot heads.  There is no gun show loophole.

/There is no gun show loophole.
//There is no gun show loophole.
///There is no gun show loophole.
///There is no gun show loophole.
 
2013-11-10 03:49:38 AM  
3d printers will revolutionize the human condition.

In 2142, when the ban caused by "3d gun printing" is lifted
 
2013-11-10 04:29:49 AM  
Z-clipped:
No. People don't like QA, because he says things they don't want to hear, in ways they don't like to hear them. But about the two subjects that he compulsively harps on, he's generally correct most of the time.

What QA consistently fails to address is that people are excited about additive manufacturing because it significantly simplifies the logistics of supply chains by virtue of a) using relatively generic feedstocks instead of a multitude of parts, b) flexibility through very low setup costs and c) using way less materials. Yes, it is more expensive right now and maybe even with lower quality. That is not the point and he is missing it consistently in an assholish way.
 
2013-11-10 05:41:16 AM  
I'm not of the flip-out anti-gun type, but how much would a computer with the processing power of an iPhone have cost 25 years ago?

The technology will come.
 
2013-11-10 07:51:54 AM  

AngryDragon: Exactly.  It's not the law-abiding that are illegally or unethically transferring firearms.  I know I would want a firearm registered to me, sold for a couple hundred quick bucks and no paperwork, to be used in a felony.  I'm certain the UFIA treatment that would follow would be totally worth it.


Why would anybody have firearms registered to them?

I guess that's your state.  Around here, I can walk into a gun shop, and walk out with whatever firearms I want, and as long as they are not Class III weapons there's no registry or permits required, provided they pass the NICS check.

Frankly, the idea of having to register firearms to a person is scary and Orwellian as far as I'm concerned.
 
2013-11-10 08:03:57 AM  

Silverstaff: I guess that's your state. Around here, I can walk into a gun shop, and walk out with whatever firearms I want, and as long as they are not Class III weapons there's no registry or permits required, provided they pass the NICS check.

Frankly, the idea of having to register firearms to a person is scary and Orwellian as far as I'm concerned.


So do I, so imagine my shock when the State Police of my non-registration state (PA) gave me a list of every firearm I own along with the previous owners when a "discrepancy" came up on my .45.

They know what you have, citizen, registration or not. Sweet dreams.
 
2013-11-10 08:36:15 AM  

Silverstaff: AngryDragon: Exactly.  It's not the law-abiding that are illegally or unethically transferring firearms.  I know I would want a firearm registered to me, sold for a couple hundred quick bucks and no paperwork, to be used in a felony.  I'm certain the UFIA treatment that would follow would be totally worth it.

Why would anybody have firearms registered to them?

I guess that's your state.  Around here, I can walk into a gun shop, and walk out with whatever firearms I want, and as long as they are not Class III weapons there's no registry or permits required, provided they pass the NICS check.

Frankly, the idea of having to register firearms to a person is scary and Orwellian as far as I'm concerned.


No disagreement from me.  Unfortunately that's not reality in many jurisdictions.
 
2013-11-10 09:41:30 AM  

Z-clipped: If there's one lesson to be learned from Fark, it's that being an asshole and being correct aren't mutually exclusive

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One extremely basic fact of life that few people ever learn is that life is not a popularity contest.

Another is that brilliant people can be very wrong sometimes, and sometimes even amazingly stupid. E.g., Nietzsche on politics.

As for tying a person to a firearm, whether upfront through registration or underhandedly as Adolf Oliver Nipples said, that's one reason I'd hesitate to sell a firearm to someone who I didn't just see pass a licensed dealer's NICS: I'd want to be able to prove that that firearm was a) no longer mine and b) was not knowingly transferred to someone who the FBI says should not own one.

At the very least I'd want the buyer to sign a document that should absolve me of any culpability. Let the obvious crook steal one from your car at night instead. (Hint: after you've seen cars with broken out windows all over town don't leave anything in your car you wouldn't freely give to any total stranger; this is another basic fact most people cannot learn.)

This does not mean that everybody who is not legally allowed to own or buy a firearm cannot be trusted with one, or even that s/he would not betray me by not using the gun obtained from me for an illegal purpose (as in "I think I'll rob that gas station with the gun I stole from that Corvette instead"), only that the government is a very big and nosy gorilla. Whose dictates sometimes make sense and sometimes don't, and are always "enforceable" at gunpoint. (Does anybody believe that every law enforcement officer should have a firearm? Can you say "Rampart?")

As for NICS and gun shows, the Wikipedia article on NICS says this:

"The National Instant Criminal Background Check System is applicable to sales from federally licensed dealers. Sales of firearms by private sellers are allowed to proceed without a background check unless required by state law. These regulations remain in place at gun shows, where no special leniency is granted to licensed sellers, and no additional requirements are placed upon private sellers."

Additional information about NICS is available from the FBI through such channels as this link here.
 
2013-11-10 11:47:35 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Fubini: That said, handguns have been "accurate enough" for most uses for about 100 years or so now, so maybe it's all moot.

Luddite. We have now reached the point where we can reproduce 19th century technology in a much more complex, expensive and resource-intensive way than before.

If that isn't the future you want to live in, well then I suggest you grab the next Virgin Galactic Space Ship to Moon Colony Gingrich.


I want to, I really really do...
 
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