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(The Atlantic)   A breakdown of states that put restrictions on "navigators" funded by the ACA that keep them from giving people their best health insurance options available. Hmm, wonder what these states could all have in common   (theatlantic.com) divider line 77
    More: Obvious, obamacare, health insurance, information needs, Commonwealth Fund, John McDonough, Garance Franke-Ruta  
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2013-11-08 11:32:33 AM  
Color me not surprised.

/Red, as far as the eye can see...
 
2013-11-08 11:34:49 AM  
The GOP made decisions that adversely effect their loyal electorate (who will, no doubt, blame this on everyone but their elected Republican Representatives)?  Unthinkable.
 
2013-11-08 11:41:28 AM  
So they couldn't stop it from becoming law. The Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality. The president was reelected because of it. They couldn't repeal it after forty attempts. Shutting down the government for over two weeks couldn't stop it. But now we won't even help you learn about how it could benefit you!

Eventually you'd think that people will realize that the Republican party is running on petty spite at this point. Sure the tea party types love it, but I can't imagine this parade of "neener neener, libs" is playing well to anyone still identifying as a Republican who doesn't actively hate everyone in the country who isn't exactly like them.
 
2013-11-08 11:59:08 AM  
"The voluntary individual enrollments went much pokier. "

Quoi?
 
2013-11-08 12:12:10 PM  
iowa is a blue state with a red governor. i'm hoping that he'll be thrown out on his ass in 2014.
 
2013-11-08 12:43:53 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-08 12:47:10 PM  

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 492x640]


Snidely Whiplash has spent a little too much time in Canada to get out of a Republican primary. My money's on the Dastardly/Muttley ticket.
 
2013-11-08 12:54:08 PM  

Cagey B: FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 492x640]

Snidely Whiplash has spent a little too much time in Canada to get out of a Republican primary.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-08 12:54:17 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: "The voluntary individual enrollments went much pokier. "

Quoi?


Creo que significa "mas despacio".

/gutentag
 
2013-11-08 01:07:27 PM  
That's what you can do if your base has a "Stand by Your Man" outlook.
 
2013-11-08 01:07:35 PM  
farking subhuman pieces of shiat
 
2013-11-08 01:09:34 PM  
Sigh.  This is right up the alley with my complaint about Medicaid.  I understand that a state might have a better grasp on the needs of their populace than across the board federal mandates, but when the local administration comes from people who don't WANT the program to succeed, it will never be done well.
 
2013-11-08 01:09:54 PM  
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2013-11-08 01:11:00 PM  
Yay, Ohio made the list. A Purpleish state with a Republican Governor and House/Senate that just rubberstamps whatever the Kock bros want pushed through.
 
2013-11-08 01:11:45 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So they couldn't stop it from becoming law. The Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality. The president was reelected because of it. They couldn't repeal it after forty attempts. Shutting down the government for over two weeks couldn't stop it. But now we won't even help you learn about how it could benefit you!

Eventually you'd think that people will realize that the Republican party is running on petty spite at this point. Sure the tea party types love it, but I can't imagine this parade of "neener neener, libs" is playing well to anyone still identifying as a Republican who doesn't actively hate everyone in the country who isn't exactly like them.


THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS



We'll see if they're dumb enough to pull the same shiat in January. If they do, it's pitchforks and torches time. EVERYBODY I know, Republicans and Democrats are VERY pissed-off with the tea-tards.

/cruz/paul/rubio are done in politics
 
2013-11-08 01:12:04 PM  
Republicans in Congress, in governor's mansions, and in state legislatures actively sabotaged the implementation of ObamaCare for years. And now they're biatching that the law isn't performing perfectly. Is there a stronger word than chutzpah?
 
2013-11-08 01:12:16 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So they couldn't stop it from becoming law. The Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality. The president was reelected because of it. They couldn't repeal it after forty attempts. Shutting down the government for over two weeks couldn't stop it. But now we won't even help you learn about how it could benefit you!

Eventually you'd think that people will realize that the Republican party is running on petty spite at this point. Sure the tea party types love it, but I can't imagine this parade of "neener neener, libs" is playing well to anyone still identifying as a Republican who doesn't actively hate everyone in the country who isn't exactly like them.


If they can keep people from signing up for Obamacare, they can point to its failure by pointing out that Obamacare didn't get people signed up like was promised, while leaving out the part about how they actively worked toward that goal.  And people will believe it.
 
2013-11-08 01:12:17 PM  
"We need to throw this water hose away."

"Why?"

"It's not working properly. The water doesn't flow freely and it sprays everywhere. This wasted water is raising our water bill."

"But...you're stepping on the hose"
 
2013-11-08 01:14:39 PM  
Yeah I saw this on the local news before the rollout...I hate living in the South, politically. But I love the weather so I'm conflicted
 
2013-11-08 01:15:00 PM  
This pisses me off so much, and I am lucky enough to have fantastic insurance on the cheap already.
 
2013-11-08 01:16:37 PM  
Say government doesn't work, it's broken, it doesn't and can't do anything for anyone.
Run for political offices, without the slightest hint of self-awareness.
Do everything in your power to impede and break government from doing anything for anyone*.
Point to the wreckage and say "See, I told you government doesn't work."
Run for re-election.

/*except for the military**
//**unless it means spending money on healing veterans who have sacrificed because of you***
///***slashies come in threes
 
2013-11-08 01:17:01 PM  
wonder what these states could all have in common

//punchable faces in charge
 
2013-11-08 01:17:05 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: "We need to throw this water hose away."

"Why?"

"It's not working properly. The water doesn't flow freely and it sprays everywhere. This wasted water is raising our water bill."

"But...you're stepping on the hose"


Pretty much sums it up. It's like a domestic version of the whole Benghazi derpfest. There may be, nay, there are likely, actual, valid criticisms and problems to be addressed here, but the GOP has again buried the topic in so much complete and utter bullshiat that it's no longer possible to sort out what actually didn't work because it wasn't done right and what didn't work because it was intentionally sabotaged.

So, again, we had an opportunity to learn from errors and fix them, but because the GOP couldn't help but burn the whole thing to the ground first that opportunity is now long gone.

Farking idiots.
 
2013-11-08 01:22:52 PM  

skozlaw: DROxINxTHExWIND: "We need to throw this water hose away."

"Why?"

"It's not working properly. The water doesn't flow freely and it sprays everywhere. This wasted water is raising our water bill."

"But...you're stepping on the hose"

Pretty much sums it up. It's like a domestic version of the whole Benghazi derpfest. There may be, nay, there are likely, actual, valid criticisms and problems to be addressed here, but the GOP has again buried the topic in so much complete and utter bullshiat that it's no longer possible to sort out what actually didn't work because it wasn't done right and what didn't work because it was intentionally sabotaged.

So, again, we had an opportunity to learn from errors and fix them, but because the GOP couldn't help but burn the whole thing to the ground first that opportunity is now long gone.

Farking idiots.


You know how Spinal Tap had amplifiers that went all the way up to 11? The Republicans think that there's absolutely no reason for those amps not to be turned up to 11 24/7/365.
 
2013-11-08 01:23:42 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: "We need to throw this water hose away."

"Why?"

"It's not working properly. The water doesn't flow freely and it sprays everywhere. This wasted water is raising our water bill."

"But...you're stepping on the hose"


That..is the best description I've seen of this debate ever. I'm so stealing it from you.

/RAND PAUL
 
2013-11-08 01:24:09 PM  
wonder what these states could all have in common

A bunch of stupid backward obstructionist short-sighted red state f*ckers, natch.
 
2013-11-08 01:28:09 PM  

whidbey: wonder what these states could all have in common

A bunch of stupid backward obstructionist short-sighted red state f*ckers, natch.


Republicans obstructing Obama, in my America? It's more likely than you think.
 
2013-11-08 01:29:19 PM  
Navigators have no background checks.  Have fun giving them all your personal information.
 
2013-11-08 01:30:26 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "neener neener, libs"


You just described the foundation of conservative opinion.  It's not a system of beliefs so much as a desire to believe something that would offend "liberals"
 
2013-11-08 01:31:27 PM  
Texas Governor Rick Perry wanted navigators to be fingerprinted, pay a state licensing fee, and take an extra 40 hours of coursework on top of what federal law required.

And Texas continues to have the most uninsured residents in the Union.
Fark you, Gov. Goodhair.

Link
 
2013-11-08 01:31:38 PM  
HealthCare.gov: How political fear was pitted against technical needs

Although the statute provided plenty of money to help states build their own insurance exchanges, it included no money for the development of a federal exchange - and Republicans would block any funding attempts. According to one former administration official, Sebelius simply could not scrounge together enough money to keep a group of people developing the exchanges working directly under her.

Bureaucratic as this move may sound, it was fateful, according to current and former administration officials. It meant that the work of designing the federal health exchange - and of helping states that wanted to build their own - became fragmented.

A larger number of states than expected were signaling that, under Republican pressure, they would refuse to build their own online insurance marketplaces and would rely on the federal one. The more states in the federal exchange, the more complex the task of building it. Yet, according to several former officials, White House staff would not let this fact be included in the specifications. Their concern, one former official said, was that Republicans would seize on it as evidence of a feared federal takeover of the health-care system.
 
2013-11-08 01:32:15 PM  

BalugaJoe: Navigators have no background checks.  Have fun giving them all your personal information.


So the existing laws related to the use and misuse of this information aren't enough?
 
2013-11-08 01:40:22 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: BalugaJoe: Navigators have no background checks.  Have fun giving them all your personal information.

So the existing laws related to the use and misuse of this information aren't enough?


For reference, the rules regarding privacy and security of PII apply to navigators. See Section (b) of the linked page.
 
2013-11-08 01:42:32 PM  

tinyarena: /cruz/paul/rubio are done in politics


I hope so.  Discrediting the paultards is one thing I would really like to see happen.
 
2013-11-08 01:42:50 PM  

wxboy: If they can keep people from signing up for Obamacare, they can point to its failure by pointing out that Obamacare didn't get people signed up like was promised, while leaving out the part about how they actively worked toward that goal. And people will believe it.


People in red states will believe it, while they lag behind people in blue states who will be reaping the benefits. And then they'll claim that it's a result of Obama deliberately punishing the states that didn't vote for him.
 
2013-11-08 01:43:34 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So they couldn't stop it from becoming law. The Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality. The president was reelected because of it. They couldn't repeal it after forty attempts. Shutting down the government for over two weeks couldn't stop it. But now we won't even help you learn about how it could benefit you!

Eventually you'd think that people will realize that the Republican party is running on petty spite at this point. Sure the tea party types love it, but I can't imagine this parade of "neener neener, libs" is playing well to anyone still identifying as a Republican who doesn't actively hate everyone in the country who isn't exactly like them.


But, but, but... actively hating everyone who isn't exactly like you is the foundation of the post-civil rights era republican party.
 
2013-11-08 01:47:28 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-08 01:48:21 PM  
They died in their hundreds with no sign to mark where 
Save the brass in the pocket of the entrepreneur. 
By landslide and rockblast they got buried so deep 
That in death if not life they'll have peace while they sleep.
 
2013-11-08 01:57:28 PM  
You have to wonder how many needlessly dead Americans the tea-baggers & their masters the Koch brothers want to see...  30,00? 100,000 ? more?
 
2013-11-08 02:07:06 PM  
My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!
 
2013-11-08 02:09:48 PM  
Texas Governor Rick Perry wanted navigators to be fingerprinted, pay a state licensing fee, and take an extra 40 hours of coursework on top of what federal law required.

It's pretty obvious what the idea is here, put up whatever obstacle you can in order to discourage it.  Kind of like the rape wand for abortion.  Of course it's totally different when you're doing it to a gun owner.
 
2013-11-08 02:11:23 PM  

farkstorm: My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!


I think that can be sorted out. If only there were a guide, a navigator of sorts, to help you through the 10,000 pages of Obamacare...
 
2013-11-08 02:11:59 PM  

monoski: wonder what these states could all have in common

//punchable faces in charge


*sigh* yes.  And IL is a blue state!  We just have an asshat shiat for brains governor* (D) who lets the republicans walk all over him.


*however, he's better than Blago, if only for the fact he's not Blago.....
 
2013-11-08 02:12:02 PM  
WHOOOO-WEE, all the little (R) republicker trolls are swarming in this thread!
 
2013-11-08 02:13:30 PM  

farkstorm: My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!


When I looked on the exchange in Kansas, there were specific BCBS plans that covered pediatric vision and dental and specific plans that did not.
 
2013-11-08 02:15:07 PM  

farkstorm: My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!


Sounds like you've made poor life choices.
Life isn't fair, time to get all boot strappy!
 
2013-11-08 02:16:08 PM  

farkstorm: My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!


Your BCBS sucks.  MY BCBS raised my ded from $300 to $500, and my max OOP from $3K to $4750. BUT now co pays contribute to OOP, not just claims and deductibles.  AND it increase my  monthly cost....NOTHING.  IT WENT UP BY NOTHING.

BCBS Michigan FTW.  You should shop around.
 
2013-11-08 02:22:14 PM  
Not shocked to see Nebraska on there, since we didn't get a state exchange. Nebraska never embraced the teabagger movement, but our governor is a f*cking shill idiot.
 
2013-11-08 02:24:42 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: farkstorm: My BC/BS individual health insurance plan will go from $156/month to $542/month in January.
The ONLY difference in the coverage: the new plan covers pediatric vision and dental.
My youngest child is 23 and has her own insurance coverage.

Thanks Obama!

Your BCBS sucks.  MY BCBS raised my ded from $300 to $500, and my max OOP from $3K to $4750. BUT now co pays contribute to OOP, not just claims and deductibles.  AND it increase my  monthly cost....NOTHING.  IT WENT UP BY NOTHING.

BCBS Michigan FTW.  You should shop around.


yes, I will shop around. I was just trying to make an apples-to-apples comparison resulting from the ACA.
 
2013-11-08 02:27:48 PM  
farkstorm:

BCBS Michigan FTW.  You should shop around.

yes, I will shop around. I was just trying to make an apples-to-apples comparison resulting from the ACA.


Your BCBS is really taking unfair advantage of you and blaming the ACA.  I hope you find something better.
 
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