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2013-11-08 09:05:19 AM
At least he's still a minor and this won't go on his permanent record.

Parents, you're not doing your kid any favors by calling the cops on them. In the worst case, they'll be shot to death in a bizarre stolen truck and high speed chase incident. In the more normal case, the kid won't be able to get a job and will end up becoming a criminal.
 
2013-11-08 09:05:52 AM
At least he didn't find a reason to get shot by police,,, yet.
 
2013-11-08 09:06:05 AM
"The boy's mother told police that her son had been tardy more than 30 times already this year because of his reluctance to get out of bed. "

That mother is lucky they don't go after her.  How many schools has there been so far this year?  Can't be much more than 30 it's only 2 months into the school year.
 
2013-11-08 09:06:10 AM
This wouldn't happen if the dad was still around to whip some manners into this punk
 
2013-11-08 09:06:58 AM
as long as anyone is allowed to reproduce this will continue to happen. the longer i live the fewer i see are qualified and capable of raising children well. eugenics is the answer.
 
2013-11-08 09:08:17 AM
My father would dump cold water on me, then flip my bed with me in it.  Did I mention that my father was an asshole?
 
2013-11-08 09:08:50 AM

An official with the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice told officers to charge with boy as an unruly child


O_o
 
2013-11-08 09:11:01 AM
The easiest way to avoid being held accountable for anything you do: shift all responsibility onto the police.
 
2013-11-08 09:11:02 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: At least he's still a minor and this won't go on his permanent record.

Parents, you're not doing your kid any favors by calling the cops on them. In the worst case, they'll be shot to death in a bizarre stolen truck and high speed chase incident. In the more normal case, the kid won't be able to get a job and will end up becoming a criminal.


So, your kids get to smash all your crap and you just deal with it, because sometimes when a parent physically restrains an older child it results in charges for the parents.  Also, in some areas parents can face jail time for kids poor attendance.  I am very much on the parents' side on this one.

As for the kid who got killed for the stolen truck, it's his own fault.  That young man was pushing Darwin's buttons.
 
2013-11-08 09:11:13 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: An official with the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice told officers to charge with boy as an unruly child


O_o


Bake 'em away, toys!
 
2013-11-08 09:13:04 AM
Earache my eye!
 
2013-11-08 09:16:29 AM
(reads TFA)

Tardy more than 30 times this year?  Are you kidding me?

Arrest the parents instead.
 
2013-11-08 09:19:04 AM

TNel: "The boy's mother told police that her son had been tardy more than 30 times already this year because of his reluctance to get out of bed. "

That mother is lucky they don't go after her.  How many schools has there been so far this year?  Can't be much more than 30 it's only 2 months into the school year.


School started in Georgia around August 5
 
2013-11-08 09:19:30 AM

ristst: Earache my eye!

damn it!! I over slept again!

 
2013-11-08 09:20:05 AM

Smeggy Smurf: This wouldn't happen if the dad was still around to whip some manners into this punk


Even if the dad were around, he's not allowed to do that anymore.
 
2013-11-08 09:22:47 AM
I am shocked -- SHOCKED! -- to find that Subby DNRTFA!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-08 09:22:51 AM
I met a teenage girl who got an award for most improved in her class. She was most improved because the previous year she decided not to get out of bed and go to school.
 
2013-11-08 09:24:09 AM
Step one:

LEARN HOW TO BE A GOD DAMNED MOTHER, you worthless piece of estrogen

Step two:

Get a man in your life that is willing to drag the spoiled little shiat out of bed by his hair, and force him on the schoolbus, whether he is dressed or not.
 
2013-11-08 09:25:36 AM
There's got to be something else going on for this kid to follow through on his threat. Bad parenting, bad situation at school, mental illness? I mean, I got water thrown on my lazy ass occasionally too and probably wanted to retaliate but I didn't actually do it.
 
2013-11-08 09:28:29 AM
My brother refused to go to school starting in about 2nd grade. By the time he was 14, there was no physically making him go. My mom tried and tried. My grandpa used a switch (a small branch from a tree) on him and it didn't work. As the older brother, I tried my hand, and I got no further. He eventually went to live with my dad, who was not able to make it happen either, no matter how much he threatened him, hit him, whatever. Eventually, everyone gave up and my brother dropped out. Turns out he was molested in 2nd grade by an older kid at the same school, which had long-lasting emotional repercussions for him, and that is where his reluctance to go to school came from. He has finally moved on as an adult, and he is currently going to community college and getting ready to transfer to a university to pursue engineering.
 
2013-11-08 09:28:49 AM

SubBass49: (reads TFA)

Tardy more than 30 times this year?  Are you kidding me?

Arrest the parents instead.


Yeah this sounds like a "I really didn't care if he was late until after Tardy #25 when the school told me he was in danger of being expelled, and I realized that I would then have to deal with him an extra 9 months of the year".
 
2013-11-08 09:29:19 AM
Surprised they just didn't shoot him.
 
2013-11-08 09:30:30 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: At least he's still a minor and this won't go on his permanent record.

Parents, you're not doing your kid any favors by calling the cops on them. In the worst case, they'll be shot to death in a bizarre stolen truck and high speed chase incident. In the more normal case, the kid won't be able to get a job and will end up becoming a criminal.


Disagree, while there is a chance that the cops might overreact, he was physically assaulting his mother, she should have called the cops just as you should call the cops if your spouse or anyone else was acting this way.  Yes in general calling the cops is overkill, but I think she did the right thing, and hopefully this kid has now learned his lesson, or not, who knows.
 
2013-11-08 09:31:44 AM
In the end, the kid got his way: he is now in juvey lock up and doesn't have to go to school.
 
2013-11-08 09:36:42 AM

TNel: "The boy's mother told police that her son had been tardy more than 30 times already this year because of his reluctance to get out of bed. "

That mother is lucky they don't go after her.  How many schools has there been so far this year?  Can't be much more than 30 it's only 2 months into the school year.


All the schools
 
2013-11-08 09:38:22 AM

MindStalker: AverageAmericanGuy: At least he's still a minor and this won't go on his permanent record.

Parents, you're not doing your kid any favors by calling the cops on them. In the worst case, they'll be shot to death in a bizarre stolen truck and high speed chase incident. In the more normal case, the kid won't be able to get a job and will end up becoming a criminal.

Disagree, while there is a chance that the cops might overreact, he was physically assaulting his mother, she should have called the cops just as you should call the cops if your spouse or anyone else was acting this way.  Yes in general calling the cops is overkill, but I think she did the right thing, and hopefully this kid has now learned his lesson, or not, who knows.


And I agree, but only because this is still a minor and short of murdering someone, his record will be wiped clean when he turns 18. If this action causes him to be "scared straight", then it worked.

But calling in the police is overkill, in general. And not in the best interest of your adult child, if that is who you are having trouble with. Unlike in the case of a minor, an adult getting arrested can seriously fark up his future life prospects.

As everyone's already posted, teach your kids well long before they grow to be out of control. If you haven't taught them right from wrong, you've failed as a parent. this woman is a failure as a parent, and her kid is probably going to be in trouble with the law for the rest of his life.
 
2013-11-08 09:39:24 AM
Alice Bowie.

At least they didn't shoot the dog.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-08 09:43:54 AM
his record will be wiped clean when he turns 18

In my state this isn't completely true. Most people checking your public record will find no convictions. If you apply for a government job, a security clearance, or a gun license they will check your juvenile record. Earlier this year the state supreme court ruled that a juvenile conviction for illegal possession of a gun could permanently bar an adult from obtaining a license to carry.
 
2013-11-08 09:45:39 AM

ZAZ: his record will be wiped clean when he turns 18

In my state this isn't completely true. Most people checking your public record will find no convictions. If you apply for a government job, a security clearance, or a gun license they will check your juvenile record. Earlier this year the state supreme court ruled that a juvenile conviction for illegal possession of a gun could permanently bar an adult from obtaining a license to carry.


All the more reason to *really* think about whether you're just calling the cops in order to teach the kid a lesson or to actually take away a dangerous person.
 
2013-11-08 09:51:26 AM

KingKauff: In the end, the kid got his way: he is now in juvey lock up and doesn't have to go to school.


They have classrooms and teachers in juvenile detention.
 
2013-11-08 09:58:37 AM
Did he try bending over, moaning and wailing, and licking his palms? It's a little childish and stupid, but then, so is high school.
 
2013-11-08 10:03:41 AM

hoo_hoo_fred: KingKauff: In the end, the kid got his way: he is now in juvey lock up and doesn't have to go to school.

They have classrooms and teachers in juvenile detention.


And it's forced attendance...even better.
 
2013-11-08 10:13:03 AM
When I was younger I suffered from a sleep disorder called Delayed Sleep Phase.

misunderstandings about what was going on meant that I spent YEARS punishing myself while others punished me because, even though I was very productive during evening and night hours, no amount of training, or wishing could make it so that I could have any sort of mental clarity in the early hours of the morning.  I could make myself get up, I could go wherever my body needed to go, but I was not mentally intact until after 9:30 or so in the morning.  Tried sleep drugs, tried getting up early everyday for a year, tried sleep hygiene....all to no avail.
If left unscheduled, I would sleep from 2am to 10 am, and be well rested, productive, an feeling good all day with my peak productivity being between 6 or seven pm and midnight.   Unfortunately, due to being in the minority, work, school, etc. I mostly walk around in a sleep deprived daze, always tired.
Check into the effects that sleep deprivation causes.  Diabetes, weight gain, high cortisol levels, increased pain perception, depression etc.  These problems are considered epidemic in the U.S., and yet anyone who does not keep the hours of a preindustrial farmer is just a lazy malingerer.
The ADA should protect people who have this disorder, making people provide Reasonable accommodations for such people, such as allowing them to do their work in hours which are more conducive to such activity.  I have never heard of a school making such acomidations.  School attendance is legaly manditory.

Since I know this is FARK, I know my comments will be met with ridicule, derision, disbelief in the validity of such a condition, and the occasional ad homonym attack.  Don't worry, I know that such views are anti-Calvisnist, unpopular, and not generally understood by the public.  I know that many think that such people are just not trying, or not trying the correct remedies, or are just lacking the mandatory amphetamine levels required by ADHD diagnosis.  If your kids are having problems (the disorder is most common among juvenile males) then it is merely a challenge to your authority and a sign that your kid is lazy and inconsiderate on purpose, just to piss you off.  The best thing you can do for someone suffering with these problems is to punish them (severely and physically (based on previous posts in this thread)), belittle them, and pretend that they don't have a treatable problem, but are morally bankrupt.

a quote from everyones favorite Wikipedia:

Lack of public awareness of the disorder contributes to the difficulties experienced by people with DSPD, who are commonly stereotyped as undisciplined or lazy. Parents may be chastised for not giving their children acceptable sleep patterns, and schools and workplaces rarely tolerate chronically late, absent, or sleepy students and workers, failing to see them as having a chronic illness.
"By the time DSPD sufferers receive an accurate diagnosis, they often have been misdiagnosed or labelled as lazy and incompetent workers or students for years. Misdiagnosis of circadian rhythm sleep disorders as psychiatric conditions causes considerable distress to patients and their families, and leads to some patients being inappropriately prescribed [10]"
As DSPD is so little-known and so misunderstood, [43]
People with DSPD who force themselves to live on a normal 9-5 day "are not often successful and may develop physical and psychological complaints during waking hours, i.e. sleepiness, fatigue, headache, decreased appetite, or depressed mood. Patients with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_disorder#cite_note-Ok awa2007-12">[12]

Thanks for all of your support!
 
2013-11-08 10:13:58 AM
For the kids that don't understand the reference of earache, the wisdom of Cheech and Chong, from 1975.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612zj0lp3FY
 
2013-11-08 10:17:42 AM
Kid might also have a medical problem beyond 'being a teenager'. Though the 'being a teenager' part makes it extremely difficult to diagnose. Mom also escalated it, the kid made a specific threat back to her threat, and it's very difficult for kids to back down from such things. Not saying mom should put up with his shiat or anything, simply that she went about it very poorly, you don't back teens into a corner. And calling the cops on your kid unless in extreme circumstances isn't good judgment, unless there's details we're not aware of.

And there are plenty of kids with serious life long behavioral problems that have nothing to do with the parenting. Though if that were the case, I don't think she wouldn't have threatened to throw water on him. Kids with lifelong behavioral bullshiat parents seem learn not to instigate physical challenges very early on.

/so so glad no kids
 
2013-11-08 10:19:13 AM

SubBass49: hoo_hoo_fred: KingKauff: In the end, the kid got his way: he is now in juvey lock up and doesn't have to go to school.

They have classrooms and teachers in juvenile detention.

And it's forced attendance...even better.


indeed.
 
2013-11-08 10:28:14 AM
Murderer Jim: "Hey Steve, what're ya in for?"

Rapist Steve: "I like little boys."

Murderer Jim: "You sick fark...and you kid?  What're you doing here?"

Truant Kid: "Truancy."

Jim and Steve: "*GASP*! OFFICER!  GET US OUT OF HERE!!!"

/truancy shouldn't be a crime
 
2013-11-08 11:06:06 AM
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9 times?

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9 times.
 
2013-11-08 11:22:07 AM
Home school.
Make him learn Latin.
 
2013-11-08 11:35:25 AM

ambercat: Smeggy Smurf: This wouldn't happen if the dad was still around to whip some manners into this punk

Even if the dad were around, he's not allowed to do that anymore.


I had to smack my stepson once.
~cue staring dog~
ONCE.

That one act got the point across better than anything else possible could have.  Since then only words have been needed.  He was smacked once by his grandpa on his mom's side. ONCE.  Same result.

You can still do it.  Only those not willing to be parents are afraid to do it when necessary.
 
2013-11-08 11:54:02 AM
I don't feel tardy
 
2013-11-08 12:09:19 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Only those not willing to be parents are afraid to do it when necessary.


Amen
 
2013-11-08 12:23:35 PM
Police charge him with being a teenager

No, subtard, police charged him with being a violent felon.

Most teenagers are alternately hyperactive balls of energy and black holes of depression -- often in the same 30 minutes.

I was a rotten teenager; I yelled at my parents, I stomped around the house complaining that no one understood the horrible things I was going through, and I made life miserable for everyone around me.  I didn't damage property or assault people. BIG difference.
 
2013-11-08 03:33:53 PM
Oh hey look, another well meaning parent called the cops, but their kid ended up dead. Cops were twice told that they should probably break off, because their response escalated the situation and placed people in danger. The same reason cops stop chasing criminals who have committed relatively minor crimes, instead of pushing them into a high speed chase, it's easier/safer for everyone to arrest them later.

But I guess there's a lesson he'll never forget, or something. Since he's white there should probably be covered outrage.

http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-sh o ot-1460159897
 
2013-11-08 05:14:52 PM

jayhawk88: SubBass49: (reads TFA)

Tardy more than 30 times this year?  Are you kidding me?

Arrest the parents instead.

Yeah this sounds like a "I really didn't care if he was late until after Tardy #25 when the school told me he was in danger of being expelled, and I realized that I would then have to deal with him an extra 9 months of the year".


No it sounds like a a parent dealing with an asshole kid going through that horrible phase in which they are to big to force to do things and to little to say GTFO.  It's not uncommon for a caring parent to meet up with this problem.  If a 14 year old kid completely refuses to get up and go to school what would you do?  Get physical?  Then it just escalates as in this situation.
 
2013-11-08 05:15:47 PM
Also if a headline is blatantly false it should be humorous or something.
 
2013-11-08 05:28:43 PM
Around here, we've started using job apps with the question, "Have you ever been arrested?" specifically because of juvie arrests.  We hired young adults with good references, decent job histories, and then after they'd been working a while, they would be pretty much useless, no real skills, no interest in learning any, and then we'd find out their parents had spent huge sums on diversions programs, boot camps, anything that would convince family court judges to drop the case and "keep their records clean."  It would take us forever to get rid of them, because the application asked about convictions instead of arrests.  Now, if they lie on the application, immediate termination, no recourse.  It's weeded out a lot of the true losers, but not the slackers.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-08 06:04:20 PM
In Massachusetts it's illegal to ask about criminal record on a written job application, and illegal to ask about arrests in an interview. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/massachusetts-law-employer-use - arrest-conviction-records.html. Again, this protection doesn't apply to government jobs. Boston decided to purge anybody with an arrest record from working for schools.
 
2013-11-08 06:27:06 PM
A little off-topic, but a former good friend of mine is now a raging meth-head.  She never bothered to register her 15y/o daughter for school this year. I even went so far as to get a copy of the daughters birth certificate, and took her with me to the school to get her registered and enrolled.  The staff refused, because I'm not her parent/guardian.

I would've reported the mother to the DSS, since she'd face jailtime (which would do her good), but by law, the daughter would also be arrested and end up in juvenile hall, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT HER FAULT.

Stupid bullshiat pisses me off every day.  Wish I could get her in school, somehow....

/NSCSB
 
2013-11-08 07:32:56 PM
In the boy's defense, you can't go to school in GA without worrying about being murdered for your internal organs.
 
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