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2013-11-07 08:24:56 PM
Hey, I know a guy who shoplifted multiple bb guns, then fell on the ice outside the store. They never got the bb guns and his mom successfully sued the store. We wound up having bb gun wars with the guns.
 
2013-11-07 08:26:42 PM
At some point these guys are going to figure out how to get some employee uniforms and just start walking out with the stuff through the back door.
 
2013-11-07 08:27:24 PM
You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?
 
2013-11-07 08:34:01 PM
Shoplifting LIKE A BOSS
 
2013-11-07 08:34:58 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: At some point these guys are going to figure out how to get some employee uniforms and just start walking out with the stuff through the back door.


When my wife was working retail back in her college days some thieves did something similar at another store in her mall.  They got some generic uniforms that looked like deliverymen's uniforms and rented a moving van that sorta coulda looked like a department-store delivery truck.  Early in the morning after the real deliverymen had unloaded their racks of stuff onto the loading dock and left to make their next stop, the thieves back their truck up to the loading dock and pushed the racks into their van before store employees could take care of the racks.

They ALMOST got away with it...they weren't fast enough and store security caught them as they were rolling in the last of the racks.  I think the police estimated they would have gotten close to $25,000 worth of stuff.
 
2013-11-07 08:36:43 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?


I'm always amazed at how crappy security video always is. It's always from a high angle so you only see the tops of their heads and it always grainy and blurry as fark. You would think in this day and age with HD quality equipment available places would have better cameras and place them at eye level so you can see the peoples faces.
 
2013-11-07 08:46:53 PM

ReapTheChaos: drjekel_mrhyde: You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?

I'm always amazed at how crappy security video always is. It's always from a high angle so you only see the tops of their heads and it always grainy and blurry as fark. You would think in this day and age with HD quality equipment available places would have better cameras and place them at eye level so you can see the peoples faces.


I was complaining about this today at work. We still have the original cameras from when the store opened 15 years ago, with 320x240 resolution (or so). Sometimes you can tell the person has a face.
 
2013-11-07 08:54:11 PM
Smoke as you are doing so.
 
2013-11-07 09:00:45 PM

kittyhas1000legs: ReapTheChaos: drjekel_mrhyde: You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?

I'm always amazed at how crappy security video always is. It's always from a high angle so you only see the tops of their heads and it always grainy and blurry as fark. You would think in this day and age with HD quality equipment available places would have better cameras and place them at eye level so you can see the peoples faces.

I was complaining about this today at work. We still have the original cameras from when the store opened 15 years ago, with 320x240 resolution (or so). Sometimes you can tell the person has a face.


Why don't you just push the "enhance" button?  A vertical white line sweeps across the image, and then you hear some chirps, and then the once blurry image becomes crystal clear.

/I saw it on a documentary once
//it was called CSI: Los Angeles
 
2013-11-07 09:05:35 PM

Etchy333: kittyhas1000legs: ReapTheChaos: drjekel_mrhyde: You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?

I'm always amazed at how crappy security video always is. It's always from a high angle so you only see the tops of their heads and it always grainy and blurry as fark. You would think in this day and age with HD quality equipment available places would have better cameras and place them at eye level so you can see the peoples faces.

I was complaining about this today at work. We still have the original cameras from when the store opened 15 years ago, with 320x240 resolution (or so). Sometimes you can tell the person has a face.

Why don't you just push the "enhance" button?  A vertical white line sweeps across the image, and then you hear some chirps, and then the once blurry image becomes crystal clear.

/I saw it on a documentary once
//it was called CSI: Los Angeles


Probably the most realistic thing they did in that episode.
 
2013-11-07 09:06:24 PM
With CSB stufflike GlobalWarming guy
This stuff will continue to happen more and more
Store employees are not allowed to stop you from walking out the front door with stuff. Its in indoc from day one
You can grab anything you want, pull out your dick, flip off a sales person and walk right out the door
Ain't nobody going to attempt to stop you, and they know it. No need to carry any weapons. In fact most don't, because they know they can get what they want without them. And why add years onto time when you don't have to
Most of these types have extended families already in prison. They know they don't have much to look forward to in life. They simply don't care if they get caught.
Its street cred for a high yield, even if they can only enjoy the quick cash for a short time.
 
2013-11-07 09:08:54 PM
Shoplifters of the woooooooooooooooorld, unite and take ovvvvvvvvvvvvvvver...........
 
2013-11-07 09:12:06 PM

DownDaRiver: With CSB stufflike GlobalWarming guy
This stuff will continue to happen more and more
Store employees are not allowed to stop you from walking out the front door with stuff. Its in indoc from day one
You can grab anything you want, pull out your dick, flip off a sales person and walk right out the door
Ain't nobody going to attempt to stop you, and they know it. No need to carry any weapons. In fact most don't, because they know they can get what they want without them. And why add years onto time when you don't have to
Most of these types have extended families already in prison. They know they don't have much to look forward to in life. They simply don't care if they get caught.
Its street cred for a high yield, even if they can only enjoy the quick cash for a short time.



I am not thinking that it was right, I am just telling a story.
 
2013-11-07 09:12:12 PM
An extreme shoplifter doesn't inconvenience me as much as some crone in front of me in line with 500 coupons. You could argue that shoplifting increases prices but I don't think that happens, a store still has to be competitive.
 
2013-11-07 09:13:18 PM

DownDaRiver: With CSB stufflike GlobalWarming guy
This stuff will continue to happen more and more
Store employees are not allowed to stop you from walking out the front door with stuff. Its in indoc from day one
You can grab anything you want, pull out your dick, flip off a sales person and walk right out the door
Ain't nobody going to attempt to stop you, and they know it. No need to carry any weapons. In fact most don't, because they know they can get what they want without them. And why add years onto time when you don't have to
Most of these types have extended families already in prison. They know they don't have much to look forward to in life. They simply don't care if they get caught.
Its street cred for a high yield, even if they can only enjoy the quick cash for a short time.


Wanna bet?
 
2013-11-07 09:14:38 PM
"Remarkably, they are still at large. The Chicago police are now offering a $5,000 reward for any information leading to their arrest."

Yea, report it to the police and maybe you get the reward or not because of a technicality and then maybe the robber finds out you narc'd on him. OR buy a nice $150 dollar jacket from the robber for just fifty bucks. Decisions, decisions...
 
2013-11-07 09:17:07 PM
That is  so old and busted, the Mafia gave up on it in about 1950. Where has subby been all this time?
 
2013-11-07 09:21:16 PM

Mugato: An extreme shoplifter doesn't inconvenience me as much as some crone in front of me in line with 500 coupons. You could argue that shoplifting increases prices but I don't think that happens, a store still has to be competitive.


Or it gets driven out of business by the shoplifters making it too expensive.

The shirt you get at the store for $25 goes towards covering the rent, the utilities, wages, new stock, equipment and so on. When you're laid off because the store can't stay open due to thieves, you'll stop thinking it's funny.
 
2013-11-07 09:24:25 PM
Rational and smart.  If you are going to steal anything really worth the risk, with the way the law treats marked monetary value, might as well super-size it.
 
2013-11-07 09:24:42 PM
Back when I was working for the Public Defender's office it was SOP for the prosecutor to dismiss any pending misdemeanors if somebody got sent to prison on a felony case.  Several of my clients took advantage of this and hit Wal-Mart several times the weekend before their felony sentencing.  If they got caught it was no additional time.  If not, the kids had a nice flat screen and a new Wii to remember Dad by while he was gone.
 
2013-11-07 09:29:07 PM
Is it wrong that I admire their audacity?
 
2013-11-07 09:30:33 PM

Khazar-Khum: Mugato: An extreme shoplifter doesn't inconvenience me as much as some crone in front of me in line with 500 coupons. You could argue that shoplifting increases prices but I don't think that happens, a store still has to be competitive.

Or it gets driven out of business by the shoplifters making it too expensive.

The shirt you get at the store for $25 goes towards covering the rent, the utilities, wages, new stock, equipment and so on. When you're laid off because the store can't stay open due to thieves, you'll stop thinking it's funny.


Here's a semi-related funny story: On a recent episode of American Greed, a scam artist who specialized in wrecks-for-profit shut it down when the Feds got close, and was working for a limo company when his case came to trial. During the trial, the limo company had to go out of business because--surprise!--the cost of liability insurance had gotten too high for them to operate at a profit. And why had insurance rates in that area gotten so high? Because of the unusually high rate of insurance claims for accidents filed in that city, thanks to the scam artist and his pals.

So one or two shoplifters for minor items, not a big deal. Megashoplifters hitting stores for big-ticket items--eventually the shop will go out of business, especially if they're not self-insured. Their rates will just go too high to make it profitable to operate.
 
2013-11-07 09:33:45 PM

Khazar-Khum: Mugato: An extreme shoplifter doesn't inconvenience me as much as some crone in front of me in line with 500 coupons. You could argue that shoplifting increases prices but I don't think that happens, a store still has to be competitive.

Or it gets driven out of business by the shoplifters making it too expensive.

The shirt you get at the store for $25 goes towards covering the rent, the utilities, wages, new stock, equipment and so on. When you're laid off because the store can't stay open due to thieves, you'll stop thinking it's funny.


Yeah but stores with customers with 500 coupons are chain stores with insurance, not mom 'n pop places that can get broken by a couple of shoplifters.

I don't think it's funny and I don't condone shoplifting, I'm just saying for me personally, waiting in line for 20 more minutes is more inconvenient.
 
2013-11-07 09:38:42 PM

globalwarmingpraiser: Hey, I know a guy who shoplifted multiple bb guns, then fell on the ice outside the store. They never got the bb guns and his mom successfully sued the store. We wound up having bb gun wars with the guns.


Did he put his eye out?
 
2013-11-07 09:40:23 PM
JesusJuice
Is it wrong that I admire their audacity?

Think of it as quietly revering Dahmer for his ability to get away with horrible acts, but considering a guy that murders two hookers a terrible piece of s**t.

People that can do horrible things in remarkable way are still shown some respect. People that do horrible things and are bad at it are the worst people in the world.
 
2013-11-07 09:47:08 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: At some point these guys are going to figure out how to get some employee uniforms and just start walking out with the stuff through the back door.


Who needs uniforms
i1.ytimg.com
Just saying you're the movers and all new office furniture will show up this afternoon.
 
2013-11-07 09:47:36 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Back when I was working for the Public Defender's office it was SOP for the prosecutor to dismiss any pending misdemeanors if somebody got sent to prison on a felony case.  Several of my clients took advantage of this and hit Wal-Mart several times the weekend before their felony sentencing.  If they got caught it was no additional time.  If not, the kids had a nice flat screen and a new Wii to remember Dad by while he was gone.


I can sort of see the logic in both sides of that.   Why would the prosecutor want to keep pulling a convicted felon out of prison just to deal with open misdemeanor charges?
 
2013-11-07 09:58:03 PM
I applaud The Consumerist for taking a stand against autoplay videos.

Shoplifters are still more mentally sound than extreme couponers.
 
2013-11-07 10:05:07 PM
Many years ago we watched a redneck dude walk up and grab a chainsaw off the display at WalMart and walk right out the door with it.  The few employees who noticed just looked at each other wondering which one was going to chase down a huge drunk redneck with a chainsaw.  Turns out none of them wanted to.
 
2013-11-07 10:06:41 PM

ChicagoKev: I can sort of see the logic in both sides of that. Why would the prosecutor want to keep pulling a convicted felon out of prison just to deal with open misdemeanor charges?


Yep.  Misdemeanor sentences run concurrent with felony time by law, at least in OH, so there's really no point.  They did end up changing the procedure eventually.  Now they just don't file the charges until the felony time is about over, then string 'em along.  Here's your release papers, and here's a new set of charges.
 
2013-11-07 10:13:43 PM
Too bad they can't just press a button, remote lock the doors, and watch them bounce.
 
2013-11-07 10:26:16 PM

Prophet of Loss: Too bad they can't just press a button, remote lock the doors, and watch them bounce.


Or bolt the rack down.
/I wonder how much would it cost for them to have a muti-configuration that locks racks in place.
 
2013-11-07 10:33:36 PM

Enemabag Jones: JesusJuice
Is it wrong that I admire their audacity?

Think of it as quietly revering Dahmer for his ability to get away with horrible acts, but considering a guy that murders two hookers a terrible piece of s**t.

People that can do horrible things in remarkable way are still shown some respect. People that do horrible things and are bad at it are the worst people in the world.


I have a hard time seeing this as 'horrible.'
 
2013-11-07 10:37:00 PM
How did they get out the door without tripping over their massive balls?

/dislike thieves
 
2013-11-07 10:46:24 PM

JesusJuice: Is it wrong that I admire their audacity?


It's a fact - some people are low in life and full of hate.

I won't judge you wrong for being low in life and full of hate. I pity you.
 
2013-11-07 10:55:08 PM
I was at a poorly run thrift store yesterday and I watched a man just walk out the front door with merchandise in his hands. If they were better run they would have had someone stationed at the cash registers rather than wandering around the store working on merchandising. I think the guy actually looked to pay, but with no one up front he figured "fark it, I'm leaving".

Food Network ran a few episodes about some loss prevention consultants who would do "how much can we grab without getting caught" followed by some basic LP consulting. They stole a display rack. Apart from emboldening people about being thieves the show got really repetitive
 
2013-11-07 11:04:47 PM
The stores have access to technology that would electronically lock a wheel on the rack (similar to those on grocery store carts).  The RFID detectors at the door could trigger the lock if the rack passes.  That would eliminate the problem.
 
2013-11-07 11:17:56 PM

DownDaRiver: With CSB stufflike GlobalWarming guy
This stuff will continue to happen more and more
Store employees are not allowed to stop you from walking out the front door with stuff. Its in indoc from day one
You can grab anything you want, pull out your dick, flip off a sales person and walk right out the door
Ain't nobody going to attempt to stop you, and they know it. No need to carry any weapons. In fact most don't, because they know they can get what they want without them. And why add years onto time when you don't have to
Most of these types have extended families already in prison. They know they don't have much to look forward to in life. They simply don't care if they get caught.
Its street cred for a high yield, even if they can only enjoy the quick cash for a short time.


CSB again, but here in Chicago last weekend I learned that the mall cops at target have the ability to handcuff and detain people until the police arrive.  Was in the Logan Square target last friday when all of a sudden I see a very overweight security guard huffing and puffing through the store.  Him and three other security guards ran out the door and brought a dude back in through the door in cuffs.  They marched him past the registers and took him to a back room until the CPD showed up and took him away in the back of their car. No idea what he did, but I'm assuming shoplifting.
 
2013-11-07 11:22:38 PM
I couldn't tell from the low-res video, but I'm assuming these thieves are all Norwegians?
 
2013-11-07 11:48:11 PM
Oh, Shakazaramesh, will you ever learn?
 
2013-11-07 11:53:13 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: At some point these guys are going to figure out how to get some employee uniforms and just start walking out with the stuff through the back door.


Yeah, but then they run the risk of bumping into the warehouse guys doing the same thing.

Mugato: An extreme shoplifter doesn't inconvenience me as much as some crone in front of me in line with 500 coupons. You could argue that shoplifting increases prices but I don't think that happens, a store still has to be competitive.


You'd be surprised at how much merchandize walks out of the store when it's not behind locked glass.
 
2013-11-08 12:03:25 AM
CSB: I worked at a Sports Authority in Omaha for many years while in college.  On weekends, during the summer, we would have a sidewalk sale and roll racks of clearance clothes to the area in front of the store.  Someone was always out there, usually a teenage, female employee.  One night, a white van pulled up in front of the store, a guy jumped out of the back and grabbed a whole rack of jerseys.  Probably 50+ basketball and football jerseys, guessing a retail price of $3,000-$4,000.  Even after this debacle, they district manager told us to keep putting racks out front, but as far as I know it never happened again.  /CSB
 
2013-11-08 12:03:56 AM
Without reading the article: Meth

Skimming the article: Huh... inconclusive.
 
2013-11-08 12:10:25 AM

pdevline: The stores have access to technology that would electronically lock a wheel on the rack (similar to those on grocery store carts).  The RFID detectors at the door could trigger the lock if the rack passes.  That would eliminate the problem.


Except fire code dictates that you cannot lock doors while the business is occupied (and for f*cking good reason).

Whatever, it's just stuff.

I remember from my retail days: if you're going to steal, then steal big. There was nothing more pathetic than watching some teenage girl bawling her eyes out in front of a police officer while waiting for her mom because she tried to steal a Britney Spears album.

Now the people who stole our entire Beatles collection: they did it right, those magnificent bastards.

/fun fact - if you stack the RFID security stickers, the alarm gate won't go off
 
2013-11-08 12:15:29 AM

Mazzic518: DownDaRiver: With CSB stufflike GlobalWarming guy
This stuff will continue to happen more and more
Store employees are not allowed to stop you from walking out the front door with stuff. Its in indoc from day one
You can grab anything you want, pull out your dick, flip off a sales person and walk right out the door
Ain't nobody going to attempt to stop you, and they know it. No need to carry any weapons. In fact most don't, because they know they can get what they want without them. And why add years onto time when you don't have to
Most of these types have extended families already in prison. They know they don't have much to look forward to in life. They simply don't care if they get caught.
Its street cred for a high yield, even if they can only enjoy the quick cash for a short time.

Wanna bet?


Ok, I'll bite
What's the bet?
 
2013-11-08 12:18:28 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: pdevline: The stores have access to technology that would electronically lock a wheel on the rack (similar to those on grocery store carts).  The RFID detectors at the door could trigger the lock if the rack passes.  That would eliminate the problem.

Except fire code dictates that you cannot lock doors while the business is occupied (and for f*cking good reason).

Whatever, it's just stuff.

I remember from my retail days: if you're going to steal, then steal big. There was nothing more pathetic than watching some teenage girl bawling her eyes out in front of a police officer while waiting for her mom because she tried to steal a Britney Spears album.

Now the people who stole our entire Beatles collection: they did it right, those magnificent bastards.

/fun fact - if you stack the RFID security stickers, the alarm gate won't go off


That is true about the security tags.  I worked at Best Buy in high school, in the music department.  When a shipment of CDs would come in, we would spend hours putting those worthless stickers on the back of every single damn CD.  Anyways, before break, lunch, etc, I would usually just put the strips of security tags in my pocket.  Not sure how many times I got home and found several dozen in my pocket.  Pulled quite a few pranks with those in my day.
 
2013-11-08 01:45:34 AM
cdn3.whatculture.com
 
2013-11-08 01:47:32 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: At some point these guys are going to figure out how to get some employee uniforms and just start walking out with the stuff through the back door.


...considering most retail businesses watch their employees more than they watch the customers, this defeats the purpose.
 
2013-11-08 02:19:12 AM
MusicMakeMyHeadPound:

/fun fact - if you stack the RFID security stickers, the alarm gate won't go off

What do you mean by stacking? Multiples on top of one another, or just so many going through the door at one time that the sensor is overloaded?
I'm going with the first one.

When I worked at Software Etc, inside a B&N, one of my high school co workers (I was older) would slip those in my backpack whenever he could.
Turd.
 
2013-11-08 02:51:39 AM

ReapTheChaos: drjekel_mrhyde: You can't see shiat in those videos. Was it cloths they stole?

I'm always amazed at how crappy security video always is. It's always from a high angle so you only see the tops of their heads and it always grainy and blurry as fark. You would think in this day and age with HD quality equipment available places would have better cameras and place them at eye level so you can see the peoples faces.


Never expect anyone to do what makes sense.  Common sense is extinct in the U.S. of A and has been for decades.
 
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