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(NYPost)   Dear IRS, please send my refund of $2 billion to Lithuania. Sincerely, Bill Gates   (nypost.com) divider line 74
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2013-11-07 09:16:10 PM
This kind of thing will happen when you rely too heavily on Skynet to handle your paperwork instead of fallible human eyes.
 
2013-11-07 09:19:53 PM
Hmmm. Now I'm wondering what are the extradition treaties (if any) with Lithuania?

Second place - China.  And I know they don't have any extradition treaties with the US.  Nah, fark that.  I've lived there.  I don't want to live there for the rest of my life.
 
2013-11-07 09:20:10 PM
Why are 340 income tax refunds going to one single address in Bulgaria? Shouldn't the computer kick out obvious edge cases for human oversight, at the very least?
 
2013-11-07 09:22:05 PM

Sim Tree: Why are 340 income tax refunds going to one single address in Bulgaria? Shouldn't the computer kick out obvious edge cases for human oversight, at the very least?


Have you not paid attention to the abilities of computer systems that government contractors put together?
 
2013-11-07 09:25:31 PM
Sending a refund overseas should raise a flag in the first place.
 
2013-11-07 09:27:43 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: Have you not paid attention to the abilities of computer systems that government contractors put together?


They outsourced all the coding to Bulgaria, right?
 
2013-11-07 09:28:10 PM
This is just the proof we need that shows the IRS is ineffective and should be disbanded immediately.
 
2013-11-07 09:28:48 PM

MrHappyRotter: This is just the proof we need that shows the IRS is ineffective and should be disbanded immediately.


Hear hear!
 
2013-11-07 09:32:20 PM
When I worked at IRS, we had callers from Lithuania and everyone knew it was a scam. You could actually here a call center atmosphere in the background, a bunch of people in the background calling IRS centers across the country. But since we weren't investigators, management pretty much told us to let it go. I remember when the caller would fail the id test (since in most cases they'd stolen an American's social), they'd immediately hang up. We started trying to mess them up to stop them by asking very specific questions and requiring very specific answers. An actual person would stay on the line and try to answer other questions in the id test, so it would only hurt scammers. It was kinda hilarious.
 
2013-11-07 09:34:45 PM
Ooooooo, so scary. How about those corporations who get big tax refunds from basically paying no tax, via cooking their books and making it look like their U.S. operation made no money.

/Big Oil and dirty Kochs gets free taxpayer money too.
//Better not mention that.
///How do I delete what I wrote?
////skld;adagdsgfdvbmb' gf n
 
2013-11-07 09:34:49 PM
The refunds should be delivered with a complimentary drone strike next year.
 
2013-11-07 09:35:40 PM
MrHappyRotter:

This is just the proof we need that shows the IRS is ineffective and should be disbanded immediately.

Oh, I would say the IRS is very effective... at collections.
 
2013-11-07 09:35:56 PM
In the U.S., more fraudulent returns went to Miami than any other city.

Isn't Miami also ground zero for Medicare fraud?
 
2013-11-07 09:37:23 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Sending a refund overseas should raise a flag in the first place.


But since the U.S. tax system makes Americans who live overseas pay taxes on money made outside of the U.S., well its a farked up system.

/No farking way is someone going to fly to the U.S. to get their rebate.
//Just send it to a P.O. box and problem solved.
///3,000 tax rebates to one U.S. address? Its an outrage!!!
 
2013-11-07 09:38:38 PM
Lithonia? Fark 'em.
I wont be buying their light fixtures anymore.
 
2013-11-07 09:43:33 PM
And they scrutinized the everloving shiat out of our adoption credit, with multiple rounds of requesting more documentation, for 4 long months. Thanks, dickheads!
 
2013-11-07 09:47:33 PM

MrHappyRotter: This is just the proof we need that shows the IRS is ineffective and should be disbanded immediately.


The Fair Tax is the only tax system that can't be used as a weapon or cheated.  The ways around it are already built in.  It only taxes lifestyle expenses for people not smart enough to use the secondary market.  Recycling is what the hippies want us to do right?  Reuse, recycle and reduce the amount of planet raping so that it can be prolonged for generations.  You do want to keep jobs right?
 
2013-11-07 09:52:00 PM
Dear Fark,

I'm sorry about what I've inflicted upon this thread.
 
2013-11-07 09:54:28 PM
Anonymous needs some way to get paid for all their good deeds.
 
2013-11-07 09:56:04 PM
Bill Gates fellating obama. Who knew?
 
2013-11-07 10:04:51 PM
what do you expect from Latveria?  It's run by Dr. Doom.
 
2013-11-07 10:06:26 PM
Depending on leanings:

Thanks, Obama
   -OR-
Bushes fault
 
2013-11-07 10:07:58 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

I didn't know Mike Rotunda was so rich
 
2013-11-07 10:19:46 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: Sim Tree: Why are 340 income tax refunds going to one single address in Bulgaria? Shouldn't the computer kick out obvious edge cases for human oversight, at the very least?

Have you not paid attention to the abilities of computer systems that government contractors put together?


It's a feature not a bug.
 
2013-11-07 10:21:58 PM
Easy way to cut back at least a bit on the fraud stop sending refunds to addresses outside the US.

yeah it will just get  relayed to the crooks anyway but at least we can inconvenience them.
 
2013-11-07 10:27:06 PM

BigNumber12: And they scrutinized the everloving shiat out of our adoption credit, with multiple rounds of requesting more documentation, for 4 long months. Thanks, dickheads!


Take a lesson - next time, adopt a baby from Hungary, China or Miami.
 
2013-11-07 10:31:22 PM

fusillade762: In the U.S., more fraudulent returns went to Miami than any other city.

Isn't Miami also ground zero for Medicare fraud?


All the cities mentioned have one thing in common.
 
2013-11-07 10:31:36 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: Sim Tree: Why are 340 income tax refunds going to one single address in Bulgaria? Shouldn't the computer kick out obvious edge cases for human oversight, at the very least?

Have you not paid attention to the abilities of computer systems that government contractors put together?


It's not that. You rent a house on a street and feed the computer addresses that end in "Suite #402". Mr Postman just delivers to the address, it's up to you to sort the mail. That is, if the postman isn't in on it. A little vig goes a long ways.

SirEattonHogg: Hmmm. Now I'm wondering what are the extradition treaties (if any) with Lithuania?

Second place - China.  And I know they don't have any extradition treaties with the US.  Nah, fark that.  I've lived there.  I don't want to live there for the rest of my life.


Actually, Lithuania is a great place to set up offshore corporations. Straight laced officials can't come up with the bribes to make the locals care about who was living in that house. You cross the border quietly, never appear to have actually been in Lithuania, get a local thug to collect and deposit the checks to one corporate account, and then you hop-skip-and jump the money until it's somewhere you can access it from Costa Rica.

Of course, I've been advised not to do business with eastern european mobsters.
 
2013-11-07 10:38:32 PM
This is pretty sad.  4 billion is a shiat ton of money, but only a small percent of a percent of what the federal government wastes.  Imagine what the military contractors scam from the government legally.
 
2013-11-07 10:40:14 PM
I didn't realize that the IRS made Cards Against Humanity.

thenypost.files.wordpress.com geekmom.com
 
2013-11-07 10:44:59 PM

sheep snorter: Ooooooo, so scary. How about those corporations who get big tax refunds from basically paying no tax, via cooking their books and making it look like their U.S. operation made no money.

/Big Oil and dirty Kochs gets free taxpayer money too.
//Better not mention that.
///How do I delete what I wrote?
////skld;adagdsgfdvbmb' gf n


Because clearly we shouldn't try to end waste if there are bigger fish to fry
 
2013-11-07 10:48:30 PM
My bad.
 
2013-11-07 10:52:08 PM

Off2403: I didn't realize that the IRS made Cards Against Humanity.

[thenypost.files.wordpress.com image 720x480] [geekmom.com image 850x634]


That's just helvetica. It's EVERYWHERE.
 
2013-11-07 10:59:58 PM

Smeggy Smurf: MrHappyRotter: This is just the proof we need that shows the IRS is ineffective and should be disbanded immediately.

The Fair Tax is the only tax system that can't be used as a weapon or cheated.  The ways around it are already built in.  It only taxes lifestyle expenses for people not smart enough to use the secondary market.  Recycling is what the hippies want us to do right?  Reuse, recycle and reduce the amount of planet raping so that it can be prolonged for generations.  You do want to keep jobs right?


Says the guy who probably really, REALLY wants to reduce the deficit.
 
2013-11-07 11:01:37 PM
I
Refund
Shysters
 
2013-11-07 11:01:58 PM
*raises hand to ask question*

Is it possible no one ever wrote a use case to flag addresses used more than say 5-10 times in a year?  It's not a bug if nobody ever asked for the check to be designed.

(Though it seems like a pretty damn obvious one to miss)
 
2013-11-07 11:05:41 PM

Billy Bathsalt: The refunds should be delivered with a complimentary drone strike next year.


Huge laughs! Cheers.
 
2013-11-07 11:08:52 PM
Bush's fault.
 
2013-11-07 11:11:26 PM

Smeggy Smurf: The Fair Tax is the only tax system that can't be used as a weapon or cheated


I hate the fair tax for the pretentiousness of it's name alone. Fairness is something that needs to be argued, not asserted, and different people can and do have significantly different opinions on what makes a tax system "fair".
 
2013-11-07 11:20:48 PM

evaned: I hate the fair tax for the pretentiousness of it's name alone.


Here, let me take that apostrophe back.
 
2013-11-07 11:34:14 PM

evaned: Smeggy Smurf: The Fair Tax is the only tax system that can't be used as a weapon or cheated

I hate the fair tax for the pretentiousness of it's name alone. Fairness is something that needs to be argued, not asserted, and different people can and do have significantly different opinions on what makes a tax system "fair".


So you hate it based on emotion.  What is it that you hate?  The fact that it treats everybody equally, just like shiat?  Or that it doesn't punish success while enabling the failures?
 
2013-11-07 11:41:09 PM
No no, food stamp fraud is more important!

If one poor person eats a hot dog they didn't deserve, that's the end of the American dream!
 
2013-11-07 11:51:51 PM
just label yourself a Tea Party charity and they wont be able to look at you.  rake in the return money.
 
2013-11-08 12:01:32 AM
So as I have said for decades, increase their funding so they can catch more fraud. It should have a literally positive monetary return on dollars spent.
 
2013-11-08 12:11:30 AM

Smackledorfer: So as I have said for decades, increase their funding so they can catch more fraud. It should have a literally positive monetary return on dollars spent.


set aside $500 million to hire 5000+ agents purely to assess fraud.  the human element should be used to detect these things, not some software system easy to exploit.  the same for medicare/medicaid fraud.  as long they prevent more than their budget then they are worth every penny.
 
2013-11-08 12:12:16 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Sim Tree: Why are 340 income tax refunds going to one single address in Bulgaria? Shouldn't the computer kick out obvious edge cases for human oversight, at the very least?

Have you not paid attention to the abilities of computer systems that government contractors put together?


By that you mean what computer programmers on private sector companies put together on the taxpayer dime, right? Because it is private contractors who do this work, and they are not accountable to anyone. It's not like computer scientists have an ethics code once they graduate, and private sector contractors are impossible to chase for shoddy work.
 
2013-11-08 12:25:29 AM

Smeggy Smurf: So you hate it based on emotion.  What is it that you hate?  The fact that it treats everybody equally, just like shiat?  Or that it doesn't punish success while enabling the failures?


I will note that hating and thinking it's a good policy are not necessarily mutually exclusive.*

My intuition doesn't like it because it doesn't seem like it gives much deference to the fact that money doesn't have anywhere close to linear value, which is why people who argue that progressive taxes "punish success" are full of crap. However, I acknowledge that there are people who know a lot more about economics than I do who would dispute my intuition, and I can't say that I've looked into it as an informed option.

* For instance, I hate a lot of the things Obama has done, and the way he's done them. If I could go back to 2008 or 2012 and change my vote (or even the whole election outcome) would I do it? Abso-freaking-lutely not. (This analogy isn't great.)
 
2013-11-08 12:36:43 AM

evilbryan: No no, food stamp fraud is more important!

If one poor person eats a hot dog they didn't deserve, that's the end of the American dream!


grizzlybomb.com
 
2013-11-08 01:03:33 AM
just more proof that the feds are incapable of efficient management to the extent that even some of the simplest safeguards against fraud are absent.another reason ACA is probably not a good idea. it just puts them in charge of more money, and grows an already bloated and wasteful bureaucracy..
 
2013-11-08 01:06:06 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Sending a refund overseas should raise a flag in the first place.


One would think, but they have eagle eyes when it comes to nailing me and a tax-dodging ex-wife years ago and my feet are still firmly on this continent.
 
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