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2013-11-07 04:11:26 PM
I, too, am pro-life.

I'm also pro-choice.
 
2013-11-07 04:17:41 PM
Same here. Pro life, pro choice. Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I'm like Wendy Davis more and more every day.
 
2013-11-07 04:17:52 PM
LOL, FTFA:  Conservatives believe that title should be strictly given to anti-abortion rights politicians like Governor Rick Perry (R-TX), who has executed more prisoners than any modern American governor, breaking the record of another "pro-lifer" - George W. Bush.
 
2013-11-07 04:20:27 PM

asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.


I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.
 
2013-11-07 04:23:33 PM
Get 'em, Wendy.
 
2013-11-07 04:26:54 PM
Pro-birthers need to go get their own damn uterus.  If you want to carry some smelly guys infection to term, that's your business.
 
2013-11-07 04:29:41 PM
"I am pro-life," she said, "I care about the life of every child: every child that goes to bed hungry, every child that goes to bed without a proper education, every child that goes to bed without being able to be a part of the Texas dream, every woman and man who worry about their children's future and their ability to provide for that future. I care about life and I have a record of fighting for people above all else."

Well I can certainly see what all the fuss is about.  This is heresy.  Crazy talk.  Socialist even.
 
2013-11-07 04:34:54 PM

Marcus Aurelius: "I am pro-life," she said, "I care about the life of every child: every child that goes to bed hungry, every child that goes to bed without a proper education, every child that goes to bed without being able to be a part of the Texas dream, every woman and man who worry about their children's future and their ability to provide for that future. I care about life and I have a record of fighting for people above all else."

Well I can certainly see what all the fuss is about.  This is heresy.  Crazy talk.  Socialist even.


Wait, you mean pro-life should involve something besides policing women's uterii? That the phrase should indicate someone wants to serve life, by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and seeing that people get access to the necessities of life?
 
2013-11-07 04:36:17 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business".


Is entirely acceptable to me.
 
2013-11-07 04:44:28 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.


Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.
 
2013-11-07 04:46:14 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.


I think the latter. Because even if there is no moral attachment to it, it's an invasive medical procedure when there are much cheaper, easier, and safer birth control methods. And even without the moral attachment, there is a psychological factor that still makes it a difficult choice for people who are willing to make it.
 
2013-11-07 04:46:22 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control,"


That usually how I mean it when I use that phrase.
 
2013-11-07 04:48:22 PM
Until there are no children available for adoption anywhere in the world, you woman-hating anti-choice losers can suck it.

Against abortion? Adopt a kid, asshole.
 
2013-11-07 05:00:02 PM

Calmamity: Adopt a kid, asshole.


I am against assholes adopting kids.
 
2013-11-07 05:09:44 PM
"Pro-life" is the biggest bullshiat euphemism/Orwellian propaganda term in the history of forever

Bloody William: Wait, you mean pro-life should involve something besides policing women's uterii? That the phrase should indicate someone wants to serve life, by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and seeing that people get access to the necessities of life?


WWJD?

Bomb an abortion clinic, of course.
 
2013-11-07 05:09:54 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Calmamity: Adopt a kid, asshole.

I am against assholes adopting kids.


What an asshole adopting kids looks like:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-07 05:10:03 PM
Branding is important. Maybe they should re-label it the "freedom fetus flush." Surely no one could be against that.
 
2013-11-07 05:10:32 PM
ahahahaha  She may be an even greater troll than Obama.  Good for her.
 
2013-11-07 05:11:58 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.


There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.
 
2013-11-07 05:12:27 PM

Calmamity: Until there are no children available for adoption anywhere in the world, you woman-hating anti-choice losers can suck it.

Against abortion? Adopt a kid, asshole.


You calling people names on the internet isn't helping them either, but feel free to keep believing that. "Hey, nobody wants to adopt me and get me out of Nofoodistan, but I'll sleep well knowing FARK posters have my back!"
 
2013-11-07 05:14:07 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.


I think abortion should be celebrated. Maybe they should hand out stickers. And throw confetti.
 
2013-11-07 05:18:34 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.


That's exactly what it means.

And guess who typically stands in the way of those goals?

Yeah, the "pro-life" assholes and  "Abstinence only" farkwads.  (usually the same douchebags)
 
2013-11-07 05:25:42 PM
I think the best way to explore and resolve the debate on abortion is not to have an open, honest discussion of the moral and ethical considerations, with appropriate respect and sensitivity for multiple points of view, but to argue semantics and to make sweeping generalizations and basically call each other assholes for not agreeing.
 
2013-11-07 05:30:17 PM
A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.
 
2013-11-07 05:33:33 PM

Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.


Forget to change logins there?
 
2013-11-07 05:33:47 PM

Nabb1: I think the best way to explore and resolve the debate on abortion is not to have an open, honest discussion of the moral and ethical considerations, with appropriate respect and sensitivity for multiple points of view, but to argue semantics and to make sweeping generalizations and basically call each other assholes for not agreeing.


I think the best way is to set off bombs and shoot people.

To-may-to, to-mah-to

Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.


po-tay-to, po-tah-to
 
2013-11-07 05:37:04 PM

Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.


What's this about a fine ass?
 
2013-11-07 05:38:11 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

That's exactly what it means.

And guess who typically stands in the way of those goals?

Yeah, the "pro-life" assholes and  "Abstinence only" farkwads.  (usually the same douchebags)


A Venn diagram of Pro life, Abstinence Only and Pro-Death Penalty farkers looks like the flag of Japan.
 
2013-11-07 05:39:06 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Nabb1: I think the best way to explore and resolve the debate on abortion is not to have an open, honest discussion of the moral and ethical considerations, with appropriate respect and sensitivity for multiple points of view, but to argue semantics and to make sweeping generalizations and basically call each other assholes for not agreeing.

I think the best way is to set off bombs and shoot people.

To-may-to, to-mah-to

Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.

po-tay-to, po-tah-to


I've never set off bombs or shot people, so I appreciate your effort to avoid discussing the issue directly. I don't think the law will change anytime soon and I think opponents would better focus their energies elsewhere. No doubt, however, future societies will look upon the practice the same way we look at primitive cultures who practice human sacrifice - a needless act of a savage and unsophisticated society. But in the meantime, enjoy your victory. You've worked very hard to secure abortion rights with your efforts, no doubt.
 
2013-11-07 05:41:39 PM

dr_blasto: Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.

What's this about a fine ass?


Well, we are talking about Wendy Davis...

/shoutouts to my first greenlight (haven't submitted much, but Davis is a good way to start)
 
2013-11-07 05:42:08 PM
All of this attention will only make her eventual defeat all the more devastating.
 
2013-11-07 05:44:18 PM
It's not "pro-birth", it's "pro-forced-birth"
 
2013-11-07 05:44:58 PM

Nabb1: No doubt, however, future societies will look upon the practice the same way we look at primitive cultures who practice human sacrifice - a needless act of a savage and unsophisticated society.


Oh jesus christ. Abortion has been around for thousands of years and it will never go away. It is no less moral than any other medical procedure. Get off your concerned high horse and get the f*ck over it.
 
2013-11-07 05:45:04 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.


What's your address? You know, so the ladies can send you their used tampons so that you may give them a proper Christian burial.
 
2013-11-07 05:45:10 PM
I've never understood why people think "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are mutually exclusive. It's like those bumper stickers that say "Smile! Your mom chose life"; the operative word is "chose", not "life".
 
2013-11-07 05:45:15 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.


Define "murder".
 
2013-11-07 05:46:46 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Murder is generally regarded as wrong.


Well then, good thing abortion isn't murder!
 
2013-11-07 05:46:54 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Nabb1: No doubt, however, future societies will look upon the practice the same way we look at primitive cultures who practice human sacrifice - a needless act of a savage and unsophisticated society.

Oh jesus christ. Abortion has been around for thousands of years and it will never go away. It is no less moral than any other medical procedure. Get off your concerned high horse and get the f*ck over it.


It seems you have a real problem with people not sharing your point of view. If it will be around for so long, there's no need to be so insecure.
 
2013-11-07 05:47:19 PM

super_grass: All of this attention will only make her eventual defeat all the more devastating.


trollcats.com
 
2013-11-07 05:47:41 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.


But it is not murder.
 
2013-11-07 05:48:25 PM

Nabb1: No doubt, however, future societies will look upon the practice the same way we look at primitive cultures who practice human sacrifice - a needless act of a savage and unsophisticated society. But in the meantime, enjoy your victory.


Why is there no doubt?  Isn't it possible that a future society could look back on the practice as exactly what it is?  A safe medical procedure to remove some growing cells from the uterus.  Could this future society also look back at abortion being illegal and the deaths that caused and find those needless and savage?

Your prescience seems to be on shaky ground.
 
2013-11-07 05:48:38 PM

phalamir: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.

But it is not murder.


Only before 6 weeks.
 
2013-11-07 05:48:57 PM

Nabb1: It seems you have a real problem with people not sharing your point of view.


No, I'm pretty sure he takes issue with people posting stupid bullshiat fantasies that have no basis in reality.
 
2013-11-07 05:49:38 PM

someonelse: super_grass: All of this attention will only make her eventual defeat all the more devastating.

[trollcats.com image 500x313]


That cat looks  really concerned. I would pet that cat every time it came up to me looking for attention. :3
 
2013-11-07 05:49:46 PM

fusillade762: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.

Define "murder".


The killing if another human being.

Define human being.
 
2013-11-07 05:50:32 PM

qorkfiend: I've never understood why people think "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are mutually exclusive. It's like those bumper stickers that say "Smile! Your mom chose life"; the operative word is "chose", not "life".


Louisiana came out with a license plate that reads "Choose life." Some pro-choices became totally unhinged over it, which I found odd, since it inherently involves choice. Recognizing that "Choose abortion!" Probably wouldn't go over that well, they demanded a "Choose Choice" plate, which I kind of wish had happened since it sounds so incredibly dumb.
 
2013-11-07 05:50:39 PM

Nabb1: It seems you have a real problem with people not sharing your point of view.


I do, when your point of view advocates for restricting the rights of women that are none of your goddamn business.
 
2013-11-07 05:51:07 PM

Nabb1: Lionel Mandrake: Nabb1: I think the best way to explore and resolve the debate on abortion is not to have an open, honest discussion of the moral and ethical considerations, with appropriate respect and sensitivity for multiple points of view, but to argue semantics and to make sweeping generalizations and basically call each other assholes for not agreeing.

I think the best way is to set off bombs and shoot people.

To-may-to, to-mah-to

Nabb1: A woman's body is her own domain and what she chooses to do with it is her own private business,

Unless she doesn't insure that body, in which case you better believe we're going to fine her ass.

po-tay-to, po-tah-to

I've never set off bombs or shot people, so I appreciate your effort to avoid discussing the issue directly. I don't think the law will change anytime soon and I think opponents would better focus their energies elsewhere. No doubt, however, future societies will look upon the practice the same way we look at primitive cultures who practice human sacrifice - a needless act of a savage and unsophisticated society. But in the meantime, enjoy your victory. You've worked very hard to secure abortion rights with your efforts, no doubt.


Did you ask a direct question?  I missed it.  Ask again and I shall endeavor to answer directly.
 
2013-11-07 05:52:22 PM

Nabb1: qorkfiend: I've never understood why people think "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are mutually exclusive. It's like those bumper stickers that say "Smile! Your mom chose life"; the operative word is "chose", not "life".

Louisiana came out with a license plate that reads "Choose life." Some pro-choices became totally unhinged over it, which I found odd, since it inherently involves choice. Recognizing that "Choose abortion!" Probably wouldn't go over that well, they demanded a "Choose Choice" plate, which I kind of wish had happened since it sounds so incredibly dumb.


So, what, "choice" is now a euphemism for "abortion?"
 
2013-11-07 05:52:34 PM

sendtodave: fusillade762: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Dusk-You-n-Me: asquian: Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare.

I urge you to change this to "safe, legal, and none of your goddamn business". Or something else. Or drop the rare entirely.

Keeping the "rare" implicitly endorses all the restrictions on abortion the GOP is and has been passing. "It's still safe and legal! We're just making it more rare - that's what you want, right?" No bueno.

Yeah, the "rare" part has always irked me as well. Unless it's an awkward way to phrase "and rare in order to limit the possibility of complications in the mother" or "and rare because it will be paired with comprehensive sex education and birth control," it basically admits that there's something inherently wrong about abortion and by extension those women who seek out abortions.

There is. Murder is generally regarded as wrong.

Define "murder".

The killing if another human being.

Define human being.


The life form this was built to fit.

www.law.berkeley.edu
 
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