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(Voxy (New Zealand))   Remember in school, they said the Senate has to approve all foreign treaties before they're ratified? Apparently if a treaty lines up perfectly with our existing laws, and the President's name starts with an O, that doesn't apply   (voxy.co.nz) divider line 57
    More: Spiffy, Senate, mercury pollution, United States, Assistant Secretary of State, United Nations Environment Programme, Dr Jones, treaty, Achim Steiner  
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2013-11-07 04:41:25 PM  
A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...
 
2013-11-07 04:42:08 PM  
First!

/makes as much sense as some of the greens lately
 
2013-11-07 04:43:24 PM  

Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...


Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.
 
2013-11-07 04:44:34 PM  
In a statement the United States State Department said Wednesday: The United States has already taken significant steps to reduce the amount of mercury we generate and release to the environment, and can implement Convention obligations under existing legislative and regulatory authority. The Minamata Convention complements domestic measures by addressing the transnational nature of the problem".


Histories.

Greatest.

Monster.


pjmedia.com
 
2013-11-07 04:46:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.


This. Happening more lately.

For reference, see my earlier comment
 
2013-11-07 04:48:07 PM  
The Global Corporatocracy is Almost Fully Operational

1. Strip governments of their authority to regulate exports of oil or natural gas to any TPP nation. This would create an explosion of the destructive fracking process across the globe, for energy giants could export fracked gas from and to any member nation without any governmental review of the environmental and economic impacts on local communities - or on our respective national interests.

2. Prohibit transaction taxes (such as the proposed Robin Hood Tax) that would shut down speculators who have repeatedly triggered financial crises and economic crashes around the world. It would also restrict "firewall" reforms that separate consumer banking from risky investment banking, as well as providing provides an escape from national rules that would limit the size of "too-big-to-fail" behemoths

It's worth noting that these are merely the proposals that have made it into the public eye - thanks purely to the actions of a brave (or as the Obama administration would have it, criminal) whistle-blower. Who's to say what else is being planned behind our backs and in the conference rooms of some of the world's most expensive hotels?
 
2013-11-07 04:48:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.


Mods are gods.
 
2013-11-07 04:48:48 PM  
Remember when subby was so butthurt about Obama that he downplayed any possible significant accomplishment from the Obama administration?

So do I.
 
2013-11-07 04:51:58 PM  
Let me guess, since Obama came out against Mercury in our environment, the Republicans in the House are going to pass a law mandating higher levels of mercury in all products manufactured in the US.
 
2013-11-07 04:54:46 PM  
Troll thread. You've been warned.
 
2013-11-07 04:55:28 PM  

sendtodave: cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.

Mods are gods.


Mods don't green links.
 
2013-11-07 04:59:14 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: sendtodave: cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.

Mods are gods.

Mods don't green links.


Admins are all wins.
 
2013-11-07 04:59:31 PM  

BMulligan: Troll thread. You've been warned.


No kidding. A non-binding treaty is suddenly another call for impeachment.

Subby should be outed.
 
2013-11-07 04:59:35 PM  
Bear in mind that Republicans in some state legislatures have voted to prohibit state funding of renewable energy projects on the basis that they will enable a United Nations takeover via Agenda 21; therefore, acting to reduce mercury emissions may reasonably be construed as a treasonous act meriting impeachment.
 
2013-11-07 05:00:45 PM  
lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-11-07 05:04:22 PM  
Subby: "Let's greenlight stupid crap."
Admin: "BRILLIANT!"

I respect you both.
 
2013-11-07 05:05:12 PM  

whidbey: Remember when subby was so butthurt about Obama that he downplayed any possible significant accomplishment from the Obama administration?

So do I.


You know who else remembers?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
 
2013-11-07 05:09:37 PM  

grumpfuff: whidbey: Remember when subby was so butthurt about Obama that he downplayed any possible significant accomplishment from the Obama administration?

So do I.

You know who else remembers?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Well, they certainly remembered how to pump tons of money into defeating a popular state initiative that would have required the labeling of GMOs here in Washington State. Along with Pepsi, Coke, Monsanto and a whole bunch of other businesses I wonder if I should be giving my money from now on.


Memmmmoooreees
 
2013-11-07 05:10:35 PM  

BMulligan: Troll thread. You've been warned.


In what can only be described as an incredible coincidence, all of the threadshiatting trolls I have on ignore stopped posting at the same time.

Bizarre.
 
2013-11-07 05:16:28 PM  

whidbey: grumpfuff: whidbey: Remember when subby was so butthurt about Obama that he downplayed any possible significant accomplishment from the Obama administration?

So do I.

You know who else remembers?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Well, they certainly remembered how to pump tons of money into defeating a popular state initiative that would have required the labeling of GMOs here in Washington State. Along with Pepsi, Coke, Monsanto and a whole bunch of other businesses I wonder if I should be giving my money from now on.


Memmmmoooreees


Huh. I did not know Pepperidge Farms was owned by Campbell. I was only going for the Family Guy reference.
 
2013-11-07 05:17:22 PM  
No but I do remember where the executive branch abrogated ratified treaties without the consent or comment of the Senate.

You know, Bush and Cheney. And the rest of the you know who youth.
 
2013-11-07 05:17:32 PM  

grumpfuff: I did not know Pepperidge Farms was owned by Campbell.


I didn't either. But I had a hunch they were amongst the shadowy naysayers, so I Googled it.

And I'm almost sorry I did. :\
 
2013-11-07 05:17:35 PM  

DORMAMU: First!

Um, how did that not get transformed into "Boobies!"?

 
2013-11-07 05:21:10 PM  

whidbey: grumpfuff: I did not know Pepperidge Farms was owned by Campbell.

I didn't either. But I had a hunch they were amongst the shadowy naysayers, so I Googled it.

And I'm almost sorry I did. :\


As am I. For shame. I like Pepperidge Farms. :/

flondrix: DORMAMU: First!

Um, how did that not get transformed into "Boobies!"?


He didn't include the word post. At least I think that's what it is.
 
2013-11-07 05:22:04 PM  
Wait, Congress already gave the EPA power to create mercury regs, leaving specific levels up to them.

Any ratification would just be a nod to the actual treaty, and have no effect on what the EPA already does.
 
2013-11-07 05:22:54 PM  

DORMAMU: cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.

This. Happening more lately.

For reference, see my earlier comment


Dude, you're lucky your post isn't dated sometime tomorrow. Feeling regressive today?
 
2013-11-07 05:25:47 PM  

grumpfuff: whidbey: grumpfuff: I did not know Pepperidge Farms was owned by Campbell.

I didn't either. But I had a hunch they were amongst the shadowy naysayers, so I Googled it.

And I'm almost sorry I did. :\

As am I. For shame. I like Pepperidge Farms. :/

flondrix: DORMAMU: First!

Um, how did that not get transformed into "Boobies!"?

He didn't include the word post. At least I think that's what it is.


I actually jumped in when it still had 0 posts.

The plan was to say "first" but it be second. It worked fairly well... somehow.
 
2013-11-07 05:26:43 PM  

whidbey: DORMAMU: cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.

This. Happening more lately.

For reference, see my earlier comment

Dude, you're lucky your post isn't dated sometime tomorrow. Feeling regressive today?


See my reply to grumpfuff
 
2013-11-07 05:27:14 PM  
ITT: Victims of political vaginal silicosis fail to identify a parody headline. Fark: Headline was poking fun at the other side.

/"spiffy" tag was a dead giveaway.
 
2013-11-07 05:28:27 PM  

DORMAMU: See my reply to grumpfuff


I'd still ban you.
 
2013-11-07 05:33:17 PM  
Repeat from disabilities treaty (based on our ADA) and arms control act (which would not have affected the US in any way)
 
2013-11-07 05:38:57 PM  
The United States has become the first nation to complete the next and final step after Kerri-Ann Jones, Assistant Secretary of State for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs deposited the 'instrument of acceptance' at the United Nations' headquarters on Wednesday.

Is that anything like the Stone of Shame?
 
2013-11-07 05:39:35 PM  

BMulligan: Troll thread. You've been warned.


They are all troll threads these days.
 
2013-11-07 05:46:23 PM  
Subby, they also called you names in school, too. Terrible names.
 
2013-11-07 05:54:52 PM  

whidbey: DORMAMU: See my reply to grumpfuff

I'd still ban you.


Meh.

Happened before When I was mocking a surge of greenlights from crappy sites.

Just mocking the some of the eyebrow stuff that appears to be starting again.

/who mocks the mockers?
 
2013-11-07 05:56:38 PM  
I read about this yesterday.  I was pleased, since I've been to Minamata, met victims of "Minamata Disease," and think of Hg poisoning as, well, a bad thing.

I was also perplexed, since I'm an American and I know that America doesn't ratify these kinds of things, especially environmental things.  Scarily, a couple friends who teach international politics - and who would normally be the ones explaining this sort of thing to me - were also perplexed.

I emailed folks in charge of the treaty at UNEP, and they said the Americans had assured them it was all legit, but they really had no idea why that was.  This wasn't very reassuring.  I emailed folks in the State Department - they were happy, but didn't explain.

Finally, a few minutes ago, one of the professors forwarded an explanation from another professor: the State Department's foreign affairs manual says under "Agreements Pursuant to Legislation" that "the President may conclude an international agreement on the basis of existing legislation."  It's called a "sole executive agreement" apparently, which I'd never heard of - not defined in the constitution, but a power gradually given to the President over the years.

And although the Senate occasionally biatches about a President using it for one thing or another, strangely they can never come up with the votes to do anything about the President committing the US to, ya know, keep following our existing laws.

So... well played, Obama.  Well played.

Now who's going to be the first to start the "Obama did an end-run around Congress!  Imbalance of government powers!  Jackbooted UN thugs are going to take our Mercurochrome and thermometers!" wharrgarbl?
 
2013-11-07 05:58:34 PM  

Kuroshin: BMulligan: Troll thread. You've been warned.

They are all troll threads these days.


Not the ones where they mock the Republicans. Those are truth to power.
 
2013-11-07 06:53:53 PM  

whidbey: Well, they certainly remembered how to pump tons of money into defeating a popular state initiative that would have required the labeling of GMOs here in Washington State.


How about labeling non-GMOs instead?

Then ignorant Luddites can enjoy their expensive Amish/Organic foodstuffs and leave the rest of us out of it.
 
2013-11-07 06:58:15 PM  
Oh look, a story spun to make Obama look bad. That's not new at all.


How many down votes can we give to this lame excuse of a thread?
I challenge fark to get it below minus twenty before I go to bed tonight,
 
2013-11-07 07:10:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Tarl3k: A misleading headline that has nothing to do with the article linked?!?!  On my Fark.com!?!?!  You don't say...

Greenlit with 0 comments too. Curious.


Don't underestimate fark. I'm sure there's a few modmins getting cash on the side. Wikipedia isn't the only compromised site.
 
2013-11-07 07:11:45 PM  

Without Fail: whidbey: Well, they certainly remembered how to pump tons of money into defeating a popular state initiative that would have required the labeling of GMOs here in Washington State.

How about labeling non-GMOs instead?

Then ignorant Luddites can enjoy their expensive Amish/Organic foodstuffs and leave the rest of us out of it.


In their defense, it also lets people stick the finger to Monsanto.

And they need a good fingerin'
 
2013-11-07 07:13:16 PM  
I know a blah girl named Sarah....
 
2013-11-07 07:15:09 PM  

SilentStrider: Oh look, a story spun to make Obama look bad. That's not new at all.


It's a headline with the spiffy tag mocking baseless Obama criticism coming from the blogosphere. The article source is from New Zealand. I think it's O-safe.

/Jesus, is the whole tab taking crazy pills?
 
2013-11-07 07:43:20 PM  
I know this is a troll thread, but I just want to note that not all treaties have to be approved by the Senate.
 
2013-11-07 07:45:38 PM  

super_grass: SilentStrider: Oh look, a story spun to make Obama look bad. That's not new at all.

It's a headline with the spiffy tag mocking baseless Obama criticism coming from the blogosphere. The article source is from New Zealand. I think it's O-safe.

/Jesus, is the whole tab taking crazy pills?


When you think everyone else is insane, the crazy one is you.
 
2013-11-07 08:02:41 PM  
Sounds like time for another Random Image Thread. I'll start:

www.ryanphotographic.com
 
2013-11-07 08:31:35 PM  
Sounds like Obummer is trying place the federal government squarely between the people and the free market. Who wouldn't want Mercury in the environment? It's so shiny and fun to play with.
 
2013-11-07 10:03:31 PM  
If I was president and the opposition has made it clear that they will not work with me under any circumstances, even if it means sinking the country, I would be bending the rules as much as I could to get around them too.

If the GOP doesn't like it, then they shouldn't have been assholes.
 
2013-11-07 10:17:38 PM  

LoneWolf343: If I was president and the opposition has made it clear that they will not work with me under any circumstances, even if it means sinking the country, I would be bending the rules as much as I could to get around them too.

If the GOP doesn't like it, then they shouldn't have been assholes.


I don't think it's just the GOP - the Dems have a majority in the Senate, yet there's still a load of things we've signed but not ratified.  The Senate is where ratifications go to die.  Maybe some of the more conservative Dems have drunk the "b-b-but sovereignty!" kool-aid.
 
2013-11-07 10:40:56 PM  

dbirchall: LoneWolf343: If I was president and the opposition has made it clear that they will not work with me under any circumstances, even if it means sinking the country, I would be bending the rules as much as I could to get around them too.

If the GOP doesn't like it, then they shouldn't have been assholes.

I don't think it's just the GOP - the Dems have a majority in the Senate, yet there's still a load of things we've signed but not ratified.  The Senate is where ratifications go to die.  Maybe some of the more conservative Dems have drunk the "b-b-but sovereignty!" kool-aid.


Filibusters.
 
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