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(NPR)   Sorry, GOP, but Obama doesn't care about his dropping poll numbers. Here's why   (npr.org) divider line 122
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2013-11-07 12:48:16 PM
If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.
 
2013-11-07 12:53:34 PM
40% is practically a ticker tape parade compared to what the republicans have.
 
2013-11-07 12:59:30 PM

James!: 40% is practically a ticker tape parade compared to what the republicans have.


I think the GOP would kill to have a 40% approval rating. Especially after the damage Cruz did to them with that shutdown bullshiat.
 
2013-11-07 01:01:49 PM
"I'm not up for re-election b*tches. I got my 8"
www.independent.co.uk
 
2013-11-07 01:02:49 PM
Also, if Obama should be sweating his 40% the republicans ought to be shiatting bricks.
 
2013-11-07 01:03:52 PM

bdub77: If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.


The dickish thing is that Freepers currently have a massive hard-on for Putin (who is serving a third term even though the Russian constitution has term limits). Anything to hate the black guy, I guess.
 
2013-11-07 01:04:49 PM
I don't think he ever really did.
 
2013-11-07 01:11:41 PM
He's the nation's First Black President, the first to successfully pass a healthcare law in decades, and he ordered the killing of Osama bin Laden. He's already guaranteed a monumental place in the history books, you think he gives a flying fark about 40% approval, at a time when his opposition has historically low ratings? Fark off.
 
2013-11-07 01:15:19 PM
Jeez, if his numbers continue this freefall, he'll only be slightly more popular than the GOP when he leaves office.
 
2013-11-07 01:25:55 PM
The thing about tying so much of their fortune to bashing Obamacare for the Republicans is that it really could backfire on them. By the time the 2014 mid-term elections roll around, it may very well be that the website issues are ironed out and people are ending up getting better insurance for less money. Of course, if it's still a clusterfark, the Democrats will suffer.

But that's why the Republican Party is pushing this. They need Obamacare to fail to do well in 2014 and even 2016.
 
2013-11-07 01:37:55 PM
I disagree with this. Democratic accountability is about more the election; it's about respect for the opinions of the people in general. This argument that "well, he's never running again, and there's no political advantage to it anyways, so who cares" is the same one people were making for Bush in 2007. It's crap.
 
2013-11-07 01:38:13 PM

jake_lex: The thing about tying so much of their fortune to bashing Obamacare for the Republicans is that it really could backfire on them. By the time the 2014 mid-term elections roll around, it may very well be that the website issues are ironed out and people are ending up getting better insurance for less money. Of course, if it's still a clusterfark, the Democrats will suffer.

But that's why the Republican Party is pushing this. They need Obamacare to fail to do well in 2014 and even 2016.


It's highly unlikely that it will remain a clusterfark.  Some people will think so, because they will be paying a fine and not getting health insurance.
 
2013-11-07 01:43:59 PM

DamnYankees: I disagree with this. Democratic accountability is about more the election; it's about respect for the opinions of the people in general. This argument that "well, he's never running again, and there's no political advantage to it anyways, so who cares" is the same one people were making for Bush in 2007. It's crap.


The opinions of the people in general gave Honey Boo-Boo high ratings. I'd rather sort opinions into "thoughtful and considered" or "insane and baseless" and judge accordingly.
 
2013-11-07 01:49:52 PM
say what you will about conservatives, they certainly have a unbelievable amount of control over the media narrative
 
2013-11-07 01:51:27 PM
Poll's closed.
 
2013-11-07 01:52:05 PM

bdub77: If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.


Worst third term ever.
 
2013-11-07 01:52:32 PM

themindiswatching: bdub77: If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.

The dickish thing is that Freepers currently have a massive hard-on for Putin (who is serving a third term even though the Russian constitution has term limits). Anything to hate the black guy, I guess.


You're surprised freepers like an authoritarian strongman?
 
2013-11-07 01:52:46 PM
Yeah, I guess I'd be worried if Obama's opposition wasn't a giant pile of retards trying to set the country on fire.
 
2013-11-07 01:56:36 PM
Remember when Bush had an approval rating in the 20s and the Republicans were all saying "It's because he makes the hard decisions!"

Amazing how 40s% is horrible for a Democrat but 20s% is GREAT for a Republican.

I just they would be consistent with their BS just once.
 
2013-11-07 01:57:32 PM

jake_lex: The thing about tying so much of their fortune to bashing Obamacare for the Republicans is that it really could backfire on them. By the time the 2014 mid-term elections roll around, it may very well be that the website issues are ironed out and people are ending up getting better insurance for less money. Of course, if it's still a clusterfark, the Democrats will suffer.

But that's why the Republican Party is pushing this. They need Obamacare to fail to do well in 2014 and even 2016.


Well they have to push the perception that Obamacare has done badly,  and while actual flaws and problems with it make it easier they aren't strictly necessary, as their history on a number of other topics has shown.
 
2013-11-07 01:59:12 PM
If President Obama suddenly announced unqualified support for the entire Republican Party platform, Republicans in Congress would instantly move the entire platform further to the right and condemn him for supporting insufficiently conservative positions.
 
2013-11-07 02:03:14 PM

Serious Black: If President Obama suddenly announced unqualified support for the entire Republican Party platform, Republicans in Congress would instantly move the entire platform further to the right and condemn him for supporting insufficiently conservative positions.


Unless they stepped off the edge of the Earth and fell onto A'Tuin's shell instead.


Hmmmm.....maybe it's worth a try.
 
2013-11-07 02:04:30 PM
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2013-11-07 02:05:26 PM
 
2013-11-07 02:06:29 PM
Well, I don't know about anyoen else, but I'm certainly not going to vote for him for President again.
 
2013-11-07 02:07:59 PM

Corvus: Remember when Bush had an approval rating in the 20s and the Republicans were all saying "It's because he makes the hard decisions!"

Amazing how 40s% is horrible for a Democrat but 20s% is GREAT for a Republican.

I just they would be consistent with their BS just once.


You don't get it.  He has a higher approval rating because he makes the wrong decisions.

Americans are just masochists.
 
2013-11-07 02:08:24 PM
If the rollout of ACA is the main reason his poll numbers are down then it is no biggie.  Since the elections are over, the litany of Obamacare Sucks stories have slowed.  I only counted one today and two yesterday.  We were getting 5, 6, 7 Obamacare Sucks stories a day before the election.  It is almost as if a political party was pushing the "Obamacare Sucks" story to help with the election.  Also, the web site WILL get fixed putting that story to rest.  People who lost their insurance will get new better insurance which will put that story to rest.  If the ACA rollout is the reason for lower poll numbers then the dip is only temporary.
 
2013-11-07 02:11:49 PM
I see his numbers going way up in 2014.    Hopenchange.

Or he might get impeached... whatever
 
2013-11-07 02:12:28 PM

Corvus: Remember when Bush had an approval rating in the 20s and the Republicans were all saying "It's because he makes the hard decisions!"

Amazing how 40s% is horrible for a Democrat but 20s% is GREAT for a Republican.

I just they would be consistent with their BS just once.


Did you know the Republicans were the true winners in the Virginia govenors race in yesterday even though fewer people voted for their candidate?  Just ask them.
 
2013-11-07 02:12:49 PM

themindiswatching: bdub77: If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.

The dickish thing is that Freepers currently have a massive hard-on for Putin (who is serving a third term even though the Russian constitution has term limits). Anything to hate the black guy, I guess.


Putin is everything they want in a leader. He takes manly photos, he talks tough, he hates the gays, and he doesn't let bullshiat like elections or opposing views stop him from doing what he wants. Most Freepers would be much happier in Russia than they are in America.
 
2013-11-07 02:13:17 PM

DamnYankees: I disagree with this. Democratic accountability is about more the election; it's about respect for the opinions of the people in general. This argument that "well, he's never running again, and there's no political advantage to it anyways, so who cares" is the same one people were making for Bush in 2007. It's crap.


Obama has never been a much of a votes man; he's a dialogue man. He lets the votes take care of themselves.

Normally, this doesn't work so well when you're in power. People are more or less already convinced of what you want, so you're not going to convince them harder: you have to chase votes to stay in power. But Obama plays an exceptional dialogue game, while... well... I could say that the Republicans have dropped the ball on their dialogue game, but that would be an insult to spherical objects, the act of dropping things, and the definite article. That kind of perfect storm lets Obama continue to press on the dialogue side and still have it work, so why the heck not? It works for him.
 
2013-11-07 02:14:19 PM
even though I know he cannot be re-elected in 2016, as do most other farkers, I still think there is money to be made printing and selling "Obama 2016" bumper stickers.
 
2013-11-07 02:16:04 PM

Lando Lincoln: a giant pile of retards trying to set the country on fire.


Get out of my head!
 
2013-11-07 02:17:28 PM

netcentric: I see his numbers going way up in 2014.    Hopenchange.

Or he might get impeached... whatever


That's a great idea.  Another BS impeachment of a Democratic president will truly be the path back to glory for the GOP.
 
2013-11-07 02:18:51 PM

netcentric: Or he might get impeached... whatever


On what grounds?
 
2013-11-07 02:20:09 PM

odinsposse: themindiswatching: bdub77: If that asshole thinks he's gonna get reelected in 2016 he's got another thing coming.

The dickish thing is that Freepers currently have a massive hard-on for Putin (who is serving a third term even though the Russian constitution has term limits). Anything to hate the black guy, I guess.

Putin is everything they want in a leader. He takes manly photos, he talks tough, he hates the gays, and he doesn't let bullshiat like elections or opposing views stop him from doing what he wants. Most Freepers would be much happier in Russia than they are in America.


Plus, he's White.  But that's just a bonus.
 
2013-11-07 02:20:50 PM

Hyjamon: even though I know he cannot be re-elected in 2016, as do most other farkers, I still think there is money to be made printing and selling "Obama 2016" bumper stickers.


Oh YEAH!
They have to say.

Repeal the 22nd Amendment!
Obama 2016.
 
2013-11-07 02:21:41 PM

Lionel Mandrake: netcentric: Or he might get impeached... whatever

On what grounds?


Presidenting while black.
 
2013-11-07 02:21:50 PM

netcentric: I see his numbers going way up in 2014.    Hopenchange.

Or he might get impeached... whatever


That would give him a 20% bump.
 
2013-11-07 02:22:53 PM

Jackson Herring: say what you will about conservatives, they certainly have a unbelievable amount of control over the media narrative


Dis.
 
2013-11-07 02:24:06 PM

Millennium: Normally, this doesn't work so well when you're in power. People are more or less already convinced of what you want, so you're not going to convince them harder: you have to chase votes to stay in power. But Obama plays an exceptional dialogue game,


Obama doesn't like spiking the football.   Obama got Russa to disarm Syria of chemical weapons without firing a shot! If it were a republican president that did that then we'd be talking about putting his face on Mt. Rushmore.  It was Obama, so the GOP calls it a disgrace that Russa has to do America's dirty work.
 
2013-11-07 02:24:29 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Hyjamon: even though I know he cannot be re-elected in 2016, as do most other farkers, I still think there is money to be made printing and selling "Obama 2016" bumper stickers.

Oh YEAH!
They have to say.

Repeal the 22nd and the 2nd Amendments!
Obama 2016.


motores.com.py
 
2013-11-07 02:25:23 PM

Lionel Mandrake: netcentric: Or he might get impeached... whatever

On what grounds?


Benghazi, duh!
 
2013-11-07 02:25:39 PM

HotWingConspiracy: netcentric: I see his numbers going way up in 2014.    Hopenchange.

Or he might get impeached... whatever

That would give him a 20% bump.


But it worked so well against Clinton!

Seriously, those are only plays in the Rs book: gin up the hard right, lose second term election, shut down the government out of poutrage and pique, then impeach the President over nonsense "reasons" and call it governing.

When that fails, Democratic president gets two years of doing things his way that lead us into an age of peace and prosperity.

That we piss away by electing a puppet nimrod from Texas and a group of neofeudal assholes who are still upset America said mean things about Nixon.
 
2013-11-07 02:26:28 PM

Muta: If the rollout of ACA is the main reason his poll numbers are down then it is no biggie.  Since the elections are over, the litany of Obamacare Sucks stories have slowed.  I only counted one today and two yesterday.  We were getting 5, 6, 7 Obamacare Sucks stories a day before the election.  It is almost as if a political party was pushing the "Obamacare Sucks" story to help with the election.  Also, the web site WILL get fixed putting that story to rest.  People who lost their insurance will get new better insurance which will put that story to rest.  If the ACA rollout is the reason for lower poll numbers then the dip is only temporary.


In my travels throughout the tardosphere I've noticed that the Foxbots are down to spamming comment boards with unverifiable and outlandish anecdotal stories about how Obamacare has raped them and wiped its dick off on the curtains.
 
2013-11-07 02:26:30 PM
Sad thing is that the Republicans could act all magnanimous and get involved in fixing the problems with Obamacare. Then they'd look like conquering heroes for the 2014 elections. Instead, they are going to stand in the way, they system will be fixed before November 2014, and they are going to look like fools. Again.
 
2013-11-07 02:29:30 PM
 
2013-11-07 02:29:42 PM
I'm really curious to see how Obama will be viewed 10 years after he's out of office. It seems like that's about enough time for the general public to forget the things they hated about you and start remembering what they liked (or in some cases, discovering things to like about you).

Clinton left office with the Lewinsky affair lingering like a dark cloud. Al Gore didn't even want him involved in the 2000 campaign. Ten years later he's Mr. Popular. Even some on the right seem to like Bubba now.

Bush left office with his poll numbers in the dumps, an economy in collapse, and the country suffering from war fatigue. Almost ten years later...he paints dogs, stays out of the limelight, and seems like like a kindly old retiree.

Any guesses on how Obama will be viewed in 2026? If recent history is a guide...I don't think he'll be nearly as disliked as he is now, even by some of his biggest critics.
 
2013-11-07 02:35:07 PM

DeaH: Sad thing is that the Republicans could act all magnanimous and get involved in fixing the problems with Obamacare. Then they'd look like conquering heroes for the 2014 elections. Instead, they are going to stand in the way, they system will be fixed before November 2014, and they are going to look like fools. Again.


Nope.
That would require them working with Democrats and proving that Big Gubbermint can work.
The only play they have left is to grind everything to a halt, shiat all over everything possible, then complain that everything is stinky.
 
2013-11-07 02:36:12 PM
His low numbers have a good chance of carrying over into the mid terms.  If the Rapeublicans get a supermajority in both houses you can bet your ass Fartbongo is going to be impeached.
 
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