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(Politico)   GOP graduates from "circle jerk" to "circle firing squad". Same procedure, twice as messy   (politico.com) divider line 102
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2013-11-07 07:58:23 AM  
Until someone gets shot it isn't a firing squad or a civil war it is just a disagreement about who will be the ring leader of the big tent and who gets put in the clown car.
 
2013-11-07 07:59:06 AM  
"The paternity suit over Cuccinelli's narrow loss is vigorously under way."

Who knew that an elephant could impregnate a chicken?
 
2013-11-07 08:06:17 AM  
how about "get better candidates"?
 
2013-11-07 08:08:56 AM  
"flawed candidate like McAuliffe"

There's an understatement.
 
2013-11-07 08:08:58 AM  
The way the conservatives on Fark and elsewhere were describing yesterday's loss as a victory tells me the GOP still haven't started the soul searching needed to become an organization that can handle the responsibility of governing.
 
2013-11-07 08:09:06 AM  
I've used Oxyclean to remove the blood of dead men, I've never used it to remove spunk. I don't know which is more difficult to clean up.
 
2013-11-07 08:10:04 AM  

Twist-42: how about "get better candidates"?


And (I think) we're done here...
 
2013-11-07 08:11:34 AM  

wildcardjack: remove the blood of dead men,


.....Dick? Dick Cheney? Is that you? :D
 
2013-11-07 08:11:59 AM  

Muta: The way the conservatives on Fark and elsewhere were describing yesterday's loss as a victory tells me the GOP still haven't started the soul searching needed to become an organization that can handle the responsibility of governing.


In fact, they got worst.

I actually kind of pity them seeing how they keep showing they cannot get through the day without lying to themselves.
 
2013-11-07 08:12:20 AM  
"The Republican Party needs to try to find out what went wrong in Virginia," Sen. Lindsey Graham

Nonsense.  Your candidate sucked more than their candidate sucked.  See Martha Coakley for example.
 
2013-11-07 08:12:44 AM  
what age is it where children are capable of learning from bad experiences

like if they touch a stove and it is hot they can realize that means not to touch the stove
 
2013-11-07 08:13:26 AM  
"But here is another fact that is all but beyond argument: If establishment Republicans in Virginia and nationally had shown more faith in their candidate, ignored the polls that showed him getting blown out, and ponied up the cash to prevent McAuliffe from outraising him by $15 million, then Cuccinelli would now be governor-elect."


If we just believe harder, ignore reality and spend more money, we will prevail!

*headdesk*
 
2013-11-07 08:13:56 AM  
Did they finally graduate from soggy biscuit?
 
2013-11-07 08:19:37 AM  

lockers: Did they finally graduate from soggy biscuit?


I had to google that....and regretted it instantly.
 
2013-11-07 08:19:58 AM  
Mostly the GOP hasn't skipped a step.  Cooch lost and they keep saying that it shows how upset the voters are about ObamaCare.

MacAuliffe was a terrible person and a terrible candidate.  He was an unlikable person and a Clinton fundraising crony who cashed in his chips to get this gig at the worst possible time.

...and he still won.
 
2013-11-07 08:21:04 AM  

miss diminutive: lockers: Did they finally graduate from soggy biscuit?

I had to google that....and regretted it instantly.


Rule #1027a - never Google any phrase you don't know on Fark. Ask a friend first.
 
2013-11-07 08:21:32 AM  

wildcardjack: I've used Oxyclean to remove the blood of dead men, I've never used it to remove spunk. I don't know which is more difficult to clean up.


images1.mtv.com
 Hugo there isn't a farkin laundry detergent or dry cleaning product known to man that will get that clean. Some shiat, suffice it to say, just don't wash out.
 
2013-11-07 08:22:59 AM  

miss diminutive: I had to google that....and regretted it instantly.


always look it up on your Urban Dictionary app on your phone! duh!
 
2013-11-07 08:23:26 AM  

lockers: Did they finally graduate from soggy biscuit?


Attended public boarding school in England?
 
2013-11-07 08:23:35 AM  

NeverDrunk23: In fact, they got worst.

I actually kind of pity them seeing how they keep showing they cannot get through the day without lying to themselves.


I used to laugh at Teabaggers and other staunch conservatives but their asshattery has been going on too long.  COPS used to be fun to watch.   'Hey look at that loser running around with no pants on!".  After a while it was really sad seeing these people who are going through challenging episodes in their lived and need help get arrested.   Teabaggers and the GOP are like the pant-less guy on COPS swinging a fire extinguisher around.  They need help and they're also a danger to those around them.   It is both sad and scary.
 
2013-11-07 08:24:40 AM  

miss diminutive: lockers: Did they finally graduate from soggy biscuit?

I had to google that....and regretted it instantly.


What do you want for nothing, soggy biscuit?

/bow bow bow
 
2013-11-07 08:24:48 AM  

wildcardjack: I've used Oxyclean to remove the blood of dead men, I've never used it to remove spunk. I don't know which is more difficult to clean up.


Elmer's glue.  It smells like spunk anyway, so if you miss a spot you can just say you tripped on the rug while pasting your collage or... whatever

Also, toothpaste for bullet holes (or, in a pinch, a paste of cornstarch and salt)

/ask me how I know
//go ahead, ask me
 
2013-11-07 08:25:16 AM  
"But here is another fact that is all but beyond argument: If establishment Republicans in Virginia and nationally had shown more faith in their candidate, ignored the polls that showed him getting blown out, and ponied up the cash to prevent McAuliffe from outraising him by $15 million, then Cuccinelli would now be governor-elect."


RAND: He can fly!
Cruz: He can fly!
Rubio: He flewed!
Ronald Reagan: Now you try.
RAND: I'll think of a mermaid lagoon, underneath a magic moon.
Cruz: I'll think I'm in a pirate's cave.
Rubio: I think I'll be an Indian brave.
Ronald Reagan: Now everybody try.
RAND, Cruz, Rubio, Ronald Reagan: One, two, three!
RAND, Cruz, Rubiol: We can fly! We can fly! We can fly!
[the children all fall to the ground]


The GOP is a joke.
How can any sane person sit there and listen to them straight up bullshiat themselves like this and still support them? how?

Their support has to be down to just the mentally ill at this point.
 
2013-11-07 08:26:59 AM  

unexplained bacon: Their support has to be down


could have ended the sentence there
 
2013-11-07 08:27:51 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Also, toothpaste for bullet holes (or, in a pinch, a paste of cornstarch and salt)


That doesn't work for stucco. Helps to actually have that skill set to repair a few square feet around the embedded bullets.
 
2013-11-07 08:29:33 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: It smells like spunk anyway, so if you miss a spot you can just say you tripped on the rug while pasting your collage or... whatever


If decoupage is a potentially viable explanation for what the stain is in your house then the odds are you don't have the problem to begin with.
 
2013-11-07 08:29:36 AM  
Subby forgot the happier ending.

GOP graduates from "circle jerk" to "circle firing squad". Same procedure, twice as messy, and a happier ending.
 
2013-11-07 08:30:36 AM  
Wait....So they didn't win Virginia by 2 points?  I thought the topic of yesterday was the Republican's narrow margin of victory.
 
2013-11-07 08:30:40 AM  
Ted Cruz...When it comes to baby Cooch... YOU ARE THE FATHER!!!

/OOOOOOOHHH!!!!
 
2013-11-07 08:32:39 AM  

sprawl15: unexplained bacon: Their support has to be down

could have ended the sentence there


their support has downs
 
2013-11-07 08:33:03 AM  

sprawl15: unexplained bacon: Their support has to be down Syndrome

could have ended the sentence there



or maybe ^
 
2013-11-07 08:33:37 AM  

doyner: "The paternity suit over Cuccinelli's narrow loss is vigorously under way."

Who knew that an elephant could impregnate a chicken?


Well, similar things have happened before...

upload.wikimedia.org

I wonder if all the baby chicks will strongly resemble prominent members of the GOP...
 
2013-11-07 08:33:38 AM  

Jackson Herring: sprawl15: unexplained bacon: Their support has to be down

could have ended the sentence there

their support has downs


exactly
 
2013-11-07 08:33:53 AM  

Jackson Herring: their support has downs


Are you saying they can count to potato?
 
2013-11-07 08:37:54 AM  

doyner: "The paternity suit over Cuccinelli's narrow loss is vigorously under way."

Who knew that an elephant could impregnate a chicken?


cdn.backyardchickens.com
 
2013-11-07 08:40:05 AM  
And the GOP surrenders a piece of the Solid South. But that's totally a victory, because you can only fail conservatism. It can't fail you.
 
2013-11-07 08:40:06 AM  

Muta: The way the conservatives on Fark and elsewhere were describing yesterday's loss as a victory tells me the GOP still haven't started the soul searching needed to become an organization that can handle the responsibility of governing.


They don't want to govern, they just want to be in power.
 
2013-11-07 08:40:39 AM  
This guy pulled the dick move of skipping the post election call to his opponent, and we had to put up with GOPers running around pretending this was somehow a win yesterday, now they're going right into a chorus of "gotta have faith".


they seem to be incapable of learning from failure, they simply can't help but to pretend their failures are successes, and then when they reach their next inevitable failure they are shocked every time.

As someone who really would like to see the GOP/TP go away, I hope this continues, but honestly it's hard to watch.
 
2013-11-07 08:41:58 AM  

somedude210: Jackson Herring: their support has downs

Are you saying they can count to potato?


you downs with the gop

psh yeah you know me
 
2013-11-07 08:42:01 AM  

Carn: Muta: The way the conservatives on Fark and elsewhere were describing yesterday's loss as a victory tells me the GOP still haven't started the soul searching needed to become an organization that can handle the responsibility of governing.

They don't want to govern, they just want to be in power.


But they aren't in power. Their guy lost. I just don't see how anything about Tuesday is a victory for anyone in the Republican Party, other than applying the boneheaded logic I just made fun of earlier.
 
2013-11-07 08:43:09 AM  
Here's the 900 lb gorilla in the room that the article fails to address:

Was it better that "mainstream" Republicans failed to back Cuccinelli and he lost the election, or they back Cuccinelli, he wins and then governs as an absolute wingnut pissing off a vast majority of the state and permanently putting Virginia solidly in the "Blue" camp?

IMHO, the Republican party actually dodged a bullet.  Cuccinelli would have almost certainly been a disaster as governor and his outrageous positions would no longer have been confined to a somewhat local market, but would have garnered national exposure.  Can you imagine the traction Democratic candidates would have gained by being able to point to a guy who would spend so much political capital trying to outlaw oral sex as the epitome of a "Tea Party" Republican?
 
2013-11-07 08:43:48 AM  

hugram: doyner: "The paternity suit over Cuccinelli's narrow loss is vigorously under way."

Who knew that an elephant could impregnate a chicken?

[cdn.backyardchickens.com image 313x219]


Set.....spike!
 
2013-11-07 08:45:02 AM  
I'm convinced a Democrat is secretly running the Republican party. It's the only plausible answer.
 
2013-11-07 08:48:33 AM  
The party needs to assess itself. Its message. Its platform. It has needed this for some time. It should have done this after McCain lost. Instead, folks decided to double down, throw up Astroturf, and bet heavier on PACs to service narrative, and squeeze dollars from folks as they played cheerleader to policies that have had catastrophic consequences both here and abroad.

This isn't a feature on just that national stage, but all over the country.

The GOP is facing tough challenges, because there are actual words out there, real laws and real policies that have consequences, and folks are simply not willing to face that they have pooped in their own dog dish, and are looking at doing ANYTHING but face cleaning it up. And taking some responsibility for those policies and their consequences is primary to cleaning that up, and responsibility is something that can't be assigned, that has to be accepted. At this point, it's not about responsibility, but blame. Blame can be doled out. And folks are going to have to do more than just play the blame game...
 
2013-11-07 08:49:39 AM  

lawboy87: Here's the 900 lb gorilla in the room that the article fails to address:

Was it better that "mainstream" Republicans failed to back Cuccinelli and he lost the election, or they back Cuccinelli, he wins and then governs as an absolute wingnut pissing off a vast majority of the state and permanently putting Virginia solidly in the "Blue" camp?

IMHO, the Republican party actually dodged a bullet.  Cuccinelli would have almost certainly been a disaster as governor and his outrageous positions would no longer have been confined to a somewhat local market, but would have garnered national exposure.  Can you imagine the traction Democratic candidates would have gained by being able to point to a guy who would spend so much political capital trying to outlaw oral sex as the epitome of a "Tea Party" Republican?


I'm thinking old guard Republicans knew this and it's why they backed off in the first place. So the gorilla was obliquely acknowledged.
 
2013-11-07 08:50:21 AM  
One group blames it the fringe that nominated Cuccinelli at a convention instead of allowing a primary.
One group blames it on the "establishment" that supposedly didn't give him enough money.
One group blames it on the Tea Party, which forced a shutdown and pissed off most voters who lived anywhere near D.C.

But really, can't they all just settle for agreeing on the basic concept all those arguments have in common?  That it doesn't matter which particular style or brand of Republican you are, because all republicans are fark-ups?
 
2013-11-07 08:50:49 AM  

Twist-42: how about "get better candidatespolicies"?


Just a suggestion
 
2013-11-07 08:55:06 AM  
The politics of the matter seem virtually beyond dispute...
 But here is another fact that is all but beyond argument...


These opposite scenarios, both eminently plausible,


Weeell, I always knew the GOP treated their imagination and suppositions as facts, but it's nice to see it so cleanly illustrated.
 
2013-11-07 08:59:40 AM  

hubiestubert: The GOP is facing tough challenges, because there are actual words out there, real laws and real policies that have consequences, and folks are simply not willing to face that they have pooped in their own dog dish, and are looking at doing ANYTHING but face cleaning it up. And taking some responsibility for those policies and their consequences is primary to cleaning that up, and responsibility is something that can't be assigned, that has to be accepted. At this point, it's not about responsibility, but blame. Blame can be doled out. And folks are going to have to do more than just play the blame game...


The ultimate issue facing the GOP right now is that they've gone so far down the rabbit hole that there's no straightforward way to get out of it. Any attempt to rebuke the tea party nonsense and shift towards the middle would require both a rebuke of the tea party and those who quietly allowed them to run the funhouse - which at this point is pretty much every elected and appointed GOP official on the national, state, and local level, including Supreme Court justices.

And there is no case where the people making the decisions will decide to get rid of themselves and everyone they know. It's not just pooping in the dog dish, it's the head chef pooping in the entrees and starting to develop a conscience as people start to order dessert. There's no taking that shiat back.
 
2013-11-07 09:01:02 AM  

lawboy87: IMHO, the Republican party actually dodged a bullet. Cuccinelli would have almost certainly been a disaster as governor and his outrageous positions would no longer have been confined to a somewhat local market, but would have garnered national exposure. Can you imagine the traction Democratic candidates would have gained by being able to point to a guy who would spend so much political capital trying to outlaw oral sex as the epitome of a "Tea Party" Republican?


Your theory is sound assuming the GOP doesn't field candidates in 2014 with goofy positions on issues.  What undermines your theory though is in 2012 the GOP put forth a bunch of candidates who felt the need to express their thoughts on rape and reproduction then in 2013 they put forth a candidate with goofy views on the legality of oral sex.
 
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