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(NCAA)   NCAA uses new flat seamed baseball to try and spark more offense into the games. If steroids and metal bats can't get the ball out of the park, a flat seamed baseball is hardly a concern   (ncaa.com) divider line 30
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2013-11-07 09:50:40 AM
Yuck.  Good look trying to get any movement on your slider throwing one of those things.  I foresee a whole lot of hanging breaking balls in the 2015 tourney.
 
2013-11-07 09:51:31 AM
It's cutting edge development like this that make baseball the adrenaline packed spectator sport it is today.
 
2013-11-07 10:02:57 AM
Did they test it with a pitcher?  Or bounce it off aluminum bats?  Why wouldn't you just use a ball like major league?


You want a more exciting sport?  Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape
 
2013-11-07 10:10:39 AM

erratick: Did they test it with a pitcher?  Or bounce it off aluminum bats?  Why wouldn't you just use a ball like major league?


You want a more exciting sport?  Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape


or, cheap beer

/ I like defense and pitching more than offense.  I would prefer that this ball was not implemented.
// but, what do i care, i never watch college baseball.  i don't even watch pro baseball.  the sport is not that much fun to watch
 
2013-11-07 10:11:15 AM
Baseball is just fine.  Leave it alone.
 
2013-11-07 10:26:58 AM
I guess now there will be crying in baseball?
 
2013-11-07 10:31:41 AM

v2micca: Yuck.  Good look trying to get any movement on your slider throwing one of those things.  I foresee a whole lot of hanging breaking balls in the 2015 tourney.


Collegiate pitchers throwing fewer sliders is not necessarily a bad thing.

To me this is more about those marginal NCAA offensive players than about homers.  Let's face it, most NCAA players are at their career ceilings, and when they went to the modified metal bats, those guys just could not hit as effectively anymore.  The games will be better when those guys can go back to being .270 slap hitters that can drive the ball between 1st and 2nd, rather than becoming bunt specialists like they had to the last few years.  It will make the game more like the pros.  Hopefully the major conferences are on-board for adopting the new ball for the season.
 
2013-11-07 10:41:36 AM
I haven't seen too many NCAA baseballs, but I do know that the seams aren't consistent from brand to brand. One school might use Wilson while another might use Rawlings while another might use Diamond depending on their sponsorships.

Minor league baseball and MLB all use Rawlings balls and a high stitch (not a seam) is rare.
 
2013-11-07 10:49:23 AM
The average score for an NCAA Tournament game last year was 6.5-2.7.  Are they really that worried about offense at 9+ runs per game?
 
2013-11-07 10:57:48 AM
Christ, just hit off of a tee.
 
2013-11-07 11:03:35 AM
I think a lot of folks who don't follow NCAA baseball still remember the days of the late 90's when it was practically routine to see a game finish 27-15 or 19-6. Those days are long gone. Offense is way down even from the mid-2000's to the point that home runs have become quite rare (relatively speaking) and many fans think they've overcorrected with the bat rules. I don't have a problem with the game the way it is, but it's not the game of titanium-bat home run derby it used to be, not by a long shot.

// Changing the ball is stupid.
 
2013-11-07 11:05:55 AM
This is also worth noting:

This flatter seam height is consistent with the balls used in minor league baseball, yet still higher than what is used in major league baseball.

So it's not like they're making some magically smooth ball. If anything, it will help the transition from college to the pros.
 
2013-11-07 11:07:48 AM
since when was offense a problem in college baseball?
 
2013-11-07 11:38:07 AM

erratick: You want a more exciting sport? Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)


^This
 
2013-11-07 11:44:14 AM
Hell, they just need to ban the bunt. College coaches have their clean up hitters bunt in a DH league and just give up outs.
 
2013-11-07 11:51:15 AM

erratick: Did they test it with a pitcher?  Or bounce it off aluminum bats?  Why wouldn't you just use a ball like major league?


You want a more exciting sport?  Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape


No, you see standardizing a strike zone would help pitchers and remove the plate ump's ability to tweak the game. Lower scores and lesser control is the last thing the NCAA wants in any sport.

/For the record, my tinfoil hat is fedora shaped and I have matching goggles just in case.
 
2013-11-07 11:53:40 AM
College baseball.
Meh.
Women's college softball is where its at fella's.
 
2013-11-07 11:54:22 AM
I'm not one to get upset when leagues make minor changes, but taking the seams off a baseball is like baking your mom into an apple pie.
 
2013-11-07 11:57:19 AM

Wendy's Chili: I'm not one to get upset when leagues make minor changes, but taking the seams off a baseball is like baking your mom into an apple pie.


They are just making the seams lower, but still not as low as a pro-ball.

It's just a little haircut.
 
2013-11-07 12:11:25 PM
Due to variables (individual bat speed, wind direction, whether the ball is stuck on the bat's "sweet spot," etc.) that can impact the distance a baseball can travel, not every trajectory hit with a flat-seamed ball will travel exactly 20 feet farther than a raised-seamed ball, but a 20-foot average difference is an approximate representation of what can be expected.

I like to think this paragraph was added as a preemptive strike against morons who would call this idea stupid because all bunts will now travel at least 20 feet on contact.
 
2013-11-07 12:14:46 PM

erratick: "shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape


Dumb
Dumber
Dumberest
 
2013-11-07 12:47:47 PM
Pitchers in college ball now are significantly better all around than they were in the 90's  It is not uncommon for your college closer to come in with 100+ mph fastballs with movement.  The same factors in play for baseball are those for football.

Where it used to be that only a select few made their way through travel and AAU seasons from birth through age 18, the prevalence of these leagues combined with systematic coaching and training has made today's college players equal to the professionals of 15-20 years ago.  The emphasis now on flashy stats also contributes to the lack of offense.  Pitchers are trained to go 100% all of the time and batters are swinging for the fences every pitch.  As witnessed by the Braves this year, you see unhittable pitchers with major injuries early in their careers and batters with low averages and tons of strikeouts.
 
2013-11-07 01:18:26 PM
Want more offense in baseball? Let them have their speed back.
Offensive numbers have nose-dived since they took the little green pills away.

/ and let Timmy smoke!
 
2013-11-07 02:28:51 PM
erratick: "shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)

No, baseball doesn't need some artificial time restraint like padded rugby or basketball, just have the umps enforce the rules that are already there.

technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire

Maybe, as long as it's standardized technology for all MLB ballparks, but it's not practical for the minor leagues. Even so, I've definitely seen that technology make bad calls too on sharp breaking pitches.

standardize field size and shape

Been there
www.ballparksofbaseball.com

done that
farm4.static.flickr.com

it sucked having cookie-cutter McBallparks
www.ballparksofbaseball.com

not interested at all.
lh6.ggpht.com

They all deserved this:
www.implosionworld.com

/My lawn, why are you damn kids still on it?
 
2013-11-07 06:06:14 PM

erratick: Did they test it with a pitcher?  Or bounce it off aluminum bats?  Why wouldn't you just use a ball like major league?


You want a more exciting sport?  Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape


It wasn't too crazy, until you got to that one.  That pretty much shows you know absolutely nothing about baseball.
 
2013-11-07 06:30:53 PM

FriarReb98: erratick: Did they test it with a pitcher?  Or bounce it off aluminum bats?  Why wouldn't you just use a ball like major league?


You want a more exciting sport?  Here are some ideas:

"shot clock" for batters and pitchers (softball allready has this, moves the game along quickly)
technology for calling balls and strikes as opposed to an umpire
standardize field size and shape

It wasn't too crazy, until you got to that one.  That pretty much shows you know absolutely nothing about baseball.


Bring back the Polo Grounds!
 
2013-11-07 09:30:54 PM
Bring back the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum as a baseball stadium!

www.ballparksofbaseball.com

/Wally Moon would agree
 
2013-11-07 10:24:38 PM

Henry Holland: Bring back the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum as a baseball stadium!



/Wally Moon would agree


I went to the exhibition that the Dodgers and Red Sox played at the Coliseum a few years back. It was interesting to actually see a game played with those dimensions, but man, what a terrible place to watch a game.
 
2013-11-07 11:58:31 PM
ladodger34: what a terrible place to watch a game.

Looking at the photo I posted again, those people in the seats under the scoreboard in right CF might as well be in Long Beach for all it matters.

Speaking of terrible venues for a sport, a friend wants to go to the Ducks v. Kings game at Dodger Stadium in February, but as much as I love hockey, I'm not sure.

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$89 for the cheapest seat to watch a game take place at second base, at ice level? Um, no.
 
2013-11-08 10:16:03 AM

Henry Holland: ladodger34: what a terrible place to watch a game.

Looking at the photo I posted again, those people in the seats under the scoreboard in right CF might as well be in Long Beach for all it matters.

Speaking of terrible venues for a sport, a friend wants to go to the Ducks v. Kings game at Dodger Stadium in February, but as much as I love hockey, I'm not sure.

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$89 for the cheapest seat to watch a game take place at second base, at ice level? Um, no.


Let's not forget this travesty.

a57.foxnews.com
 
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