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(Miami Herald)   Miami Dolphins players condemn Dick Incognito. Just kidding, they rally around him and blame Jonathan Martin for not being "cut out for this"   (miamiherald.com) divider line 200
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2013-11-07 12:32:44 PM

llortcM_yllort: doubled99: Sports radio (specifically Artrell Hawkins and Firman) are all over this as to "this is football...you never played the game....you don't understand" angle in defending what is essentially workplace violence, intimidation, and bad behavior.You have to "deal with it" and you weren't made for football.
So the coonter-offensive has begun, and I think the Dolphins players coming out have essentially circled the wagons to protect themselves, as they know that, if they get the story right, they can escape punishment and hopefully their own complicity in the affair will not come to light.
Entirely predictable.  As if the NFL is somehow an organization where intimidation, workplace violence is "okay" because the "locker room" is different.


Hard cold truth- IT IS.
Insisting that an NFL team is the same as any other workplace is nothing but pure stupidity. Maybe you should listen to the players involved as they continue to try and explain exactly that. Or just continue your ignorant whining about something you obviously can't understand.

I'm not going to take a side on this, but it seems weird to me to see random internet posters commenting about how confident they are that they know the NFL is so different and to say otherwise is ignorant.  I'm guessing that you have spent as much time in an NFL locker room as the guy you're responding to you or me (zero).  If you're such an expert on this, which NFL team did you play for that gave you insight into the intricacies of professional football?


Do you know you're arguing with the man that created the WARRIOR CODE meme?  This is all part of the warrior code.
 
2013-11-07 12:35:51 PM

doubled99: It's fun to watch Neanderthals struggle to keep intact one of their last bastions. Eventually, they're going to have to grow up, and that terrifies them, so of course they're going to demonize the whistleblower. The fun part will be watching as the NFL tries to balance "keeping a high profit margin" with "keeping a professional demeanor" in their response. It's clear that this kind of brutal behavior has been acceptable for far too long in a society that's supposed to be moving away from this kind of stupidity.


Like the sport of football itself?
The acts these men are called on to do are beyond the "normal" scope of civilian activity, and as such,  cannot be held to your flexible, politically correct modes of societal behavior.
Frail, craven men such as yourself feel the need to tear down those who's accomplishments dwarf their own to cover up their own shame as men.


After that post, I finally had to break down and give you your own special color.
 
2013-11-07 12:45:19 PM

Marcus Aurelius: doubled99: It's fun to watch Neanderthals struggle to keep intact one of their last bastions. Eventually, they're going to have to grow up, and that terrifies them, so of course they're going to demonize the whistleblower. The fun part will be watching as the NFL tries to balance "keeping a high profit margin" with "keeping a professional demeanor" in their response. It's clear that this kind of brutal behavior has been acceptable for far too long in a society that's supposed to be moving away from this kind of stupidity.


Like the sport of football itself?
The acts these men are called on to do are beyond the "normal" scope of civilian activity, and as such,  cannot be held to your flexible, politically correct modes of societal behavior.
Frail, craven men such as yourself feel the need to tear down those who's accomplishments dwarf their own to cover up their own shame as men.

After that post, I finally had to break down and give you your own special color.


[announcing that you're making an identifier for someone]

Sure is attention starved in here.
 
2013-11-07 12:57:45 PM

darch: Being sensitive does NOT make one less of a man.


Right. It makes you a pussy.
 
2013-11-07 01:25:52 PM
man, this doubled99 has sensitive feels too.  He must be related to Martin.
 
2013-11-07 01:29:36 PM
It's not just that the players are covering their own asses by blaming it all on Martin. I wouldn't be surprised if management let them know that anybody who supports Martin here is going to be out of a job.
 
2013-11-07 01:30:04 PM
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
 
2013-11-07 01:35:32 PM

barefoot in the head: "Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


When you read between the lines, it's a touching love letter.
 
2013-11-07 01:35:52 PM

doubled99: Insisting that an NFL team is the same as any other workplace is nothing but pure stupidity. Maybe you should listen to the players involved as they continue to try and explain exactly that. Or just continue your ignorant whining about something you obviously can't understand.


I do understand....that you are a moron.  So I guess people like

TONY DUNGY

doesn't understand football, right?  I mean, he only won a Super Bowl, played in the game, and was highly successful and DIDN'T allow hazing on his teams.

So I guess you like to display your stupidity in a public forum.  Got it.

/Marine, and yes I do know all about "if you aren't X, you don't understand."
//Those units are typically the ones who are the most farked up
///We don't play a child's game and whine that we should get to haze people because we feel we are "different", so why do a bunch of guys (like you) seem to believe the NFL locker room is okay for hazing?
////Jackass
 
2013-11-07 01:39:41 PM
"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


You need to revisit the barber shop scene from Gran Torino and learn how real men speak to each other
 
2013-11-07 01:42:24 PM

llortcM_yllort: doubled99: Sports radio (specifically Artrell Hawkins and Firman) are all over this as to "this is football...you never played the game....you don't understand" angle in defending what is essentially workplace violence, intimidation, and bad behavior.You have to "deal with it" and you weren't made for football.
So the coonter-offensive has begun, and I think the Dolphins players coming out have essentially circled the wagons to protect themselves, as they know that, if they get the story right, they can escape punishment and hopefully their own complicity in the affair will not come to light.
Entirely predictable.  As if the NFL is somehow an organization where intimidation, workplace violence is "okay" because the "locker room" is different.


Hard cold truth- IT IS.
Insisting that an NFL team is the same as any other workplace is nothing but pure stupidity. Maybe you should listen to the players involved as they continue to try and explain exactly that. Or just continue your ignorant whining about something you obviously can't understand.

I'm not going to take a side on this, but it seems weird to me to see random internet posters commenting about how confident they are that they know the NFL is so different and to say otherwise is ignorant.  I'm guessing that you have spent as much time in an NFL locker room as the guy you're responding to you or me (zero).  If you're such an expert on this, which NFL team did you play for that gave you insight into the intricacies of professional football?


The first rule of the WARRIOR CODE is don't talk about the WARRIOR CODE.
 
2013-11-07 01:50:38 PM
Warriors code
 
2013-11-07 01:50:58 PM

Gonz: Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


I don't think I WANT to understand it anymore.
 
2013-11-07 01:59:36 PM

doubled99: "Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


You need to revisit the barber shop scene from Gran Torino and learn how real men speak to each other


You are a cartoon.
 
2013-11-07 02:03:50 PM

Mi-5: doubled99: Insisting that an NFL team is the same as any other workplace is nothing but pure stupidity. Maybe you should listen to the players involved as they continue to try and explain exactly that. Or just continue your ignorant whining about something you obviously can't understand.

I do understand....that you are a moron.  So I guess people like

TONY DUNGY

doesn't understand football, right?  I mean, he only won a Super Bowl, played in the game, and was highly successful and DIDN'T allow hazing on his teams.

So I guess you like to display your stupidity in a public forum.  Got it.

/Marine, and yes I do know all about "if you aren't X, you don't understand."
//Those units are typically the ones who are the most farked up
///We don't play a child's game and whine that we should get to haze people because we feel we are "different", so why do a bunch of guys (like you) seem to believe the NFL locker room is okay for hazing?
////Jackass


img.fark.net

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE WARRIORS CODE!
 
2013-11-07 02:09:11 PM

doubled99: "Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


You need to revisit the barber shop scene from Gran Torino and learn how real men speak to each other


The important thing to remember here is that racism and bullying is OK as long as you play a sport.
 
2013-11-07 02:18:21 PM

barefoot in the head: doubled99: "Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


You need to revisit the barber shop scene from Gran Torino and learn how real men speak to each other

You are a cartoon.


He has a point somewhat. As an example, my friends and I say some pretty terrible things to each other on the reg. I won't repeat some verbatim what some of us will say to each other, but just know that we definitely don't shy away from remarks about each other's race. HOWEVER, this is all in context and (usually) out of the workplace. It's pretty comical, in my opinion. But it would only be viewed as comical if you're familiar with both the speakers and the context of the jokes.

But that "real men...." stuff, that's for the birds. Clint Eastwood is cool and all, but don't use his movies as a marker for manliness. That scene he was referring to was used almost entirely for comedic effect anyways.
 
rka
2013-11-07 02:27:05 PM
The Warrior Code. What a crock of shiat.

We see story after story of this exact same type of bullying going on in middle school playgrounds. In school band organizations (hell, they beat a kid to death with mallets in one instance), in greek organizations across the country. Hell, take a sampling of chess clubs across the land and I'll bet you'd find a few instances of bullying as a means to weed out "undesirables".

And NFL players want to bleat about how *we* don't understand the locker room? Christ, most of us were in locker rooms for all of high school and this isn't *anything* new. Where do you think NFL players learned this? In high school (or younger) settings. There is no "Warrior" culture here. If anything, the NFL doesn't understand the rest of society. Doesn't surprise me, they aren't, as a rule, very smart or astute.

The only difference is we understand when kids do it because kids are stupid, immature and vicious coonts to each other. NFL players are supposed to be adults.
 
2013-11-07 02:33:27 PM

Confabulat: This is one of those stories that the media has collectively decided on a narrative and run with it. I do wonder if just maybe Martin is screwy or scheming or maybe just plain evil.

We have no idea.


Condemn the press for inventing a narrative while you simultaneously create another narrative that makes not even a little bit of sense.  Top it with "we have no idea."

Ta-da.
 
2013-11-07 02:47:58 PM

bingethinker: It's not just that the players are covering their own asses by blaming it all on Martin. I wouldn't be surprised if management let them know that anybody who supports Martin here is going to be out of a job.


Classic. Yell "it's a conspiracy" to dodge the fact that every player in Miami is supporting incognito. Couldn't possibly be that they actually think Martin is out of line with his actions.
 
2013-11-07 03:01:52 PM
ww4.hdnux.com

I thought no costume meant naked, but nooo....
 
2013-11-07 03:03:00 PM
Oops, sorry, I screwed up.  That is not Jonathan Martin in a dress.

/backs out of thread
 
2013-11-07 03:13:03 PM
I will say, if you're Roger Goodell, this season as a whole has just been a PR disaster on every level. The injury rate has been particularly brutal, the players at your most marketable position have been dropping like flies despite all your efforts to protect them, and the most marketable player in the league just got collected on Monday. There's been a lot of terrible on-field product, much of which has come from the people sent in to replace those injured. The London controversy refuses to go away. The concussion issue refuses to go away. And with this, you're getting a frontal assault on the very mindset that the league has been built on all these years.
 
rka
2013-11-07 03:20:38 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Couldn't possibly be that they actually think Martin is out of line with his actions.


Such warriors.
 
2013-11-07 03:24:40 PM

IlGreven: This incident could not have been handled any worse by everyone involved, including the media, had this been a normal workplace and Jonathan Martin been a woman.

I rag on "feminists" all the time, but the one thing I'll mostly agree with them on is harassment (except that I don't think asking a woman out for coffee is harassment). But they've got it easy compared to any man who isn't "tough enough" to play a sport.  There's a far bigger bully culture in sports than there is a rape culture in society.  And when such things leak, they leak hard.  (I'd even lump the Steubenville rape case and the Penn State cases into said culture.)


???
 
2013-11-07 03:57:16 PM

Gosling: The London controversy refuses to go away.


What's the London controversy?
 
2013-11-07 04:22:54 PM

Gosling: And with this, you're getting a frontal assault on the very mindset that the league has been built on all these years.


Easy fix though, send Icognito on a long vacation. Make the Dolphins pay Martin whatever sum of money Icognito had him spend. Then as for the players who've defended Icognito you send them a nice letter informing them they owe the league $10,000. If they have a problem with that, they know where the commissioner's office is and if they're so tough, they can come talk about it.
 
2013-11-07 04:25:37 PM

macadamnut: Gosling: The London controversy refuses to go away.

What's the London controversy?


Gene Simmons embarrassing America trying to sing the National Anthem.
 
2013-11-07 04:42:09 PM

macadamnut: Gosling: The London controversy refuses to go away.

What's the London controversy?


Whether or not NFL fans are ready for soccer style pearl clutching and crybagging. I think they are.
 
2013-11-07 05:00:29 PM
This crap with Martin is one of the final nails in the coffin for my NFL tastes. (The other being the abject ineptitude of the Raiders and "Coach" Dennis Allen).  The NFL has gotten too big and "in your face" for the last couple of years, and I'm not going to willingly participate in the "ticket hazing" I must endure as far as prices are concerned to go to a game.

And then this crap happens, where you have alleged grown-ups basically flipping off the country as a whole saying "you don't get to say anything about our culture because you haven't played the game and you wouldn't understand the "locker room so the rules don't apply to us"".  Fark you, then.  I'll spend my money and time on other sports or entertainment (French Ligue 1 soccer is a lot of fun for me).

The NFL needs to take a chainsaw to the Dolphins management and personnel roster to make a point that they abide by the same rules and this crap is not tolerated.  Of course, do a full investigation, but the NFL, at the very least, needs to send and enforce the message that they are not going to put up with this sort of thing, or else by inaction they sanction this type of thing in every high school in the country.
 
2013-11-07 05:17:37 PM

Mi-5: This crap with Martin is one of the final nails in the coffin for my NFL tastes. (The other being the abject ineptitude of the Raiders and "Coach" Dennis Allen).  The NFL has gotten too big and "in your face" for the last couple of years, and I'm not going to willingly participate in the "ticket hazing" I must endure as far as prices are concerned to go to a game.

And then this crap happens, where you have alleged grown-ups basically flipping off the country as a whole saying "you don't get to say anything about our culture because you haven't played the game and you wouldn't understand the "locker room so the rules don't apply to us"".  Fark you, then.  I'll spend my money and time on other sports or entertainment (French Ligue 1 soccer is a lot of fun for me).

The NFL needs to take a chainsaw to the Dolphins management and personnel roster to make a point that they abide by the same rules and this crap is not tolerated.  Of course, do a full investigation, but the NFL, at the very least, needs to send and enforce the message that they are not going to put up with this sort of thing, or else by inaction they sanction this type of thing in every high school in the country.

 
2013-11-07 06:17:13 PM

macadamnut: born_yesterday: I totally would have kicked Incognito's ass, and made him my biatch.

I still want to know what an "angry bottom" is.


It's something so foul, urban dictionary passed.
 
2013-11-07 07:00:34 PM

spiderpaz: Well yeah, but this guy works in the NFL with a pack of animals.  The only thing they respect is strength and balls.


Wanna know how we can tell you've never met any actual football players?

Let me clue you in on a little secret: The smartest guy on the field SHOULD be the QB. The second smartest guy SHOULD be the center. Positions 3 to 6 on the overall IQ chart should be distributed along the balance of your oline in some fashion.

Protip: The line collectively probably averages about a 120 IQ to go along with being a shaved gorilla physically. They may be alpha-male dicks like Incognito, yes. But they're in the NFL and starters? I promise you they're almost surely a hell of a lot smarter than most of the folks on the street right now.

Animals? Not really. You want to head over to the DB meeting room for those, comparatively speaking. WR/LB next.
 
2013-11-07 08:58:30 PM

Gonz: Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


I guess Warren Sapp hasn't played enough football to understand either then.

amiright?

There's a difference between hazing and threats that induce an envelope w/ 15k in it.  Incognito might get charged with extortion.
 
2013-11-07 10:21:51 PM
You know, I don't feel pity for them anymore.  They deserved to be the team portrayed in Ace Ventura.
 
2013-11-07 10:46:39 PM

Giant Clown Shoe: Gonz: Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

I guess Warren Sapp hasn't played enough football to understand either then.

amiright?

There's a difference between hazing and threats that induce an envelope w/ 15k in it.  Incognito might get charged with extortion.


Well, one of the stories from a player today indicated that Martin originally agreed to go on the trip, the other players paid in advance, then Martin backed out, and was asked to pay his share.

/who knows if that's true
 
2013-11-07 11:58:39 PM
Martin is a mental case and now he has a hack lawyer involved. It figures the media would fall hard for his lies.
It also figures that the Butthurt Outraged Internet would fall for it too. A black man hasn't been guilty of anything yet in those people's eyes.
 
2013-11-08 12:14:02 AM
What I have learned from all of this is people reporting on this, especially that chucklefark at profootballtalk, will print any morsel of gossip without regard of either side.

The press is trying too hard on the easy stuff to try and make themselves part of the story. Pathetic really. Small people being small.

Follow and report. Don't try and will things to happen.
 
2013-11-08 08:07:10 AM

barneyfifesbullet: Martin is a mental case and now he has a hack lawyer involved. It figures the media would fall hard for his lies.
It also figures that the Butthurt Outraged Internet would fall for it too. A black man hasn't been guilty of anything yet in those people's eyes.


You are right. Incognito is a gentle giant. Just ask the black volunteer he molested last year. Funny how you AND incognito have made this all about race though.
 
2013-11-08 08:08:42 AM

Apeboy: What I have learned from all of this is people reporting on this, especially that chucklefark at profootballtalk, will print any morsel of gossip without regard of either side.

The press is trying too hard on the easy stuff to try and make themselves part of the story. Pathetic really. Small people being small.

Follow and report. Don't try and will things to happen.


Good thing nobody reported the molestation/harrasment case against a black employee last year.
 
2013-11-08 08:16:20 AM
drodr018

it matters that she was black?

if anything he digs the black ladies

also make up your mind, employee/volunteer, molestation/harrassment
 
2013-11-08 08:19:04 AM

srgrobe: drodr018

it matters that she was black?

if anything he digs the black ladies

also make up your mind, employee/volunteer, molestation/harrassment


Yeah sorry about the details. It matters she is black as some asshats are saying that it is about race. It is about being an asshole just as those who defend him. Just read upthread. And read the harassment article too. I am sure you have done that, correct?
 
2013-11-08 08:29:59 AM

jrodr018: srgrobe: drodr018

it matters that she was black?

if anything he digs the black ladies

also make up your mind, employee/volunteer, molestation/harrassment

Yeah sorry about the details. It matters she is black as some asshats are saying that it is about race. It is about being an asshole just as those who defend him. Just read upthread. And read the harassment article too. I am sure you have done that, correct?



of course I have, Warrrior Code Red.

fyi, this is Fark and we are surrounded by asshats

it's not necessarily a crime though or something to get all litigious about
 
2013-11-08 08:36:22 AM
harassed a woman?

because she doesn't have a penis, amirite?

where is the thread about this???
 
2013-11-08 08:39:48 AM

libranoelrose: harassed a woman?

because she doesn't have a penis, amirite?

where is the thread about this???


he even did it with a golf club!  no mention of which one.

you know it wasn't a long iron, I bet it was a Short Wood!
 
2013-11-08 08:41:06 AM

srgrobe: jrodr018: srgrobe: drodr018

it matters that she was black?

if anything he digs the black ladies

also make up your mind, employee/volunteer, molestation/harrassment

Yeah sorry about the details. It matters she is black as some asshats are saying that it is about race. It is about being an asshole just as those who defend him. Just read upthread. And read the harassment article too. I am sure you have done that, correct?


of course I have, Warrrior Code Red.

fyi, this is Fark and we are surrounded by asshats

it's not necessarily a crime though or something to get all litigious about


Yeah, but they need to be called on that as much as possible. Just like the Dolphins team, you should not defend the indefensible. You're free to do so, just as people are free to call you on it too. I mean, we have a guy saying that the media says black people do no wrong. Come on!
 
2013-11-08 11:29:14 AM
Jocks bullying people, other jocks and jock sniffers being apologists for them. Color me shocked.
 
2013-11-08 12:13:53 PM
Jocks bullying people, other jocks and jock sniffers being apologists for them. Color me shocked.


Crybabies whining about football because they still can't get over HS experiences? On Fark???
 
2013-11-08 12:55:20 PM

doubled99: Jocks bullying people, other jocks and jock sniffers being apologists for them. Color me shocked.


Crybabies whining about football because they still can't get over HS experiences? On Fark???


They are not Warriors. They wouldn't understand.
 
2013-11-08 01:10:01 PM

doubled99: Jocks bullying people, other jocks and jock sniffers being apologists for them. Color me shocked.


Crybabies whining about football because they still can't get over HS experiences? On Fark???


Wasn't bullied in HS. Played football, ran track etc. Notice I didn't say "athletes" but rather specifically used "jocks". But then most jocks and their sniffers aren't sharp enough to get the distinction.
 
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