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(Gizmodo)   Every mountain does NOT need to have a cloud bridge; however, it's still cool   (sploid.gizmodo.com ) divider line 51
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-11-07 08:15:53 AM  
That article reminds me of finally seeing the Sideling Hill cut along I-68. It was supposed to be a man made wonder. In reality it was a big, ugly scar in a mountain.

The cloud bridges are ugly. Make an rope bridge (subtly reinforced) if you want a low impact crossing.
 
2013-11-07 09:06:53 AM  

ZAZ: That article reminds me of finally seeing the Sideling Hill cut along I-68. It was supposed to be a man made wonder. In reality it was a big, ugly scar in a mountain.

The cloud bridges are ugly. Make an rope bridge (subtly reinforced) if you want a low impact crossing.


Still neat to see the exposed rock strata.  Also, this cloud bridge looks like it was built in minecraft.
 
2013-11-07 09:25:35 AM  

ZAZ: That article reminds me of finally seeing the Sideling Hill cut along I-68. It was supposed to be a man made wonder. In reality it was a big, ugly scar in a mountain.

The cloud bridges are ugly. Make an rope bridge (subtly reinforced) if you want a low impact crossing.


dovells.net

It is a big dumb cut in a mountain, but those strata are awesome.
 
2013-11-07 09:30:20 AM  
Pretentious douchebag architects.  The bane of the profession
 
2013-11-07 09:35:57 AM  
It won't look anything like the rendering. It will age poorly. There will be streaks of discoloration that will make it look like it is rusting or poorly maintained. It'll be coated with bird crap, twigs, dead leaves, gum wrappers, plastic bags and other debris that get caught on it while blowing by. Never ever trust renderings. Rarely do they actually match what is built. In most cases neither the rendering nor the actual design take aging into account. What you see is not what you get.

/Yes, I am fun at parties, why do you ask?
 
2013-11-07 09:36:02 AM  
I wonder what the actual engineered finished product will look like.

For example - the Grand Canyon Skywalk concept:
www.grand-canyon.comkoolio.files.wordpress.com

And the reality when you limit yourself to building materials that actually exist:

www.grandcanyonwest.com
powertripberkeley.com
 
2013-11-07 09:42:57 AM  
Ever wish you could take your click back?
 
2013-11-07 09:43:30 AM  
Not cool. Not in that environment.

In a modern city-scape it would look cool. In the mountains, it is ugly and intrusive.
Clouds aren't angular.
 
2013-11-07 09:53:54 AM  
"the cloudbridge designed by architects Arturo Tedeschi and Maurizio Arturo "

No, they did not design a bridge, they made a drawing.

/ Tired of mere concepts being breathlessly presented as if they were actual accomplishments
 
2013-11-07 09:57:10 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-07 10:00:05 AM  
I built something like that in Minecraft not to long ago. It connected my house to a mine I was using at the time.
 
2013-11-07 10:00:36 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Pretentious douchebag architects.  The banewhole of the profession


That's all of 'em, mate.
 
2013-11-07 10:00:49 AM  

LasersHurt: ZAZ: That article reminds me of finally seeing the Sideling Hill cut along I-68. It was supposed to be a man made wonder. In reality it was a big, ugly scar in a mountain.

The cloud bridges are ugly. Make an rope bridge (subtly reinforced) if you want a low impact crossing.

[dovells.net image 814x526]

It is a big dumb cut in a mountain, but those strata are awesome.


The deformation and folding are stunning.
 
2013-11-07 10:05:42 AM  

Target Builder: I wonder what the actual engineered finished product will look like.

For example - the Grand Canyon Skywalk concept:
[www.grand-canyon.com image 550x395][koolio.files.wordpress.com image 850x1125]

And the reality when you limit yourself to building materials that actually exist:

[www.grandcanyonwest.com image 800x533]
[powertripberkeley.com image 850x565]



At least show the entire structure. It may not be the rendering, but it is fairly close and creepy as hell to be out on.
highestbridges.comupload.wikimedia.org


Hanging off the egde of Guano Point was just as fun.
 
2013-11-07 10:06:10 AM  
that bridge idea looks like they played minecraft for 20 minutes, and said "LOOK WHAT WE MADE!"
 
2013-11-07 10:06:19 AM  

yves0010: I built something like that in Minecraft not to long ago. It connected my house to a mine I was using at the time.


That's what it reminded me of.  Someone needs to be told that in the real world everything doesn't need to be made of little cubes.
 
2013-11-07 10:14:04 AM  

jaytkay: "the cloudbridge designed by architects Arturo Tedeschi and Maurizio Arturo "

No, they did not design a bridge, they made a drawing.

/ Tired of mere concepts being breathlessly presented as if they were actual accomplishments


This and the goddamn PhoneBloks have been irritating me in the same way lately.

Just how the frak are they going to carry all that metal and glass I'm assuming the bridge is designed out of?  Where the frak does the bridge go?  They know that mountains aren't hollow like chocolate bunnies right?  That making a tunnel requires heavy machinery that will tear up the mountain right?


And I know, I know, I shouldn't shiat all over something, especially if I can't do better, especially because we need imaginative creative people to always push the envelope.  But this here is classic Architecture Whoring, make a render that looks impossible (because it nearly is) and just publish that for cheap publicity.  I guarantee that half these firms have no intention of ever building it, it exists to play you and me for cheap PR.

/do i need less or more coffee?
 
2013-11-07 10:15:14 AM  
Cybernetic:

Came for this
 
2013-11-07 10:19:43 AM  
That thing looks awful and nothing like a cloud.

Is there a chance the bridge could bend?
 
2013-11-07 10:20:20 AM  
Cloud bridge to nowhere.
 
2013-11-07 10:31:35 AM  

Target Builder: I wonder what the actual engineered finished product will look like.

For example - the Grand Canyon Skywalk concept:
[www.grand-canyon.com image 550x395][koolio.files.wordpress.com image 850x1125]

And the reality when you limit yourself to building materials that actually exist:

[www.grandcanyonwest.com image 800x533]
[powertripberkeley.com image 850x565]


The bottom is rather a bit thicker but the rest could have been matched by dressing it up a bit. This reeks of "good enough, we're not paying for all your fancy stuff" instead of "it can't be done."
 
2013-11-07 10:33:18 AM  
the cloud bridge is uglier than a normal bridge.
 
2013-11-07 10:38:09 AM  
Do clouds look like they were rendered on the Atari 2600?

Also, those aren't real. They don't look awesome, or anything like natural clouds. Maybe they don't need a farking bridge there to begin with.
 
2013-11-07 10:43:40 AM  

Fano: That thing looks awful and nothing like a cloud.

Is there a chance the bridge could bend?


Taking the rendering at face value you've got a vierendeel truss made of ~8" steel sections that will span about 150m or so. It'll deflect like crazy.
 
2013-11-07 11:00:48 AM  
That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.
 
2013-11-07 11:08:48 AM  
The designer:
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-11-07 11:23:41 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.


He must think that the inspiration is the hard part and everything else after that is trivial and not worth his time so it must be easy
 
2013-11-07 11:36:03 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.


I propose putting one 3D printer on each side and have them print towards each other. Computers got better, so anything at all is possible.
 
2013-11-07 11:41:28 AM  

ZAZ: That article reminds me of finally seeing the Sideling Hill cut along I-68. It was supposed to be a man made wonder. In reality it was a big, ugly scar in a mountain.



if you ever traveled from Hancock to Cumberland on US 48 before the building of I-68 you'd appreciate the Sidling Hill cut.  i traveled that route 3 days a week for 5 years.  it will erode and in 100 years look completely different.  there is undercutting happening already so some stabilization will have to be performed.  spoiled rock is spoiled.

as for the cloud bridges - meh.
 
2013-11-07 11:42:06 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.


I am thinking....

500 Glass Blocks (assuming it is hallow on the inside)
Maybe 200 Iron Blocks
128 Nether Brick Fences.

That should do it.
 
2013-11-07 11:48:07 AM  

doglover: Smeggy Smurf: Pretentious douchebag architects.  The banewhole of the profession

That's all of 'em, mate.


I've worked for three of them so far that weren't.  The first did the architecture of the everyman.  Hundreds of tenant improvements, small office buildings, houses, etc.  The current two do grocery stores.  There is nothing pretentious or glamorous about the work but it pays well as well as being steady regardless of the economy.
 
2013-11-07 12:09:50 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Pretentious douchebag architects.  The bane of the profession


Ding Ding Ding!!!!

Just because you can render something pretty in 3Ds Max, doesn't mean that it's technically feasible. I think in order for someone to become a licensed architect (in addition to current education), they need at least 2 years of engineering education and 1-year working on a jobsite doing basic framing or welding.

I'm amazed at how many recent graduates can make amazing renderings but have no idea how a basic wall is actually framed.
 
2013-11-07 12:17:08 PM  
img.fark.net

/ That wasn't so hard.
 
2013-11-07 12:18:05 PM  

That Other Dan: [img.fark.net image 850x478]

/ That wasn't so hard.


Do you know how many blocks you used? I have a guess on this list and I would like to know if I am even remotely close.
 
2013-11-07 12:18:54 PM  

Fano: That thing looks awful and nothing like a cloud.

Is there a chance the bridge could bend?


Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
 
2013-11-07 12:21:27 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.

I propose putting one 3D printer on each side and have them print towards each other. Computers got better, so anything at all is possible.


Thank you, TechnoBevets, for expanding your reach to new domains.  All will know your blessed message.
 
2013-11-07 12:21:52 PM  

yves0010: That Other Dan: [img.fark.net image 850x478]

/ That wasn't so hard.

Do you know how many blocks you used? I have a guess on this list and I would like to know if I am even remotely close.


I wasn't going to spend the time counting blocks on the architect's rendering to get a block-for-block recreation. I just half-assed it. I can say mine's much smaller then theirs in block count though.
 
2013-11-07 12:26:42 PM  

MrSteve007: Smeggy Smurf: Pretentious douchebag architects.  The bane of the profession

Ding Ding Ding!!!!

Just because you can render something pretty in 3Ds Max, doesn't mean that it's technically feasible. I think in order for someone to become a licensed architect (in addition to current education), they need at least 2 years of engineering education and 1-year working on a jobsite doing basic framing or welding.

I'm amazed at how many recent graduates can make amazing renderings but have no idea how a basic wall is actually framed.


You are 100% right in that.  Too many are interested in a pretty picture, not something that can be built.

Years ago when I was first getting started I was doing detailing on a house that needed a W-beam that was something like 2 feet deep because the architect thought it would be cool to put a sewing room in the middle above an oversized 4 car garage that used only the exterior walls for bearing.

Only once did I ever fall prey to asthetics over buildability.  Fortunately for everybody involved the project never went beyond the conceptual phase.  That was back in 2002.  Fast forward 11 years and everything is block module.

One thing though is requiring architects to build isn't necessary.  Some like myself can't hammer a nail without bending 2 for every 1 driven.  What I and other like me need to do is make sure that we overcompensate for the lack of physical building skills by knowing the theory of construction better than the practitioners.
 
2013-11-07 12:27:19 PM  

That Other Dan: yves0010: That Other Dan: [img.fark.net image 850x478]

/ That wasn't so hard.

Do you know how many blocks you used? I have a guess on this list and I would like to know if I am even remotely close.

I wasn't going to spend the time counting blocks on the architect's rendering to get a block-for-block recreation. I just half-assed it. I can say mine's much smaller then theirs in block count though.


I kinda tossed out a decent scale when it came to materials. Though I said steel and you used Wood and added Nether Brick Fences. Still awesome construction you made. Reminds me of the one I made long ago on a non existent world now.
 
2013-11-07 12:30:04 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The designer:


My faith in Fark has been restored.
 
2013-11-07 12:30:47 PM  

Khellendros: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.

I propose putting one 3D printer on each side and have them print towards each other. Computers got better, so anything at all is possible.

Thank you, TechnoBevets, for expanding your reach to new domains.  All will know your blessed message.


You're adorable! Do you doubt that anything is possible? Luddite! Just look at how much faster and higher a 747 flies than 40 years ago!
 
2013-11-07 12:47:12 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: 3D printer


DRINK!!
 
2013-11-07 12:53:19 PM  
The Blue Ridge Parkway is another example of how to do it.

www.hcpress.com
 
2013-11-07 01:42:17 PM  
Much nicer:

inforanickle.com
 
2013-11-07 01:43:19 PM  

cranked: Quantum Apostrophe: 3D printer

DRINK!!


My new keyboard better be in the mail.
 
2013-11-07 02:08:16 PM  

Target Builder: And the reality when you limit yourself to building materials    that actually exist you can afford


You can accomplish quite a bit if money is no object...
 
2013-11-07 02:14:57 PM  
The artist's sense of perspective sucks. The people on the far bridge are like 30 feet tall.
 
2013-11-07 02:19:49 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Khellendros: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: That could be "easily" built?

Me thinks they have a completely different definition of "easy" than the rest of the world.

I propose putting one 3D printer on each side and have them print towards each other. Computers got better, so anything at all is possible.

Thank you, TechnoBevets, for expanding your reach to new domains.  All will know your blessed message.

You're adorable! Do you doubt that anything is possible? Luddite! Just look at how much faster and higher a 747 flies than 40 years ago!


Ok, he's parodying himself at this point.  Have the fark researchers reached a consensus on QA's schtick?  He makes the occasional valid point, but then goes completely off the wall the rest of the time.  83% trolling?  91.7%?
 
2013-11-07 04:28:20 PM  

Khellendros: cranked: Quantum Apostrophe: 3D printer

DRINK!!

My new keyboard better be in the mail.


Ok, this should seriously be Fark's official drinking game. Find the QA post and anytime 3D printing comes up you take a drink. Anytime he mentions atoms and age together that's a shot. Any rant where 3 or more of his usual talking points show up and you gotta down a beer. Everyone will get falling down drunk.
 
2013-11-07 08:13:18 PM  

blacknite: that bridge idea looks like they played minecraft for 20 minutes, and said "LOOK WHAT WE MADE!"


exactly this
 
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