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2013-11-06 04:12:18 PM
it is kind of ridiculous that there's a particular (and not legally defined) angle from which one is not allowed to take pictures in public.
 
2013-11-06 04:27:19 PM
Poor guy's really gone downhill since they canceled his show.

i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-06 04:43:47 PM
Everyone's naked under their clothes. It's the natural state. Decriminalizing it would let people go around nude, which in turn would burn out peeping circuitry. What fun is it to just see what's there. They're addicted to the criminality of it. If we all went naked they'd quit in frustration.

Of course, if everyone was nude, we'd come to a different class of pervert who peer at women through cellophane with paper doll clothes taped on in such a way that if you hold it up just right it looks like they're wearing the clothing. Why? Because it's the forbidden fruit that's most appealing, even if that fruit is stupid.
 
2013-11-06 04:55:53 PM

doglover: Of course, if everyone was nude, we'd come to a different class of pervert

all hurl continually
 
2013-11-06 04:57:58 PM

flucto: doglover: Of course, if everyone was nude, we'd come to a different class of pervertall hurl continually


Not really. The really fat types have built in kilts.
 
2013-11-06 05:17:36 PM
"Look officer, she's the one reflecting/emitting those photons. I'm just a passive receiver here."
 
2013-11-06 05:19:28 PM
The sad lesson here is that there are lawyers.  Period.
 
2013-11-06 05:20:14 PM
What's a skirt picture, and how does one take that up?
 
2013-11-06 05:22:16 PM

doglover: flucto: doglover: Of course, if everyone was nude, we'd come to a different class of pervertall hurl continually

Not really. The really fat types have built in kilts.


.....but those kilts are made of blubber and loose skin.
 
2013-11-06 05:23:18 PM
This guy needs to be throatpunched to death.
 
2013-11-06 05:24:48 PM
I don't want anything to interfere with the occasional glimpse up a woman's skirt, including women overdressing for fear of legal upskirt photos.
 
2013-11-06 05:25:59 PM

HMS_Blinkin: doglover: flucto: doglover: Of course, if everyone was nude, we'd come to a different class of pervertall hurl continually

Not really. The really fat types have built in kilts.

.....but those kilts are made of blubber and loose skin.


Yes. Yes they are.

*drinks straight paint thinner*

Yes they are. . .
 
2013-11-06 05:26:51 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I don't want anything to interfere with the occasional glimpse up a woman's skirt, including women overdressing for fear of legal upskirt photos.


A glimpse of thigh-high lace every now and then is a good thing.  Live in the moment.  It's not the same if it's recorded.
 
2013-11-06 05:28:12 PM

FloydA: Poor guy's really gone downhill since they canceled his show.

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He hasn't been the same since he failed to save KAL 007 by getting his underpants caught on a Soviet radar antennae in Kamchatka.
 
2013-11-06 05:29:46 PM
If he gets the right judge..........some right wing nut job.............personal freedoms kinda judge...............
 
2013-11-06 05:29:46 PM
I certainly hope this doesn't affect my right to take cleavage shots of strangers.

/boobs
 
2013-11-06 05:30:55 PM
You cannot expect to have a right to privacy in your pants!

/ please do not say "But they're talking about skirts!"
// it would make me sad
 
2013-11-06 05:32:31 PM
What's the guy's FARK handle?
 
2013-11-06 05:33:49 PM
Post-article comment by Little Edie referencing the POS attorney that took this case:

"Someone linked to her Facebook profile. If I had a daughter and this was my case, I'd look at my daughter and then I'd look at my bank account and ask myself which one I loved more."

WORD.
 
2013-11-06 05:34:08 PM
I need to see what these "up skirt"photos are before any outrage can set in.
 
2013-11-06 05:34:29 PM
Does he really think a constitutional argument is gonna get him off?
 
2013-11-06 05:35:03 PM
I vaguely remember hearing that a courthouse had been built with this visually impressive walkway over the lobby that was completely transparent, kind of like that walkway at the Grand Canyon.

The architect thought it was cool.  The plans were approved.  No problem, right up until the first day it was open when women noticed that walking to court in a dress or skirt meant everybody in the first floor could just look up and see up your skirt.

I remember they closed it down while they covered up the transparent floors with something, like carpet.
 
2013-11-06 05:35:21 PM

the_rhino: I need to see what these "up skirt"photos are before any outrage can set in.


I'll bet most sasquatch pictures are in better focus.
 
2013-11-06 05:36:13 PM
I've read the briefs in this matter, it's all pretty unimpressive.
 
2013-11-06 05:36:20 PM

SirEattonHogg: Does he really think a constitutional argument is gonna get him off?


I don't think it takes much to get him off.
 
2013-11-06 05:37:33 PM

Almea Tarrant: You cannot expect to have a right to privacy in your pants!

/ please do not say "But they're talking about skirts!"
// it would make me sad


Yeah, other than the fact that pants and skirts are radically mechanically different in how they obscure vision of their interiors there is NO reason to treat them differently!
 
2013-11-06 05:47:11 PM
Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.
 
2013-11-06 05:47:31 PM
Silverstaff:  covered up the transparent floors with something, like carpet.

Carpet to hide the carpet?
 
2013-11-06 05:52:25 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.


Must be the whole thrill of the hunt thing. A lot of laws may have to be re written after this case.
 
2013-11-06 05:52:44 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.


Because it's not about seeing naked women generally, it's specifically about seeing women who don't want to be seen naked or semi-naked. It's a power trip, rather than a sexual one.
 
2013-11-06 05:53:15 PM
While this guy is clearly a jerk, and deserves to lose, I don't see how anyone can argue a case that what he is doing is wrong or immoral after we've essentially barred the courts from considering what's right and wrong, moral or immoral.

I hope he wins. The faster we rung the race to the bottom, the sooner we can start to rebuild a decent society (or be conquered by someone who can)
 
2013-11-06 05:53:52 PM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.


You really don't understand the psychology of seeing some part of a cute girl she either was ok giving sneak peeks to, or fell into view by accident?

Is there no female equivalent to catching a glimpse of panty peek out from a bent over woman?

Do women like you get nothing out of only partially nude pictures of guys?


I mean geez, for the sex more interested in foreplay and flirting games you don't seem to undrstand them.
 
2013-11-06 05:56:18 PM

SirEattonHogg: I've read the briefs in this matter, it's all pretty unimpressive.


Oh, wow. I love the way you think. +1
 
2013-11-06 05:56:39 PM
For that matter, what about non-upskirt photos where the person photographed didn't want to be?

Pics of parties and bikiniclad gals that wind up on thechive, for example, are those equally wrong?

Should I stop looking at pretty girls who aren't fully nude because that is somehow wrong?
 
2013-11-06 05:57:20 PM

Theaetetus: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.

Because it's not about seeing naked women generally, it's specifically about seeing women who don't want to be seen naked or semi-naked. It's a power trip, rather than a sexual one.


Porque no los dos?

Power and sex are very frequently intertwined.
 
2013-11-06 05:59:51 PM
pics??
 
2013-11-06 05:59:54 PM
In the old days the flash bulb would light up half the building.
 
2013-11-06 06:00:49 PM

Smackledorfer: For that matter, what about non-upskirt photos where the person photographed didn't want to be?

Pics of parties and bikiniclad gals that wind up on thechive, for example, are those equally wrong?

Should I stop looking at pretty girls who aren't fully nude because that is somehow wrong?


Yes, because you're wasting your time.  I look at pretty girls that are fully nude.
 
2013-11-06 06:02:25 PM
It's not particularly thrilling to me to spy on the parts of a woman that she isn't really interested in showing. But if you have ever spent time at a preschool, you have probably seen a nipple or two when moms wearing loose tops bend over while attending to their kids. When my kid was in preschool, I'd see nipples fairly often. I was always quick to turn away though, because I knew these women, and it would be really uncomfortable to get caught peeking. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider it a little serendipitous in an otherwise boring day.
 
2013-11-06 06:04:26 PM
sporkme:   Oh, wow. I love the way you think. +1


Thanks.  Lawyer humor.
 
2013-11-06 06:04:57 PM

Atomic Spunk: It's not particularly thrilling to me to spy on the parts of a woman that she isn't really interested in showing. But if you have ever spent time at a preschool, you have probably seen a nipple or two when moms wearing loose tops bend over while attending to their kids. When my kid was in preschool, I'd see nipples fairly often. I was always quick to turn away though, because I knew these women, and it would be really uncomfortable to get caught peeking. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider it a little serendipitous in an otherwise boring day.


Yeah my wife did that once.  I guess she was horny that day or something.  Gave a lot of men quite the show.
 
2013-11-06 06:06:11 PM
Smackledorfer:

Power and sex are very frequently intertwined.

V-12 vibrator?
 
2013-11-06 06:07:05 PM
"As Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, 'The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins.' Rights must apply to everyone in the same sense at the same time. So rights must therefore be limited to claims of freedom to do anything which does not violate the freedoms of others. This requires recognizing, respecting and abiding by anyone else's wishes to be left alone whenever he wants, and his wishes to be free to do anything which doesn't violate others. This is why no one can claim a 'right' to interfere with your life in any way without your explicit, personally-given consent for a specified purpose. There can be no such thing as a 'right' for anyone (or any group) to mess with you whenever he wants (or whenever they want) since it obviously isn't applying to YOU in the same sense at the same time."
- http://freedomkeys.com
 
2013-11-06 06:09:58 PM

Smackledorfer: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.

You really don't understand the psychology of seeing some part of a cute girl she either was ok giving sneak peeks to, or fell into view by accident?

Is there no female equivalent to catching a glimpse of panty peek out from a bent over woman?

Do women like you get nothing out of only partially nude pictures of guys?


I mean geez, for the sex more interested in foreplay and flirting games you don't seem to undrstand them.


I can't speak for all women, but personally, no, I don't get off on seeing people unintentionally exposed. It's just damned creepy, invading someone's privacy. The only thing I feel for someone I see in that situation is a pang of sympathetic embarrassment.
 
2013-11-06 06:11:48 PM
We have a lot of double standards that apply to women and their state of dress.  Often times it is the same women that suggest different standards.

A woman might complain, "You cannot look up my skirt as you might see my underwear" but then wears much greater revealing g-strings while at the beach.

Another woman might complain, "You cannot look at my breast when I am wearing a low cut shirt," but gets upset if anyone suggest she cannot breast feed anywhere in public that she desires.
 
2013-11-06 06:12:08 PM
Will the lawyer be there the day he takes an upskirt pic of the wrong woman and finds himself on the receiving end of a beatdown from a hulking, furious husband/father/brother? A pocket Constitution and a shriek of "but, my rights" are poor tools to ward off a tire iron.

Granted if the woman had all three of those being the same guy it would be weird, but, still.
 
2013-11-06 06:16:56 PM

FloydA: Poor guy's really gone downhill since they canceled his show.

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-----------DONE.
Came for that to make sure someone was on top of things, not reading anything else.

KTHXBAI
 
2013-11-06 06:22:35 PM

milkyshirt: Smackledorfer: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Why put yourself through that kind of legal hassle and risk when you can find pictures of wholly unclothed women on the internet without too much difficulty?  I don't see a good cost/benefit ratio here.

You really don't understand the psychology of seeing some part of a cute girl she either was ok giving sneak peeks to, or fell into view by accident?

Is there no female equivalent to catching a glimpse of panty peek out from a bent over woman?

Do women like you get nothing out of only partially nude pictures of guys?


I mean geez, for the sex more interested in foreplay and flirting games you don't seem to undrstand them.

I can't speak for all women, but personally, no, I don't get off on seeing people unintentionally exposed. It's just damned creepy, invading someone's privacy. The only thing I feel for someone I see in that situation is a pang of sympathetic embarrassment.


I agree with this. I don't even know what a female equivalent would be. Men just let their nasty underwear hand out these days so no "thrill" in that. If they wear super bag shorts and are sitting there legs spread wide sometimes you glimpse a ball or some peen, but rather than attractive it is disturbing.

I can understand men getting excited about accidental boob. Boobs are nice to look at. That penis/ball combination? Not so much.
 
2013-11-06 06:23:11 PM
The weird thing is that girls wearing bikinis is no big deal because they allow us to see them in their bikini/underwear. But once it's forbidden .... it's more "desireable".

Or so I'm told.
 
2013-11-06 06:25:04 PM
Michelle Menken, Robertson's attorney who almost certainly is getting paid a shiat ton of money to completely betray all women, argued in front of the Supreme Judicial Court that women "'cannot expect privacy' in a subway

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I thought they might have some clever loophole to exploit, but they're just morons.
 
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