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(Estately)   The 13 best cities for urban conservatives, as chosen by people who think Spokane is a city   (blog.estately.com) divider line 129
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2013-11-06 06:29:15 PM  
I grew up in Dallas suburbs, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies (and article).

//Richardson and Allen
///parents now up in Frisco
////basically almost every single suburb bordering Plano but never in Plano itself
\\whoooo, suburbia!
 
2013-11-06 06:36:33 PM  
Gilbert representing ;D
 
2013-11-06 06:50:11 PM  

Infobahn: Having lived near Spokane (CDA, ID, where the Aryan Nation tried to recruit me) for a time before moving back home to Arizona, Spokane is much more of a city than the bedroom community of Gilbert Arizona.  Gilbert has no character, and just aspires to be Scottsdale.


Gilbert, Arizona: What happens when you mutate the rural charm of Sioux City Iowa, the suburban sprawl of Aurora, Colorado, and the white-breaded Mormon values of Provo, Utah.

/Seriously, they could have used Peoria as a good example from Arizona
//Salmon is not as close to being "turning-it-up-to-potato" derpy as Trent Franks
 
2013-11-06 07:42:43 PM  

CPennypacker: Reason Liberals Avoid It: They don't, but the high cost of living is a challenge for lots of people.

Liberals can't afford the cost of living here because its driven up by all the liberals living here


Liberals in an area increase the property values. Gotcha.
 
2013-11-06 09:04:43 PM  
Plus, because Fort Worth is in Texas, it retains the constitutional right to secede from the U.S. if it so chooses.

Not this shiat again...
 
2013-11-06 10:11:38 PM  

Infobahn: Having lived near Spokane (CDA, ID, where the Aryan Nation tried to recruit me) for a time before moving back home to Arizona, Spokane is much more of a city than the bedroom community of Gilbert Arizona.  Gilbert has no character, and just aspires to be Scottsdale.


And Spokane is loaded with character? It's an overgrown town. The reason liberals don't live in Spokane is because there's no culture. It's not an interesting place. It's a stop on I-90 on your way to Seattle, a quiet place to raise kids, or a cheap place to live if you hate human contact.
 
2013-11-06 10:22:32 PM  

ArtemisGoldfish: Infobahn: Having lived near Spokane (CDA, ID, where the Aryan Nation tried to recruit me) for a time before moving back home to Arizona, Spokane is much more of a city than the bedroom community of Gilbert Arizona.  Gilbert has no character, and just aspires to be Scottsdale.

And Spokane is loaded with character? It's an overgrown town. The reason liberals don't live in Spokane is because there's no culture. It's not an interesting place. It's a stop on I-90 on your way to Seattle, a quiet place to raise kids, or a cheap place to live if you hate human contact.


Compared to Gilbert Arizona, Spokane is Paris.
 
2013-11-06 10:36:36 PM  

ArtemisGoldfish: And Spokane is loaded with character? It's an overgrown town. The reason liberals don't live in Spokane is because there's no culture. It's not an interesting place. It's a stop on I-90 on your way to Seattle, a quiet place to raise kids, or a cheap place to live if you hate human contact.


Quiet? Bullshiat. Riding with my parents we've been the targets in 3 different attempted carjackings. Those inner city folk must have loved our brand new '94 Izuzu Trooper.
 
2013-11-07 12:35:25 AM  

Tenatra: ArtemisGoldfish: And Spokane is loaded with character? It's an overgrown town. The reason liberals don't live in Spokane is because there's no culture. It's not an interesting place. It's a stop on I-90 on your way to Seattle, a quiet place to raise kids, or a cheap place to live if you hate human contact.

Quiet? Bullshiat. Riding with my parents we've been the targets in 3 different attempted carjackings. Those inner city folk must have loved our brand new '94 Izuzu Trooper.


Hey, the guy who stole the radio out of my shiatty SUV was pretty quiet about it.
 
2013-11-07 12:49:58 AM  
The only part of Boise that's solidly Democrat is the north end.  Out on the west side of town where I live it's chocked full of republicans and libertarians.

/still too many R's and not enough L's
 
2013-11-07 01:15:13 AM  

Tenatra: Anchorage, AK
Spokane, WA

I've lived in both of them.
No.


I was in Spokane for 4 days for a conference.  Hellllll no, never again.

Even the locals we talked to admitted the town sucked unless you had a car to GTFO and enjoy the outdoors.  So to be fair, I didn't get to experience that bit.
 
2013-11-07 01:34:37 AM  

HeadLever: The Lone Gunman: Remember, we don't mock liberals because of what they think. We mock them for what we THINK they think.

Pretty sure that everyone plays that game.  Much easier to tear down a strawman than actually address the real arguments.


I'll agree when I see an article about the most liberal cities and why conservatives avoid them (besides that there are liberals who live there).
 
2013-11-07 01:57:17 AM  
I love how they try to pretend Silicon Valley is full of secret Republicans because it's massively successful in building businesses.

Santa Clara County voted 70% Obama.  San Mateo County voted 71% Obama.  San Francisco County voted 83% Obama.  The whole area is extremely liberal, and Republicans win zero elections.

You Republicans can have all the fantastic Job Creators in Oklahoma and Mississippi.  But the center of the world's best engine for creating businesses is unambiguously blue all the way through.
 
2013-11-07 02:13:19 AM  

bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 
2013-11-07 02:21:51 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was in Spokane for 4 days for a conference. Hellllll no, never again.

Even the locals we talked to admitted the town sucked unless you had a car to GTFO and enjoy the outdoors. So to be fair, I didn't get to experience that bit.


Eh it's ok I guess, nothing to write home about though. They have Mt. Spokane and some hilly woodlands, it's the west side of washington that has all the cool outdoorsy stuff and it's pretty farking awesome over there. Let's say you went on some crazy bender and ended up out here (see pic below) with no recollection of how you got there, would you know you are just southwest of Spokane? or would you think that you somehow ended up in Kansas? Pretty much this is what you get in the eastern side of WA and Spokane is the best thing around.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-11-07 02:32:25 AM  

Tenatra: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was in Spokane for 4 days for a conference. Hellllll no, never again.

Even the locals we talked to admitted the town sucked unless you had a car to GTFO and enjoy the outdoors. So to be fair, I didn't get to experience that bit.

Eh it's ok I guess, nothing to write home about though. They have Mt. Spokane and some hilly woodlands, it's the west side of washington that has all the cool outdoorsy stuff and it's pretty farking awesome over there. Let's say you went on some crazy bender and ended up out here (see pic below) with no recollection of how you got there, would you know you are just southwest of Spokane? or would you think that you somehow ended up in Kansas? Pretty much this is what you get in the eastern side of WA and Spokane is the best thing around.

[i.imgur.com image 850x337]


The land isn't flat enough for Kansas.
 
2013-11-07 02:41:51 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: The land isn't flat enough for Kansas.


know how I know you've never been to eastern Kansas? I knew that comment was coming if I mentioned Kansas. Let's just say it farking sucks and about the most eventful think you drive by in eastern WA is the occasional tumbleweed.
 
2013-11-07 02:43:00 AM  
Tenatra: think thing
 
2013-11-07 02:50:47 AM  

Tenatra: Wake Up Sheeple: The land isn't flat enough for Kansas.

know how I know you've never been to eastern Kansas? I knew that comment was coming if I mentioned Kansas. Let's just say it farking sucks and about the most eventful think you drive by in eastern WA is the occasional tumbleweed.


I've been there. I was talking about once you get past Lawrence (which isn't that far from the eastern border). Most of Kansas is flat, desolate.

Why try to start a fight when most people's perceptions of Kansas would be absolutely correct if you plunked them in the middle of the state on I-70? It's 7 hours of skull numbing driving.
 
2013-11-07 02:59:54 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Tenatra: Wake Up Sheeple: The land isn't flat enough for Kansas.

know how I know you've never been to eastern Kansas? I knew that comment was coming if I mentioned Kansas. Let's just say it farking sucks and about the most eventful think you drive by in eastern WA is the occasional tumbleweed.

I've been there. I was talking about once you get past Lawrence (which isn't that far from the eastern border). Most of Kansas is flat, desolate.

Why try to start a fight when most people's perceptions of Kansas would be absolutely correct if you plunked them in the middle of the state on I-70? It's 7 hours of skull numbing driving.


I forgot to mention that I've been to eastern WA too. Nice rolling hills, actual forests in parts, weird gigantic potholes.
 
2013-11-07 03:14:47 AM  
Not trying to pick a fight, I live in MO and I'm in and around KS occasionally. I've never taken a straight shot through KS on the highway, just travels on the smaller roads in the state. Yes the terrain isn't hilly but in my experience it consists of gentle hills. I just referred to the eastern side since those hills are like mountains for a lifelong resident of the state. :p
 
2013-11-07 07:06:32 AM  
colorado springs is cool and ft worth isn't bad
 
2013-11-07 07:11:22 AM  
from experience i can say that it is better living in the country than in a city; less pollution, crime, waste, etc. I think the only think i miss is convenient grocery stores.
 
2013-11-07 10:30:17 AM  

The Lone Gunman: I'll agree when I see an article about the most liberal cities and why conservatives avoid them (besides that there are liberals who live there).


That demand has nothing to do with the premis of the argument.
 
2013-11-07 10:48:29 AM  

Tenatra: Not trying to pick a fight, I live in MO and I'm in and around KS occasionally. I've never taken a straight shot through KS on the highway, just travels on the smaller roads in the state. Yes the terrain isn't hilly but in my experience it consists of gentle hills. I just referred to the eastern side since those hills are like mountains for a lifelong resident of the state. :p


The hills are noticeable because of the massive land area. The whole of Kansas is literally flatter than a pancake.
 
2013-11-07 11:48:39 AM  
Spokane is dirty, hot, full of weeds, racist, stupid, and not very well planned out.

I spent ten years too long in that crap hole.
 
2013-11-07 01:44:00 PM  

HeadLever: The Lone Gunman: I'll agree when I see an article about the most liberal cities and why conservatives avoid them (besides that there are liberals who live there).

That demand has nothing to do with the premis of the argument.


The premise of your argument is "both sides do it".  The problem is that they don't.

For example, just today Senator Ted Cruz said that Obama should stay out of Texas when he goes around promoting Obamacare.  Have you ever heard of an elected Democrat saying something like that?

I'm saying that "Both sides are wrong" is a common argument that conservatives make to say "We're wrong, but since we can't ADMIT that we're wrong, we'll say that the other side is equally wrong".  And when that's not the case, I'll dispute it.  It's not a strawman.
 
2013-11-07 02:26:38 PM  

The Lone Gunman: The premise of your argument is "both sides do it".


The problem with your argument here is that you don't follow through with what 'it' entails and then to move the goalpost to a strawman involving convenient talking points.  My premis is that 'both sides mock the other, not because of what the other side thinks but for what theyTHINK the other side thinks'.

If you want to keep arguing on the actual merits of my argument, that is fine.  If you want to beat up a strawman, you can do that too - just don't pretend that it has anything to do with the original premise.
 
2013-11-07 09:58:43 PM  

HeadLever: The Lone Gunman: The premise of your argument is "both sides do it".

The problem with your argument here is that you don't follow through with what 'it' entails and then to move the goalpost to a strawman involving convenient talking points.  My premis is that 'both sides mock the other, not because of what the other side thinks but for what theyTHINK the other side thinks'.

If you want to keep arguing on the actual merits of my argument, that is fine.  If you want to beat up a strawman, you can do that too - just don't pretend that it has anything to do with the original premise.


I've found that a lot of people use the term "strawman" like the use "non sequitur":  Like the mere act of using that phrase magically makes it so.

And my argument is that both sides do not do it equally.  And when someone says "Both sides do it" without qualifying it, then that's clearly what they're saying.
 
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