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(Estately)   The 13 best cities for urban conservatives, as chosen by people who think Spokane is a city   (blog.estately.com) divider line 129
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2013-11-06 02:49:43 PM  
I haven't been to many of these cities. But I have been to Spokane. And I have never been to a shiattier, more down-trodden, dilapidated, meth-fueled, ignorant, racist, uneducated over grown trailer park of a city in my life.

It's also where my father's side of the family is from. He and his brother left. His sister didn't. Guess which sibling became a meth cook teenage mother?
 
2013-11-06 02:50:04 PM  

Tenatra: factoryconnection: CPennypacker: God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will

It did look pretty f'n sad. The Puget Sound area, liberals and rain be damned, is absolutely gorgeous. Spokane ain't doing it for me.

I actually thought CPennypacker was making a joke about it looking so bad that they didn't want to include a picture of it. (Apparently that image didn't load for me) :p

Although, take a child to the Spokane riverfront and this will be one of their greatest memories.
[www.uptake.com image 850x637]
/image stolen from google
//not sure if kids these days even play with wagons... so maybe you will enjoy it by remembering your own youth more than they'd enjoy it at all


Climbing all over this thing is one of my fond childhood memories...

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2013-11-06 02:53:50 PM  

Tenatra: not sure if kids these days even play with wagons... so maybe you will enjoy it by remembering your own youth more than they'd enjoy it at all


That's a pretty b*tchin' slide.
 
2013-11-06 02:53:51 PM  

Mikey1969: I did Riverfront Park back in '83 or so , when i was a teenager. It was farking awesome, but the wagon must be new since then. I'd steal that thing if I could.


I lived there from '89-'98. Not sure when it was installed but iirc it has been there since at least the early 90s

/just looked it up it appears to have been installed in 1990. http://spokaneriverfrontpark.com/index.php/RFP/page/367/
 
2013-11-06 02:54:34 PM  

Bazzlex001: I haven't been to many of these cities. But I have been to Spokane. And I have never been to a shiattier, more down-trodden, dilapidated, meth-fueled, ignorant, racist, uneducated over grown trailer park of a city in my life.

It's also where my father's side of the family is from. He and his brother left. His sister didn't. Guess which sibling became a meth cook teenage mother?


I knew a girl who was stationed at Fairchild Air Force Base, which is just outside of Spokane.  She said it was a depressing hellhole, too.
 
2013-11-06 02:55:26 PM  
Note on Oklahoma City:

Famous Locals: Sports columnist Skip Bayless,

BURN IT. BURN THE PLACE TO THE GROUND AND SALT THE EARTH AFTERWARD.
 
2013-11-06 02:58:11 PM  
Plano, TX., is not where you go to get rich. It is where you go when you want to pretend that 80K a year IS rich.
 
2013-11-06 03:01:51 PM  

sillydragon: Climbing all over this thing is one of my fond childhood memories...

[static.panoramio.com image 850x619]


Hey I played drunk tag on and around that thing in my early 20's. And you know that ramp towards the right side of this image? CSB. One night I was wandering around aimlessly and walked up it only to find a homeless man sleeping at the top of the ramp. I walked back down quietly so I didn't startle him.
 
2013-11-06 03:02:32 PM  

Bazzlex001: I haven't been to many of these cities. But I have been to Spokane. And I have never been to a shiattier, more down-trodden, dilapidated, meth-fueled, ignorant, racist, uneducated over grown trailer park of a city in my life.

It's also where my father's side of the family is from. He and his brother left. His sister didn't. Guess which sibling became a meth cook teenage mother?


It would be pretty weird if your dad or uncle became a teenage mother.
 
2013-11-06 03:05:56 PM  
Three of the places on this list are Fort Worth, Arlington and Plano. Do you even get to do that in a list like this? 'Hey, Dallas isn't for you, but look at all these individual suburbs of Dallas we can use to fill up the list!' I'm pretty sure the going rule of 'best cities to X' lists is one city to an area.
 
2013-11-06 03:06:02 PM  
Except conservatism is synonymous with rural or small town.

Article makes as much sense as "15 BEST TRAILER PARKS FOR LIBERALS".
 
2013-11-06 03:15:16 PM  

Herbie555: I'm tickled that on the electoral district maps, most of these so-called conservative "safe-zones" are either Blue or Pink/Purple, indicating relatively less conservative than the surrounding suburban or rural districts.  The only exception I see is in Arizona where the districts are absolutely HUGE due to low population density and cover vast areas of empty desert.


I live in Arizona's largest district, which went blue in 2008, red in 2010, and blue again last year. The Navajos, Hopis, and Apaches are PISSED at the Teatards/Mormons, and are a considerable voting bloc. Since the T-tards keep biatching about the same things over and over again, but can't live without that sweet, sweet welfare coming in, I don't think we'll be going red again for a while.
 
2013-11-06 03:17:53 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Plano, TX., is not where you go to get rich. It is where you go when you want to pretend that 80K a year IS rich.


To be fair it was sorta famous a few years back for its rampant teenage heroin use, so you got that I guess.

/nowadays all the suburbanites flock to Frisco, not Plano
 
2013-11-06 03:21:34 PM  

Tenatra: sillydragon: Climbing all over this thing is one of my fond childhood memories...

[static.panoramio.com image 850x619]

Hey I played drunk tag on and around that thing in my early 20's. And you know that ramp towards the right side of this image? CSB. One night I was wandering around aimlessly and walked up it only to find a homeless man sleeping at the top of the ramp. I walked back down quietly so I didn't startle him.


Yeah, the homeless used to use it a lot to sleep at night. And I played endless tag on that thing (though not drunk, too young at the time). In retrospect I'm really surprised that I didn't fall off of the top and break my arm or something.
 
2013-11-06 03:22:33 PM  
Jacksonville is one of the worlds biggest shiatholes.  Spokanne is a classic case of red state derpers talking about how bootstrappy they all are while sucking up that sweet, sweet tax welfare generated by all the productive liberal hippies that live in Seattle.

So please, conservatives, move to Jacksonville.  You're taking too much out of my wallet in Spokanne.
 
2013-11-06 03:37:21 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Plano, TX., is not where you go to get rich. It is where you go when you want to pretend that 80K a year IS rich.

To be fair it was sorta famous a few years back for its rampant teenage heroin use, so you got that I guess.

/nowadays all the suburbanites flock to Frisco, not Plano


lol. I remember that. I was in high school at the time. I ain't from Plano, though. I live in Richardson, which is right next to Plano and older, and somehow far more diverse. Best pho I ever had anywhere was right here. My wife's parents live in Frisco, though... whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite. So very white.
 
2013-11-06 03:40:05 PM  

sillydragon: Tenatra: sillydragon: Climbing all over this thing is one of my fond childhood memories...

[static.panoramio.com image 850x619]

Hey I played drunk tag on and around that thing in my early 20's. And you know that ramp towards the right side of this image? CSB. One night I was wandering around aimlessly and walked up it only to find a homeless man sleeping at the top of the ramp. I walked back down quietly so I didn't startle him.

Yeah, the homeless used to use it a lot to sleep at night. And I played endless tag on that thing (though not drunk, too young at the time). In retrospect I'm really surprised that I didn't fall off of the top and break my arm or something.


Was at the Red Lion across the river there a few weeks ago for a conference.  The homeless still sleep under the bridges until quite late in the morning.  I don't think I saw even 1 kid playing on it all week when I would walk by.

I did have a very nice rare lamb steak at the Steam Plant that week. Co-worker and I also tried Sante a few times.  Now that was tasty.

I don't think Spokane can brew tho.  All the local brews tasted fruity.  A wheat should not taste like apples.
 
2013-11-06 03:42:55 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Ah, it makes sense, tech centers are full of "libertarian" right-wing derpmongers. The IT industry is full of 'em.


Ah yes, the fedorated masses of self-made men with state school CS degrees.
 
2013-11-06 03:48:58 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: A Dark Evil Omen: bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Ah, it makes sense, tech centers are full of "libertarian" right-wing derpmongers. The IT industry is full of 'em.

Ah yes, the fedorated masses of self-made men with state school CS degrees.


In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony government's services. But because, I am enlightened by my hard work.
 
2013-11-06 03:59:08 PM  
Petey4335:  I don't think I saw even 1 kid playing on it all week when I would walk by.

Not surprised. Homeless people or not, that thing was really dangerous to play on in the wintertime.
 
2013-11-06 04:05:18 PM  
Spokane: Reason Liberals Avoid It:  It's really close to Idaho

Ironically, when I was driving from Seattle to Glacier and my parents were flying into Spokane to meet me half way, we stayed the night in Coeur d'Alene, ID, specifically to avoid Spokane.

As for the insane ramblings of the rep from Plano, are there even any nuclear bombs that can be loaded on an F-15? I'd assume they'd use a bomber for that.
 
2013-11-06 04:13:54 PM  

Tenatra: Mikey1969: I did Riverfront Park back in '83 or so , when i was a teenager. It was farking awesome, but the wagon must be new since then. I'd steal that thing if I could.

I lived there from '89-'98. Not sure when it was installed but iirc it has been there since at least the early 90s

/just looked it up it appears to have been installed in 1990. http://spokaneriverfrontpark.com/index.php/RFP/page/367/


Cool, thanks for the update. That is so farking cool.
 
2013-11-06 04:14:36 PM  

Mikey1969: Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...


Subby here. I grew up in Hayden Lake, ID, so Spokane represented "the city" to me as a youth. I even saw my first rock concert there - Grand Funk Railroad and Wet Willie, July, 1974. Since then I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Seattle again, and over the years I've learned at least one thing that is true: Spokane may be a bunch of people living close together, but it is most definitely not a city.
 
2013-11-06 04:16:45 PM  

VarmintCong: Spokane: Reason Liberals Avoid It:  It's really close to Idaho

Ironically, when I was driving from Seattle to Glacier and my parents were flying into Spokane to meet me half way, we stayed the night in Coeur d'Alene, ID, specifically to avoid Spokane.

As for the insane ramblings of the rep from Plano, are there even any nuclear bombs that can be loaded on an F-15? I'd assume they'd use a bomber for that.


Idaho is fine. Jesus, a few White Supremacist nutjobs hang out in the upper reaches of the state, and people label(Funny thing about 'Liberals', it seems they aren't adverse to stereotyping either) the ENTIRE state. Hell, it isn't even ALL of Hayden Lake or even ALL of Couer d'Alene. I've met people from the region, and they can't believe the label, considering how small of a portion of the population they represent.
 
2013-11-06 04:21:23 PM  
Anyone who calls Nashville the Buckle of the Bible Belt has never been to Little Rock. Or the actual Bible Belt.
 
2013-11-06 04:22:00 PM  

BMulligan: Mikey1969: Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...

Subby here. I grew up in Hayden Lake, ID, so Spokane represented "the city" to me as a youth. I even saw my first rock concert there - Grand Funk Railroad and Wet Willie, July, 1974. Since then I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Seattle again, and over the years I've learned at least one thing that is true: Spokane may be a bunch of people living close together, but it is most definitely not a city.


My parents used to own a cabin right on the lagoon in Twin Lakes just up the road.  I loved that place.
 
2013-11-06 04:24:28 PM  

BMulligan: Mikey1969: Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...

Subby here. I grew up in Hayden Lake, ID, so Spokane represented "the city" to me as a youth. I even saw my first rock concert there - Grand Funk Railroad and Wet Willie, July, 1974. Since then I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Seattle again, and over the years I've learned at least one thing that is true: Spokane may be a bunch of people living close together, but it is most definitely not a city.


LOL, I grew up In American Falls, ID. Pocatello was "the city" to me. 54,000 strong as of 2010. In comparison, American Falls was around 3,500. That would still be fine for me. Cities make me a little nutty after awhile, but at least I got out of Phoenix. That was way too much city for me.
 
2013-11-06 04:27:19 PM  

Mikey1969: VarmintCong: Spokane: Reason Liberals Avoid It:  It's really close to Idaho

Ironically, when I was driving from Seattle to Glacier and my parents were flying into Spokane to meet me half way, we stayed the night in Coeur d'Alene, ID, specifically to avoid Spokane.

As for the insane ramblings of the rep from Plano, are there even any nuclear bombs that can be loaded on an F-15? I'd assume they'd use a bomber for that.

Idaho is fine. Jesus, a few White Supremacist nutjobs hang out in the upper reaches of the state, and people label(Funny thing about 'Liberals', it seems they aren't adverse to stereotyping either) the ENTIRE state. Hell, it isn't even ALL of Hayden Lake or even ALL of Couer d'Alene. I've met people from the region, and they can't believe the label, considering how small of a portion of the population they represent.


Years before Richard Butler and his goons moved to town, my dad hired a guy from Trinidad. He received multiple death threats. It was the kind of place where everyone knew the sheriff beat his wife and daughters but re-elected him anyway because he didn't "mollycoddle" the prisoners. Don't tell me how wonderful the people of Hayden Lake and Coeur d'Alene are - they're mostly a bunch of vicious, small minded bigots.
 
2013-11-06 04:34:02 PM  

Mikey1969: Funny thing about 'Liberals', it seems they aren't adverse to stereotyping either)


My stereotype of Idaho is "They have potatoes."

And by "potatoes", I mean actual potatoes. The food item.

Painting with a broad brush, are we?
 
2013-11-06 04:34:29 PM  

BMulligan: Mikey1969: Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...

Subby here. I grew up in Hayden Lake, ID, so Spokane represented "the city" to me as a youth. I even saw my first rock concert there - Grand Funk Railroad and Wet Willie, July, 1974. Since then I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Seattle again, and over the years I've learned at least one thing that is true: Spokane may be a bunch of people living close together, but it is most definitely not a city.


The best way to see Spokane is in your rear view mirror.
 
2013-11-06 04:36:01 PM  

Fart_Machine: Also why the fark would anyone recommend Anaheim? A tourist-based city that depends on a cheap immigrant workforce? Ok that sounds about right.


And the real Anaheim, not around Disneyland or the arenas, is kind of a shiathole. And I'm not sure that conservatives would dig living in a city bordered by Santa Ana. Too many messicans for them.
 
2013-11-06 04:38:31 PM  
I'm convinced that 80-90% of the worst people on the planet are urban conservatives.

It just takes a special kind of moral bankruptcy to interact with people who are different from you on a daily basis, and still maintain a philosophical antipathy towards them.
 
2013-11-06 04:41:42 PM  

grumpfuff: My stereotype of Idaho is "They have potatoes."


True of the Snake River Plain, but not so much once you get north of the 44th. Even though production peaked in the late 90s, we still are the largest producer in the US.
 
2013-11-06 04:44:25 PM  

grumpfuff: Mikey1969: Funny thing about 'Liberals', it seems they aren't adverse to stereotyping either)

My stereotype of Idaho is "They have potatoes."

And by "potatoes", I mean actual potatoes. The food item.

Painting with a broad brush, are we?


Nope. The OP started it, I was responding, while making a point, wondering if someone would bite. Seems like someone did. My point is that, as much as they proclaim stereotyping "bad", Liberals do it just as often, but they feel that they are personally justified, so it's OK. Just re-applying the "broad brush".
 
2013-11-06 04:44:58 PM  

HeadLever: grumpfuff: My stereotype of Idaho is "They have potatoes."

True of the Snake River Plain, but not so much once you get north of the 44th. Even though production peaked in the late 90s, we still are the largest producer in the US.


Huh. I done learned something.

However, every time I think of Idaho, the first thing that comes to mind is always George Carlin's bit about license plates.
 
2013-11-06 04:45:02 PM  

udhq: I'm convinced that 80-90% of the worst people on the planet are urban conservatives.

It just takes a special kind of moral bankruptcy to interact with people who are different from you on a daily basis, and still maintain a philosophical antipathy towards them.


I take it that the irony of your post is unintended?
 
2013-11-06 04:47:13 PM  

grumpfuff: However, every time I think of Idaho, the first thing that comes to mind is always George Carlin's bit about license plates.


yep.  Still there too. The designs change every frikken day, but that silly slogan still lives on.

www.plateshack.com
 
2013-11-06 04:47:40 PM  

jst3p: BMulligan: Mikey1969: Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...

Subby here. I grew up in Hayden Lake, ID, so Spokane represented "the city" to me as a youth. I even saw my first rock concert there - Grand Funk Railroad and Wet Willie, July, 1974. Since then I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Seattle again, and over the years I've learned at least one thing that is true: Spokane may be a bunch of people living close together, but it is most definitely not a city.

The best way to see Spokane is in your rear view mirror.


I use that joke at work, except about Tacoma. It's company policy to make fun of Tacoma.
 
2013-11-06 04:48:27 PM  

HeadLever: udhq: I'm convinced that 80-90% of the worst people on the planet are urban conservatives.

It just takes a special kind of moral bankruptcy to interact with people who are different from you on a daily basis, and still maintain a philosophical antipathy towards them.

I take it that the irony of your post is unintended?


Know how I know you learned about "irony" from Alanis Morrisette?
 
2013-11-06 04:53:38 PM  

HeadLever: grumpfuff: My stereotype of Idaho is "They have potatoes."

True of the Snake River Plain, but not so much once you get north of the 44th. Even though production peaked in the late 90s, we still are the largest producer in the US.


Are you telling me that those mountainsides don't work for farming? ;-)
 
2013-11-06 05:02:48 PM  
I'm pretty libby and I would intensely consider living in Boise if an offer came up. It's really great downtown.

The outer towns.... nope.
 
2013-11-06 05:09:33 PM  

udhq: Know how I know you learned about "irony" from Alanis Morrisette?


So it was unintended then!  Made me lol.

That post is perfectly ironic from the outside as you are exemplifying the character triats you are railing against.
 
2013-11-06 05:14:38 PM  

Lunchlady: The outer towns.... nope.


Ah, the outer towns are not all that bad.  It is not all hillbilly hell around here.  Most folks will still give you the shirt off thier backs with no questions asked.  You break down or have a flat tire around here and you can always count on somebody stopping to help.
 
2013-11-06 05:58:51 PM  

VarmintCong: Spokane: Reason Liberals Avoid It:  It's really close to Idaho

Ironically, when I was driving from Seattle to Glacier and my parents were flying into Spokane to meet me half way, we stayed the night in Coeur d'Alene, ID, specifically to avoid Spokane.

As for the insane ramblings of the rep from Plano, are there even any nuclear bombs that can be loaded on an F-15? I'd assume they'd use a bomber for that.


The F-15C Eagle is your typical, single-seat air-to-air fighter.  The F-15E Strike Eagle is sort of a beefed-up, hybrid fighter-bomber, with a pilot and a Weapons Systems Officer.

It can carry small/medium nukes.
 
2013-11-06 06:02:55 PM  
My favorite section is "Reason Liberals Stay Away".

Remember, we don't mock liberals because of what they think.  We mock them for what we THINK they think.
 
2013-11-06 06:06:03 PM  

The Lone Gunman: Remember, we don't mock liberals because of what they think. We mock them for what we THINK they think.


Pretty sure that everyone plays that game.  Much easier to tear down a strawman than actually address the real arguments.
 
2013-11-06 06:09:21 PM  

HeadLever: The Lone Gunman: Remember, we don't mock liberals because of what they think. We mock them for what we THINK they think.

Pretty sure that everyone plays that game.  Much easier to tear down a strawman than actually address the real arguments.


So vote republican.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-11-06 06:12:02 PM  
Having lived near Spokane (CDA, ID, where the Aryan Nation tried to recruit me) for a time before moving back home to Arizona, Spokane is much more of a city than the bedroom community of Gilbert Arizona.  Gilbert has no character, and just aspires to be Scottsdale.
 
2013-11-06 06:15:04 PM  

super_grass: So vote republican.


Vote for the person that fits your ideology best.  If the letter behind the name is all you care about then you make a good puppet.
 
2013-11-06 06:21:57 PM  
Spokanians are so dumb, they thought that by voting out Tom Foley, they were electing George Nethercutt to be Speaker of the House.  Gingrich played the citizenry like a 16th-century Stradivari.
 
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