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(Estately)   The 13 best cities for urban conservatives, as chosen by people who think Spokane is a city   (blog.estately.com) divider line 129
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2013-11-06 01:16:25 PM
Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.
 
2013-11-06 01:26:58 PM
I want to live in a city but I'm afraid of exposing myself to other cultures and viewpoints.
 
2013-11-06 01:27:27 PM
I'm kind of automatically prejudiced against anything that follows the current fad of tacking "-ly" on the end of a name, but this blog was poorly written, too. The reasons the writer imagines Liberals avoid each city were especially stupid.
 
2013-11-06 01:35:55 PM
Good use of the silly tag.
 
2013-11-06 01:37:44 PM
Ha.  "Urban conservatives."  The closest they'd ever come to urban is a white-bread gated community of identical suburban homes with a 1 hour commute from anything even slightly different from themselves.
 
2013-11-06 01:38:22 PM

bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.


Ah, it makes sense, tech centers are full of "libertarian" right-wing derpmongers. The IT industry is full of 'em.
 
2013-11-06 01:38:44 PM
Why did they rotate their map of California like that?  Also, it's hilarious how many of those cities are in or directly adjacent to blue districts.
 
2013-11-06 01:40:23 PM

IrateShadow: Why did they rotate their map of California like that?  Also, it's hilarious how many of those cities are in or directly adjacent to blue districts.


"The best places for conservatives: Places where the center and left are doing all the work and they can live comfortably in their little bubble of stupidity and outrage without consequence."
 
2013-11-06 01:42:20 PM
NYC. Seriously, it's easy if you don't mind teh gheys, browns and gun laws
 
2013-11-06 01:43:24 PM
5th-BOISE, ID

Already been tried...

thereservoirblogs.files.wordpress.com

Seriously, though. Boise is gorgeous. I'd move there despite derptastic legislators. I mean, I moved to Utah, didn't I? I also used to live in Phx, home of Sheriff Joe, so it's not like I'm not used to morons calling the shots.
 
2013-11-06 01:48:15 PM
Um, subby? Spokane has a population of 209,000. Sounds like a "city" to me. OTOH, Silicon Valley ISN'T a city, but a region, so I'm not sure what your "point" was...
 
2013-11-06 01:49:10 PM
Three of those cities are suburbs of Dallas, one is a suburb of Phoenix, and one is a suburb of LA.  That's not really what one considers a "city" in the demographic sense.  People in Buffalo tell their friends "I'm moving to Dallas."  They don't say "I'm moving to Plano."  People who live in Plano probably imagine that people do say that, but trust me... they don't.

However, Plano is quite a bit better than conservative cities like Pine Bluff, AR or Greenville, SC.  That may have something to do with its proximity to that corrupt den of liberalism - Dallas.
 
2013-11-06 01:50:17 PM
 
2013-11-06 01:51:11 PM
I'm surprised Tulsa didn't make the list, given its proximity to OKC and similarity.  But I'm doing my best to turn this city blue, so...
 
2013-11-06 01:51:23 PM
Cities are more liberal because you interact with so many people on a daily basis. Once you meet people that aren't exactly like you, you realize they're still decent human beings and you become tolerant of their life choices. And when you meet good people that were dealt a bad hand, you get more sympathetic to their problems. Tolerance and sympathy don't work well with (modern) conservatism.
 
2013-11-06 01:51:28 PM

Mikey1969: 5th-BOISE, ID

Already been tried...

[thereservoirblogs.files.wordpress.com image 400x609]

Seriously, though. Boise is gorgeous. I'd move there despite derptastic legislators. I mean, I moved to Utah, didn't I? I also used to live in Phx, home of Sheriff Joe, so it's not like I'm not used to morons calling the shots.


Boise is great.  I would add SLC to that list as well.  That's a much better "conservative" city than freaking Jacksonville.  Nobody likes Jacksonville.  You never get used to the smell.
 
2013-11-06 01:51:31 PM
I guess things aren't looking so great for conservatives then.

6th-NASHVILLE, TN
Percent Who Voted For Obama (2012):  58.5%
Mayor:  Karl Dean-Democrat

13th--Silicon Valley
Percent Who Voted For Obama (2012): 69.8% (Santa Clara County)

And only 2 cities in their list, Jacksonville, FL and Fort Worth, TX had a population greater than Nashville.
 
2013-11-06 01:52:04 PM

Rapmaster2000: Three of those cities are suburbs of Dallas


Ft. Worth is not a "suburb" of Dallas.  That's like saying St. Paul is a suburb of Minneapolis, or Kansas City is a suburb of Kansas City.
 
2013-11-06 01:53:38 PM
I'm tickled that on the electoral district maps, most of these so-called conservative "safe-zones" are either Blue or Pink/Purple, indicating relatively less conservative than the surrounding suburban or rural districts.  The only exception I see is in Arizona where the districts are absolutely HUGE due to low population density and cover vast areas of empty desert.
 
2013-11-06 01:54:06 PM
The more urban an area is, the more you're interacting with different cultures and the more your actions effect others (and the more their actions effect you). As a result, cities tend to be more liberal than their surrounding areas.

Idaho is DEEP red.  Ada County even votes Republican.  But the actual city of Boise?  Pretty solid Democrat.  Almost every representative in the state legislature from Boise is a Democrat and the city council has a super majority of liberals (although it's a non-partisan election so it's not real easy to tell some times).

If you can't stand being around Democrats, Boise is increasingly not a place to be.  Move to some rural county just outside of Boise and you'll be fine.
 
2013-11-06 01:54:24 PM
Didn't Colorado Springs just burn down because they didn't have enough revenue to fight the fires?
 
2013-11-06 01:54:28 PM

bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.


There was a bit of WTF with that one - a place that went 70:30 for Obama makes the top 13 of densely populated areas in the country for Conservatives.
 
2013-11-06 01:54:38 PM
Guess they didn't get The Citadel off the ground yet. But I feel bad about missing out on Oklahoma City and that pigeon museum.
 
2013-11-06 01:54:41 PM
No Salt Lake City? Where you can join the old fat white conservative club Mormon and use the club contacts to have the taxpayers build you a soccer stadium?

Complete Fail.
 
2013-11-06 01:56:08 PM
Reason Liberals Avoid It:

Arlington: It's the largest American city not served by a comprehensive public transportation system.
Anaheim: Disney's labor practices
OKC: Tornadoes


Do... do conservatives like all this?

Nashville: They're waiting for Dolly Parton to come to them.
Silicon Valley: They don't


Awesome article, bro.
 
2013-11-06 01:57:21 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: bdub77: Silicon Valley?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Ah, it makes sense, tech centers are full of "libertarian" right-wing derpmongers. The IT industry is full of 'em.


I am shocked that a bunch of white men making significantly more $$$ than the average person think Ayn Rand is #1.

No wait, I'm not.
 
2013-11-06 01:59:06 PM
Reason Liberals Avoid It: Tornadoes

I hear the jury's still out on Tornadoes
 
2013-11-06 01:59:17 PM
Also why the fark would anyone recommend Anaheim? A tourist-based city that depends on a cheap immigrant workforce? Ok that sounds about right.
 
2013-11-06 02:00:09 PM
Reason Liberals Avoid It: It's the largest American city not served by a comprehensive public transportation system.

Liberals love going places.
 
2013-11-06 02:01:18 PM
So a  vast  sprawl of ubiquitous TGIF Fridays, Targets  and Bed Bath & Beyonds is considered "urban"?
 
2013-11-06 02:01:36 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Rapmaster2000: Three of those cities are suburbs of Dallas

Ft. Worth is not a "suburb" of Dallas.  That's like saying St. Paul is a suburb of Minneapolis, or Kansas City is a suburb of Kansas City.


This is true.  Fort Worth is a city roughly 500,000 people smaller than Dallas and located within the MSA anchored by Dallas.  It's within the media market of the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Mavericks, and the Dallas Stars.

Similar cities include Ft. Lauderdale, St. Paul, Newark, and East St. Lous - cities overshadowed by their larger neighbors.

So you are technically correct.  The best kind of correct.
 
2013-11-06 02:02:19 PM
I recently visited Fort Worth very briefly.

It was unusual in that it seemed like a very small town that accidentally grew skyscrapers.

Boise is nice. That's it. Just nice.

Houston is curiously missing. Probably because of our gay mayor.
 
2013-11-06 02:02:53 PM

CPennypacker: Reason Liberals Avoid It: It's the largest American city not served by a comprehensive public transportation system.

Liberals love going places.


But driving is scary.
 
2013-11-06 02:03:59 PM

Noam Chimpsky: CPennypacker: Reason Liberals Avoid It: It's the largest American city not served by a comprehensive public transportation system.

Liberals love going places.

But driving is scary.


Unless its in a Prius M I RITE
 
2013-11-06 02:06:37 PM
Whole lot of butthurt in that article.

Most of the "reasons liberals avoid it" are either whining(so-and-so has an A from the NRA/Heritage), common sense(I'm pretty sure conservatives avoid tornadoes too), or wrong(the reason I'm not moving to Anchorage has nothing to do with Palin).

Though I like how they forgot to include a reason for Jacksonville.
 
2013-11-06 02:06:56 PM
I like this: "Colorado Springs is keeping it conservative. This mountain city is home to the U.S. Air Force Academy, a handful of military bases, and numerous defense industry jobs."

"Keeping it conservative" means "socialism", because those are a bunch of jobs funded by Federal tax money, and working for the collective good as determined by the centralized Federal government.
 
2013-11-06 02:07:08 PM
Reason Liberals Avoid It: They don't, but the high cost of living is a challenge for lots of people.

Liberals can't afford the cost of living here because its driven up by all the liberals living here
 
2013-11-06 02:08:08 PM

Car_Ramrod: Reason Liberals Avoid It:

Arlington: It's the largest American city not served by a comprehensive public transportation system.
Anaheim: Disney's labor practices
OKC: Tornadoes

Do... do conservatives like all this?



Yes. They can joyously shout about their tax dollars aren't being wasted on silly things like infrastructure, coo over all the parking spaces for their mobility scooters at Disney world while eating an entire chicken, rail against "lib areas" in the north who need help after a natural disaster, and finally, after some mental gymnastics, demand federal money when their house is torn to shreds by a tornado. Sounds like a modern conservative to me.
 
2013-11-06 02:08:12 PM
God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will
 
2013-11-06 02:08:25 PM
Anchorage, AK
Spokane, WA


I've lived in both of them.
No.
 
2013-11-06 02:10:55 PM
Anchorage, AK? Liberals avoid it because Sarah Palin is just down the road in Wasilla? Hahaha...yeah no. Wasilla has been a pretty speshul place for a long time. When I was a kid in Anchorage we used to make jokes about Wasilla. I also like that "It's a conservative wonderland...if you ignore recent gains Democrats have been making." This is an awesome place to be a republican!...if you ignore the fact that we're starting to lose our grip here too.*cough*
 
2013-11-06 02:13:16 PM

boise3981: But the actual city of Boise? Pretty solid Democrat


But you also need to remember what passes for a Democrat in Idaho is still pretty conservative.
 
2013-11-06 02:16:48 PM
 I detected a lack of "Very few coloreds live here" in the arguments for a city, even though it seems like they intentionally set out to compile a list of the whitest cities in America.
 
2013-11-06 02:24:14 PM

sillydragon: Anchorage, AK? Liberals avoid it because Sarah Palin is just down the road in Wasilla? Hahaha...yeah no. Wasilla has been a pretty speshul place for a long time. When I was a kid in Anchorage we used to make jokes about Wasilla. I also like that "It's a conservative wonderland...if you ignore recent gains Democrats have been making." This is an awesome place to be a republican!...if you ignore the fact that we're starting to lose our grip here too.*cough*


I just about spit my drink when I saw that. Especially the "no sales or income tax" part. That's because of the evil, socialist experiment called the permanent fund, you dumbasses. No one "avoids" Alaska because of Sarah Palin. Hell, I don't think she even lives there anymore.

Stay out of my hometown, assholes!
 
2013-11-06 02:25:22 PM
Am I missing the "humor" in that article because I'm an uptight, ivory-tower, self-loathing liberal or is it because their jokes aren't funny.  "Ha, ha!  Arlington is nothing but sprawl and traffic!  F*ck buses and subways!  Pave more fields!"

Also: I'm sure several of the listed places are nice, but couldn't they have picked images that didn't look like abandoned cities?

CPennypacker: God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will


It did look pretty f'n sad.  The Puget Sound area, liberals and rain be damned, is absolutely gorgeous.  Spokane ain't doing it for me.
 
2013-11-06 02:27:06 PM

factoryconnection: Am I missing the "humor" in that article because I'm an uptight, ivory-tower, self-loathing liberal or is it because their jokes aren't funny.  "Ha, ha!  Arlington is nothing but sprawl and traffic!  F*ck buses and subways!  Pave more fields!"

Also: I'm sure several of the listed places are nice, but couldn't they have picked images that didn't look like abandoned cities?

CPennypacker: God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will

It did look pretty f'n sad.  The Puget Sound area, liberals and rain be damned, is absolutely gorgeous.  Spokane ain't doing it for me.


Agree. I love Seattle->North (my in-laws are from Mt Vernon and my sister in law is in B-Ham)
 
2013-11-06 02:31:56 PM
 Arlington TX - Because nothing says "conservative" and "small government"   like chipping in $400 million in public taxpayer revenues to help pay for a billionaire's privately owned football stadium.
 
2013-11-06 02:32:50 PM

cram_hole: Didn't Colorado Springs just burn down because they didn't have enough revenue to fight the fires?


Not only that, but it burned down in the dark because they didn't have enough revenue to keep the street lights on.  When it's not on fire, it's a bastion of dimly-lit, crumbling "conservative values".
 
2013-11-06 02:36:30 PM

factoryconnection: CPennypacker: God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will

It did look pretty f'n sad. The Puget Sound area, liberals and rain be damned, is absolutely gorgeous. Spokane ain't doing it for me.


I actually thought CPennypacker was making a joke about it looking so bad that they didn't want to include a picture of it. (Apparently that image didn't load for me) :p

Although, take a child to the Spokane riverfront and this will be one of their greatest memories.
www.uptake.com
/image stolen from google
//not sure if kids these days even play with wagons... so maybe you will enjoy it by remembering your own youth more than they'd enjoy it at all
 
2013-11-06 02:43:32 PM

Rapmaster2000: Mikey1969: 5th-BOISE, ID

Already been tried...

[thereservoirblogs.files.wordpress.com image 400x609]

Seriously, though. Boise is gorgeous. I'd move there despite derptastic legislators. I mean, I moved to Utah, didn't I? I also used to live in Phx, home of Sheriff Joe, so it's not like I'm not used to morons calling the shots.

Boise is great.  I would add SLC to that list as well.  That's a much better "conservative" city than freaking Jacksonville.  Nobody likes Jacksonville.  You never get used to the smell.


Tenatra: factoryconnection: CPennypacker: God just look at that shot of Spokane. If that doesn't make you want to slit your wrists, nothing will

It did look pretty f'n sad. The Puget Sound area, liberals and rain be damned, is absolutely gorgeous. Spokane ain't doing it for me.

I actually thought CPennypacker was making a joke about it looking so bad that they didn't want to include a picture of it. (Apparently that image didn't load for me) :p

Although, take a child to the Spokane riverfront and this will be one of their greatest memories.
[www.uptake.com image 850x637]
/image stolen from google
//not sure if kids these days even play with wagons... so maybe you will enjoy it by remembering your own youth more than they'd enjoy it at all


I did Riverfront Park back in '83 or so , when i was a teenager. It was farking awesome, but the wagon must be new since then. I'd steal that thing if I could.
 
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