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(CBS New York)   For Democratic mayor-elect of NYC Bill de Blasio, his ambitious agenda will be progress for many New Yorkers indeed - but at what cost?   (newyork.cbslocal.com ) divider line 9
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2013-11-06 12:58:29 PM  
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Zeno-25: It's amazing that people in NYC can be so concerned and resentful about civil servants and other government employees having a good wage and ample pensions for retirement. Remember those? Guess private sector workers should have fought harder to keep them. Just look around where you are. It's an elite playground for the global rich. You're swimming in money.


I'll just leave this right here:

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2013-11-06 03:33:35 PM  
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AlwaysRightBoy: Gulper Eel: God_Almighty_Himself: I'm saying that if a garbage man retiring on $75k is going to break the bank, the city has bigger financial problems. I understand, though, that some people abhor the idea of honest workers retiring with dignity.

The Long Island Rail Road disability fraud scandal would like a word with you.

And those were just the ones that were caught. Tip of the iceberg.


As I stated earlier, I'm as pro-union as anybody.  The unions however don't help their cause when either the rank-and-file, the leadership or BOTH get caught doing crap like that.  It makes them an easy target for Republicans to point as to the "flaws" in the pension funds.

Either the unions get their house in order or the next Scott Walker might come along and do it for them in a way they'll hate.
2013-11-06 02:04:25 PM  
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chevydeuce: So are you actually denying that public sector pensions are NOT an issue in the country right now (and for the last decade plus)? Are you denying that the scenario doesn't happen on large scales?


I'm saying that if a garbage man retiring on $75k is going to break the bank, the city has bigger financial problems.  I understand, though, that some people abhor the idea of honest workers retiring with dignity.
2013-11-06 12:41:07 PM  
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It's amazing that people in NYC can be so concerned and resentful about civil servants and other government employees having a good wage and ample pensions for retirement. Remember those? Guess private sector workers should have fought harder to keep them. Just look around where you are. It's an elite playground for the global rich. You're swimming in money.
2013-11-06 11:47:59 AM  
1 vote:
The spread in the election results show a clear majority want to go in that direction.
Democracy at work
2013-11-06 11:01:49 AM  
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Dwight_Yeast: Well, if he doesn't do something, the rich and very rich are going to find themselves stuck in NYC with the poor in public housing, a few hundred crazy cat ladies in rent-controlled apartments, and no middle class to serve them or do their bidding.


Honestly, I won't mind at all if a few rich and very rich leave this city.  Didn't mind the gentrification move during Guiliani's administration but having hipsters and condos being put up in Williamsburg crossed the line with me.

/Yes I am serious
2013-11-06 10:57:10 AM  
1 vote:
Well, if he doesn't do something, the rich and very rich are going to find themselves stuck in NYC with the poor in public housing, a few hundred crazy cat ladies in rent-controlled apartments, and no middle class to serve them or do their bidding.
2013-11-06 10:47:21 AM  
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Gulper Eel: No, it's not going to go back to the bad old days just like that - the NYPD has acquired too many skills over the years for that to happen, and deBlasio will find out that all that surveillance and stop-n-frisking really was getting a shiatload of guns and dirtballs off the streets. I doubt there'll be any race-riotiing - Sonny Carson is dead, Al Sharpton fancies himself an elder statesman now, and Charles Barron has beclowned himself too many times.

Sharpton was never anything to begin with.  He built his reputation on a farking lie.  Barron will still be clownshoes.

The middle class will continue moving out of the city - only they'll leave the area altogether because the NYC suburbs aren't affordable either.

The state legislature isn't going to let DeBlaso have that big tax hike on rich folks, not without at the very least some horsetrading to give suburbanites a break from the MTA payroll tax.


I don't think I'd have a problem making that deal.  The windfall from a big tax hike for the rich could far outweigh giving suburbanites that break; the problem, of course, is making it transparent so that everybody sees it's working.

Now that there's official one-party rule again in the city, expect corruption to blossom. Six Democratic (there aren't any other kind) members of the City Council will be hauled off on corruption charges and be replaced by six other Democrats.

That was happening when Giuliani was Mayor and while Bloomberg's around, that's the one constant I can always point towards in this city: Dem City Council members getting hauled off to jail.
2013-11-06 10:22:06 AM  
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No, it's not going to go back to the bad old days just like that - the NYPD has acquired too many skills over the years for that to happen, and deBlasio will find out that all that surveillance and stop-n-frisking really was getting a shiatload of guns and dirtballs off the streets. I doubt there'll be any race-riotiing - Sonny Carson is dead, Al Sharpton fancies himself an elder statesman now, and Charles Barron has beclowned himself too many times.

The middle class will continue moving out of the city - only they'll leave the area altogether because the NYC suburbs aren't affordable either.

The state legislature isn't going to let DeBlaso have that big tax hike on rich folks, not without at the very least some horsetrading to give suburbanites a break from the MTA payroll tax.

Now that there's official one-party rule again in the city, expect corruption to blossom. Six Democratic (there aren't any other kind) members of the City Council will be hauled off on corruption charges and be replaced by six other Democrats.
 
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