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(io9)   Eight things Marvel got wrong about Thor and Norse mythology   (io9.com) divider line 28
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2013-11-05 11:55:06 PM  
9 votes:
Another fun advertisement masquerading as an article whose sole purpose is to generate hype for a movie coming out in 3 days.
2013-11-06 02:18:51 AM  
4 votes:
I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.
2013-11-06 12:28:18 AM  
4 votes:
In fairness, I think that maybe Gaiman had a better handle the Norse, and Gods in general, when he rolled out American Gods. THAT Odin was a bit more in keeping with the whole the spirit of the mythology...

DC tends to do better with gods in general with their adult imprints--their regular continuity, tends to be pap, but that's why they split them up. Marvel's "gods" tend to be barely even PG versions, but dang do they do the hitty stuff well...
2013-11-06 12:23:39 AM  
4 votes:
Just eight?

bdub77: Another fun advertisement masquerading as an article whose sole purpose is to generate hype for a movie coming out in 3 days.


Also, this.
2013-11-06 03:39:19 AM  
3 votes:
Write article about how Marvel got Norse mythology wrong

Spells Ragnarök ragnorak.
2013-11-06 02:02:36 PM  
2 votes:

robohobo: [simplywallpaper.net image 850x486]


If they can make Jesus white, we can make Heimdall black.
2013-11-06 08:50:21 AM  
2 votes:

mhd: THEY SHOULD HAVE PICKED ANOTHER BRITISH ACTOR.

/ASGARDIANS, DIVE!


i41.tinypic.com
2013-11-06 02:33:08 AM  
2 votes:

Ishkur: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.
I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Really, it is due to the success of Thor that Marvel is looking at all it's properties and going "Y'know, this could all work. Nothing is farfetched anymore." Hence why they're going for it all with Guardians of the Galaxy.

And which gave us this hilarious tweet:
[cdn.uproxx.com image 563x380]


No matter what DC does with Wonder Woman, the coonts at Jezebel will have a problem with it.
2013-11-06 02:14:04 AM  
2 votes:

Sgt Otter: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x456]

Thor never had his hammer stolen by a noble alien horse-monster.


I'll see your Beta Ray Bill and raise you Throg.

static.comicvine.com
2013-11-06 01:48:28 AM  
2 votes:
It's sort of a 'no shiat Sherlock' article.  But useful if you're not up on Norse mythology.
2013-11-06 01:33:28 AM  
2 votes:
TFA was wrong about Marvel creating Thor's three buddies. At least one of them is just Falstaff, who was created by Shakespeare.
2013-11-06 01:20:15 AM  
2 votes:
When the "Hercules" TV show was on, a friend of mine got pissed at something and said "Nuh uh, that's not the way it really happened."  I still give him shiat for that 15 years later.

How can you make something up about something that's made up and be incorrect?
2013-11-07 01:19:54 PM  
1 votes:
Aquapope

Which one of those is the correct one, and which ones are made up?

I'll have a go.

At one time a guy made up a story about a guy named Odin.

Obviously false. "Odin" is linguistically descended from the Proto-Germanic "Wodanaz" or something similar, so no, no one made up a story about a guy named Odin as a basis for what would later become a religion.

Then later a different guy added a missing eye and a big tree.

Obviously false. The Proto-Indo-European motif of the worldtree predates anyone saying "Odin" by some thousands of years. Similarly, the parallels between the Germanic Wodanaz figure and the Celtic Lugus demonstrate either extensive contact/borrowing or pre-separation tradition...in either case, it existed before "Odin" was a thing.

Later another guy made Odin into a god.

Obviously false. Wodanaz was a divine figure before "Odin" was a thing.

And later another guy made him the Father of gods, and then later another guy adder a son named Thor.

Iffy. Assuming you mean "people" by "guy," it's true that the Wodanaz figure wasn't originally "father of the gods," but assumed such stature during the Völkerwanderung period, religiously tied to the concept of said deity sharing his knowledge of runes with man. Prior to this, the "father of the gods" was (literally, rather than the later figuratively) Tiwaz, reflections of which one sees in Tyr, Tiw, Zeus, Dyeus Pater, Dyaus Pitar, etc.

And later another guy had Thor work with a guy named Stark.

Yeah, that's obviously made up.
2013-11-06 05:41:54 PM  
1 votes:
There is one thing Marvel (or at least Jaimie Alexander) got RIGHT about Thor.  The premiere attire:

i.dailymail.co.uk
2013-11-06 03:12:01 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, lawd.

Iron Man and some dwarves made a shield of uru for Captain America. I stand corrected.
2013-11-06 03:06:46 PM  
1 votes:

Facetious_Speciest: If you look up the shield on the same wiki, it says it's vibranium/adamantium.

farking Marvel (non) continuity.


Actually if you read further down for the entry on his shield, just before the "Surviving into the future" that wiki says that Stark rebuilt the shield out of Uru at some point.
2013-11-06 12:45:43 PM  
1 votes:

Facetious_Speciest: Space Station Wagon

Also the biggest one the article missed is "Mjolnir" the name of the hammer is totally made up.

Do you mean "made up" in the sense that the source material was just made up? Because it's totes in there.

"En hamarrinn Mjöllnir kom í mitt höfuð Hrungni ok lamði hausinn í smán mola, ok fell hann fram yfir Þór, svá at fótr hans lá of háls Þór." - Skáldskaparmál


I stand corrected.
I could have sworn I watched a documentary with Stan Lee and him stating that he made up the name of the hammer. (wouldn't be the first time he took undue credit).
2013-11-06 10:19:09 AM  
1 votes:
The true tragedy about garbled Norse myths is that tri-ace never made a Valkyrie Profile 3 (for the PS3).
2013-11-06 07:21:19 AM  
1 votes:

Aquapope: When the "Hercules" TV show was on, a friend of mine got pissed at something and said "Nuh uh, that's not the way it really happened."  I still give him shiat for that 15 years later.

How can you make something up about something that's made up and be incorrect?


Vampires don't sparkle.
2013-11-06 05:18:52 AM  
1 votes:

Smoking GNU: MaudlinMutantMollusk: A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?

Precisely what i was thinking.


A lot of you seem to be under the misapprehension that the original stories are fake. You are of course all wrong, as you will discover when the wolf shakes free of its chains and swallows the sun.
2013-11-06 05:04:57 AM  
1 votes:
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>>for jezebel

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>>for loki.
2013-11-06 04:09:56 AM  
1 votes:
Olaf frowns on your silly myths, they got it all wrong anyway.

media.sfx.co.uk

/Yes I know, already posted up thread.
//If you don't like it, Derrick says you can fark off!
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2013-11-06 02:59:56 AM  
1 votes:

alice_600: simplicimus: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.

Thor and Loki are walking XXX porn material.


Plus Sif, if you include that dress she wore in the earlier thread.
2013-11-06 02:56:16 AM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.


Thor and Loki are walking XXX porn material.
2013-11-06 01:51:25 AM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

Thor never had his hammer stolen by a noble alien horse-monster.
2013-11-06 01:49:17 AM  
1 votes:
1) www.propbay.com
2013-11-06 01:30:00 AM  
1 votes:
1) io9
2) Headline sounds like one of those "One weird trick" ads.

:Nope.

/also, it's a farking comic book-slash-movie, not a goddamned history lesson about some frightened goat-herders' imaginings from x-thousand years ago
2013-11-06 01:02:44 AM  
1 votes:
A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?
 
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