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(io9)   Eight things Marvel got wrong about Thor and Norse mythology   (io9.com) divider line 166
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2013-11-05 11:55:06 PM
Another fun advertisement masquerading as an article whose sole purpose is to generate hype for a movie coming out in 3 days.
 
2013-11-06 12:10:21 AM
You mean Dark Elves didn't have plasma cannons?
 
2013-11-06 12:23:39 AM
Just eight?

bdub77: Another fun advertisement masquerading as an article whose sole purpose is to generate hype for a movie coming out in 3 days.


Also, this.
 
2013-11-06 12:28:18 AM
In fairness, I think that maybe Gaiman had a better handle the Norse, and Gods in general, when he rolled out American Gods. THAT Odin was a bit more in keeping with the whole the spirit of the mythology...

DC tends to do better with gods in general with their adult imprints--their regular continuity, tends to be pap, but that's why they split them up. Marvel's "gods" tend to be barely even PG versions, but dang do they do the hitty stuff well...
 
2013-11-06 01:02:44 AM
A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?
 
2013-11-06 01:20:15 AM
When the "Hercules" TV show was on, a friend of mine got pissed at something and said "Nuh uh, that's not the way it really happened."  I still give him shiat for that 15 years later.

How can you make something up about something that's made up and be incorrect?
 
2013-11-06 01:20:20 AM
saxon woten is best woten

I'll be under my oak
 
2013-11-06 01:30:00 AM
1) io9
2) Headline sounds like one of those "One weird trick" ads.

:Nope.

/also, it's a farking comic book-slash-movie, not a goddamned history lesson about some frightened goat-herders' imaginings from x-thousand years ago
 
2013-11-06 01:31:05 AM
I, for one, refuse to see the movie if it isn't historically correct.
 
2013-11-06 01:33:28 AM
TFA was wrong about Marvel creating Thor's three buddies. At least one of them is just Falstaff, who was created by Shakespeare.
 
2013-11-06 01:35:51 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?


Actually they seemed to be critiquing the comic versions, not the movies. Though I agree addressing inaccuracies of Norse mythology in the films would be silly since the films tend to make a hash of their primary source material themselves. It would be dividing by zero.
 
2013-11-06 01:40:26 AM
Do they plan to explain how he can catch a massive hammer travelling at ridiculous speeds without having to absorb the impact? Because I'm not seeing that travesty unless they do.

/it's a farking movie
 
2013-11-06 01:41:42 AM
Marvel's Asgard (featured in the comic book  Journey Into Mystery) was never meant to be a line-by-line retelling of Norse mythology. It's a superhero/high fantasy comic book.

And for the record, Marvel's Thor did have red hair and a beard for a while. He did have a relationship with Sif.

And the language thing was explained once during the history of the character that I can remember: Asgardian gods, being magical beings, appear to be speaking whatever language the mortal listened considers their own native tongue, but in a formal, old-fashioned dialect. Thus people who speak English hear the Shakespearan language, but people who are native Spanish-speakers are hearing Thor in proper Spanish, Russians hear proper Russian, Scandinavians hear something like their ancestors did when they told the tales of Thor and his ilk. But all along, the Asgardians are speaking Asgardian... Not English, Spanish, etc. It's just that Asgardian is a magical language spoken by beings of great power.

The same principal applies to Mephisto, Satan (not the same guy as Mephisto in Marvel lore), and most other demons, Celestials, and other higher beings. They speak their own language, but mortals hear  the language that is most familiar to them.
 
2013-11-06 01:47:15 AM
Jeez, what does io9 think about Long Dark Teatime of the Soul?
 
2013-11-06 01:48:28 AM
It's sort of a 'no shiat Sherlock' article.  But useful if you're not up on Norse mythology.
 
2013-11-06 01:49:17 AM
1) www.propbay.com
 
2013-11-06 01:51:25 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Thor never had his hammer stolen by a noble alien horse-monster.
 
2013-11-06 01:52:36 AM
So someone got something wrong on something fake?
Isn't this like saying what Once Upon A Time got wrong for Disney characters?
 
2013-11-06 02:03:50 AM

Aquapope: When the "Hercules" TV show was on, a friend of mine got pissed at something and said "Nuh uh, that's not the way it really happened."  I still give him shiat for that 15 years later.

How can you make something up about something that's made up and be incorrect?


The same way you can fark up a play by Shakespeare, or a story by Charles Dickens.

The moment you go from, I have a good play, or a good story, to, I have a good play by Shakespeare or a good story by Charles Dickens, certain expectations follows.

---

Though, they're doing Marvels Thor aren't they? So shouldn't this blatant ad be about how Marvel got stuff wrong? For all I know, the movie is close to Marvels Thor.
 
2013-11-06 02:04:07 AM
I will say, if they include the time Thor lost his hammer, and had to dress up as a bride to win it back, while Loki came dressed as a bridesmaid, I would see that movie.
 
2013-11-06 02:05:59 AM

Sgt Otter: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x456]

Thor never had his hammer stolen by a noble alien horse-monster.


I think someone else linked to that guy's pic a while back.  And it reminds me of Sark from Galaxy Quest.
 
2013-11-06 02:14:04 AM

Sgt Otter: [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x456]

Thor never had his hammer stolen by a noble alien horse-monster.


I'll see your Beta Ray Bill and raise you Throg.

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-11-06 02:18:51 AM
I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.
 
2013-11-06 02:20:58 AM
huh?

sad it ended.
 
2013-11-06 02:22:35 AM
and i failed at pictures =)

www.blastr.com
 
2013-11-06 02:23:35 AM

Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.


Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.
 
2013-11-06 02:25:22 AM

Snapper Carr: I'll see your Beta Ray Bill and raise you Throg.


Isn't that just Glen from Chrono Trigger?
 
2013-11-06 02:26:34 AM
simplywallpaper.net
 
2013-11-06 02:28:39 AM

Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.
I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.


Really, it is due to the success of Thor that Marvel is looking at all it's properties and going "Y'know, this could all work. Nothing is farfetched anymore." Hence why they're going for it all with Guardians of the Galaxy.

And which gave us this hilarious tweet:
cdn.uproxx.com
 
2013-11-06 02:33:08 AM

Ishkur: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.
I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Really, it is due to the success of Thor that Marvel is looking at all it's properties and going "Y'know, this could all work. Nothing is farfetched anymore." Hence why they're going for it all with Guardians of the Galaxy.

And which gave us this hilarious tweet:
[cdn.uproxx.com image 563x380]


No matter what DC does with Wonder Woman, the coonts at Jezebel will have a problem with it.
 
2013-11-06 02:36:46 AM

miss diminutive: Do they plan to explain how he can catch a massive hammer travelling at ridiculous speeds without having to absorb the impact? Because I'm not seeing that travesty unless they do.

/it's a farking movie


And if the hammer is so heavy why didn't it fall through the floor when he dropped it on the helicarrier in The Avengers?
 
2013-11-06 02:36:58 AM

Aquapope: When the "Hercules" TV show was on, a friend of mine got pissed at something and said "Nuh uh, that's not the way it really happened."  I still give him shiat for that 15 years later.

How can you make something up about something that's made up and be incorrect?


i114.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-06 02:40:47 AM

fusillade762: miss diminutive: Do they plan to explain how he can catch a massive hammer travelling at ridiculous speeds without having to absorb the impact? Because I'm not seeing that travesty unless they do.

/it's a farking movie

And if the hammer is so heavy why didn't it fall through the floor when he dropped it on the helicarrier in The Avengers?


It isn't heavy. It's magic, designed to only be picked up a person the hammer considers worthy. It's been picked up by Cap, Superman, and Wonder Woman in the past.
 
2013-11-06 02:40:52 AM
io9, you're not Cracked. Stop trying.
 
2013-11-06 02:42:12 AM
scandalous. marvel has no future in accredited scholarly journals
 
2013-11-06 02:50:43 AM

fusillade762: miss diminutive: Do they plan to explain how he can catch a massive hammer travelling at ridiculous speeds without having to absorb the impact? Because I'm not seeing that travesty unless they do.

/it's a farking movie

And if the hammer is so heavy why didn't it fall through the floor when he dropped it on the helicarrier in The Avengers?


It's not heavy, it actually never, ever moves. The magic of the hammer is that when a righteous person holds it, the universe moves around the hammer; not the other way around. If you're not righteous, you don't have the power to move the entire universe as you see fit.
 
2013-11-06 02:56:16 AM

simplicimus: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.


Thor and Loki are walking XXX porn material.
 
2013-11-06 02:58:51 AM

alice_600: simplicimus: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.

Thor and Loki are walking XXX porn material.


majorspoilers.com
 
2013-11-06 02:59:56 AM

alice_600: simplicimus: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.

I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Huddleston is the biggest draw in Asgard. There'll be a lot of him in Thor 2.

Thor and Loki are walking XXX porn material.


Plus Sif, if you include that dress she wore in the earlier thread.
 
2013-11-06 03:03:14 AM

robohobo: Ishkur: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.
I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Really, it is due to the success of Thor that Marvel is looking at all it's properties and going "Y'know, this could all work. Nothing is farfetched anymore." Hence why they're going for it all with Guardians of the Galaxy.

And which gave us this hilarious tweet:
[cdn.uproxx.com image 563x380]

No matter what DC does with Wonder Woman, the coonts at Jezebel will have a problem with it.


And not a single f*ck will be given.

/I swear I once saw two sidebar articles one after the other about Keira Knightley being too skinny and Kate Upton being fat
 
2013-11-06 03:06:51 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?


As someone who is very into Norse mythology, I was very "blaaaaggghwahgarbl fark you" about Thor when it first came out. Then I realized it was fake stories based on fake stories and chilled out.

But the older fake stories are still way cooler than anything marvel has come up with.
 
mhd
2013-11-06 03:11:50 AM
You mean this never happened?
i.imgur.com

/Your blog sucks.
 
2013-11-06 03:27:48 AM
The didn't "get it wrong" you jackasses, they wrote an unrelated story based on the premise that Norse mythology was a garbled historical account of the visitation of some ancient aliens.

This is like someone reading Paradise Lost and complaining that there are details and contradictions in it not compatible with the books of Genesis.  Albeit with fewer declamations and more awesome drawings of armored fisticuffs.
 
2013-11-06 03:28:33 AM

Ishkur: Doc Batarang: I always thought Thor was utterly unfilmable. All the Kirby costumes, the Shakespeare lingo, most of the villains, the doofy secret identity, the boring love interests and the rainbow bridge would all make it highly improbable that any of it would translate enough for the wider audience to care.
I think we should all give Thor a round of applause, it actually all works.

Really, it is due to the success of Thor that Marvel is looking at all it's properties and going "Y'know, this could all work. Nothing is farfetched anymore." Hence why they're going for it all with Guardians of the Galaxy.

And which gave us this hilarious tweet:


I agree with somebody-or-other's analysis from a few years ago when they said that seeing as how nobody really gives a shiat about the guardians of the galaxy, geek or otherwise, it's the best thing that they could do because nobody has any expectations one way or another.

I (also) like space comics quite a bit, but I've never read any of it. I'll be getting into it at the same time everybody else is and I think that's fun.

Wonder Woman is weird though. As a pop culture figure, she's as good as the Easter Bunny or Sherlock Holmes. As an actual comic, it sucks out loud. She's better as one of the mains in the JLA and that's all.
 
2013-11-06 03:39:19 AM
Write article about how Marvel got Norse mythology wrong

Spells Ragnarök ragnorak.
 
2013-11-06 03:59:45 AM
Aww and they were trying SO hard to keep true to the original legends and myths too. They must be gutted.
 
2013-11-06 04:03:49 AM

derpy: Jeez, what does io9 think about Long Dark Teatime of the Soul?


Thor's attempt at a good, righteously angry stomping foiled by the wafting scent of chamomile...
 
2013-11-06 04:09:56 AM
Olaf frowns on your silly myths, they got it all wrong anyway.

media.sfx.co.uk

/Yes I know, already posted up thread.
//If you don't like it, Derrick says you can fark off!
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-11-06 04:16:46 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A movie, made from a comic book... and they got some mythical, imaginary thing wrong?

/WTF is wrong with you people?


Precisely what i was thinking.
 
2013-11-06 04:26:11 AM
These didn't happen either?

img.myconfinedspace.com

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
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