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(AZ Family)   If you're a female undercover cop investigating an ecstasy dealer, make sure you don't end up having sex with him for some reason and confessing everything in a post-coital moment of vulnerability   (azfamily.com ) divider line
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2013-11-05 03:06:51 PM  
 
2013-11-05 03:11:11 PM  

hardinparamedic: See, this, this right here is why you don't bar the smart people from being cops.


Ho. Lee. shiate.  Nice to see non-anecdotal evidence regarding my 'most cops are dumbasses' theory.
 
2013-11-05 03:18:25 PM  

hardinparamedic: See, this, this right here is why you don't bar the smart people from being cops.


I... what.
 
2013-11-05 03:27:48 PM  
Something seems incomplete about this report.

kpho.images.worldnow.com
 
2013-11-05 03:31:17 PM  

hardinparamedic: See, this, this right here is why you don't bar the smart people from being cops.


This would appear to reflect the goals of those who are hiring the cops. I know of at least one police force that requires a good IQ score and a college degree to qualify for hire as a cop. I'm not sure, but it may also be a requirement for that same state's Highway Patrol. I'm for it. (Yes, that's anecdotal, but first hand.)
 
2013-11-05 03:33:25 PM  

Sybarite: Something seems incomplete about this report.

[kpho.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]


Given enough X, I might let her handle my gun, if you know what I mean AITYD. Not that my gun would be able to shoot anything, but still...
 
2013-11-05 03:39:01 PM  

img.fark.net

Was that wrong?  Should I not have done that?

 
2013-11-05 03:56:51 PM  
So she's single now?
 
2013-11-05 03:58:23 PM  
Man, what a lucky kid. Where were the cops like this when I was in jail?
 
2013-11-05 03:59:58 PM  
You sure are a judgmental bunch.

Maybe she was stuck in a Groundhog Day Loop and this was how she got out.

Did you ever think of that? No. Well, now you feel dumb, don't you?
 
2013-11-05 04:00:38 PM  
FREEEEEZE!!

southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2013-11-05 04:01:33 PM  
Did she bang anyone when she went to Switzerland?
 
2013-11-05 04:03:06 PM  
So her investigation was undercover and under the covers.
 
2013-11-05 04:03:08 PM  
I think is is pretty definitive proof that this world is a movie plot and the suspect is the protagonist, because seducing an undercover cop and having them switch sides or reveal the whole scheme only happens in movies.
 
2013-11-05 04:05:59 PM  

devilEther: So her investigation was undercover and under the covers.


She went full undercover. You never go full undercover
 
2013-11-05 04:08:59 PM  
...a woman high on E-bombs confessing her plot after balls deep sex...

/huh that's weird
 
2013-11-05 04:09:39 PM  
I guess her cover got blown
 
2013-11-05 04:09:55 PM  
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2013-11-05 04:09:59 PM  
giggity. I bet he was ass farking her. Niiiice.
 
2013-11-05 04:10:01 PM  

hardinparamedic: See, this, this right here is why you don't bar the smart people from being cops.



I think there is a decent logic to that.  People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQ's end up in a couple of places... running their own business (or at least, department), or in incredibly menial work where they don't have to deal with other people.
 
2013-11-05 04:12:12 PM  

MycroftHolmes: I guess her cover got blown


Better to say she blew her cover.
 
2013-11-05 04:12:23 PM  

LewDux: devilEther: So her investigation was undercover and under the covers.

She went full undercover. You never go full undercover


Apparently you can go full undercover in England,  you can also father a few children and ditch them along with their unknowing mommas.
 
2013-11-05 04:12:26 PM  
Hah, that happened in Renton, Washington too. The guy with the YouTube videos spilled the beans.
 
2013-11-05 04:12:26 PM  
austinpowers.jpg

That's a man baby!

DO NOT WANT
 
2013-11-05 04:14:39 PM  
The worst part of this, the part that should get her thrown in jail, is giving up her fellow officers identities. When she did that, throw the book at her.
 
2013-11-05 04:14:46 PM  

Dirtybird971: austinpowers.jpg

That's a man baby!

DO NOT WANT



Not just any man....

www.tapology.com

...that's The Russian Bear himself, Oleg Taktarov.
 
2013-11-05 04:15:14 PM  

Russ1642: MycroftHolmes: I guess her cover got blown

Better to say she blew her cover.


dammit, that would have been better.
 
2013-11-05 04:15:36 PM  
Sounds like alternate lyrics to "Bad to the Bone":

I'll make an old woman blush
And make an undercover cop squeal
 
2013-11-05 04:20:55 PM  
TheDirtyNacho: I think there is a decent logic to that. People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQs don't have a problem following orders ... they have a problem following stupid orders ... from stupid people.
 
2013-11-05 04:21:24 PM  
x-dealer heard singing...
I'm too sexy for my narc, too sexy for my narc,
so sexy I end up on Fark.
 
2013-11-05 04:22:03 PM  

cgraves67: I think is is pretty definitive proof that this world is a movie plot and the suspect is the protagonist, because seducing an undercover cop and having them switch sides or reveal the whole scheme only happens in movies.


If this hadn't made the news nobody would ever believe him. "I'm telling you dude, I got her so wet she confessed to being an undercover cop and helped me avoid goimg to jail."
 
2013-11-05 04:24:42 PM  
wow, my dick usually gets me into trouble, not get me out of it

way to go, dope dealer!

www.blacksit.com
 
2013-11-05 04:27:19 PM  

lordargent: TheDirtyNacho: I think there is a decent logic to that. People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQs don't have a problem following orders ... they have a problem following stupid orders ... from stupid people.


bearsrepeating.jpg
 
2013-11-05 04:27:44 PM  
Wasn't this a movie starring Jennifer Lopez?
 
2013-11-05 04:28:52 PM  

lordargent: TheDirtyNacho: I think there is a decent logic to that. People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQs don't have a problem following orders ... they have a problem following stupid orders ... from stupid people.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

many times smart people are told to do something and we know it is wrong/not gonna work. when we try to explain it we get treated as we are the idiots. especially true if we are told to do it a ccertain way that is overly complicated. We then get blamed when it doesnt work even tho we followed directions.

/only winning move is not to play
 
2013-11-05 04:32:38 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: hardinparamedic: See, this, this right here is why you don't bar the smart people from being cops.


I think there is a decent logic to that.  People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQ's end up in a couple of places... running their own business (or at least, department), or in incredibly menial work where they don't have to deal with other people.


There's another logic to it.

Mr. Jordan was a 49-year old, entry-level applicant. The City of New London was not interested in short-timers. Jordan would have been over 50 after the academy and field training. NLPD has mandatory retirement at 65. He would have had a maximum career of less than 15 years. Cities have interest in hiring certified, experienced police officers in that age bracket due to the knowledge they bring with them. Therefore, they could have faced a discrimination suit had they rejected Jordan based on his age but had a pattern of routinely hiring other people of a similar age.

New London used a novel and successful legal argument, but it was a poor common sense argument that has opened them up to ridicule. This is the same city that brought us Kelo. They have a track record of odious but ultimately sucessful legal arguments.
 
2013-11-05 04:37:47 PM  

DORMAMU: lordargent: TheDirtyNacho: I think there is a decent logic to that. People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQs don't have a problem following orders ... they have a problem following stupid orders ... from stupid people.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

many times smart people are told to do something and we know it is wrong/not gonna work. when we try to explain it we get treated as we are the idiots. especially true if we are told to do it a ccertain way that is overly complicated. We then get blamed when it doesnt work even tho we followed directions.

/only winning move is not to play


There are two organizational models at work here.  The first, used by small , agile companies or groups, are built around empowering independent high-performing individuals.  Think special forces or a well run startup.  These organizations are built around the idea of getting the most out of each individual without worrying about scalability.

The second type of organization is built around the concept of minimizing the variance in operations so that the minimum performing individual can still be effective.  Think a large teleco or the regular army.  Individual problem solving is discouraged as it can actually be more disruptive to the system.

Many systems which have to deal consistently with a large amount of variance (like a city police force or a school system) will design towards the least amount of variance in operations, prefering consistency and scalability over individual effectiveness.  It seems wasteful and inefficient, but really does make sense under certain metjods of evaluation.
 
2013-11-05 04:42:00 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Wasn't this a movie starring Jennifer Lopez?


NO.

It was an Elmore Leonard novel. That movie never happened. EVER.
 
2013-11-05 04:46:59 PM  
Undercover cop.  UNDERCOVER Cop... heh.
 
2013-11-05 04:48:59 PM  
The inconvenience to me caused by stupid cops is nothing compared to the times I got to go home and sleep in my own bed rather than a holding cell because the cops were either too dumb to figure out just what I had done or were gullible enough to swallow my BS story. I like things the way they are.
 
2013-11-05 04:51:37 PM  
She's just doing the same her male counterparts do when busting those "massage" parlors.
 
2013-11-05 04:54:08 PM  
All I hear is Barry White singing: Exctasy, when you lay down next to me....
 
2013-11-05 04:55:29 PM  
www.devildead.com
 
2013-11-05 04:55:33 PM  
I used to be social acquaintances with a shockingly-beautiful young woman who went through the police academy.

"You liar", you're thinking.  No, really. She stopped traffic with her beauty.  My first thought was yours, though--why did someone so gorgeous want to be a cop?  They're almost always average at best, all the way down to bulldog.

I learned more and more about her through friends--bastard child at home, still lived with parents, loved to party, and really enjoyed being "one of the guys".  All the signs were there for immaturity issues.

Fresh out of the academy, while looking for a full-time job, she took a part-time testing job.  A local department cycled through fresh meat to act as undercovers to bust up drug rings and under-aged drinking in the bars.  If the part-timer was good, they had a leg up on a full time regular cop job.

She took the leg up a little too seriously and slept with a dirt-bag confidential informant like it was a deep-cover CIA movie.

She never got any full time cop job.  Her reputation was destroyed and common sense was questioned. No department will touch her.
 
2013-11-05 04:56:47 PM  

MycroftHolmes: DORMAMU: lordargent: TheDirtyNacho: I think there is a decent logic to that. People with high IQ make lousy cops/military/job where you have to follow orders and procedure.

People with high IQs don't have a problem following orders ... they have a problem following stupid orders ... from stupid people.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

many times smart people are told to do something and we know it is wrong/not gonna work. when we try to explain it we get treated as we are the idiots. especially true if we are told to do it a ccertain way that is overly complicated. We then get blamed when it doesnt work even tho we followed directions.

/only winning move is not to play

There are two organizational models at work here.  The first, used by small , agile companies or groups, are built around empowering independent high-performing individuals.  Think special forces or a well run startup.  These organizations are built around the idea of getting the most out of each individual without worrying about scalability.

The second type of organization is built around the concept of minimizing the variance in operations so that the minimum performing individual can still be effective.  Think a large teleco or the regular army.  Individual problem solving is discouraged as it can actually be more disruptive to the system.

Many systems which have to deal consistently with a large amount of variance (like a city police force or a school system) will design towards the least amount of variance in operations, prefering consistency and scalability over individual effectiveness.  It seems wasteful and inefficient, but really does make sense under certain metjods of evaluation.


Even when you already see the job is going to have to be redone and you are wasting time doing it the improper way/repeating the same work multiple times instead of all at once?

There is scalability, then there is wasteful replication.

/what are TPS reports used for?
 
2013-11-05 04:58:50 PM  
.. oh, and the whole  married thing ...
 
2013-11-05 05:00:09 PM  
eddiemurphy.jpg

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
 
2013-11-05 05:03:18 PM  

DORMAMU: Even when you already see the job is going to have to be redone and you are wasting time doing it the improper way/repeating the same work multiple times instead of all at once?

There is scalability, then there is wasteful replication.

/what are TPS reports used for?


There are clearly times when bureaucracy exceeds the value of scalability.  The issue is that most people do not know how to think in terms of a system over an individual, and point to ANY instance of the individual deferring to the system as sign of stupidity or laziness without understanding the value of rigid systems.  I would argue that most school systems, often criticized as brainless due to zero tolerance or as mindless bueacracies are actually well designed systems operating in adverse and untenable conditions.
 
2013-11-05 05:04:30 PM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: [img.fark.net image 640x360]Was that wrong?  Should I not have done that?


Her father-in-law was a sheriff who died after getting shiat-faced drunk and driving his truck off a cliff. And they're considered the good cops in AZ.
 
2013-11-05 05:04:38 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: People with high IQ's end up .... in incredibly menial work where they don't have to deal with other people.


Is that what you and the other Wal-Mart employees told yourselves after a long shift in the stockroom?
 
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