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(Fox News)   Because they worked out so well last time, the Obama administration awards $7 million more in government contracts to the company who designed the Obamacare website   (foxnews.com) divider line 54
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2013-11-05 03:50:56 PM  
Well they're the ones who know how it works (and what issues they left unfinished).

Guess we could spend $7 million getting some other company up to speed.
 
2013-11-05 03:54:15 PM  
If we stopped giving money to people who wasted it there wouldn't be a South anymore.


Wait... I think I just changed my own mind.
 
2013-11-05 03:56:00 PM  
If they picked some other company, everyone would still be slamming them for having to spend money to rebuild the site.

/not defending the original farkup in any way
//but at this point I'm not really sure what they could do to get people off their case
 
2013-11-05 03:58:53 PM  
"But I ask you, would you rather have butter or Obamacare?"

-Hermann Göring
 
2013-11-05 04:09:16 PM  

Chinchillazilla: If they picked some other company, everyone would still be slamming them for having to spend money to rebuild the site.

/not defending the original farkup in any way
//but at this point I'm not really sure what they could do to get people off their case


Well if Obama would stop being black that would be great, yeah....
 
2013-11-05 04:13:57 PM  

Chinchillazilla: If they picked some other company, everyone would still be slamming them for having to spend money to rebuild the site.

/not defending the original farkup in any way
//but at this point I'm not really sure what they could do to get people off their case


At some point you have to stop pissing down the well, you are never going to fill it up.
 
2013-11-05 04:28:36 PM  
7 million? Why would it possibly cost that much?
 
2013-11-05 04:29:48 PM  
Just one more upgrade. We just need one more upgrade...
 
2013-11-05 04:31:04 PM  

jchic: Chinchillazilla: If they picked some other company, everyone would still be slamming them for having to spend money to rebuild the site.

/not defending the original farkup in any way
//but at this point I'm not really sure what they could do to get people off their case

Well if Obama would stop being black that would be great, yeah....


Oh, that old canard.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-11-05 04:32:34 PM  

Mugato: 7 million? Why would it possibly cost that much?


Because that is how much they asked for.  This is how no bids work.
 
2013-11-05 04:43:21 PM  
Even I have to admit that there is a point, even if its motivation isn't pure.

The company did a shiat job. They should be cut off at the tit.
 
2013-11-05 04:47:38 PM  
They just need the platinum upgrade, then Intellilink will work.
 
2013-11-05 05:19:10 PM  

Mugato: 7 million? Why would it possibly cost that much?


um... just a guess, but maybe it's because it's a massive farking site that's massively farked?
 
2013-11-05 05:36:14 PM  
They're not the government, so their work is perfect.
 
2013-11-05 05:36:58 PM  
At this point, with a legal time limit in place and various deadlines growing ever closer, its hard to see any other solution.

Then again, this whole healthcare.gov experience has been a massive trainwreck, so I find it hard to cheer more money being thrown at the problem.
 
2013-11-05 05:43:17 PM  
If that's all it takes to fix the website then it's a damned bargain.

IF the website gets fixed, that is. I expect at least another month of website downtime jokes on TV.
 
2013-11-05 05:45:00 PM  
I'd bet they didn't use Monster Cables.
 
2013-11-05 05:46:06 PM  

I_C_Weener: Mugato: 7 million? Why would it possibly cost that much?

Because that is how much they asked for.  This is how no bids work.




media.treehugger.com

Approves.

 
2013-11-05 05:52:35 PM  

I_C_Weener: This is how no bids work.


And they only asked for 7mil?
 
2013-11-05 05:52:45 PM  
At least it's not in the form of a bonus.
 
2013-11-05 05:53:21 PM  

Mugato: 7 million? Why would it possibly cost that much?


Isnt this simply 7 million in other government contracts to a company which regularly works on Government contracts? Frankly a total bullshiat non-story, the only story being the right trying to destroy a business for daring to do business with the government bogeyman. Which is amazing coming from the farking right wing really when you think about it. Massive hypocrisy.
 
2013-11-05 05:53:38 PM  

super_grass: I_C_Weener: This is how no bids work.

And they only asked for 7mil?


They have a track record of not doing so well with numbers. and letters.....mostly code stuff.
 
2013-11-05 05:54:30 PM  
"The contracts were for computer and software development at the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Commerce, and the Environmental Protection Agency.
One contract, for instance, was signed Oct. 19 by Department of Commerce officials that gives CGI Federal $266,164 to provide "IT and Telecom Systems Development" for the Patent Office."
 
2013-11-05 05:56:06 PM  
Fox News
something something
 
2013-11-05 05:57:07 PM  
This is from the guys who's website got hacked just today right?

Are the going to fire their web people?
 
2013-11-05 05:58:41 PM  

gaspode: Isnt this simply 7 million in other government contracts to a company which regularly works on Government contracts? Frankly a total bullshiat non-story, the only story being the right trying to destroy a business for daring to do business with the government bogeyman. Which is amazing coming from the farking right wing really when you think about it. Massive hypocrisy.


I think (not submitter) that the point is when someone faults so completely that there is no question it is a failure you shouldn't reward them with more work.

Now if we the people could learn that lesson that would be awesome.
 
2013-11-05 06:00:27 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: gaspode: Isnt this simply 7 million in other government contracts to a company which regularly works on Government contracts? Frankly a total bullshiat non-story, the only story being the right trying to destroy a business for daring to do business with the government bogeyman. Which is amazing coming from the farking right wing really when you think about it. Massive hypocrisy.

I think (not submitter) that the point is when someone faults so completely that there is no question it is a failure you shouldn't reward them with more work.

Now if we the people could learn that lesson that would be awesome.


So, you're saying that we as a country should kick all the teabaggers out of office?
 
2013-11-05 06:02:37 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: gaspode: Isnt this simply 7 million in other government contracts to a company which regularly works on Government contracts? Frankly a total bullshiat non-story, the only story being the right trying to destroy a business for daring to do business with the government bogeyman. Which is amazing coming from the farking right wing really when you think about it. Massive hypocrisy.

I think (not submitter) that the point is when someone faults so completely that there is no question it is a failure you shouldn't reward them with more work.

Now if we the people could learn that lesson that would be awesome.


Can anyone here say with any confidence that this company were at fault for a sufficiently bad farkup that they should never be allowed to work on government contracts again, effectively destroying their business?

Is that really justified? Has their work been compared with other companies working on less controversial projects?

No.. the fact is this poutrage is 100% because this is Obamacare and the right wants a scandal and people to hate. They farking chased down the stock photo girl from the website. Get it?
 
2013-11-05 06:04:05 PM  
As much as I'm sure people would love this not to be the case, hiring and fireing on a whim and replacing people easily is something that generally only works with your easily replaceable people who make minimum wage.  You don't fire your vendor in the middle of a roll out because frankly the process of sending the whole thing out for bid again is a nightmare in itself.

Now you may try and sue later, but anyone who has worked on a large project knows that at a certain point you're going to be dealing with the devil you know and not bringing on a new person to fleece you.
 
2013-11-05 06:04:44 PM  

Chinchillazilla: If they picked some other company, everyone would still be slamming them for having to spend money to rebuild the site.

/not defending the original farkup in any way
//but at this point I'm not really sure what they could do to get people off their case


Considering that people would've been on their case if the site had worked perfectly, it's pretty pointless to speculate.
 
2013-11-05 06:11:13 PM  
Contract extension gate!!! Impeach!!!
 
2013-11-05 06:16:49 PM  

tbhouston: Contract extension gate!!! Impeach!!!


Damn right, this will be Obama's Katrina.
//someday this has to stick
 
2013-11-05 06:38:15 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: So, you're saying that we as a country should kick all the teabaggers out of office?


It would be worth it if they took everyone else with them. Reelect nobody.

gaspode: Can anyone here say with any confidence that this company were at fault for a sufficiently bad farkup that they should never be allowed to work on government contracts again, effectively destroying their business?

Is that really justified? Has their work been compared with other companies working on less controversial projects?



I know it's way dangerous to make analogies on fark, however if the government orders a car and the car doesn't work I'd blame the manufacturer. EA had one one hundredth of the problems this site has had and everyone was howling for blood! And that's just a stupid video game. Remember people are dying for the want of the ACA and the government is need to provide it!! Right?

And I find any company whose sole income is the government dubious
 
2013-11-05 06:44:34 PM  
It takes money to retain good talent. They broke it. They're the only ones who can fix it. It's too big to fail now.
 
2013-11-05 07:30:42 PM  
Shouldn't these guys be fixing it for free at this point? We paid for a website that works, didn't we? Or wasn't that spelled out in the spec sheet?

If I delivered something this shiatty to a customer, I'd expect angry phone calls until I farking fixed it, and if there was any money changing hands, I'd probably be offering it to the customer to make up for his headaches, not telling him that there's another sizable bill due just to fix my fark-ups.

But that's just me.
 
2013-11-05 07:32:49 PM  

Hetfield: "But I ask you, would you rather have butter or Obamacare?"

-Hermann Göring


Promise me both and give me somebody to blame and I'll vote for you.

- Democrat supporters
 
2013-11-05 07:35:06 PM  
Didn't the Republicans start several somethings that have cost us trillions of $$$? While lying and hiding?
 
2013-11-05 07:44:50 PM  

cchris_39: Hetfield: "But I ask you, would you rather have butter or Obamacare?"

-Hermann Göring

Promise me both and give me somebody to blame and I'll vote for you.

- Democrat supporters


Hurr I can haz teh godwins
 
2013-11-05 07:49:41 PM  
Republicans? Opposed to private contractors? Never thought I'd see the day.
 
2013-11-05 07:51:15 PM  
Look at all of you cheerleading your leaders for mindlessly wasting even more of your money!
How noble of you all.
 
2013-11-05 08:29:23 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I think (not submitter) that the point is when someone faults so completely that there is no question it is a failure you shouldn't reward them with more work.


If you only bought from software companies that never failed, you'd soon run out of software companies - or, more accurately, you'd be buying from software companies that have never done any meaningful number of projects.

Software, as a private industry, tends to have spectacular failures for large products 1 time in 8 - and that's NOT counting projects that are killed before releasing a final product.  There simply aren't any companies out there with a perfect track record.

I work for a company that is known as the leader in our industry, and in spite of our best efforts, we still have a small percentage of projects that go terribly awry.  It's a very small minority (much less than 1 in 8), but it's unfortunately not zero.
 
2013-11-05 08:38:29 PM  
They're nowhere near F35 levels, yet.
 
2013-11-05 09:07:05 PM  
$7 million, so, what, one more contract?
 
2013-11-05 09:51:12 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Well they're the ones who know how it works (and what issues they left unfinished).

Guess we could spend $7 million getting some other company up to speed.


Hopefully, that would be an american company with american workers....i still cannot believe the unions arent flipping out over this.
 
2013-11-05 11:19:27 PM  
I thought the website was working fine now. Even the President posted a video of himself using it.

We already know the phone number worked the entire time. Even Hannity tried to game it, but got through quickly and easily.

But then again, rehashing old news as current and debunked talking points as still valid.. is what the fox says.

I was thinking of paying for totalfark, but since fark just keeps greenlighting obvious old/rehashed/incorrect articles, I'm not so sure. If fark wants the debate on new ideas and actual news, fine. But this isn't one of those articles.

I made an account on here, because I thought it'd be fun to join in for once. But this place is like a top 40 radio station now, except they're not only playing the same songs to death, they're mostly horrid songs too. It's one long April Fools day.

/Might as well make a troll tab where fark is the one trolling. Because that's all this is becoming.
//Got anything new? Can we raise the bar for articles a bit?
 
2013-11-06 01:00:20 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: Might as well make a troll tab where fark is the one trolling. Because that's all this is becoming.
//Got anything new? Can we raise the bar for articles a bit?


What's this, the alt calling the Kettle's bag?

/got nuthin
/not even chips :\
 
m00
2013-11-06 01:09:10 AM  

cchris_39: Hetfield: "But I ask you, would you rather have butter or Obamacare?"


Wait, I thought Obamacare was the butter of this metaphor. Unless it's guns, butter, or Obamacare.
 
2013-11-06 01:20:24 AM  

whidbey: Wake Up Sheeple: Might as well make a troll tab where fark is the one trolling. Because that's all this is becoming.
//Got anything new? Can we raise the bar for articles a bit?

What's this, the alt calling the Kettle's bag?

/got nuthin
/not even chips :\


I'm not following that one. Is the implication that I'm fark's alt? Huh.. I never even thought of that.

/through the looking glass here...
 
2013-11-06 02:38:15 AM  
Can we stop talking about this and get back to the actual narrative where Republicans refused to appropriate the required funds to build a working website within a reasonable timeframe in order to intentionally sabotage the launch?

I am growing weary of continually hearing about how farked healthcare.gov is without this point being HAMMERED into the dialogue.
 
2013-11-06 03:20:07 AM  

Bazzlex001: Can we stop talking about this and get back to the actual narrative where Republicans refused to appropriate the required funds to build a working website within a reasonable timeframe in order to intentionally sabotage the launch?

I am growing weary of continually hearing about how farked healthcare.gov is without this point being HAMMERED into the dialogue.


Yeah but when all is said and done, I'm still seeing a tendency to blame both sides, no matter the readily available evidence that the Republicans were deliberately trying to make policy fail, and default the US government.

This should be a big deal. But no HURR DURR BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME
TWO PARTY SYSTEM DERP DERP DERP DERP
 
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