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(Deadspin)   Richie Incognito's dad is busy defending him, and attacking Martin, on message boards using the login "idrd1994". Wait, Deadspin does investigative journalism now?   (deadspin.com) divider line 95
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2013-11-05 09:33:31 AM  
Uhhhh.....in case you forgot, they broke the Manti Te'o/Lennay Kekua story. One of our own Farkers was the one that did a good portion of the legwork.
 
2013-11-05 09:38:28 AM  
"Investigative"
"journalism"
 
2013-11-05 09:41:43 AM  
Everytime Richie goes to church. Rev. Smith punches him in the nose.
 
2013-11-05 09:49:47 AM  
Tree, apple, something something
 
2013-11-05 09:50:05 AM  
So, to prove he is not a bully Incognito challenged Schefter to a fight on Twitter and his dad is attacking Martin, saying he has mental problems and tried to commit suicide?  And the Dolphins veterans hazed their rookies until they went broke?

It does appear Philbin is unable to control his team.  Say what you will about Schiano, but I bet he wouldn't tolerate any of this nonsense from his team.
 
2013-11-05 09:56:27 AM  
drama
 
2013-11-05 09:56:37 AM  

SlothB77: So, to prove he is not a bully Incognito challenged Schefter to a fight on Twitter and his dad is attacking Martin, saying he has mental problems and tried to commit suicide?  And the Dolphins veterans hazed their rookies until they went broke?

It does appear Philbin is unable to control his team.  Say what you will about Schiano, but I bet he wouldn't tolerate any of this nonsense from his team.


I see no reason to think Schiano wouldn't tolerate it. Given his track record so far, I hazard to guess that Schiano would be egging Incognito on.
 
2013-11-05 10:01:09 AM  
Looks like his dad, unsuccessfully, tried to use the username 'idrd1994' to go ... nevermind
 
2013-11-05 10:03:05 AM  
It's so weird, a lot of people are attacking Martin for being a 'snitch' and saying he should man up. Whether trolling or not, who knows.

I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s. For better or worse, the NFL is a professional workplace environment, if someone was bullying me at work I would most definitely get management involved.

Then again the NFL seems to be home to all types of criminals. I can't imagine the physical and mental abuse 90% of these guys probably went through starting when they were kids. And nowadays you've got parents redshirting them so they will be bigger than others their age. What's the average age of a college freshman football player, 21?

IMO Martin handled it very well, he can probably use the money he gets from suing the NFL to do something he wants to do like go to law school.

Furthermore, it's such an odd attitude to have about rookies,I mean hell the rookies both earn the least AND are more likely to burn out early. You're gonna make them drop 15k on a dinner when they should be socking that cash away in case their career fizzles out?

Yet another reason I don't watch or support the NFL. Bunch of brain damaged abused a**holes.
 
2013-11-05 10:11:24 AM  
I'm sure Commissioner Player Safety will dole out the appropriate punishment. Only as long as he think this sort of thing threatens the owners' money, that is.
 
2013-11-05 11:00:35 AM  

bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.


Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.
 
2013-11-05 11:02:54 AM  

sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?
 
2013-11-05 11:06:15 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?


It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.
 
2013-11-05 11:10:09 AM  

sigdiamond2000: It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Be careful not to think you're Jackson Pollack just because you're throwing paint.
 
2013-11-05 11:17:12 AM  

sigdiamond2000: It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


+1
 
2013-11-05 11:17:45 AM  
I like the post about him joining the Jest and beating up the Miami D.

Because the Miami O line has been so solid this year. PLEASE send Incognito the the Jets. Nothing against Geno but he plays for the Jets therefore he must suffer.
 
2013-11-05 11:25:50 AM  
I, for one, am shocked that Richie Incognito's dad is an asshole.
 
2013-11-05 11:28:41 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Doesn't that quote originate with doubled99 in the first Incognito thread yesterday?
 
2013-11-05 11:30:22 AM  
So this guy Incognito is on the record dropping the N word on a fellow player, in a league full of very large black people.  I can't see this ending well for him if he ever gets back on the field.
 
2013-11-05 11:31:19 AM  

Satan's Chocolate Starfish: sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

Doesn't that quote originate with doubled99 in the first Incognito thread yesterday?


Yes.
 
2013-11-05 11:32:32 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


You're right.
 
2013-11-05 11:33:05 AM  

steve_wmn: So this guy Incognito is on the record dropping the N word on a fellow player, in a league full of very large black people.  I can't see this ending well for him if he ever gets back on the field.


Hey, Riley Cooper hasn't been torn asunder on the field yet
 
2013-11-05 11:33:24 AM  
Who would have thought such a POS like Incognito would have a POS enabling father?  Total shocker.
 
2013-11-05 11:37:19 AM  
Of course Richie Incognito's dad did not write all those posts on the message boards. He threatened his neighbor to write it for him "or else".
 
2013-11-05 11:37:54 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


I was going to post something witty about you being an autocratic ruler of fecal quality, with your demesne an isolated landform named after this site, but apparently the filter has been updated.
 
2013-11-05 11:40:54 AM  

bdub77: know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s


It's as if those four years of having everything handed to them on a platter and hard classes like Intro to Broadcasting don't prepare them for adulthood or something.

Remember, they're *giggle* "student" athletes.
 
2013-11-05 11:42:53 AM  
Nice pic of Incognito's goose step.
 
2013-11-05 11:43:06 AM  
I had a really hard time figuring this story out.  I don't associate "bullying" with people past high school, and NFL linemen generally don't take any crap from anybody.  Then I got to this part in a BBC article:
"According to ESPN, Incognito's alleged intimidation of Martin included leaving him a voice message with a racial slur as well as threats to kill him and assault his mother. "
I think it's time for the Miami PD to get involved.
 
2013-11-05 11:48:48 AM  
Here is Tedy Bruschi talking about  what supposedly happened in the Pat's locker room in his day:

"Here's an example of how it was handled when things got out of hand for us. When I was a rookie, I was asked to take the entire LB group to dinner. It cost me $1,700. As it got up to my 8th and 9th year, it turned into an entire team dinner and all the rookies paying for the dinner. That bill sometimes reached upwards of $30,000. Word got out that it was getting out of hand. I remember one captains meeting when Bill Belichick said 'That's enough of that. It's getting out of hand, guys.' Joe Philbin should have been all over this."

You can question if Belichick really put a stop to it, but if nothing else it proves this isn't just a Miami problem. Most likely league-wide.
 
2013-11-05 11:49:24 AM  
Women in domestic abuse situations should just "man up", too.  I would do it, so they should do it.  They should do what I would do.

/facepalm
 
2013-11-05 11:52:25 AM  

ArkPanda: "According to ESPN, Incognito's alleged intimidation of Martin included leaving him a voice message with a racial slur as well as threats to kill him and assault his mother. "
I think it's time for the Miami PD to get involved.


Nah. It's like Gitmo or Abu Graihb. It's just fraternity pranks.
 
2013-11-05 11:55:52 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Lisa Frank is that you?
 
2013-11-05 12:03:18 PM  
Furthermore, it's such an odd attitude to have about rookies,I mean hell the rookies both earn the least AND are more likely to burn out early. You're gonna make them drop 15k on a dinner when they should be socking that cash away in case their career fizzles out?

Until the lockout and newest CBA, there was a very good chance that a top 10 pick (and maybe even beyond on that) had more money in their checking account than most of the team.

I think when the 1st round guys started getting really crazy money, the whole "you're taking us out to dinner" crap started. It hasn't been that way for a couple of years, but the tradition has stuck.
 
2013-11-05 12:08:25 PM  
I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s. For better or worse,  the NFL is a professional workplace environment, if someone was bullying me at work I would most definitely get management involved.


You can't go around slapping people on the ass in a normal workplace environment. Trust me, I know.
 
2013-11-05 12:08:52 PM  

bdub77: It's so weird, a lot of people are attacking Martin for being a 'snitch' and saying he should man up. Whether trolling or not, who knows.

I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s. For better or worse, the NFL is a professional workplace environment, if someone was bullying me at work I would most definitely get management involved.

Then again the NFL seems to be home to all types of criminals. I can't imagine the physical and mental abuse 90% of these guys probably went through starting when they were kids. And nowadays you've got parents redshirting them so they will be bigger than others their age. What's the average age of a college freshman football player, 21?

IMO Martin handled it very well, he can probably use the money he gets from suing the NFL to do something he wants to do like go to law school.

Furthermore, it's such an odd attitude to have about rookies,I mean hell the rookies both earn the least AND are more likely to burn out early. You're gonna make them drop 15k on a dinner when they should be socking that cash away in case their career fizzles out?

Yet another reason I don't watch or support the NFL. Bunch of brain damaged abused a**holes.


Well, hazing takes place everywhere in every sport.  It is tradition in MLB that at some point during the season the rookies are going to have to wear some ridiculous outfit to the airpport for a road trip, up to and including dressing like women.  That is hazing.  NHL rookies pay for a dinner for the team ONCE during the season.  That is an accepted practice and all the rookies pay for it, not just one.  What Ingonito, and others, did was abuse and workplace harrassment.  They extorted 15 THOUSAND dollars for a trip the kid didn't to go on because he had already endured a year of abuse from these roided up assholes.

There was a story Sunday about how Junior Seau stole Phillip Rivers credit card and charged a huge meal to it when Rivers was a rookie.  He (Rivers) went to the GM who then told the team to knock it off.  During the next practice, Rivers threw an INT and Seau BLASTED him on the return, a huge no-no during team practice.  Shottenheimer let it go to 'build morale' and basically show Rivers that he was a baby.  What is missed in the 'prank' is that Seau committed felony credit card fraud since the bill was over 10k.  He could have been arrested and spent time in jail for what he did.

Apparently someone in the St Louis media decided to ask Jake Long, a former Dolphin linemen until this year, about the hazing and he refused to answer any questions.

srhp29: Who would have thought such a POS like Incognito would have a POS enabling father?  Total shocker.


Yep.  Incognito is a POS.  There are plenty of stories about him partying while he was supposed be rehabbing while playing for the Rams, not to mention how he cost the Rams a chance at the playoffs one year with 25 yards in penalties on 2 point conversion.

I have a friend who worked at Rams Park for years (until last month actually) and she said that the stories that get buried about the athletes in every city would put the Rotheliesburger bathroom rape story to shame.  Nothing specific to Incognito but she said in 15 years working out there, he was one of the 2-3 biggest assholes to ever be in the building.  Her comment was "at least with him he made no bones about being an asshole, other guys are bigger assholes when there is no camera around but when the red light is on, they are totally different".
 
2013-11-05 12:11:54 PM  

ladodger34: Furthermore, it's such an odd attitude to have about rookies,I mean hell the rookies both earn the least AND are more likely to burn out early. You're gonna make them drop 15k on a dinner when they should be socking that cash away in case their career fizzles out?

Until the lockout and newest CBA, there was a very good chance that a top 10 pick (and maybe even beyond on that) had more money in their checking account than most of the team.

I think when the 1st round guys started getting really crazy money, the whole "you're taking us out to dinner" crap started. It hasn't been that way for a couple of years, but the tradition has stuck.



First and maybe some second-round picks could afford to shell out a few thousand dollars.  But you have plenty of players on each roster who are not first- or second-round picks, several of whom were actually undrafted, and a good percentage of those would likely be in the NFL for only a couple of years.  That's a significant percentage of their career NFL salary the veterans were demanding they pay.

You only hope that practice squad players weren't included, but they probably were.  They make only a few thousand for each week they're on the squad.
 
2013-11-05 12:12:00 PM  

doubled99: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s. For better or worse,  the NFL is a professional workplace environment, if someone was bullying me at work I would most definitely get management involved.


You can't go around slapping people on the ass in a normal workplace environment. Trust me, I know.


If you weren't so ugly you could. Being beautiful has it's privileges.
 
2013-11-05 12:12:40 PM  
Wait, Deadspin does investigative journalism now?

Why not, subby?  Nobody else is doing it anymore.
 
2013-11-05 12:15:08 PM  
sigdiamond2000 Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Amen. People just hating on a tradition they know nothing about
 
2013-11-05 12:17:10 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: bdub77: I know football is football, and I've never played the game, but it seems a little odd to me that any type of adult would act like this, even guys in their 20s.

Football is the ultimate alpha male sport. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

You keep trying that line in all the Incognito threads.  You get any bites yet

 ?

It's not about "bites." I'm developing an art form that goes beyond trolling, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Ctrl + C followed by Ctrl + V is one of the highest forms of art.  All these rubes are too uncultured to understand.
 
2013-11-05 12:17:51 PM  

Slow To Return: Women in domestic abuse situations should just "man up", too.  I would do it, so they should do it.  They should do what I would do.

/facepalm


Did you just call Martin a helpless woman?
 
2013-11-05 12:21:35 PM  

mikaloyd: Slow To Return: Women in domestic abuse situations should just "man up", too.  I would do it, so they should do it.  They should do what I would do.

/facepalm

Did you just call Martin a helpless woman?


the word "too" means "also", or "in addition to".

So, no, I didn't call him a helpless woman.
 
2013-11-05 12:23:07 PM  

RalphW: You can question if Belichick really put a stop to it, but if nothing else it proves this isn't just a Miami problem. Most likely league-wide.


I'm pretty sure if it happened to me, it would have ended in me half-chucklingly asking who the ringleader was and then choking the fark out of him even if it was the starting QB and it meant he was out for the season and I was cut on the spot.

You want me to handle it? Very well. But you're not going to like the manner in which I do so.
 
2013-11-05 12:23:35 PM  

SlothB77: So, to prove he is not a bully Incognito challenged Schefter to a fight on Twitter and his dad is attacking Martin, saying he has mental problems and tried to commit suicide?  And the Dolphins veterans hazed their rookies until they went broke?

It does appear Philbin is unable to control his team.  Say what you will about Schiano, but I bet he wouldn't tolerate any of this nonsense from his team.


They should have kept Chad Johnson. His good-natured generosity would have pulled this team together.
 
2013-11-05 12:24:25 PM  

Slow To Return: mikaloyd: Slow To Return: Women in domestic abuse situations should just "man up", too.  I would do it, so they should do it.  They should do what I would do.

/facepalm

Did you just call Martin a helpless woman?

the word "too" means "also", or "in addition to".

So, no, I didn't call him a helpless woman.


Thats good because hes totally not a helpless woman. He's a hero.
 
2013-11-05 12:24:44 PM  
He blasts the team from top to bottom, claims Incognito is getting railroaded, and uses the "black people say the N-word in rap music" argument to dismiss claims that Incognito sent racial messages to Martin.

What's his FARK handle?
 
2013-11-05 12:25:04 PM  

mikaloyd: Slow To Return: Women in domestic abuse situations should just "man up", too.  I would do it, so they should do it.  They should do what I would do.

/facepalm

Did you just call Martin a helpless woman?


Wow. Seriously? You cannot be that stupid. But kudos for trying!
 
2013-11-05 12:30:32 PM  

mikaloyd: Thats good because hes totally not a helpless woman. He's a hero.


Nate Newton was on ESPN yesterday talking about how Martin should have manned up to Incognito.  He was shutting everyone else down with "Let me tell you what Martin should have done!  And I should know, I used to play football and you didn't!"

And that got me thinking, "Hey, I'm married.  That, of course, makes me an expert on domestic abuse situations!"
 
2013-11-05 12:32:03 PM  

Slow To Return: mikaloyd: Thats good because hes totally not a helpless woman. He's a hero.

Nate Newton was on ESPN yesterday talking about how Martin should have manned up to Incognito.  He was shutting everyone else down with "Let me tell you what Martin should have done!  And I should know, I used to play football and you didn't!"

And that got me thinking, "Hey, I'm married.  That, of course, makes me an expert on domestic abuse situations!"


In Nate's defense he was so farking high, he had no idea what was going on.
 
2013-11-05 12:34:26 PM  

Slow To Return: mikaloyd: Thats good because hes totally not a helpless woman. He's a hero.

Nate Newton was on ESPN yesterday talking about how Martin should have manned up to Incognito.  He was shutting everyone else down with "Let me tell you what Martin should have done!  And I should know, I used to play football and you didn't!"

And that got me thinking, "Hey, I'm married.  That, of course, makes me an expert on domestic abuse situations!"


Honestly. The attitude of fellow NFL personnel that Martin should have just manned up is not an indictment of Martin. It is an indictment of the NFL and another reason to toss on the pile of what parents ought to consider before they let their kids sign up. You're fine with your kid being blackmailed out of tens of thousands of dollars by racist assholes, sure, sign him up for football.
 
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