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2013-11-05 09:53:45 AM
"She mentioned somehow that she was with a friend going to Busch Gardens and he turns that into, 'Are you into girls and into lesbian sex?'" said Gualtieri.

Well, Busch Gardens....
 
2013-11-05 09:53:50 AM
wow, those comments aren't even on the line they're super inappropriate. If the line was the Atlantic Ocean he definitely crossed it AND gave the natives small pox
 
2013-11-05 09:54:22 AM
The emasculation of men continues.
 
2013-11-05 09:55:01 AM
Sounds more like the directors cut of Supertroopers
 
2013-11-05 09:55:06 AM
A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.
 
2013-11-05 09:55:58 AM
A cop got fired?

It is not like he gave a city councilman a ticket or anything serious.
 
2013-11-05 09:56:15 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The emasculation of men continues.


I was thinking more "Special Officer Doofy" from Scary Movie myself.
 
2013-11-05 09:57:02 AM

Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.


Well yeah, but this involved sex!
 
2013-11-05 09:57:17 AM

Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.


Tiny Fist!!!
 
2013-11-05 09:58:08 AM
I'm sure the ladies at the local donut shop will be happy.
 
2013-11-05 09:58:18 AM

Harry Freakstorm: "She mentioned somehow that she was with a friend going to Busch Gardens and he turns that into, 'Are you into girls and into lesbian sex?'" said Gualtieri.

Well, Busch Gardens....


Well done.

*golf clap*
 
2013-11-05 09:58:25 AM

Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.


It sounds like this police chief  doesn't have his head lodged in his rectum.  The detective was a repeat offender, and was rightly fired.  I just wish that wasn't a surprising series of events.
 
2013-11-05 09:58:28 AM
Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.
 
2013-11-05 09:59:50 AM

GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.


Probably involves questions and discussion relevant to the gathering of facts when discussing the rape with the victim.
 
2013-11-05 10:00:58 AM
Farker?
 
2013-11-05 10:00:58 AM
Just the protip?
 
2013-11-05 10:01:38 AM
FTFA: Martin said he was intentionally trying to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she'd tell the truth.

Ugh.
 
2013-11-05 10:02:13 AM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.

Probably involves questions and discussion relevant to the gathering of facts when discussing the rape with the victim.


Yeah, the detective investigating the rape is going to have to gather some explicit details about the event in order to build a case and get a description of the suspect.  But you cross a line when you start undressing your victim or asking if the go both ways.
 
2013-11-05 10:02:33 AM
Rape is never funny unless it was done by a clown or a midget. If it was a midget clown then it would have been epic
 
2013-11-05 10:03:24 AM

GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.


I hope that this is covered at some point in the training and certification of law enforcement officers who interview sexual assault victims.
 
2013-11-05 10:05:27 AM

Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.


He was stupid enough to pull this shiat in front of witnesses, since the girl was a minor there was someone from CPS there per the article. They're the ones who intervened when he went to lift up her shirt. Without a witness, I'm sure he could've just claimed it was an upset rape victim blowing things out of proportion and displacing her trauma on to him. Since the firing came so quickly the shiat that wasn't in the article (they said some of it was so dirty they couldn't even allude to it) had to be so egregious or...the kid's family has connections. I'm betting the former, and I'm betting there's audio tape of the interview.

What a piece of shiat. I really wish there were criminal charges he could face. They said this was the third incident since 2011, I wonder if the other two also involved female victims of sexual assault.
 
2013-11-05 10:05:35 AM

cardex: Rape is never funny unless it was done by a clown or a midget. If it was a midget clown then it would have been epic


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2013-11-05 10:06:15 AM

GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.


There is a link in the article if your that interested.

/One overrated mall cop is available  for hire.
 
2013-11-05 10:06:31 AM
Martin said he was intentionally trying to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she'd tell the truth.

Martin said he was intentionally trying to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she'd tell the truth.

Martin said he was intentionally trying to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she'd tell the truth.

This is the sort of BS that blows my mind. Someone comes in claiming to be assaulted, and you decide that you need to press them to make sure they aren't trying to pull a fast one on you? Would you do the same thing to someone if they came in claiming they had been mugged? Or is it just that you think women are so predisposed to file false rape charges that you need to make sure they aren't promiscuous/LGBT/into kinky stuff which would betray that it somehow wasn't a rape.
 
2013-11-05 10:08:34 AM
That some great police work there Lou...............
 
2013-11-05 10:12:02 AM

maereth: FTFA: Martin said he was intentionally trying to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she'd tell the truth.

Ugh.


I don't see anything wrong with that. If he got her uncomfortable enough to fluster her, shell start to make contradictory statements. Once she starts contradictung herself, then she would be a criminal and he can put her in jail for obstruction of justice.

Putting criminals in jail us his job. Don't you want to give police the tools they need to do their job?
 
2013-11-05 10:12:35 AM

Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.


They said it was his third time doing this kind of shiat.  They just don't want to be sued.
 
2013-11-05 10:15:33 AM
I was going to attempt to make a funny comment, then I read the complaint. This guy actually randomly asked the victim if she had anal sex when nowhere in the course of the investigation was anal sex alleged to have ever taken place.

WTF?

It also sounds like he was about an inch away from openly groping her at one point. Creepy.
 
2013-11-05 10:16:21 AM
I am sure they have a job for him in Stafford County, Va.


/Had a deputy mock me for being a (one-legged) cripple.
//Also called his buddies and had them join in the fun.
 
2013-11-05 10:18:30 AM
So, is the rule now that all cops are to be fired if they are rude and make complaining victims feel uncomfortable?

If a male victim of a crime were to say that the investigator was unconcerned and brusque, is that now grounds for termination?

I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target.  But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.
 
2013-11-05 10:20:42 AM

Phinn: So, is the rule now that all cops are to be fired if they are rude and make complaining victims feel uncomfortable?

If a male victim of a crime were to say that the investigator was unconcerned and brusque, is that now grounds for termination?

I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target.  But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.


Yes yes that's totally it. I get that your butt is all hurt. I'm sure you're just as pretty, etc etc.
 
2013-11-05 10:21:25 AM

GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.


Apparently,  ex-officer Rapey McFired knows
 
2013-11-05 10:22:46 AM
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Was that wrong?
 
2013-11-05 10:25:40 AM

Lady Indica: Phinn: So, is the rule now that all cops are to be fired if they are rude and make complaining victims feel uncomfortable?

If a male victim of a crime were to say that the investigator was unconcerned and brusque, is that now grounds for termination?

I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target.  But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.

Yes yes that's totally it. I get that your butt is all hurt. I'm sure you're just as pretty, etc etc.



You didn't finish your sentence, so you're not making a whole lot of sense, but I think you're saying that you're unconcerned about the government's apparent inability to conform to the principle of equal treatment, so long as the privileges flow in your favor.
 
2013-11-05 10:26:34 AM

labman: Mugato: A cop actually got fired? He must have pissed off the captain for something else. Cops kill random people and get away with it.

They said it was his third time doing this kind of shiat.  They just don't want to be sued.


Yeah the usual 2 week paid vacation while they sweep it under the rug wouldn't cut it in this case.
 
2013-11-05 10:27:07 AM

Phinn: I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target. But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.


As a white, straight male, I totally feel your pain. Why isn't anyone looking out for us? We're the real victims in this. Keep speaking truth to power bro!
 
2013-11-05 10:28:41 AM
Dead cop/good cop, yada yada yada.
 
2013-11-05 10:29:24 AM
For the love of Christ, I can't see what Obama had to do with this.
 
2013-11-05 10:33:10 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Phinn: I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target. But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.

As a white, straight male, I totally feel your pain. Why isn't anyone looking out for us? We're the real victims in this. Keep speaking truth to power bro!



If you act that tough in real life, lots of women will have sex with you.  Promise.

I'm just surprised that I haven't seen any other instances of police departments taking their employees' rudeness to complaining victims so seriously.  Try videotaping one sometime, and count how many official termination letters are eventually issued.
 
2013-11-05 10:34:30 AM
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2013-11-05 10:36:30 AM
A rape thread just isn't a rape thread without the republicans.
 
2013-11-05 10:39:02 AM

Phinn: Lady Indica: Phinn: So, is the rule now that all cops are to be fired if they are rude and make complaining victims feel uncomfortable?

If a male victim of a crime were to say that the investigator was unconcerned and brusque, is that now grounds for termination?

I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target.  But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.

Yes yes that's totally it. I get that your butt is all hurt. I'm sure you're just as pretty, etc etc.

You didn't finish your sentence, so you're not making a whole lot of sense, but I think you're saying that you're unconcerned about the government's apparent inability to conform to the principle of equal treatment, so long as the privileges flow in your favor.


Where did that happen in this incident? Oh...it didn't. Attention whores, even male ones, aren't worth bothering with. Plonk.
 
2013-11-05 10:40:39 AM

neversubmit: A rape thread just isn't a rape thread without the republicans.


Rape Rape

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2013-11-05 10:41:34 AM

GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.


During the rape kit the attending said out loud "Looks like an Arby's kitchen explosion down here" and the deputy said he's still eat it
 
2013-11-05 10:43:24 AM

Lady Indica: Where did that happen in this incident? Oh...it didn't.



Where did I say that it did?  I think it's great to see a government supervisor actually expecting an underling to interact with the public in a way that's minimally decent.  I'd just like to see this employment action elevated to the status of general principle, to be applied to all cops as they communicate with everyone.


Lady Indica: Attention whores, even male ones, aren't worth bothering with. Plonk.



What do you mean by "even"?  Are you saying that attention whoring is a predominantly female activity?  That's so sexist I don't know what to do with myself.
 
2013-11-05 10:44:17 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.

During the rape kit the attending said out loud "Looks like an Arby's kitchen explosion down here" and the deputy said he's still eat it


Everybody in this thread is now a worse person for having read that.

Bravo
 
2013-11-05 10:49:04 AM
Phinn (favorite: Men's Rights Zealot): That's so sexist I don't know what to do with myself.

I'm sure that you'll get several suggestions.
 
2013-11-05 10:50:15 AM

Phinn: So, is the rule now that all cops are to be fired if they are rude and make complaining victims feel uncomfortable?

If a male victim of a crime were to say that the investigator was unconcerned and brusque, is that now grounds for termination?

I'd love to see the cops be held to the same minimal standards of civil, human interaction as, say, the cashiers at Target.  But for some reason, I think that only politically-favored groups will see the kind of protection that this 17 year-old female received.


Did you read the report? If a guy was a victim of sexual battery and the officer asked him to describe if the suspect seemed to think certain parts of his body were particularly arousing (using slang terms and implying that they shared an attraction to those features), if the officer told the victim he better do as they say because his destiny was in the officer's hands and that the officer controlled them, and if the officer demanded to see scar tissue unrelated to the case that is close to sexually sensitive parts of the guy's body and actually reached out in an attempt to partially disrobe him to see it: yes, that would be grounds for termination. Hell, any of it should at least be grounds for reprimand.

Plus the dude in question in this case has a history of policy violations and was unapologetic in this case because he said his goal was to make the victim feel uncomfortable so she would be more truthful, despite no evidence that she was anything but forthright about the incident.
 
2013-11-05 10:51:44 AM
""I'm not going to tolerate it," said Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri. "I'm not going to have it. This is the third issue since 2011.""

So I guess since 2011 he actually did tolerate it.
 
2013-11-05 10:52:58 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: IdBeCrazyIf: GalFriday: Could someone please define sexually appropriate comments?  I want to know what the sexually appropriate comments are when discussing rape with a 17 years victim.

During the rape kit the attending said out loud "Looks like an Arby's kitchen explosion down here" and the deputy said he's still eat it

Everybody in this thread is now a worse person for having read that.

Bravo


I'll admit I laughed...
 
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