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(The Joplin Globe)   Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery   (joplinglobe.com) divider line 20
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2013-11-05 09:49:51 AM
A 27-year-old Joplin woman

And Janis Joplin died at 27. That's messed up.
 
2013-11-05 11:00:00 AM
That's some unusual theft prevention initiative for a Wal-Mart employee. I bet he gets fired for it.
 
2013-11-05 11:06:09 AM

cgraves67: That's some unusual theft prevention initiative for a Wal-Mart employee. I bet he gets fired for it.


If he didn't help the perp load the van, he's getting fired.
 
2013-11-05 11:10:37 AM
The employee told an officer who arrived on the scene that she was in possession of a gun, and she threw it on the ground and was arrested, Stewart said.

If this had been LA the cops would have put the woman down.
 
2013-11-05 11:14:47 AM

ToastTheRabbit: The employee told an officer who arrived on the scene that she was in possession of a gun, and she threw it on the ground and was arrested, Stewart said.

If this had been LA the cops would have put the woman uninvolved driver of a nearby pickup truck down.


I have corrected your error.
 
2013-11-05 11:22:03 AM
569.020. 1. A person commits the crime of robbery in the first degree when he forcibly steals property and in the course thereof he, or another participant in the crime,

(1) Causes serious physical injury to any person; or

(2) Is armed with a deadly weapon; or

(3) Uses or threatens the immediate use of a dangerous instrument against any person; or

(4) Displays or threatens the use of what appears to be a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.
 
2013-11-05 11:22:07 AM
<csb>I worked loss prevention for a few years and pressed armed robbery charges like this a couple times when people pulled stuff like box knives on me. It probably sounded like a good idea until 10 seconds later when backup and mall security's truck arrive.</csb>
 
2013-11-05 11:25:48 AM

BillSPreston: 569.020. 1. A person commits the crime of robbery in the first degree when he forcibly steals property and in the course thereof he, or another participant in the crime,

(1) Causes serious physical injury to any person; or

(2) Is armed with a deadly weapon; or

(3) Uses or threatens the immediate use of a dangerous instrument against any person; or

(4) Displays or threatens the use of what appears to be a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.


Well, you are an esquire......
 
2013-11-05 11:53:38 AM
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2013-11-05 12:09:48 PM
Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?
 
2013-11-05 12:29:41 PM

lilbjorn: Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?


nope.

if you're approached by walmart personnel of any kind with even the slightest accusation of shoplifting, your best bet is to calmly and quietly walk away while ignoring them. if they touch you in any way, keep your composure, tell them to release you, and let them know you now have a case for a lawsuit. burden of proof is on wm. they must have an unbroken line-of-sight on you taking an item, concealing it, and proceding past the checkout stands* without paying for the item, or else they can face unlawful detainment charges.

i am NOT advocating theft at all. i abhore theft, and know that it just causes honest people like myself to have to pay more for things i buy.

but i've also worked retail security and there are some very strict rules about what you can and can't do. we were told (worked at a target 10+ years ago) that even if we did have that line-of-sight visual the entire time, if they made it past the doors* without paying, we could not approach them. we COULD, in that case, contact police with a description of the person, what they are assumed to have stolen, and hopefully a vehicle, if we could see them getting in one.

*your laws may vary. here, the law is you can be charged with shoplifting if you have gone past the last possible p.o.s./checkout stand without paying. the target i worked at was in arkansas and i believe the exit doors were the limit.
 
2013-11-05 12:47:17 PM

lilbjorn: Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?


Yes,  this isn't what the armed robbery laws are for.  They are designed for when you go up to the cashier and use the threat of the gun to get the cashier to empty the register.  This is throwing on additional charges on a technicality over what the spirit of the law is.
 
2013-11-05 12:55:39 PM
What a Tawatt.


Warlordtrooper: lilbjorn: Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?

Yes,  this isn't what the armed robbery laws are for.  They are designed for when you go up to the cashier and use the threat of the gun to get the cashier to empty the register.  This is throwing on additional charges on a technicality over what the spirit of the law is.


Are you being ironic or sarcastic?  This is exactly what she is being charged with.  She used a weapon in a threat of force to take something from the store.  There's not some silly stipulation as to the specifics like it having to be at the cash register instead of at the door with security.
 
2013-11-05 01:45:38 PM
Pointing an unsharpened pencil at a cop can get you put down.
 
2013-11-05 01:57:30 PM
Wal-Mart deserves its own tag.
 
2013-11-05 05:08:51 PM
At Wal-Mart you don't have to stop and show a receipt.
 
2013-11-05 10:44:30 PM
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Mister... it's nothing personal.
 
2013-11-06 12:57:56 AM

lilbjorn: Protip: If you get stopped for shoplifting by security personnel at Wal-Mart and point a BB gun at them, the charges will be upgraded to armed robbery

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?


IMO, when the thief starts waving a gun around, whoever they are pointing it at shouldn't wait to figure out if it's a toy or not, they should shoot him dead.  I don't have much sympathy for thieves, and even less for thieves that are pointing guns at people.

Warlordtrooper: Yes, this isn't what the armed robbery laws are for. They are designed for when you go up to the cashier and use the threat of the gun to get the cashier to empty the register.


Whatchoo talkin' about, Willis?

We have a thief who attempted to use the threat of a weapon to get away with their crime.  That's *exactly* what the laws are designed to prevent.
 
2013-11-06 12:59:33 AM
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2013-11-06 01:01:42 AM
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