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2013-11-05 12:05:34 AM
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2013-11-05 12:26:18 AM
seems healthy
 
2013-11-05 12:47:19 AM
I thought that article was satire. Jesus Christ.
 
2013-11-05 01:18:07 AM
This thread is going to be a violent bloodsport.  Though I anticipate people will argue the discussion will be less brutal than the boxing threads, where people tend to batter each other with the same talking points over and over.
 
2013-11-05 01:20:40 AM
Eh, the sport is probably not as concerning as the sensational story depicts.  A lot of leading, suggestive writing in that article.  The same impression could probably be drawn of many youth activities if reported similarly.
 
2013-11-05 03:29:09 AM
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Personally, I don't see how this is different from any other sport. Tiger Woods was forced to start golfing when he was still shorter than a club. At least by 7, you're old enough to have been rough housing and wrestling for a few years naturally and is the age Spartans started their ordeals. I went the ER a couple times when I was 5 from playground friendly fights. Teaching you how to do it right is just helpful if you want to continue the sport.
 
2013-11-05 03:45:42 AM
Oh, and to actually comment on the article, I suppose someone would actually have to explain how this is any different than raising your kid to box, or take up another martial art, or whatever.  Everyone seems to be immediately jumping to "they're raising a generation of super-bullies on whose brains will be so rattled that they'll be a threat to all of their children", as though that same scenario didn't play out through a generation exposed primarily to boxing and wrestling.  That said, it seems kind of stupid to expose your young kids to a training regimen where they're going to be taking repeated blows to the head.
 
2013-11-05 03:47:46 AM

doglover: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x476]

Personally, I don't see how this is different from any other sport. Tiger Woods was forced to start golfing when he was still shorter than a club. At least by 7, you're old enough to have been rough housing and wrestling for a few years naturally and is the age Spartans started their ordeals. I went the ER a couple times when I was 5 from playground friendly fights. Teaching you how to do it right is just helpful if you want to continue the sport.


So, I was right there with ya, having grown up as a latchkey kid. Then I remembered the one thing that's portends this will end in disaster:

Tee-Ball Parents.
 
2013-11-05 03:57:44 AM

corq: doglover: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x476]

Personally, I don't see how this is different from any other sport. Tiger Woods was forced to start golfing when he was still shorter than a club. At least by 7, you're old enough to have been rough housing and wrestling for a few years naturally and is the age Spartans started their ordeals. I went the ER a couple times when I was 5 from playground friendly fights. Teaching you how to do it right is just helpful if you want to continue the sport.

So, I was right there with ya, having grown up as a latchkey kid. Then I remembered the one thing that's portends this will end in disaster:

Tee-Ball Parents.


I don't think so. Do you really want to be surrounded by MMA guys with their kids and then start some shiat?
 
2013-11-05 05:19:08 AM
If the Daily Mail put half as much effort into actual journalism that they do to mindless dick-flicking bullsh*t, they would be a monolith of integrity.
 
2013-11-05 05:28:09 AM
I wouldn't mind this so much if it weren't for pretty much the guarantee of a cauliflower ear before they reach high school. It seems like a needlessly violent activity.
 
2013-11-05 05:32:41 AM
God forbid we get kids into a lifelong appreciation for physical fitness. Still, I thought kids generally didn't train submissions because of the risk of injury.
 
2013-11-05 05:34:01 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I wouldn't mind this so much if it weren't for pretty much the guarantee of a cauliflower ear before they reach high school. It seems like a needlessly violent activity.


Thats a valid point.  Even with headgear, that much exposure (from such an early age) makes it likely.  I wonder if a seven year old kid and even reasonably make an informed decision regarding cauliflower ear due to prolonged participation.
 
2013-11-05 05:35:26 AM
Inside the outrageous world of child baseball: Tiny boys who are trained to wield bats and throw things at each other in America's baby Little League

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A child cries after something probably monstrous happens
 
2013-11-05 05:42:15 AM

thamike: If the Daily Mail put half as much effort into actual journalism that they do to mindless dick-flicking bullsh*t, they would be a monolith of integrity.


the uk is SO over the DM. i hear they're making a play for the outraged, educationally subnormal of murica
 
2013-11-05 05:50:02 AM
As kids all the boys in school would run towards the side of the playground and wrestle.  We loved it. 
Unless the kids are forced to do it I don't see an issue, boys want to fight each other.
 
2013-11-05 05:50:28 AM

jepah: Inside the outrageous world of child baseball: Tiny boys who are trained to wield bats and throw things at each other in America's baby Little League

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A child cries after something probably monstrous happens


Inside the world of aquatic children's deathtraps, where children are harnessed with torturous rubber arm cuffs and forced to stay afloat while adults look on in amusement.


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The panicked tots remain struggling in the ice cold, toxic chemical-filled water until one of the churlish onlookers decides if and when to finally come to their aid. Sometimes the adults just remain seated on the perimeter, occasionally taunting the children with useless instructions.
This is the last known photo of Thomas.
 
2013-11-05 05:51:01 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I wouldn't mind this so much if it weren't for pretty much the guarantee of a cauliflower ear before they reach high school. It seems like a needlessly violent activity.


your worried about superficial appearances when you should be more concerned about developing brains being treated like an orange in a jar that's being shaken up a few times a week.

full contact mma for kids is a horrible idea, and im not surprised that so many fathers and chest thumpers glorify, and emulate through their children their selfish dreams of celebrity status perpetuated by television (FANTASYLANDYATARDS).

frankly it makes me want to vomit when I see how dumbed down and impressionable people are...

im sure if you put a t.v. show on 5 days a week for 10 years about how much fun it is to jump off a cliff or a bridge into shallow water and jagged rocks, made a celebrity out of the ones that survived that it would catch on quicker than Aztec blood sacrifices or witch burning.

monkey see, monkey doo, but first hold my beer.
 
2013-11-05 05:53:38 AM
I'm okay with the fighting aspect of it, but not so comfortable with the strong homosexual overtones to the training. The naked photos, the compelled hugging of other kids, the leather. That sort of sexualization should not be forced on children.
 
2013-11-05 05:59:27 AM

nickdaisy: I'm okay with the fighting aspect of it, but not so comfortable with the strong homosexual overtones to the training. The naked photos, the compelled hugging of other kids, the leather. That sort of sexualization should not be forced on children.


And teaching them not to be homophobic is pretty good, too.
 
2013-11-05 06:01:50 AM
I've seen a lot of families in which the parents live vicariously through their children. They force them into activities that the kid expressed no prior interest in, then they make it the kid's entire world.

Those kids turn into adults with a myriad of little problems.

Meh. I think kids should pick their own pastimes and parents should either be supportive or stay out of their way - within reason, of course.
 
2013-11-05 06:04:09 AM

nickdaisy: I'm okay with the fighting aspect of it, but not so comfortable with the strong homosexual overtones to the training. The naked photos, the compelled hugging of other kids, the leather. That sort of sexualization should not be forced on children.



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2013-11-05 06:05:03 AM

doglover: Personally, I don't see how this is different from any other sport. Tiger Woods was forced to start golfing when he was still shorter than a club. At least by 7, you're old enough to have been rough housing and wrestling for a few years naturally and is the age Spartans started their ordeals. I went the ER a couple times when I was 5 from playground friendly fights. Teaching you how to do it right is just helpful if you want to continue the sport.


Came for Sparta and therefore not barbaric.
 
2013-11-05 06:08:02 AM
Well if the end football for these little crumb snatchers, then something will have to take it's place. Duh.

/geesh
 
2013-11-05 06:09:33 AM
tiny fists

/of fury
 
2013-11-05 06:10:32 AM

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Dude with the Mohawk is totally tapping that tonight

 
2013-11-05 06:10:38 AM
It'll surely backfire on the parents and they'll be left with poets and philosophers by the time this is all done.
 
2013-11-05 06:12:26 AM
Supporters compare it's benefits to boxing and traditional martial arts and claim that it encourages self-discipline, fair play and exercise.

Um... boxing is terrible for younger people and most competitions flat-out ban anyone under 15 or 16.

Admittedly if they ban head shots it's no worse than any other form of unarmed competition training, but the picture of the kid with a busted nose does not fill me with confidence that this is the case.  BJJ and the other MMA standards are a lot closer to dancing than a real fight if you take the regular concussions out of it.
 
2013-11-05 06:13:24 AM
This is just wrestling on meth.
 
2013-11-05 06:14:21 AM
And you thought soccer moms were a pain in the ass...
 
2013-11-05 06:14:25 AM
Do these kids actually have enough muscle mass to hurt each other? Also, what's the minimum age, my kid needs some sort of combat training for the inevitable robosexual apocalypse.
 
2013-11-05 06:15:58 AM
It's about time someone other than hippies and pussies made parenting news. From California, no less.

Although, I will say that those kids probably shouldn't be trying to get nicknames. Stuff from age 7 can stick and being 35 and referred to as "T-Rex" probably won't score any chicks.
 
2013-11-05 06:17:27 AM
Other people sometimes disgust almost as much as that weird hairy lint from the upper part of my butt crack.
 
2013-11-05 06:18:17 AM
This is sure to promote gayness at a young age. It must be banned*.


/Except in church fetes and in the Vatican state.
 
2013-11-05 06:20:05 AM
Wow, people complain about bullying and then they complain if you teach kids to stand up for themselves.
 
2013-11-05 06:20:45 AM

StoPPeRmobile: doglover: Personally, I don't see how this is different from any other sport. Tiger Woods was forced to start golfing when he was still shorter than a club. At least by 7, you're old enough to have been rough housing and wrestling for a few years naturally and is the age Spartans started their ordeals. I went the ER a couple times when I was 5 from playground friendly fights. Teaching you how to do it right is just helpful if you want to continue the sport.

Came for Sparta and therefore not barbaric.


It's practically the definition of not barbaric. They're the only people Alexander didn't conquer.
 
2013-11-05 06:22:39 AM
I'd just give my kid powerthirst.....

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2013-11-05 06:23:28 AM
Still safer than football.
 
2013-11-05 06:24:24 AM

baufan2005: Wow, people complain about bullying and then they complain if you teach kids to stand up for themselves.


That's the moral of the story: people suck.

Those who can, whine.

Those who can't, also whine.
 
2013-11-05 06:24:24 AM

baufan2005: Wow, people complain about bullying and then they complain if you teach kids to stand up for themselves.


That's not standing up for yourself. That's curling up in a ball in the ground for yourself. Which sounds worse, but the pictures make it look more effective.
 
2013-11-05 06:27:33 AM
tyrunn, Leeds, moments ago
Speaking as someone who has taken part in full contact martial arts competitions, and also tournaments where younger children were taking part all I can say is that I hope very single person here who is "shocked" and "outraged" has a child who dies from an obesity related disease


 I love this guys logic and compassion. "I hope every one of you has a child who dies!" Yeah, he sounds like a really sane and well adjusted person. All praise the miracle that is full contact martial arts for teaching people how to get along.
 
2013-11-05 06:29:48 AM
I'm divided. On the one hand, kids are tougher than they look, and this might really help them stay tough as they grow up. On the other hand, as a former child of abuse, I think kids have better things to do than learn how to take a beating.
 
2013-11-05 06:32:43 AM

mraudacia: AverageAmericanGuy: I wouldn't mind this so much if it weren't for pretty much the guarantee of a cauliflower ear before they reach high school. It seems like a needlessly violent activity.

your worried about superficial appearances when you should be more concerned about developing brains being treated like an orange in a jar that's being shaken up a few times a week.

full contact mma for kids is a horrible idea, and im not surprised that so many fathers and chest thumpers glorify, and emulate through their children their selfish dreams of celebrity status perpetuated by television (FANTASYLANDYATARDS).

frankly it makes me want to vomit when I see how dumbed down and impressionable people are...

im sure if you put a t.v. show on 5 days a week for 10 years about how much fun it is to jump off a cliff or a bridge into shallow water and jagged rocks, made a celebrity out of the ones that survived that it would catch on quicker than Aztec blood sacrifices or witch burning.

monkey see, monkey doo, but first hold my beer.


Yeah, considering the information that's coming out now about how concussions are not so good for adult athletes, I can't imagine they're great for kids.
 
2013-11-05 06:35:12 AM

Slaxl: tyrunn, Leeds, moments ago
Speaking as someone who has taken part in full contact martial arts competitions, and also tournaments where younger children were taking part all I can say is that I hope very single person here who is "shocked" and "outraged" has a child who dies from an obesity related disease

 I love this guys logic and compassion. "I hope every one of you has a child who dies!" Yeah, he sounds like a really sane and well adjusted person. All praise the miracle that is full contact martial arts for teaching people how to get along.


Do you not remember the karate kid?

Chain link fence octogons might look worse because iron looks hard, but there's been kids this age fighting in squares with just hardwood floor on the edge for centuries. You hit chain link, you're gonna bounce off. It's fun. You miss the mat in karate, you might break your arm, get a nasty splinter, or worse. I used to teach a guy who did karate and his students started pretty damn young.

And really, you're being sexist. These "full contact" sports are being done by kids. A 7 year old can't really throw much of a punch under any circumstance. Meanwhile, his sister of the same age is doing cartwheels on a balance beam and risking paralysis and death multiple times per minute for hours a day and none of you all say a thing because isn't she cute in her little pink leotard.
 
2013-11-05 06:37:07 AM
there is something very peculiar about this
 
2013-11-05 06:37:09 AM
The kids of MMA are taking their cues from the 'Ultimate Fighting Championship' or 'UFC' where moves like the 'Ground Pound' and the 'Cobra Strangle' have millions tuning in every week.

BWAAAAA HA HA HAAAAAA HA HAAAA!!!!

Yeah, you really know your MMA moves, buddy. I'm just surprised that you failed to mention the Wushi Finger Hold or the Atomic Piledriver.
 
2013-11-05 06:37:35 AM

sxacho: It'll surely backfire on the parents and they'll be left with poets and philosophers by the time this is all done.


CSB TIME!

My buddies kid wanted to take mma training. He's the sweetest kid ever, super sensitive, so he's like sure just understand that it's going to he violent and you might get hurt. Kids been in it 3yrs and loves it. He's also still a super sweet and sensitive kid.

Moral of csb? If your kids a jerk it won't help him, if your kid isn't, it won't turn him into one.
 
2013-11-05 06:46:32 AM
Daddy turned out to be a pussy so he's going to beat into little Johnny's head how to be a big, tough man.
Problem is that kids like that turn into bullies, then get teased mercilessly in high school, then finally end up gay by college.


/Knew a kid like that...always cracks me up when I think about it all.
 
2013-11-05 06:47:20 AM

jaybeezey: My buddies kid wanted to take mma training. He's the sweetest kid ever, super sensitive, so he's like sure just understand that it's going to he violent and you might get hurt. Kids been in it 3yrs and loves it. He's also still a super sweet and sensitive kid.

Moral of csb? If your kids a jerk it won't help him, if your kid isn't, it won't turn him into one.


How DARE you bring in a closer look at it instead of a generalization.

You know normal people can't handle anything they can't sum up in a news story.
 
2013-11-05 06:48:09 AM

fastfxr: Daddy turned out to be a pussy so he's going to beat into little Johnny's head how to be a big, tough man.
Problem is that kids like that turn into bullies, then get teased mercilessly in high school, then finally end up gay by college.


/Knew a kid like that...always cracks me up when I think about it all.


...where the hell did you get that story from? Did the article go into how the parents beat their kids for not winning a match and I just missed it?
 
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