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2013-11-04 07:58:40 PM  
All that shiat, and they still couldn't spring for metal grates on the exhaust ports.
 
2013-11-04 08:35:14 PM  
Maybe now Storm Troopers can install the toilets and save untold thousands of contractors lives.
 
2013-11-04 09:49:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: All that shiat, and they still couldn't spring for metal grates on the exhaust ports.


Or safety railings.
 
2013-11-04 09:56:08 PM  

Tom_Slick: Maybe now Storm Troopers can install the toilets and save untold thousands of contractors lives.


Any contractor working on that Death Star knew the risk involved.
 
2013-11-04 09:57:34 PM  
for $19, i guess Bothan's arent worth very much or Amazon prime has a good deal..
 
2013-11-04 10:03:09 PM  
Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?
 
2013-11-04 10:06:31 PM  

buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?


Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.
 
2013-11-04 10:11:02 PM  
I am altering the warranty, pray that I don't alter it any further
 
2013-11-04 10:12:43 PM  

grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.


But you had other people working on it, sure. Bevel Lemelisk for one, who designed the superlaser.
 
2013-11-04 10:18:23 PM  
d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net

Piss off, I09 and your late reports. I bet they know nothing of Bevel Lemelisk.
 
2013-11-04 10:21:34 PM  

calufrax: Tom_Slick: Maybe now Storm Troopers can install the toilets and save untold thousands of contractors lives.

Any contractor working on that Death Star knew the risk involved.


Sorry, Randall, but you don't tell Vader that you're unable to take his job.
 
2013-11-04 10:28:12 PM  

grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.


The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.
 
2013-11-04 10:32:19 PM  

buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?


Plus, the Death Star was fully operational. There weren't any contractors working on the Death Star at the time of the battle, it was just made to look like it wasn't complete.
 
2013-11-04 10:33:43 PM  

LesserEvil: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.


Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?
 
2013-11-04 10:36:26 PM  
Will it be g2g by the time my friends arrive?
 
2013-11-04 10:36:52 PM  

Fano: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 318x407]

Piss off, I09 and your late reports. I bet they know nothing of Bevel Lemelisk.


I was just thinking that some of this stuff looked familiar.
 
2013-11-04 10:38:33 PM  

scottydoesntknow: LesserEvil: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.

Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?


Clones ain't cheap. The empire isn't made of money you know.
 
2013-11-04 10:38:56 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

But you had other people working on it, sure. Bevel Lemelisk for one, who designed the superlaser.


And Palpatine just kept killing him and recloning him only to kill him again ad nauseum.
 
2013-11-04 10:41:10 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?


I think the clones were a one shot deal, like they made one batch of clones (maybe three but all at once) and that was it. The storm troopers in the original trilogy were just regular guys.
 
2013-11-04 10:41:57 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: scottydoesntknow: LesserEvil: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.

Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

Clones ain't cheap. The empire isn't made of money you know.



They just spend and spend and spend.  I wonder what Palpacare was like?
 
2013-11-04 10:44:58 PM  
With all the revisions Lucas made to the movie, one remarkable thing he didn't change was R2's obviously inconsistent Death Star plans that show the superlaser on the equator. Lucas apparently felt nostalgic about this painstakingly created early computer animation because it was historic achievement in film that should be preserved the way it is. Imagine that.
 
2013-11-04 10:48:09 PM  

Nem Wan: With all the revisions Lucas made to the movie, one remarkable thing he didn't change was R2's obviously inconsistent Death Star plans that show the superlaser on the equator. Lucas apparently felt nostalgic about this painstakingly created early computer animation because it was historic achievement in film that should be preserved the way it is. Imagine that.


R2 downloaded an older file on a retired server.
 
2013-11-04 11:11:57 PM  
Manual fails without the recipe for pasta arrabiata.
 
2013-11-04 11:49:54 PM  
One thing I don't get about it is the name. It in no way resembles a star. It's much more like a moon or an asteroid in terms of it's size and material make-up.
 
2013-11-05 12:04:12 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One thing I don't get about it is the name. It in no way resembles a star. It's much more like a moon or an asteroid in terms of it's size and material make-up.


When they power up the planet-destroying laser it twinkles like a star. (Plus 'death moon' or 'death asteroid' doesn't have the same ring to it.)
 
2013-11-05 12:13:18 AM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: scottydoesntknow: LesserEvil: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.

Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

Clones ain't cheap. The empire isn't made of money you know.


and it takes along while to train them.
 
2013-11-05 12:17:34 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: One thing I don't get about it is the name. It in no way resembles a star. It's much more like a moon or an asteroid in terms of it's size and material make-up.


That's no moon.
 
2013-11-05 12:18:47 AM  

Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

I think the clones were a one shot deal, like they made one batch of clones (maybe three but all at once) and that was it. The storm troopers in the original trilogy were just regular guys.


Ahh ok. I didn't know if they ceased after the clone wars. I figured they carried that on to explain all the storm troopers and not seeing any faces on them (and probably mitigate a little bit of the death toll by saying they were all clones).
 
2013-11-05 12:27:28 AM  
Soooooo....... Floors like a building, or concentric shells like a planet?
 
2013-11-05 12:33:44 AM  

SithLord: Contrabulous Flabtraption: scottydoesntknow: LesserEvil: grimlock1972: buntz: Weren't we led to believe it was built by Geonosins?  Can't we please get off the "Clerks" 'contractors' died routine?

Designed definately , built not so sure.   Not a star wars expert but i am not sure the Geonosins had anything to do with actual construction.

The Wookies were enslaved to help build both Death Stars, among other races. I'd expect the Emperor to enslave pretty much any race that supported the Republic on any contested worlds (Mon Calamari enslaved, Quarren rewarded), unless human or close to human.

Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

Clones ain't cheap. The empire isn't made of money you know.

They just spend and spend and spend.  I wonder what Palpacare was like?


Talk about Death Panels...
 
2013-11-05 12:51:03 AM  

Milo Minderbinder: Soooooo....... Floors like a building, or concentric shells like a planet?


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Yes. See the ladder on the turbocannon?

img2u.info
 
2013-11-05 01:26:02 AM  

Nem Wan: With all the revisions Lucas made to the movie, one remarkable thing he didn't change was R2's obviously inconsistent Death Star plans that show the superlaser on the equator. Lucas apparently felt nostalgic about this painstakingly created early computer animation because it was historic achievement in film that should be preserved the way it is. Imagine that.


All he cared about was upgrading the special effects and monster makeup. He didn't seem to care about how lame the computer displays looked.
 
2013-11-05 01:27:11 AM  
I always figured it was another Corellian design and construction. Doesn't Han reference Corellian
cruisers when boasting about the Millennium Falcon? (I'm going by memory and not going to look it up
right now).

 I also figured it was called "Death Star" because of it's fusion power core. It would take the power
generated by a small star to run that thing and power it's planet killer laser system.
 
2013-11-05 02:37:33 AM  
From the Comments.

"So when we fire this...planet killer...laser...what about thermal venting."
"Won't be a problem, we've got this exhaust port that runs directly from the primary core up to the surface near the northern pole of the station."
"Just one?"
"Yessir. We've calculated that the thermal signature generated by the reaction can be sufficiently dissipated internally for environmental purposes. One exhaust port will be more than sufficient for venting.
"I see. Well, in the event of an attack...however unlikely...will this prove to be a liability? We're talking about direct access to the central power core."
"Sir, I appreciate your concern but let's look at this logically.
A. The port is only 2 meters wide...two.
B. It's ray shielded so the only possible weapon would be a proton torpedo.
C. There's hundreds of miles of heavily fortified trenches to navigate through. These trenches are filled with obstacles and turbo laser batteries and are barely the width of two single man fighters. The skills and speeds required required make the odds of a successful attack almost a million to one..."
"A million to one eh?...and what if that "one" happens to get through?
"IF...and that's a big "IF"...this 'mystery' pilot ...does get through...he would still have to deal with Lord Vader and his prototype TIE Advance...AND his equally skilled wingmen. SO...unless this as of yet unamed rogue rebel pilot was as sufficiently skilled at piloting and as gifted with the Force as our own Lord Vader...AND just happened to have someone flying cover OVER him...and just happened to catch Vader and wingmen completely off guard during his torpedo run...the odds would STILL be laughingly small..."
"Well...when you put it that way...I can see your point. Perhaps I was just over thinking the problem."
"Indeed sir. Besides...it's not like the rebels have a copy of the plans or anything."
"LOL! You're absolutely right about that. Even if they did...with all these safeguards and weapons...what's the worst that could happen?"
"Exactly. Shall we get a burger sir? My treat. McEmperor has some limited edition kid's meals that I wanted to get my son."
"Really? Let's take a look"

Pure. Win.
 
2013-11-05 04:35:13 AM  
Nerds!
 
2013-11-05 06:31:19 AM  

LesserEvil: Milo Minderbinder: Soooooo....... Floors like a building, or concentric shells like a planet?





Yes. See the ladder on the turbocannon?


Floors, then? So how is gravity evenly distributed across the sphere? And who is the poor jerk whose office is on the first floor, at the bottom? Think about the water damage down there.
 
2013-11-05 07:05:32 AM  

Fano: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 318x407]

Piss off, I09 and your late reports. I bet they know nothing of Bevel Lemelisk.


And THAT is why I miss the good old WEG Star Wars. They had tech manuals for pretty much every single thing you could think of.
 
2013-11-05 07:19:36 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: I always figured it was another Corellian design and construction. Doesn't Han reference Corellian
cruisers when boasting about the Millennium Falcon? (I'm going by memory and not going to look it up
right now).

 I also figured it was called "Death Star" because of it's fusion power core. It would take the power
generated by a small star to run that thing and power it's planet killer laser system.


Corellian Engineering Corporation (CEC) was a major contractor with anyone willing to pay their fees.  They produced numerous ships not only of their own design but, like most major shipyards during the Galactic Civil War, accepted Imperial contracts to build off standardized Imperial blueprints.

Most of the CEC ships widely used by the empire weren't that big, though.  The first one that comes to mind is the CC-2200, which was the first Interdictor cruiser widely used by the Empire shortly after Episode III.  They also made several light cruisers and frigates, but there's nothing that really fits the term "big Corellian ships" for the Imperial Navy.  Unless Han is referring to license-built ships - something his brief service in (and years avoiding) the Navy would have educated him on.

I don't remember seeing any indication that CEC contracted to built an Impstar - I imagine the Kuat Drive Yards wouldn't hear of it.  But I'm positive they'd have built tons of any of the cruisers designed by Rendilii or Damorain under license.
 
2013-11-05 07:21:21 AM  
And if anyone is interested and doesn't have their WEG or D20 books anymore, just a heads-up; older RPGs are surprisingly common things to find torrents of.
 
2013-11-05 08:18:11 AM  

whither_apophis: Manual fails without the recipe for pasta arrabiata.


With or without peas?

/ Alpha-Beta 9, best sannies on the Death Star
// You're head of catering?
/// Have they solved the tray-dryer problem yet?
 
2013-11-05 09:14:08 AM  
You're still going to need a tray.
 
2013-11-05 09:18:39 AM  

Hawnkee: Fano: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 318x407]

Piss off, I09 and your late reports. I bet they know nothing of Bevel Lemelisk.

And THAT is why I miss the good old WEG Star Wars. They had tech manuals for pretty much every single thing you could think of.


i had the Rebel Alliance sourcebook but not the imperial sourcebook. i may have to hit up ebay for it. i always felt the WEG RPG kept the flame alive during the interregnum after ROTJ. Young folks may find it hard to believe that there was a time when new Star Wars stuff was hard to find, I think that's why the Zahn books made such an imprint on so many. The old WEG system was a d6 seat of the pants fun rpg.
 
2013-11-05 09:28:20 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

I think the clones were a one shot deal, like they made one batch of clones (maybe three but all at once) and that was it. The storm troopers in the original trilogy were just regular guys.

Ahh ok. I didn't know if they ceased after the clone wars. I figured they carried that on to explain all the storm troopers and not seeing any faces on them (and probably mitigate a little bit of the death toll by saying they were all clones).


The death toll for stormtroopers, excluding the invisible ones blown up with the death stars, probably wouldn't have exceeded the loss of american soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They were planetary levies, no challenge to raise for a galactic empire. Remember, Luke was hoping to get admission to the naval academy just to get of Tattoine. The cavalier use of stormtroopers belies the fact that for the empire, everything involving the rebels was the level of the us invasion of panama and Grenada.

I really liked the Stele Chronicles packaged with TIE Fighter.
 
2013-11-05 09:41:02 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Mr. Shabooboo: I always figured it was another Corellian design and construction. Doesn't Han reference Corellian
cruisers when boasting about the Millennium Falcon? (I'm going by memory and not going to look it up
right now).

 I also figured it was called "Death Star" because of it's fusion power core. It would take the power
generated by a small star to run that thing and power it's planet killer laser system.

Corellian Engineering Corporation (CEC) was a major contractor with anyone willing to pay their fees.  They produced numerous ships not only of their own design but, like most major shipyards during the Galactic Civil War, accepted Imperial contracts to build off standardized Imperial blueprints.

Most of the CEC ships widely used by the empire weren't that big, though.  The first one that comes to mind is the CC-2200, which was the first Interdictor cruiser widely used by the Empire shortly after Episode III.  They also made several light cruisers and frigates, but there's nothing that really fits the term "big Corellian ships" for the Imperial Navy.  Unless Han is referring to license-built ships - something his brief service in (and years avoiding) the Navy would have educated him on.

I don't remember seeing any indication that CEC contracted to built an Impstar - I imagine the Kuat Drive Yards wouldn't hear of it.  But I'm positive they'd have built tons of any of the cruisers designed by Rendilii or Damorain under license.


This kind of thing warms my heart and makes me glad to be on Fark.
 
2013-11-05 10:09:10 AM  

Vee-One: // You're head of catering?


That would be Mr. Stevens.

i1168.photobucket.com
 
2013-11-05 11:50:13 AM  

Nem Wan: With all the revisions Lucas made to the movie, one remarkable thing he didn't change was R2's obviously inconsistent Death Star plans that show the superlaser on the equator. Lucas apparently felt nostalgic about this painstakingly created early computer animation because it was historic achievement in film that should be preserved the way it is. Imagine that.


You should check out Adywan's Star Wars: Revisited
http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/anhr-change-list/
 
2013-11-05 02:00:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Mugato: scottydoesntknow: Why couldn't they clone more troopers, but put 'em to work instead?

I think the clones were a one shot deal, like they made one batch of clones (maybe three but all at once) and that was it. The storm troopers in the original trilogy were just regular guys.

Ahh ok. I didn't know if they ceased after the clone wars. I figured they carried that on to explain all the storm troopers and not seeing any faces on them (and probably mitigate a little bit of the death toll by saying they were all clones).


I recall that at some point being cloned into a bunch of stormtroopers was a weird honor bestowed on friends and supporters of the Emperor, thereby creating a more diverse force but one with decreasing innate ability.
 
2013-11-05 04:46:10 PM  

scottydoesntknow: All that shiat, and they still couldn't spring for metal grates on the exhaust ports.


C'mon, that would look terrible, you gotta think of the resale value
 
2013-11-05 06:41:20 PM  

Fano: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 318x407]

Piss off, I09 and your late reports. I bet they know nothing of Bevel Lemelisk.


Came here to say this. What a great book. RIP West End Star Wars.
 
2013-11-05 11:14:06 PM  
Weird. I was led to believe by Star Wars: Battlefront II that most of the stormtroopers were clones. The elite forces were all Mandalorian clones throughout the course of the civil war and they slowly phased in new (worse) genetic stock.
 
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