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2013-11-05 12:35:41 AM
If you cannot live off the land, you have no damned business being that far away from your refrigerator, asshole. Not only did you needlessly kill someone who trusted in your worthless ass, but think about all the shiat you put others through because of your ineptitude.
 
2013-11-05 12:37:26 AM

China White Tea: But since we're here, you're implying... what? That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?


Most people are arguing that there is never a situation where eating one's own dog is acceptable, which I agree with, to an extent. (Life raft, no rescue, 30 days+, sorry pooch) They are right in saying he's an asshole though, it's just too bad another bear didn't show up after he ate the dog.

/Mrs. Brainsick and I have talked about this and agreed we'll never eat our own pets in a survival situation. Neighbors' pets, yes, but not ours.
 
2013-11-05 01:01:06 AM
What a farking scumbag.
 
2013-11-05 02:18:50 AM
"He survived because he made good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," Andre Francois Bourbeau, a survival expert, told The Toronto Sun.

BULLSHIAT!!!!!

Who the FARK told him to go out there in the first place?!?!?!
 
2013-11-05 11:20:12 AM

metatronarchetype: So you're unwilling or unable to support your assertions and claims of authority.

Your concession is noted.


I've hiked +10 miles over mountainous terrain on an empty stomach before. It isn't a big deal, although when I got home I enjoyed a nice big meal.

I did a similar hike across a glacier.

I'm not in the greatest shape, either.
 
2013-11-05 11:35:48 AM

NaughtyByNurture: I've personally run 30 miles in a single go (cross country on flat surface in warm weather). I've never hiked any rough terrain. That being said, I'm pretty sure I could make it to some sort of civilization. And from the little I know, doesn't your body need water more than food?


That's not cross-country. That's road running. My cross-country, in high school, was 30 miles through rough terrain. Shirtless, with a gung-ho Marine-bound senior and his lackey swatting us with sticks the whole way.
 
2013-11-05 12:49:10 PM

Feepit: metatronarchetype: So you're unwilling or unable to support your assertions and claims of authority.

Your concession is noted.

I've hiked +10 miles over mountainous terrain on an empty stomach before. It isn't a big deal, although when I got home I enjoyed a nice big meal.

I did a similar hike across a glacier.

I'm not in the greatest shape, either.


Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.
 
2013-11-05 12:51:11 PM

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: Thousands of people walk 10 or 15 or 20 or 25 miles a day, every day, for six months and they put their experience on the internet for the world to read. Ordinary people do this all the time.
It's not a big deal.

Maybe to certain couch-potato Cheeto-feeding farkers it's inconceivable, but real people do it all the time and so should have this man.

My bet is he's bucking for some publicity in a time when attention whoring is a cultural norm.

Yes indeed, let's compare people hiking the Appalachian trail (and access to the support infrastructure that goes along with it), carrying state-of-the-art equipment and carefully prepared, high-calorie food, to someone not on the Appalachian trail, who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear.  That is a totally fair and reasonable comparison.

It is not like comparing apples to oranges.

Not at all.



What I think is BS about this guys story is this:  ...who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear

Yes, the bear that the dog ran off.  The dog just let the bear stay around and eat ALL of their food and anninilate ALL of their equipment, down to the last cast-rion skillet.  THAT is what's bullsh*t about this a-hole's story.
 
2013-11-05 01:07:05 PM

metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.


Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.
 
2013-11-05 01:08:44 PM

Cold_Sassy: THAT is what's bullsh*t about this a-hole's story.


FTFA "Police say they have yet to speak with Lavoie to get details." because he "couldn't speak".

The police generated this story from their own observations. The situation apparently was plain enough to see that they were able to come to this conclusion without the help of Lavoie explaining what happened. It doesn't take much to ruin food, even if the bear leaves behind the majority of the food, yet tears into all of the packaging, it's ALL going to spoil now. And a different person with the expertise to talk on this matter stated FTFA ""Up there, in the Canadian shield, there's little plant life to live off, so he would have been slowly, painfully dying when they found him. It's an amazing feat that he was able to keep himself alive this long with almost no equipment," survival instructor Caleb Musgrave told the Gazette." He had taken supplies to be out there for two months, and was found after having been out there for three months.
 
2013-11-05 02:06:11 PM

orclover: metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.

Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.


Hey, making false comparisons is a jerk thing to do.  Don't blame me for calling out people who make flawed arguments.
 
2013-11-05 02:12:17 PM
what a farking pussy

i would have eaten the bear

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2013-11-05 03:38:41 PM

orclover: metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.

Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.


His self-righteous sense of correctness is so adorable!

But yeah, I was intending to quote this bogus and irrational claim in my response, not compare myself to some old Canadian.

A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.
 
2013-11-05 04:11:17 PM

hammettman: HotIgneous Intruder: Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.

Yes, THIS.  This farkhead deserves some torment.


Paraphrased: "This article lacks important details about the situation and circumstances which led to the killing of the dog for survival.  I will now make wild accusations about the man from the article even though I just stated that there isn't enough evidence to conclude why things turned out the way they did."
 
2013-11-05 04:52:18 PM

WhiskeyBoy: hammettman: HotIgneous Intruder: Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.

Yes, THIS.  This farkhead deserves some torment.

Paraphrased: "This article lacks important details about the situation and circumstances which led to the killing of the dog for survival.  I will now make wild accusations about the man from the article even though I just stated that there isn't enough evidence to conclude why things turned out the way they did."


Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.
 
2013-11-05 05:02:26 PM

hammettman: Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.


The dude still managed survive, alone, in the Canadian Shield for three months when he left on the trip with supplies for two months and had much of it destroyed shortly into the trip.

How many of your 5th grade boy scouts(never alone)do you imagine would do so well? None.
 
2013-11-05 05:57:04 PM

George Babbitt: hammettman: Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.

The dude still managed survive, alone, in the Canadian Shield for three months when he left on the trip with supplies for two months and had much of it destroyed shortly into the trip.

How many of your 5th grade boy scouts(never alone)do you imagine would do so well? None.


Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.

Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you.
 
2013-11-05 06:22:12 PM

hammettman: Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.


You're making great leaps and assumptions for which you are not informed as to the realities of this man's capabilities, intent and resources. There are many articles for which you could avail yourself of and no longer rely on the baseless accusations and ignorant evaluations found in this thread.

Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you. Eat your dog when you get hungry and have nothing else to eat, and forget all the animal lovers who don't care how many humans die if it saves a single kitten/puppy, because you will show them when you make it home alive and they can't do anything about the fact that you ate your dog besides whine in an internet forum as the authorities all sympathize with his actions, haven't brought any charges, and are likely not to. Why? Because it was a dog and a man's life was on the line while going through an incredible ordeal and in the process ate his dog to aid in staying alive.

FTFY
 
2013-11-05 06:55:40 PM

George Babbitt: hammettman: Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.

You're making great leaps and assumptions for which you are not informed as to the realities of this man's capabilities, intent and resources. There are many articles for which you could avail yourself of and no longer rely on the baseless accusations and ignorant evaluations found in this thread.


Knowing one's limitations is not an assumption, but pretty much the very first thing one should know.  The man went into the wilderness, I assume, to be "at one" with nature.  This is a common, and noble pursuit, but it requires a minimal level of preparation. From the facts at hand, it was obvious he was unprepared, and unfortunately, the dog suffered for his stupidity. He brought the dog not as a backup food supply, but as a companion.  I find fault with the man because he turned on a companion.  If he'd brought a retarded 2nd cousin and ate him for food, would you make the same argument?  (That the higher level intelligence should be allowed to kill for food?)  The man is an ignorant coward and unfortunately Darwin missed a chance to thin the herd.


Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you. Eat your dog when you get hungry and have nothing else to eat, and forget all the animal lovers who don't care how many humans die if it saves a single kitten/puppy, because you will show them when you make it home alive and they can't do anything about the fact that you ate your dog besides whine in an internet forum as the authorities all sympathize with his actions, haven't brought any charges, and are likely not to. Why? Because it was a dog and a man's life was on the line while going through an incredible ordeal and in the process ate his dog to aid in staying alive.
 
2013-11-05 07:10:12 PM

hammettman: If he'd brought a retarded 2nd cousin and ate him for food, would you make the same argument? (That the higher level intelligence should be allowed to kill for food?)


Intelligence has no bearing on human value in my opinion.

hammettman: From the facts at hand, it was obvious he was unprepared,


A few quotes from the articles:(first one is the easiest)


A Quebec man survived for more than three months in the Canadian wilderness

He survived because he made good decisions.

The 44-year-old is an experienced outdoorsman

planned two-month canoe trek

It's an amazing feat that he was able to keep himself alive this long

It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that

Lavoie is an experienced hiker who often spent weeks in the wilderness by himself.
 
2013-11-05 08:00:54 PM
Yes yes it's amazing he survived for so long. It really is considering his level of stupidity. His experience let him survive a couple months instead of dropping dead within a week. Fantastic. What was his backup plan? Did he even have one or did the bear eat that too?

What was he planning to do if he bottomed out his canoe on some rocks and ripped a hole in it? What was he planning to do if he got sick or injured? Attacked by bears? Oh wait....

An emergency locator beacon might have been a good idea, especially since he was hiking into rough terrain alone. I know they're expensive but it's cheaper than a funeral(assuming the bears leave anything to be found and buried).
 
2013-11-05 08:35:40 PM
Damn dog would have starved to death by his master's side without so much as a reproving glance, and this f*ckwad eats him the first time his stomach rumbles... I'm rooting for the bears if he takes any more walkabouts.
 
2013-11-06 01:27:35 AM
Everybody should know that you need to take along a black guy to scare off the bears.

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