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2013-11-04 02:07:53 PM  
www.filmjunk.com
This is why you take your dog and a woman when you go camping.
Well, I'd certainly say she had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
 
2013-11-04 02:07:58 PM  
It's sad, but christ, you people here who think he should have starved to death rather than kill his dog are  farking nuts.
 
2013-11-04 02:08:16 PM  
Sorry but pretty much everyone upthread would probably kill and eat whatever they could of it was that or their own death.  Easy to post it from your computer chair in your office but when you're facing your own mortality you might think differently about how much you love Lassie.

/my solution is to just not wander into the wilderness alone
//love my pets
 
2013-11-04 02:08:52 PM  
Booooooooo!!!!!!

/thumbs down
 
2013-11-04 02:09:11 PM  
In all seriousness though... If I were going to be out in the backcountry for that long I'd at least have a SPOT locator with me.  If nothing else, so everyone back home could check in and see my progress on what must be an epic trip.
 
2013-11-04 02:11:41 PM  
eat your dog and maybe live for weeks BUT

TEACH YOUR DOG TO HUNT!!! and both live for months.

ya know its kinda their instinct.
 
2013-11-04 02:12:20 PM  
If I had run out of all options, I would eat my dog, my neighbor's dog and if still hungry.... my neighbors as well.
 
2013-11-04 02:14:40 PM  
From the linked article in TFA:

"When you start to go hungry, you get mood swings, your mind breaks, and you cramp up all over your body. Eventually, your body will start cannibalizing itself, eating away at the fat in your organs and then in your muscles. It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that," he added.

I'm willing to bet a good number of people who claim they would 'never' do something, if they found themselves in this type of situation, just might end up doing that something.  I'd be willing to bet that the people who resorted to cannibalism when they were stranded had thought it was a repulsive and unconscionable act before they were stranded; fighting for survival can make normal people do some crazy stuff.

Also: a bit more humorous take on this.
 
2013-11-04 02:15:14 PM  

China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.


This story has been reported by multiple outlets, some more informative than others.  My personal favorites have referred to him as "an experienced wilderness man".  An "experienced wilderness man" would know what foliage to consume, as well as how to fish or capture small game.
 
2013-11-04 02:15:58 PM  
I wonder at what point the classic cartoon scene happened where the camper was looking at the dog and all he saw was a large T-Bone steak. Meanwhile, the dog is looking back at him like, "John? You ok??"
 
2013-11-04 02:16:33 PM  

China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.


Except for this: A few days after the bear attack, Lavoie hit his dog with a rock and ate him.

Unless you're going to tell me that since they didn't specifically say he ate "the dog", then man hit his dog with a rock and then ate the rock.
 
2013-11-04 02:16:37 PM  
Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.
 
2013-11-04 02:17:20 PM  
I have been without food for 5 days. I would eat deer shiat, worms, inner bark of trees, anything else but not my dog.

Hunger hurts, but what we do with that pain separates us from animals.

It takes weeks for a well fed person to die of hunger. Water, only days. He should have been more human and less of a worthless hyena and dealt with hunger.

A few days was not killing him. Hell, the whole 3 weeks eating nothing but bugs and worms would not have killed him and chances are that the dog's hunger would have gotten it to catch or dig something up.

Worthless weakling. The wrong animal walked out alive.
 
2013-11-04 02:17:44 PM  

metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.


Citation needed.
 
2013-11-04 02:20:46 PM  
Despite what some of you say, I would never kill my dog to survive...never ever. I would freakin' kill myself first if it came to that. And dog "lovers" who say otherwise are anything but. I couldn't live with myself if I killed my dog just to survive. F'that! I'd rather die and hope my dog would make it outta the woods back to someone with more brains than me! I'd only kill my dog if she/he was crippled and in pain  and I couldn't carry her/him any longer and even THAT would be the most difficult thing I'd ever do. Part of choosing life is the QUALITY of one's life and if the only way I can survive is to kill a member of my pack, than screw it. Guess it's lights out. I had a good run. I can accept it.
 
2013-11-04 02:21:05 PM  

machoprogrammer: I love the people posting from the safety of their own home, where there is food, condemning the man for doing what he had to in order to survive.

Until you are starving to death, you don't know what you would do in that situation.


And the best way to handle this was to have a gun to shoot the bear with. Then the anti gun and anti hunting people would've still been outraged. Likely the same people.
 
2013-11-04 02:21:36 PM  
He survived because he made good decisions

Good decision #1: wandering ill-prepared into the Canadian wilderness like a farking retard.

metatronarchetype: People matter more than dogs.


Mmmm....

i.qkme.me
 
2013-11-04 02:22:42 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: From the linked article in TFA:

"When you start to go hungry, you get mood swings, your mind breaks, and you cramp up all over your body. Eventually, your body will start cannibalizing itself, eating away at the fat in your organs and then in your muscles. It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that," he added.

I'm willing to bet a good number of people who claim they would 'never' do something, if they found themselves in this type of situation, just might end up doing that something.  I'd be willing to bet that the people who resorted to cannibalism when they were stranded had thought it was a repulsive and unconscionable act before they were stranded; fighting for survival can make normal people do some crazy stuff.

Also: a bit more humorous take on this.


One of the best books on the topic... Alive.  Famous story, crappy movie and all... the book strips away the drama and deals directly with crux of survival.  I thought about humanity differently after reading that book, great read.
 
2013-11-04 02:23:41 PM  
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2013-11-04 02:24:37 PM  
All the dog haters here who are cheering on the dog eater should never be allowed into a pack.  A pride maybe.  Cats eat each other without a problem.  You must all be cat people.


I know I wouldnt eat my dogs, I wouldnt have to.  One of them would be bringing me a dead animal every hour on the hour, sometimes old and rank, sometimes fresh.  It may not be pretty but there would be plenty to eat.  In a half acre back yard he kills at least 4 squirrels and a couple birds a week.  In a forest, we would feast like kings.  Peasant kings but kings none the less.

This guy wasnt in a desert, he was in the Canadian wilderness.  Even in the winter it is full food.  He is not a hero like some of you are claiming.  He's not a survivalist.  He's just an asshole in a situation he had no business being in that he got himself into.  He definitely does not deserve a dog, but he took care of that.  He has no business being anywhere near a forest let alone the wild.  Honestly he should be forcibly relocated to a shiat hole like Detroit where can use his credit card to to buy food and avoid the packs of roaming street dogs.

We should be thankful that he wasnt camping with a small child for him to eat.  What an asshole.
 
2013-11-04 02:24:39 PM  
Wicked comment about Manimal cracked me up large.
 
2013-11-04 02:25:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.

Except for this: A few days after the bear attack, Lavoie hit his dog with a rock and ate him.

Unless you're going to tell me that since they didn't specifically say he ate "the dog", then man hit his dog with a rock and then ate the rock.


That's the subject, not a "detail" - that you couldn't sort that out in the first place makes me believe that it would probably be futile trying to aid you in differentiating between the two.

But since we're here, you're implying... what?  That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?
 
2013-11-04 02:34:06 PM  
"He survived because he made good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," Andre Francois Bourbeau, a survival expert, told

Perhaps a good decision would have been taking a field radio into the wild so that if something unpredicted happened, like saying attacked by a bear, he'd be able to contact help.
 
2013-11-04 02:36:28 PM  

metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.


My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.
 
2013-11-04 02:39:42 PM  
Damn that had to be a tough call and even harder to do.

Holy crap.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:02 PM  

China White Tea: That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?


Sure there is, for instance to feed my starving and isolated family when there is nothing else.  Not likely unless were isolated in the house and unable to forage/loot food however since the dogs would be far more useful in procurring food and securing the family than they would as a very temporary protein source.  I honestly would sooner eat a stranger and feed him to my family, the dogs would easily help with that.  Either finding a fresh body or taking down a random stranger.  You could live for a couple weeks off the meat from a 150lb human once properly processed.  A 60lb dog? Maybe a week or two.  A dod would happily chew up the bones and eat the skin (long pig crackalins, getting hungry) that you would be unable to process.  Dogs are incredibly useful for our survival.  We have genetically engineered them to be our perfect survival companion.  Why in the hell would we reduce them to what we have engineered cattle to be?

Well except chihuahua's.  Those bastards were actually meant to be food.  But can you imagine how many rats and mice those lil suckers could bring you in a day once they are properly motivated.  Hell even a cat could theoretically keep you alive on the spare crap it catches, assuming you could get it to give a fark about you.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:46 PM  

hitlersbrain: Hmm... scumbag. I'm sorry he lived and I hope he dies badly, eaten by wolves maybe. Makes me sad to be the same species.


Wow, that is a whole lot of hate to heap on another human was did something in desperation.

It's sad to see.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:50 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.

My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.


Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?
 
2013-11-04 02:45:34 PM  
The closest I've ever come to this was having to collect rainwater with a plastic tarp and rip some bark off of a bunch of trees looking for little grubs to eat. I survived, but I think it really weirded out the other people in the shopping center.
 
2013-11-04 02:46:34 PM  

metatronarchetype: Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?


Says the guy pleading for humanity by calling everyone else idiots.

SpectroBoy: Wow, that is a whole lot of hate to heap on another human was did something in desperation.


No, it's an acceptable amount of hate to heap on someone who put himself in a stupid situation through his own stupid choices. People tend not to respond kindly to people who get themselves, animal companions, family members and rescuers into bad situations by acting like cocksure jackasses.

If you don't want people to think you're a dumbass, don't do dumbass things like wander into the wilderness completely unprepared. It's like those idiots that try to climb steep mountains without appropriate training and then put rescuers at risk trying to get their stupid asses off of it.

The gene pool would be much improved by leaving them - and this guy - to the consequences of their own poor choices.
 
2013-11-04 02:48:25 PM  
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2013-11-04 02:49:24 PM  
good dog
 
2013-11-04 02:50:09 PM  

Electromax: Sorry but pretty much everyone upthread would probably kill and eat whatever they could of it was that or their own death.  Easy to post it from your computer chair in your office but when you're facing your own mortality you might think differently about how much you love Lassie.

/my solution is to just not wander into the wilderness alone
//love my pets


I wouldn't be stupid enough to voluntarily take my dog with me if there was any chance of being put in a situation where it'd be them or me.  That's why he deserved to die rather than the dog.  It was his choice, the dog just went along for the ride.
 
2013-11-04 02:55:23 PM  

Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.


I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.
 
2013-11-04 02:55:41 PM  

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.

My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.

Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?


Me and mine versus you and yours?
Bring it. See how it turns out.

Darwin always wins.
 
2013-11-04 02:56:26 PM  
Wild edibles are prevalent from July through October.  This guy isn't prepared for being out in the wild for so long if he didn't know that.
 
2013-11-04 02:57:02 PM  
Won't judge. Starvation would suck. Good thing it wasn't soccer players.
 
2013-11-04 02:57:10 PM  

GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.


This, very much this.
The dude was a flaming ass hat.
Even his family didn't report him missing for weeks.
 
2013-11-04 02:58:21 PM  

skozlaw: No, it's an acceptable amount of hate to heap on someone who put himself in a stupid situation through his own stupid choices. People tend not to respond kindly to people who get themselves, animal companions, family members and rescuers into bad situations by acting like cocksure jackasses.

If you don't want people to think you're a dumbass, don't do dumbass things like wander into the wilderness completely unprepared. It's like those idiots that


Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?  Do you think people who get robbed for their phones are to be blamed for getting robbed because they made stupid choices by owning a phone worth stealing?

I am just trying to figure out which victims you think it is ok to blame, and which victims are blameless.  I'm looking forward to your response.  I'm sure it will be thoughtful and not at all based on emotions centered on animals.
 
2013-11-04 02:58:36 PM  
Because only pussies carry personal locator beacons when venturing off alone into the woods for weeks on end.

=Smidge=
 
2013-11-04 03:02:28 PM  

GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.


If you ever have kids, I'm sure they'll  appreciate knowing that they are just as important to you as animals that sniff each other's buttholes and eat their own feces.  Be sure to remind your children of this constantly.  Let them know how much you care.
 
2013-11-04 03:03:14 PM  

metatronarchetype: Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-04 03:03:57 PM  
The dog...no... MY dog saves my life, there aint no way I would eat my dog before giving him a chance to chase something down for us to eat, and only after I tried eating the bark off of trees, roots, grass and perhaps bear poop.
My dog is family.

Your dog I would kill and share with my dog.
 
2013-11-04 03:06:02 PM  
This guy is my hero.
 
2013-11-04 03:06:58 PM  

metatronarchetype: I am just trying to figure out which victims you think it is ok to blame, and which victims are blameless.  I'm looking forward to your response.  I'm sure it will be thoughtful and not at all based on emotions centered on animals.


I would blame this guy who killed his dog, since it's pretty obvious that he went out into the woods to commit suicide, but chickened out and didn't have the guts to do it.
The story is full of enough holes that he's probably going to be under a psychiatric hold for a long time to come.

The fact that he ate his dog doesn't help his case any. The dog probably would have followed him to the end of the Earth until it dropped of exhaustion. The guy was a coward and a betrayer to that loyalty. Anyone with any sense or life experience knows this.
 
2013-11-04 03:07:53 PM  

karmaceutical: you_idiot: karmaceutical: I'll bet he brings a fishing rod next time...

yeah, I was thinking this... even if his fishing equipment was damaged in the attack, it's a fricken line and a hook

The rage in the comments is insane. So many assumptions. Idiots.

You'd think the guy was a card carrying PeTA member or something.

It is just a dog folks, get a grip.  It isn't even your dog.  People devour the flesh of a gabillion other animals every day when survival isn't even on the line.  How about a littler perspective?


It would have been hilarious if the bear had come back and eaten him after he ate his dog.
 
2013-11-04 03:08:03 PM  

metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.

If you ever have kids, I'm sure they'll  appreciate knowing that they are just as important to you as animals that sniff each other's buttholes and eat their own feces.  Be sure to remind your children of this constantly.  Let them know how much you care.


The world would be a much much better place if all parents would at LEAST treat their children with the same kindness and compassion as animal lovers treat their pets.  Humanity as a whole would improve leaps and bounds in that single instant.  It would do us wonders as a species if we were to make that the baseline, because where we are now in how a lot of parents treat their kids is way below how most pets are treated.
 
2013-11-04 03:08:22 PM  

skozlaw: metatronarchetype: Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?

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Yeah, the guy who says victim blaming is wrong is a troll.  Outstanding!
 
2013-11-04 03:09:45 PM  
I don't know if it's just because I know he killed his dog after it saved his life, but that guy has an *extremely* punchable face.
 
2013-11-04 03:12:56 PM  

robhidalgo: I don't know if it's just because I know he killed his dog after it saved his life, .


At least that's the douchebag's story.
I'm disinclined to believe the bear fairy tale coming from this guy.

I think this was just a failed suicide attempt.
 
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