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2013-11-04 01:28:13 PM  
Sad indeed.
 
2013-11-04 01:29:05 PM  
I'm gonna eat subby for sarting my day with that article : (
 
2013-11-04 01:29:48 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: I'm gonna eat subby for sarting my day with that article : (


starting*
 
2013-11-04 01:30:17 PM  
I'll bet he brings a fishing rod next time...
 
2013-11-04 01:30:32 PM  
Your dog *was* steak!
 
2013-11-04 01:31:48 PM  
Menchi!!
 
2013-11-04 01:32:31 PM  
He was delicious.
 
2013-11-04 01:32:32 PM  
Hmm... scumbag. I'm sorry he lived and I hope he dies badly, eaten by wolves maybe. Makes me sad to be the same species.
 
Skr
2013-11-04 01:32:37 PM  
Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.
 
2013-11-04 01:33:50 PM  
Again? This happened to him last week.

repeat thread.
 
2013-11-04 01:34:05 PM  
AGAIN??

/In before repeat
 
2013-11-04 01:34:46 PM  
AGAIN??

/In before repeat
 
2013-11-04 01:35:02 PM  
What, he forgot his pepper spray and bells?
 
2013-11-04 01:35:44 PM  
Was it a hot dog?
 
2013-11-04 01:36:09 PM  
Have to be honest, I don't think I could eat my dog or another person in a survival situation. And that's just if they croak on their own, no way I'd be able to kill my dog to survive. I'm just too sentimental to do it especially if the dog save my life.

I'm sure a week or so after I croaked my dog would start to munch down on my flesh. Atleast one of us would survive.
 
2013-11-04 01:36:24 PM  
Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.
 
2013-11-04 01:36:24 PM  
I didn't catch the first thread. Did he kill and eat two dogs maybe?
 
2013-11-04 01:36:32 PM  
Not sad.  Camper was a farking asshole.  I'm so angry I'm going to send the farkwit a letter.
 
2013-11-04 01:37:08 PM  
..... so this guy without any real planning decides to go for a trip in the woods - doesn't bring a bear bag to put all his food in (BASIC farkING CAMPING IN BEAR COUNTRY) and doesn't have any other method to procure food. Money says this dickcheese failed to even bring a first aid kit, signaling mirror or survival kit. He is beyond fortunate to be alive, planning that poorly should cost you your life.
 
2013-11-04 01:37:23 PM  
I don't know why

Agent Smiths Laugh: I'm gonna eat subby for sarting my day with that article : (


I'm pretty sure it makes me a horrible person for bursting out laughing at the article.
 
2013-11-04 01:37:53 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.


Yes, THIS.  This farkhead deserves some torment.
 
2013-11-04 01:38:47 PM  

powhound: I didn't catch the first thread. Did he kill and eat two dogs maybe?


It was one guy with six guns.
 
2013-11-04 01:38:50 PM  
The dog tasted like bark.
 
2013-11-04 01:39:18 PM  
Who goes on a fishing trip without a fishing pole? Honestly
 
2013-11-04 01:39:30 PM  
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Ran out of piss. Thinking of eating my dog.

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Or I could just order some St. Hubert's chicken with my goddamn satellite phone!
 
2013-11-04 01:40:16 PM  

uncleacid: The dog tasted like bark.

Booooooooo



/chicken
 
2013-11-04 01:41:08 PM  
Wow, no Asian jokes yet? Fark, I'm proud of you!
 
2013-11-04 01:43:11 PM  
Thank goodness he didn't bring his kid.
 
2013-11-04 01:43:46 PM  

powhound: I didn't catch the first thread. Did he kill and eat two dogs maybe?


Well the very first one that was greened didn't have any details and didn't mention the dog dinner.
 
2013-11-04 01:43:49 PM  
Of the two, the dog was the better man.
 
2013-11-04 01:43:54 PM  
1. I prefer death to killing and/or eating my Shepherd. He is far more respectable than I.

2. If my family waited weeks to declare me missing, I'd be getting a new family and sleeping very lightly.
 
2013-11-04 01:46:20 PM  

karmaceutical: I'll bet he brings a fishing rod next time...


yeah, I was thinking this... even if his fishing equipment was damaged in the attack, it's a fricken line and a hook

The rage in the comments is insane. So many assumptions. Idiots.
 
2013-11-04 01:46:58 PM  
A few days after the bear attack, Lavoie hit his dog with a rock and ate him.

Christ, what an asshole.  Hell if he had helped his dog kill the bear then both their food problems would have been taken care of for weeks.

What an absolute worthless human being.
 
2013-11-04 01:47:28 PM  

NutWrench: Your dog *was* steak!


Then who was phone?
 
2013-11-04 01:47:52 PM  
Wow...He waited a WHOLE few days before eating the dog.

Did he not have any other food with him on this 2 month trip?  Or think that maybe the dog could have found him food?

I'm sure this thread will be a thoughtful and reasoned debate...however I'm coming down on the he's an asshole side.  If it was a random dog sure, but his own.  The wrong animal walked out of that woods.
 
2013-11-04 01:47:59 PM  
No effing HERO tag?!!? (for the dog, ya dummy)
 
2013-11-04 01:48:33 PM  
This guy clearly doesn't understand what being thankful means. I personally am disgusted by his actions.

I would have found something else to eat aside from the animal that saved my life.
 
2013-11-04 01:49:36 PM  
You deserve what you get if you go into the wilderness without a satellite phone and/or a GPS device. That includes the idiot that had to saw off his arm with a pen knife.
 
2013-11-04 01:49:49 PM  

gnosis301: NutWrench: Your dog *was* steak!

Then who was phone?


+1 funnay. Good jerb, well court, noicly handled.
 
2013-11-04 01:49:56 PM  
Poor dog trusted him up to the very end too, I'd bet.
 
2013-11-04 01:50:05 PM  
Also I have to add to the "won't kill my dog" list.  Not gonna happen.  She can eat me if I die I don't care.

I haven't gone camping in ages but on such a remote trip, how do you  have A) no means of emergency signalling, B) no means to get food (rifle, knife, fishing pole) C) no means to orient yourself and navigate (I'm planning to go stay in the woods oops I got lost in the woods) and D) no plan to get the fark out of dodge?  This dude seems like he was tragically unprepared for this sort of thing, unless he was attempting to pretend he was on one of those survival shows.
 
2013-11-04 01:51:33 PM  

you_idiot: karmaceutical: I'll bet he brings a fishing rod next time...

yeah, I was thinking this... even if his fishing equipment was damaged in the attack, it's a fricken line and a hook

The rage in the comments is insane. So many assumptions. Idiots.


You'd think the guy was a card carrying PeTA member or something.

It is just a dog folks, get a grip.  It isn't even your dog.  People devour the flesh of a gabillion other animals every day when survival isn't even on the line.  How about a littler perspective?
 
2013-11-04 01:53:29 PM  
If I ever go on a canoeing trip, I am going to bring along a cow and a recording of a German Shepherd.
 
2013-11-04 01:55:32 PM  

MatrixOutsider: You deserve what you get if you go into the wilderness without a satellite phone and/or a GPS device. That includes the idiot that had to saw off his arm with a pen knife.


Or an ELT device, which isn't much more expensive than a ruggedized GPS receiver.

/Would never eat my dog.
//And I'm not even a dog person.
 
2013-11-04 01:58:30 PM  
If he had stood on a tree stump and started jacking off someone would have showed up out of nowhere and he could have been rescued.

/Old lost- in-woods survival trick
 
2013-11-04 02:00:11 PM  
I love the people posting from the safety of their own home, where there is food, condemning the man for doing what he had to in order to survive.

Until you are starving to death, you don't know what you would do in that situation.
 
2013-11-04 02:01:33 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Again? This happened to him last week.

repeat thread.


The details on the dog are new. And sad.
 
2013-11-04 02:01:45 PM  
Dogs are not people. Sad for the dog. I have 3. I know which one would be first.
 
2013-11-04 02:03:36 PM  
Oh look it's this idiot again.
 
2013-11-04 02:06:16 PM  
I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.
 
2013-11-04 02:07:53 PM  
www.filmjunk.com
This is why you take your dog and a woman when you go camping.
Well, I'd certainly say she had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.
 
2013-11-04 02:07:58 PM  
It's sad, but christ, you people here who think he should have starved to death rather than kill his dog are  farking nuts.
 
2013-11-04 02:08:16 PM  
Sorry but pretty much everyone upthread would probably kill and eat whatever they could of it was that or their own death.  Easy to post it from your computer chair in your office but when you're facing your own mortality you might think differently about how much you love Lassie.

/my solution is to just not wander into the wilderness alone
//love my pets
 
2013-11-04 02:08:52 PM  
Booooooooo!!!!!!

/thumbs down
 
2013-11-04 02:09:11 PM  
In all seriousness though... If I were going to be out in the backcountry for that long I'd at least have a SPOT locator with me.  If nothing else, so everyone back home could check in and see my progress on what must be an epic trip.
 
2013-11-04 02:11:41 PM  
eat your dog and maybe live for weeks BUT

TEACH YOUR DOG TO HUNT!!! and both live for months.

ya know its kinda their instinct.
 
2013-11-04 02:12:20 PM  
If I had run out of all options, I would eat my dog, my neighbor's dog and if still hungry.... my neighbors as well.
 
2013-11-04 02:14:40 PM  
From the linked article in TFA:

"When you start to go hungry, you get mood swings, your mind breaks, and you cramp up all over your body. Eventually, your body will start cannibalizing itself, eating away at the fat in your organs and then in your muscles. It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that," he added.

I'm willing to bet a good number of people who claim they would 'never' do something, if they found themselves in this type of situation, just might end up doing that something.  I'd be willing to bet that the people who resorted to cannibalism when they were stranded had thought it was a repulsive and unconscionable act before they were stranded; fighting for survival can make normal people do some crazy stuff.

Also: a bit more humorous take on this.
 
2013-11-04 02:15:14 PM  

China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.


This story has been reported by multiple outlets, some more informative than others.  My personal favorites have referred to him as "an experienced wilderness man".  An "experienced wilderness man" would know what foliage to consume, as well as how to fish or capture small game.
 
2013-11-04 02:15:58 PM  
I wonder at what point the classic cartoon scene happened where the camper was looking at the dog and all he saw was a large T-Bone steak. Meanwhile, the dog is looking back at him like, "John? You ok??"
 
2013-11-04 02:16:33 PM  

China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.


Except for this: A few days after the bear attack, Lavoie hit his dog with a rock and ate him.

Unless you're going to tell me that since they didn't specifically say he ate "the dog", then man hit his dog with a rock and then ate the rock.
 
2013-11-04 02:16:37 PM  
Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.
 
2013-11-04 02:17:20 PM  
I have been without food for 5 days. I would eat deer shiat, worms, inner bark of trees, anything else but not my dog.

Hunger hurts, but what we do with that pain separates us from animals.

It takes weeks for a well fed person to die of hunger. Water, only days. He should have been more human and less of a worthless hyena and dealt with hunger.

A few days was not killing him. Hell, the whole 3 weeks eating nothing but bugs and worms would not have killed him and chances are that the dog's hunger would have gotten it to catch or dig something up.

Worthless weakling. The wrong animal walked out alive.
 
2013-11-04 02:17:44 PM  

metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.


Citation needed.
 
2013-11-04 02:20:46 PM  
Despite what some of you say, I would never kill my dog to survive...never ever. I would freakin' kill myself first if it came to that. And dog "lovers" who say otherwise are anything but. I couldn't live with myself if I killed my dog just to survive. F'that! I'd rather die and hope my dog would make it outta the woods back to someone with more brains than me! I'd only kill my dog if she/he was crippled and in pain  and I couldn't carry her/him any longer and even THAT would be the most difficult thing I'd ever do. Part of choosing life is the QUALITY of one's life and if the only way I can survive is to kill a member of my pack, than screw it. Guess it's lights out. I had a good run. I can accept it.
 
2013-11-04 02:21:05 PM  

machoprogrammer: I love the people posting from the safety of their own home, where there is food, condemning the man for doing what he had to in order to survive.

Until you are starving to death, you don't know what you would do in that situation.


And the best way to handle this was to have a gun to shoot the bear with. Then the anti gun and anti hunting people would've still been outraged. Likely the same people.
 
2013-11-04 02:21:36 PM  
He survived because he made good decisions

Good decision #1: wandering ill-prepared into the Canadian wilderness like a farking retard.

metatronarchetype: People matter more than dogs.


Mmmm....

i.qkme.me
 
2013-11-04 02:22:42 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: From the linked article in TFA:

"When you start to go hungry, you get mood swings, your mind breaks, and you cramp up all over your body. Eventually, your body will start cannibalizing itself, eating away at the fat in your organs and then in your muscles. It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that," he added.

I'm willing to bet a good number of people who claim they would 'never' do something, if they found themselves in this type of situation, just might end up doing that something.  I'd be willing to bet that the people who resorted to cannibalism when they were stranded had thought it was a repulsive and unconscionable act before they were stranded; fighting for survival can make normal people do some crazy stuff.

Also: a bit more humorous take on this.


One of the best books on the topic... Alive.  Famous story, crappy movie and all... the book strips away the drama and deals directly with crux of survival.  I thought about humanity differently after reading that book, great read.
 
2013-11-04 02:23:41 PM  
media.animevice.com
 
2013-11-04 02:24:37 PM  
All the dog haters here who are cheering on the dog eater should never be allowed into a pack.  A pride maybe.  Cats eat each other without a problem.  You must all be cat people.


I know I wouldnt eat my dogs, I wouldnt have to.  One of them would be bringing me a dead animal every hour on the hour, sometimes old and rank, sometimes fresh.  It may not be pretty but there would be plenty to eat.  In a half acre back yard he kills at least 4 squirrels and a couple birds a week.  In a forest, we would feast like kings.  Peasant kings but kings none the less.

This guy wasnt in a desert, he was in the Canadian wilderness.  Even in the winter it is full food.  He is not a hero like some of you are claiming.  He's not a survivalist.  He's just an asshole in a situation he had no business being in that he got himself into.  He definitely does not deserve a dog, but he took care of that.  He has no business being anywhere near a forest let alone the wild.  Honestly he should be forcibly relocated to a shiat hole like Detroit where can use his credit card to to buy food and avoid the packs of roaming street dogs.

We should be thankful that he wasnt camping with a small child for him to eat.  What an asshole.
 
2013-11-04 02:24:39 PM  
Wicked comment about Manimal cracked me up large.
 
2013-11-04 02:25:51 PM  

scottydoesntknow: China White Tea: I like all of the outrage based on wholly imagined details that don't appear anywhere in the story.

Except for this: A few days after the bear attack, Lavoie hit his dog with a rock and ate him.

Unless you're going to tell me that since they didn't specifically say he ate "the dog", then man hit his dog with a rock and then ate the rock.


That's the subject, not a "detail" - that you couldn't sort that out in the first place makes me believe that it would probably be futile trying to aid you in differentiating between the two.

But since we're here, you're implying... what?  That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?
 
2013-11-04 02:34:06 PM  
"He survived because he made good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," Andre Francois Bourbeau, a survival expert, told

Perhaps a good decision would have been taking a field radio into the wild so that if something unpredicted happened, like saying attacked by a bear, he'd be able to contact help.
 
2013-11-04 02:36:28 PM  

metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.


My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.
 
2013-11-04 02:39:42 PM  
Damn that had to be a tough call and even harder to do.

Holy crap.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:02 PM  

China White Tea: That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?


Sure there is, for instance to feed my starving and isolated family when there is nothing else.  Not likely unless were isolated in the house and unable to forage/loot food however since the dogs would be far more useful in procurring food and securing the family than they would as a very temporary protein source.  I honestly would sooner eat a stranger and feed him to my family, the dogs would easily help with that.  Either finding a fresh body or taking down a random stranger.  You could live for a couple weeks off the meat from a 150lb human once properly processed.  A 60lb dog? Maybe a week or two.  A dod would happily chew up the bones and eat the skin (long pig crackalins, getting hungry) that you would be unable to process.  Dogs are incredibly useful for our survival.  We have genetically engineered them to be our perfect survival companion.  Why in the hell would we reduce them to what we have engineered cattle to be?

Well except chihuahua's.  Those bastards were actually meant to be food.  But can you imagine how many rats and mice those lil suckers could bring you in a day once they are properly motivated.  Hell even a cat could theoretically keep you alive on the spare crap it catches, assuming you could get it to give a fark about you.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:46 PM  

hitlersbrain: Hmm... scumbag. I'm sorry he lived and I hope he dies badly, eaten by wolves maybe. Makes me sad to be the same species.


Wow, that is a whole lot of hate to heap on another human was did something in desperation.

It's sad to see.
 
2013-11-04 02:40:50 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.

My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.


Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?
 
2013-11-04 02:45:34 PM  
The closest I've ever come to this was having to collect rainwater with a plastic tarp and rip some bark off of a bunch of trees looking for little grubs to eat. I survived, but I think it really weirded out the other people in the shopping center.
 
2013-11-04 02:46:34 PM  

metatronarchetype: Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?


Says the guy pleading for humanity by calling everyone else idiots.

SpectroBoy: Wow, that is a whole lot of hate to heap on another human was did something in desperation.


No, it's an acceptable amount of hate to heap on someone who put himself in a stupid situation through his own stupid choices. People tend not to respond kindly to people who get themselves, animal companions, family members and rescuers into bad situations by acting like cocksure jackasses.

If you don't want people to think you're a dumbass, don't do dumbass things like wander into the wilderness completely unprepared. It's like those idiots that try to climb steep mountains without appropriate training and then put rescuers at risk trying to get their stupid asses off of it.

The gene pool would be much improved by leaving them - and this guy - to the consequences of their own poor choices.
 
2013-11-04 02:48:25 PM  
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2013-11-04 02:49:24 PM  
good dog
 
2013-11-04 02:50:09 PM  

Electromax: Sorry but pretty much everyone upthread would probably kill and eat whatever they could of it was that or their own death.  Easy to post it from your computer chair in your office but when you're facing your own mortality you might think differently about how much you love Lassie.

/my solution is to just not wander into the wilderness alone
//love my pets


I wouldn't be stupid enough to voluntarily take my dog with me if there was any chance of being put in a situation where it'd be them or me.  That's why he deserved to die rather than the dog.  It was his choice, the dog just went along for the ride.
 
2013-11-04 02:55:23 PM  

Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.


I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.
 
2013-11-04 02:55:41 PM  

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Dear idiots,

People matter more than dogs.

My dog matters more to me than most people and in a passive survival situation I would act accordingly.

Congratulations on having your priorities backwards, I guess?


Me and mine versus you and yours?
Bring it. See how it turns out.

Darwin always wins.
 
2013-11-04 02:56:26 PM  
Wild edibles are prevalent from July through October.  This guy isn't prepared for being out in the wild for so long if he didn't know that.
 
2013-11-04 02:57:02 PM  
Won't judge. Starvation would suck. Good thing it wasn't soccer players.
 
2013-11-04 02:57:10 PM  

GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.


This, very much this.
The dude was a flaming ass hat.
Even his family didn't report him missing for weeks.
 
2013-11-04 02:58:21 PM  

skozlaw: No, it's an acceptable amount of hate to heap on someone who put himself in a stupid situation through his own stupid choices. People tend not to respond kindly to people who get themselves, animal companions, family members and rescuers into bad situations by acting like cocksure jackasses.

If you don't want people to think you're a dumbass, don't do dumbass things like wander into the wilderness completely unprepared. It's like those idiots that


Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?  Do you think people who get robbed for their phones are to be blamed for getting robbed because they made stupid choices by owning a phone worth stealing?

I am just trying to figure out which victims you think it is ok to blame, and which victims are blameless.  I'm looking forward to your response.  I'm sure it will be thoughtful and not at all based on emotions centered on animals.
 
2013-11-04 02:58:36 PM  
Because only pussies carry personal locator beacons when venturing off alone into the woods for weeks on end.

=Smidge=
 
2013-11-04 03:02:28 PM  

GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.


If you ever have kids, I'm sure they'll  appreciate knowing that they are just as important to you as animals that sniff each other's buttholes and eat their own feces.  Be sure to remind your children of this constantly.  Let them know how much you care.
 
2013-11-04 03:03:14 PM  

metatronarchetype: Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-11-04 03:03:57 PM  
The dog...no... MY dog saves my life, there aint no way I would eat my dog before giving him a chance to chase something down for us to eat, and only after I tried eating the bark off of trees, roots, grass and perhaps bear poop.
My dog is family.

Your dog I would kill and share with my dog.
 
2013-11-04 03:06:02 PM  
This guy is my hero.
 
2013-11-04 03:06:58 PM  

metatronarchetype: I am just trying to figure out which victims you think it is ok to blame, and which victims are blameless.  I'm looking forward to your response.  I'm sure it will be thoughtful and not at all based on emotions centered on animals.


I would blame this guy who killed his dog, since it's pretty obvious that he went out into the woods to commit suicide, but chickened out and didn't have the guts to do it.
The story is full of enough holes that he's probably going to be under a psychiatric hold for a long time to come.

The fact that he ate his dog doesn't help his case any. The dog probably would have followed him to the end of the Earth until it dropped of exhaustion. The guy was a coward and a betrayer to that loyalty. Anyone with any sense or life experience knows this.
 
2013-11-04 03:07:53 PM  

karmaceutical: you_idiot: karmaceutical: I'll bet he brings a fishing rod next time...

yeah, I was thinking this... even if his fishing equipment was damaged in the attack, it's a fricken line and a hook

The rage in the comments is insane. So many assumptions. Idiots.

You'd think the guy was a card carrying PeTA member or something.

It is just a dog folks, get a grip.  It isn't even your dog.  People devour the flesh of a gabillion other animals every day when survival isn't even on the line.  How about a littler perspective?


It would have been hilarious if the bear had come back and eaten him after he ate his dog.
 
2013-11-04 03:08:03 PM  

metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.

If you ever have kids, I'm sure they'll  appreciate knowing that they are just as important to you as animals that sniff each other's buttholes and eat their own feces.  Be sure to remind your children of this constantly.  Let them know how much you care.


The world would be a much much better place if all parents would at LEAST treat their children with the same kindness and compassion as animal lovers treat their pets.  Humanity as a whole would improve leaps and bounds in that single instant.  It would do us wonders as a species if we were to make that the baseline, because where we are now in how a lot of parents treat their kids is way below how most pets are treated.
 
2013-11-04 03:08:22 PM  

skozlaw: metatronarchetype: Do you think girls who get raped when they drink too much at parties are to blamed for getting raped because they made stupid choices to get drunk?

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Yeah, the guy who says victim blaming is wrong is a troll.  Outstanding!
 
2013-11-04 03:09:45 PM  
I don't know if it's just because I know he killed his dog after it saved his life, but that guy has an *extremely* punchable face.
 
2013-11-04 03:12:56 PM  

robhidalgo: I don't know if it's just because I know he killed his dog after it saved his life, .


At least that's the douchebag's story.
I'm disinclined to believe the bear fairy tale coming from this guy.

I think this was just a failed suicide attempt.
 
2013-11-04 03:14:48 PM  

metatronarchetype: Yeah, the guy who says victim blaming is wrong is a troll. Outstanding!


Well, if it's any consolation to you, you're not that good at it.
 
2013-11-04 03:16:49 PM  

metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: Skr: Hit with a rock eh? Sad indeed. Wouldn't do that myself. I'd look for other food sources or starve.

I may be stupid for it and would probably end up dead, but I'm with you.

I'd probably eat one of my dogs about the same time as most parents would eat one of their children.  Meaning never.

If you ever have kids, I'm sure they'll  appreciate knowing that they are just as important to you as animals that sniff each other's buttholes and eat their own feces.  Be sure to remind your children of this constantly.  Let them know how much you care.


My animals are my children.

Human children (which I won't be having) are annoying as hell, disrespectful, disease ridden, and break shiat.  You can keep them for yourself AFAIC.
 
2013-11-04 03:19:47 PM  
Am I right that this experienced woodsman, with a canoe in his possession, couldn't figure out how to get out of a bad situation?

I've gone backpacking with my dog a couple times, and one of the first times, I trusted the field guide about the availability of water at the end of a 12-mile trek. Showed up to find a dried up spring with the sun almost set and my hydration pack down to nothing...BAD planning, and this was here in Arizona. I had to turn around and hike my way out, almost entirely uphill, in the dark, but I have to give credit where it's due: my dog would run up ahead, turn around and just give me the most incredible "Are you coming or what?" look, then as soon as I'd catch up, he'd jog another 1/8 mile ahead and wait for me. That was one of the roughest, ridiculous things I've ever done, but if it weren't for my dog, I may have very well been in a world of hurt.
 
2013-11-04 03:21:59 PM  
Am i the only who thinks you could take a really hungry dog, point it at a squirrel and say "get it".....and then maybe share some??  I just don't see how you have to eat your dog, especially when the dog saved your life!  I wish the bear had ate the guy and the dog got saved.  Am I a horrible person, yes I am.  But the guy was an idiot and his dog just went along because he trusted the idiot.
 
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2013-11-04 03:22:17 PM  

orclover: Cats eat each other without a problem. You must all be cat people.


Uh, just for the record canines are JUST as prone to cannibalism as felines.
No, I will not link cites, go google it yourself, lazy-bones. It's very well documented.
 
2013-11-04 03:23:40 PM  
FTA link to the Toronto Sun article on the same story:

Survival expert Andre Francois Bourbeau said Lavoie did what he could to live.
"He survived because he made ‹good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," said Bourbeau, author of a survival guide.
Bourbeau has researched hundreds of similar stories, some of which include cannibalism.
"You have to be desperate, but there's no shame in (eating the dog)," said Bourbeau. "He had to use reason."
 
2013-11-04 03:25:24 PM  
I wouldn't rule out eating my dog, even though I am an animal lover, but I'd sure as hell try to find food a little longer than a few days before I did it.
 
2013-11-04 03:26:14 PM  
Really, It took THIS long???

Fine.....I'll do it.


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2013-11-04 03:26:40 PM  

George Babbitt: FTA link to the Toronto Sun article on the same story:

Survival expert Andre Francois Bourbeau said Lavoie did what he could to live.
"He survived because he made ‹good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," said Bourbeau, author of a survival guide.
Bourbeau has researched hundreds of similar stories, some of which include cannibalism.
"You have to be desperate, but there's no shame in (eating the dog)," said Bourbeau. "He had to use reason."


See dog lovers?  Even EXPERTS agree that you're foolish retards.

GanjSmokr: My animals are my children.


No, your animals are not your children.  They are your pets.  The fact that you think that your animal pets are your children indicates you probably shouldn't be allowed pets or children, because you are mentally ill.
 
2013-11-04 03:29:48 PM  

skozlaw: Good decision #1: wandering ill-prepared into the Canadian wilderness like a farking retard.


He wasn't ill-prepared. FTFA, "Lavoie is an experienced hiker who often spent weeks in the wilderness by himself."
 
2013-11-04 03:31:37 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Agent Smiths Laugh: I'm gonna eat subby for sarting my day with that article : (

starting*


*sharting
 
2013-11-04 03:31:59 PM  

metatronarchetype: See dog lovers?  Even EXPERTS agree that you're foolish retards.


Since it was an alleged EXPERT who got lost for three months in rugged terrain, I'd say that the last laugh was on him.
And in Quebec?
Pullease spare me the drama.
This guy was an idiot.
Nothing more.

No sane person would put himself in that kind of position.
 
2013-11-04 03:32:45 PM  
The need for food and the length of time you can go without changes depending on the climate that you are in. Hot climate means that water is more important and your body doesn't need food to generate heat, or in the case of this man, who was in a cold climate, would need food earlier and more frequently.
 
2013-11-04 03:34:26 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: See dog lovers?  Even EXPERTS agree that you're foolish retards.

Since it was an alleged EXPERT who got lost for three months in rugged terrain, I'd say that the last laugh was on him.
And in Quebec?
Pullease spare me the drama.
This guy was an idiot.
Nothing more.

No sane person would put himself in that kind of position.


RTFA, the man who lost all his gear and food that he reasonably prepared for another of his many treks into the wilderness was experienced, and the man they spoke to about this trek for the article was the expert.
 
2013-11-04 03:34:34 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: See dog lovers?  Even EXPERTS agree that you're foolish retards.

Since it was an alleged EXPERT who got lost for three months in rugged terrain, I'd say that the last laugh was on him.
And in Quebec?
Pullease spare me the drama.
This guy was an idiot.
Nothing more.

No sane person would put himself in that kind of position.


No sane person would think of dogs as children, but here we are...
 
2013-11-04 03:36:35 PM  

metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: My animals are my children.

No, your animals are not your children.  They are your pets.  The fact that you think that your animal pets are your children indicates you probably shouldn't be allowed pets or children, because you are mentally ill.


I'm terribly hurt by your words,  metatronarchetype.  The fact that you don't approve of my feelings for my dogs is, for lack of a better term, crushing.

You see, I can only exist by receiving affirmations about how I live from random people on fark.  Usually this goes well and I have a happy day.  Your harsh words have impacted me both mentally and physically and now I do not know what to do.  Please tell me you approve of me!  Please tell me you like me!!  If you don't, I honestly don't know what I'll do.
 
2013-11-04 03:37:53 PM  

GanjSmokr: metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: My animals are my children.

No, your animals are not your children.  They are your pets.  The fact that you think that your animal pets are your children indicates you probably shouldn't be allowed pets or children, because you are mentally ill.

I'm terribly hurt by your words,  metatronarchetype.  The fact that you don't approve of my feelings for my dogs is, for lack of a better term, crushing.

You see, I can only exist by receiving affirmations about how I live from random people on fark.  Usually this goes well and I have a happy day.  Your harsh words have impacted me both mentally and physically and now I do not know what to do.  Please tell me you approve of me!  Please tell me you like me!!  If you don't, I honestly don't know what I'll do.


Thought that was why you bought your friends Rover and Trixie?
 
2013-11-04 03:37:55 PM  
I hope you get cancer.
 
2013-11-04 03:38:18 PM  
He couldn't have caught some fish?

Just sayin'. I mean, I guess he made the right call, but ...
 
2013-11-04 03:39:14 PM  

redsquid: [www.filmjunk.com image 500x271]
This is why you take your dog and a woman when you go camping.
Well, I'd certainly say she had marvelous judgment, Albert, if not particularly good taste.


lol, I loved that flick.  I think I'm gonna go back and watch it tonight.
 
2013-11-04 03:42:58 PM  

George Babbitt: RTFA, the man who lost all his gear and food that he reasonably prepared for another of his many treks into the wilderness was experienced, and the man they spoke to about this trek for the article was the expert.


Read the Toronto paper article.
Any experienced outdoorsman always has a plan for self-rescue at every point in an adventure.
It was written that the bear destroyed his boat and took his food.
Well, damn, guess he'd better eat the dog instead of trying to get the fark out of there.
He was 300 miles northwest of Montreal and probably not more than 100 miles from a human outpost of some kind, at most.

A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day, which would have put help between five and 10 days away, at most. All he had to do was walk toward town and his dog would have followed him there.

But stupid is as stupid does. Even the local Cree Indians advised him against his cunning plan.
/Stupid white people problems.
 
2013-11-04 03:44:09 PM  

George Babbitt: GanjSmokr: metatronarchetype: GanjSmokr: My animals are my children.

No, your animals are not your children.  They are your pets.  The fact that you think that your animal pets are your children indicates you probably shouldn't be allowed pets or children, because you are mentally ill.

I'm terribly hurt by your words,  metatronarchetype.  The fact that you don't approve of my feelings for my dogs is, for lack of a better term, crushing.

You see, I can only exist by receiving affirmations about how I live from random people on fark.  Usually this goes well and I have a happy day.  Your harsh words have impacted me both mentally and physically and now I do not know what to do.  Please tell me you approve of me!  Please tell me you like me!!  If you don't, I honestly don't know what I'll do.

Thought that was why you bought your friends Rover and Trixie?


They lick the tears from my face on days like this when mean people on fark make me sad.
 
2013-11-04 03:45:17 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day, which would have put help between five and 10 days away, at most. All he had to do was walk toward town and his dog would have followed him there.


A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.
 
2013-11-04 03:45:27 PM  
Plus, he could have walked toward Provincial Highway 109, which leads him straight to the nearest town, Matagami, for the win.

But no. He stayed for the drama and the dog sushi.
 
2013-11-04 03:45:44 PM  
GanjSmokr:

My animals are my children.

Human children (which I won't be having) are annoying as hell, disrespectful, disease ridden, and break shiat.  You can keep them for yourself AFAIC.


Dude, I love animals (2 dogs, 2 cats, looking for a 5th) but if you think animals can't be annoying, sick, or break things I don't really believe you have any. I hope you aren't one of those animal owners like my neighbor down the street, who wouldn't keep her dogs leashed in the yard and they got put down by the city after chasing joggers every morning for months and biting 3 on our street. She was just  aghastthat her little snowballs could do that to the mean pedestrians who MUST'VE been asking for it. But of course, getting a fence or a leash was canine waterboarding.

No better than precious snowflake parents, that lot.
 
2013-11-04 03:45:48 PM  

metatronarchetype: I hope you get cancer.


Theres a reasonable human being for ya.

/can you eat a tumor? I mean like for survival?
 
2013-11-04 03:46:45 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day


On flat ground? Yes. Through rough wooded terrain? No.
 
2013-11-04 03:47:26 PM  

orclover: metatronarchetype: I hope you get cancer.

Theres a reasonable human being for ya.

/can you eat a tumor? I mean like for survival?


That guy on the X-Files needed them to live.  So yeah, you can eat tumors and some people actually will die if they do not.
 
2013-11-04 03:49:18 PM  

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day, which would have put help between five and 10 days away, at most. All he had to do was walk toward town and his dog would have followed him there.

A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.


The furthest I've ever walked in a day is just short of 23 miles.
And that place is full of water.
He hand plenty.
I could walk 10 miles before lunch without food and so could someone looking to save himself.
Also, the place is full of plants to eat as a food substitute.
He could probably have swum or forded the river and made it to the highway easily had he had his wits about him.
 
2013-11-04 03:49:24 PM  
I'm not an outdoorsman or a camper or anything like that, but if a bear ate all his food, why did he just sit there and do nothing? Forget for a moment that he could have fished or foraged for more food, why didn't he just head for home? I know you die immediately without food, so why didn't he just start walking back towards civilization? He'd surely be able to walk a few miles a day for a few days before starvation left him too weak to continue. What the hell was his plan if the bear DIDN'T eat all his food? How was he planning on getting home?

This seems like a guy with a bad plan, no skills, no forethought, who got in over his head and did everything wrong form start to finish. Whatever future misfortune comes his way, I think he should remember that he earned it.
 
2013-11-04 03:51:59 PM  

George Babbitt: HotIgneous Intruder: A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day

On flat ground? Yes. Through rough wooded terrain? No.


Ten miles IN rough wooded terrain.
At a minimum, moving from dawn to dusk in the north woods?
He couldn't walk eight-tenths of a mile per hour?
For the experienced outdoorsman he was reputed to be?

I call B.S. He went out there to die.
 
2013-11-04 03:52:36 PM  
There is a big chunk of this story missing.
He was out there for 3 months, and during that time, he had to eat his dog.  What the hell was he eating the rest of the time?  What happened to ALL of his equipment that it was ruined?  He had a canoe.  So, presumably, he was near water.  Water contains fish.  In Canada, LOTS of fish.  How far downriver was the nearest town?  Why could he not simply repair his canoe and go for a float?  Wasn't that his idea anyway?  What was his original plan?  Canoe for a while, and walk home?

So many things here are woefully wrong and stupid.  The fact that he ate his dog is only one of the things wrong.
It almost sounds like his original plan was to eat the dog and complain about it later.  People would never accept him doing that at home.
 
2013-11-04 03:54:09 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: A reasonably fit person can walk at least 10 miles per day, which would have put help between five and 10 days away, at most. All he had to do was walk toward town and his dog would have followed him there.

A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.

The furthest I've ever walked in a day is just short of 23 miles.
And that place is full of water.
He hand plenty.
I could walk 10 miles before lunch without food and so could someone looking to save himself.
Also, the place is full of plants to eat as a food substitute.
He could probably have swum or forded the river and made it to the highway easily had he had his wits about him.


I'm sure you pulled off this amazing feat with no food of any sort too, right?  Liar.
 
2013-11-04 03:54:43 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: He could probably have swum or forded the river


Again, FTFA: "the Nottaway River is considered too dangerous even for the hardiest outdoorsmen."
 
2013-11-04 03:57:13 PM  

metatronarchetype: A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.


You're probably Cheeto-fed and can't walk very far anyway, so your perspective is understandable.
Note that I said a reasonably fit person, not an internet homunculus.
 
2013-11-04 03:57:39 PM  
The number of people relying on the a shiatty Gawker article to get a handle on this story when there is a well written article(compared to anything from GAwker) over at the Toronto Sun which fills in all that people are clamoring for.(excepting the judgmental lynch-mob attitude)
 
2013-11-04 03:59:22 PM  

Electromax: GanjSmokr:

My animals are my children.

Human children (which I won't be having) are annoying as hell, disrespectful, disease ridden, and break shiat.  You can keep them for yourself AFAIC.

Dude, I love animals (2 dogs, 2 cats, looking for a 5th) but if you think animals can't be annoying, sick, or break things I don't really believe you have any. I hope you aren't one of those animal owners like my neighbor down the street, who wouldn't keep her dogs leashed in the yard and they got put down by the city after chasing joggers every morning for months and biting 3 on our street. She was just  aghastthat her little snowballs could do that to the mean pedestrians who MUST'VE been asking for it. But of course, getting a fence or a leash was canine waterboarding.

No better than precious snowflake parents, that lot.


My dogs have never gotten me sick, nor do they annoy me.  Can't say that about my nieces or the children of my friends.

And it may be tough to believe, but my dogs don't break shiat, either.  Sorry if yours do, but mine don't.  They don't get leashed in the yard - they have full access to the house and a doggy door to let them into their fenced yard whenever they want.

/your neighbor down the street sounds like a irresponsible douchebag and it's too bad her pets were the ones that had to suffer.
 
2013-11-04 04:00:44 PM  
From the CNN article that is also linked "Up there, in the Canadian shield, there's little plant life to live off, so he would have been slowly, painfully dying when they found him." To answer all the internet hiking champions shouting that he should have foraged for sustenance.
 
2013-11-04 04:01:13 PM  
Reasonably fit people still need food.  Actually, the more exertion you undertake, the more food you will need regardless of your physical fitness level.  It's simple physics.  Expended energy needs to be replaced with something; you can't just decide to be tougher than hunger.

I'd also like to point out that for someone such as yourself who seems to know everything about wilderness survival and overland hiking, you seem to forget that the first rule of being lost in the woods is to sit tight.  Trying to walk your way out is universally considered a bad idea.  Moving around makes you harder to find, and burns precious calories that you need food to replace.

So, you're a liar and you're ignorant.  Good job!
 
2013-11-04 04:01:34 PM  

metatronarchetype: I'm sure you pulled off this amazing feat with no food of any sort too, right?  Liar.


Note that name calling violates the terms of service of fark and you are now in violation of those terms.

I'm an experienced outdoorsman and long-distance hiker.
Starting from start, when the bear ate my homework, and I survived courtesy of the dog, I would have made tracks instantly toward town. You can navigate across just about any body of water using logs to float on top of. You have to go all animal and it won't be comfortable, but if you want to live, oh yes, it's totally doable.

I could walk 20 right now to save my life or my kids' lives. Or my dog's life, for that matter.
This guy was just stupid.
 
2013-11-04 04:02:13 PM  
Also from the CNN article "
At some point during a planned two-month canoe trek in the Lake Matagami area, a bear attacked Lavoie's campsite, eating his food and ruining his equipment, police spokeswoman Christine Coulombe said.
The bear did not injure Lavoie but left him without the tools or resources to survive. Police say they have yet to speak with Lavoie to get details."

The authorities could discern all these things, and they haven't even spoke to Lavoie yet.
 
2013-11-04 04:04:16 PM  

durbnpoisn: There is a big chunk of this story missing.
He was out there for 3 months, and during that time, he had to eat his dog.  What the hell was he eating the rest of the time?  What happened to ALL of his equipment that it was ruined?  He had a canoe.  So, presumably, he was near water.  Water contains fish.  In Canada, LOTS of fish.  How far downriver was the nearest town?  Why could he not simply repair his canoe and go for a float?  Wasn't that his idea anyway?  What was his original plan?  Canoe for a while, and walk home?

So many things here are woefully wrong and stupid.  The fact that he ate his dog is only one of the things wrong.
It almost sounds like his original plan was to eat the dog and complain about it later.  People would never accept him doing that at home.


Or at least fashioned the remains of his canoe into some kind of paragliding device.  He could have harnessed a pair of freshwater dolphins and glided back to civilization.  What a moron.
 
2013-11-04 04:06:18 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: I'm sure you pulled off this amazing feat with no food of any sort too, right?  Liar.

Note that name calling violates the terms of service of fark and you are now in violation of those terms.

I'm an experienced outdoorsman and long-distance hiker.
Starting from start, when the bear ate my homework, and I survived courtesy of the dog, I would have made tracks instantly toward town. You can navigate across just about any body of water using logs to float on top of. You have to go all animal and it won't be comfortable, but if you want to live, oh yes, it's totally doable.

I could walk 20 right now to save my life or my kids' lives. Or my dog's life, for that matter.
This guy was just stupid.


I don't believe you are an experienced outdoorsman or long-distance hiker.  I do believe that you are a liar when you claim as such.  You have demonstrated no understanding of the situation that a true experienced outdoorsman and hiker would demonstrate, such as the fact that hiking out in such situations is ill-advised due to the reasons I have mentioned earlier in the thread.  If you feel that I am breaking some rules behind which you would like to hide by calling you a liar, feel free to report me to the authorities so they may protect you from the bad man on the internet who calls your bullshiat what it is.  Liar.
 
2013-11-04 04:06:38 PM  

GanjSmokr: Sorry if yours do, but mine don't.


Nah, was mostly just a sarcastic response to the idea that because your dogs are preferable to children, that makes every animal preferable to every child. Plenty of children aren't the problem child you are picturing when you think "a child".

I'm not planning on having any either, but mostly because I'm selfish.
 
2013-11-04 04:07:47 PM  

metatronarchetype: Reasonably fit people still need food.  Actually, the more exertion you undertake, the more food you will need regardless of your physical fitness level.  It's simple physics.  Expended energy needs to be replaced with something; you can't just decide to be tougher than hunger.

I'd also like to point out that for someone such as yourself who seems to know everything about wilderness survival and overland hiking, you seem to forget that the first rule of being lost in the woods is to sit tight.  Trying to walk your way out is universally considered a bad idea.  Moving around makes you harder to find, and burns precious calories that you need food to replace.

So, you're a liar and you're ignorant.  Good job!


How far have you walked?
In the woods?
In a day?
A week?
A year?
What's your personal basis for knowing all of this?
 
2013-11-04 04:09:54 PM  

George Babbitt: He wasn't ill-prepared


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that anybody who wanders into wilderness "too dangerous for even the hardiest woodsman" for three months with no mechanism for communicating distress or disablement is ill prepared.

If you're going to wander into known-dangerous wilderness against the warnings of others by yourself with no communication to the outside world you should be left entirely to your devices. They should have left him out there. It was a waste of fuel picking him up.
 
2013-11-04 04:10:01 PM  

metatronarchetype: Expended energy needs to be replaced with something; you can't just decide to be tougher than hunger.


You probably cannot.
That's what makes you right at home at a keyboard and not out in the world.

Troll.
 
2013-11-04 04:12:38 PM  

karmaceutical: durbnpoisn: There is a big chunk of this story missing.
He was out there for 3 months, and during that time, he had to eat his dog.  What the hell was he eating the rest of the time?  What happened to ALL of his equipment that it was ruined?  He had a canoe.  So, presumably, he was near water.  Water contains fish.  In Canada, LOTS of fish.  How far downriver was the nearest town?  Why could he not simply repair his canoe and go for a float?  Wasn't that his idea anyway?  What was his original plan?  Canoe for a while, and walk home?

So many things here are woefully wrong and stupid.  The fact that he ate his dog is only one of the things wrong.
It almost sounds like his original plan was to eat the dog and complain about it later.  People would never accept him doing that at home.

Or at least fashioned the remains of his canoe into some kind of paragliding device.  He could have harnessed a pair of freshwater dolphins and glided back to civilization.  What a moron.


Yeah, see?  Now that's some thinkin' right there.
 
2013-11-04 04:12:43 PM  
HotIgneous Intruder:
How far have you walked?
In the woods?
In a day?
A week?
A year?
What's your personal basis for knowing all of this?


My longest hike was ~80 miles over ten days at Philmont scout ranch in 1984.  In mountainous terrain, my well provisioned group of 14-15 year olds had to eat large meals three times a day to keep our energy levels up.  But according to you, an older man with no access to calorie-rich food should be able to turn out 23 mile days in similar terrain with no problem at all!
 
2013-11-04 04:13:01 PM  
if you are going to have a problem killing something, probably best not to name it.

/dog would be screwed if he died anyhow
//or it could of been like 'to build a fire' by jack london
///but probably not
 
2013-11-04 04:13:28 PM  

Electromax: GanjSmokr: Sorry if yours do, but mine don't.

Nah, was mostly just a sarcastic response to the idea that because your dogs are preferable to children, that makes every animal preferable to every child. Plenty of children aren't the problem child you are picturing when you think "a child".

I'm not planning on having any either, but mostly because I'm selfish.


Yea, I'm selfish as well.  And I'll concede that some children aren't as bad as most of the others.  I love my nieces and would do about anything for them.  I'd even save them first from a burning building before my dogs.  Then I'd probably die going back in to try to save my dogs.
 
2013-11-04 04:13:30 PM  

skozlaw: George Babbitt: He wasn't ill-prepared

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that anybody who wanders into wilderness "too dangerous for even the hardiest woodsman" for three months with no mechanism for communicating distress or disablement is ill prepared.

If you're going to wander into known-dangerous wilderness against the warnings of others by yourself with no communication to the outside world you should be left entirely to your devices. They should have left him out there. It was a waste of fuel picking him up.


Some people don't rely on other people to clean up the messes they get themselves into, and some people don't care what kinds of messes people get themselves into and will help them out of it regardless.
 
2013-11-04 04:14:21 PM  
Thousands of people walk 10 or 15 or 20 or 25 miles a day, every day, for six months and they put their experience on the internet for the world to read. Ordinary people do this all the time.
It's not a big deal.

Maybe to certain couch-potato Cheeto-feeding farkers it's inconceivable, but real people do it all the time and so should have this man.

My bet is he's bucking for some publicity in a time when attention whoring is a cultural norm.
 
2013-11-04 04:19:38 PM  

durbnpoisn: karmaceutical: durbnpoisn: There is a big chunk of this story missing.
He was out there for 3 months, and during that time, he had to eat his dog.  What the hell was he eating the rest of the time?  What happened to ALL of his equipment that it was ruined?  He had a canoe.  So, presumably, he was near water.  Water contains fish.  In Canada, LOTS of fish.  How far downriver was the nearest town?  Why could he not simply repair his canoe and go for a float?  Wasn't that his idea anyway?  What was his original plan?  Canoe for a while, and walk home?

So many things here are woefully wrong and stupid.  The fact that he ate his dog is only one of the things wrong.
It almost sounds like his original plan was to eat the dog and complain about it later.  People would never accept him doing that at home.

Or at least fashioned the remains of his canoe into some kind of paragliding device.  He could have harnessed a pair of freshwater dolphins and glided back to civilization.  What a moron.

Yeah, see?  Now that's some thinkin' right there.


I am a very experienced woodsman/gladesman and I have a GED in Bushcraft
 
2013-11-04 04:20:07 PM  
Found it!
i47.photobucket.com

ChipNASA: Shoulda shot the motherf*cker.


Canada is noguns :(  A simple rifle or compound bow would have probably saved this moron a ton of trouble.  For killing the dog humanely if nothing else.
 
2013-11-04 04:20:57 PM  

metatronarchetype: My longest hike was ~80 miles over ten days at Philmont scout ranch in 1984.  In mountainous terrain, my well provisioned group of 14-15 year olds had to eat large meals three times a day to keep our energy levels up.  But according to you, an older man with no access to calorie-rich food should be able to turn out 23 mile days in similar terrain with no problem at all!


Ah. You're one of those.

Hikers usually complete their relational bonding to the outdoors in one of two ways, 1) The Boy Scouts (NTTAWWT), or 2) the military.

Both approaches leave something to be desired. The usual scout troop sounds like a Union Army platoon from the Civil War, clink-clank through the forest. The military types tend to be unimaginative and adversarial in their approach. Neither environment is real conducive to a deeper understanding of what it takes -- and this is a mostly mental understanding -- to succeed in a given situation. I can't count the number of times I've seen these philmont types break apart when deprived of their herd of fellow hikers. One's mind can be a lonely place to spend too much quiet time for these guys.

Whelp, anywho, you don't have the qualifications as an outdoorsman to judge this situation, even if you think you do. Dunning-Kruger and all that, you know.
Cheers, troll!
 
2013-11-04 04:24:45 PM  

George Babbitt: Some people don't rely on other people to clean up the messes they get themselves into


You should submit an article about one of them to counter this article about the douchebag who wandered into the wilderness by himself despite the warnings, killed the dog that saved him initially and then had to be airlifted out once the search party hiked to him and carried him back.

I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that people shouldn't do things like this, but rather THIS GUY IN PARTICULAR obviously shouldn't be based on all the information provided thus far. You don't walk to the tip of nowhere in border country with no way for anybody outside of it to know if you're okay or not. That's just damn irresponsible and this event shows exactly why.

If the dumbass lives he should have to repay the entire amount it cost to rescue him and be barred from ever owning an animal again.
 
2013-11-04 04:34:22 PM  

skozlaw: George Babbitt: Some people don't rely on other people to clean up the messes they get themselves into

You should submit an article about one of them to counter this article about the douchebag who wandered into the wilderness by himself despite the warnings, killed the dog that saved him initially and then had to be airlifted out once the search party hiked to him and carried him back.

I want to make it clear that I'm not saying that people shouldn't do things like this, but rather THIS GUY IN PARTICULAR obviously shouldn't be based on all the information provided thus far. You don't walk to the tip of nowhere in border country with no way for anybody outside of it to know if you're okay or not. That's just damn irresponsible and this event shows exactly why.

If the dumbass lives he should have to repay the entire amount it cost to rescue him and be barred from ever owning an animal again.


But this guy did not signal for help and did not either bring a communication device suitable to make contact, or it was lost somehow in the bear attack, either way, he didn't ask to be helped and was in no condition to refuse help as the articles all said he was incapable of speech when found.
 
2013-11-04 04:34:51 PM  
GanjSmokr:
I'd probably die going back in to try to save my dogs.

We can certainly agree on that score. At least animals never turn into teenagers or need a college tuition. Plus some of my hobbies which may or may not be related to your username don't jive well with children around. Or at least CPS wouldn't think so.
 
2013-11-04 04:36:07 PM  

metatronarchetype: But according to you, an older man with no access to calorie-rich food should be able to turn out 23 mile days in similar terrain with no problem at all!


* That statement establishes that your hiking background does not rise to the level necessary to intelligently surmise what would be possible for a relatively fit and experienced outdoorsman in northwest Quebec under these circumstances.

People who know, know.
This guy's story is exactly that, a story.
A self-induced drama.
 
2013-11-04 05:01:51 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Thousands of people walk 10 or 15 or 20 or 25 miles a day, every day, for six months and they put their experience on the internet for the world to read. Ordinary people do this all the time.
It's not a big deal.

Maybe to certain couch-potato Cheeto-feeding farkers it's inconceivable, but real people do it all the time and so should have this man.

My bet is he's bucking for some publicity in a time when attention whoring is a cultural norm.


Yes indeed, let's compare people hiking the Appalachian trail (and access to the support infrastructure that goes along with it), carrying state-of-the-art equipment and carefully prepared, high-calorie food, to someone not on the Appalachian trail, who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear.  That is a totally fair and reasonable comparison.

It is not like comparing apples to oranges.

Not at all.
 
2013-11-04 05:07:12 PM  
I'd probably eat my dog 10 mins into the trip.

Any excuse will do.

Besides makes sense to eat the dog whilst it is fat and plump rather than wait for dog to get skinny.
 
2013-11-04 05:11:54 PM  

metatronarchetype: George Babbitt: FTA link to the Toronto Sun article on the same story:

Survival expert Andre Francois Bourbeau said Lavoie did what he could to live.
"He survived because he made ‹good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," said Bourbeau, author of a survival guide.
Bourbeau has researched hundreds of similar stories, some of which include cannibalism.
"You have to be desperate, but there's no shame in (eating the dog)," said Bourbeau. "He had to use reason."

See dog lovers?  Even EXPERTS agree that you're foolish retards.

GanjSmokr: My animals are my children.

No, your animals are not your children.  They are your pets.  The fact that you think that your animal pets are your children indicates you probably shouldn't be allowed pets or children, because you are mentally ill.


I had sex with my cat and then she had kittens... they are my kids.
 
2013-11-04 05:21:17 PM  
I hope at a bare minimum that the local SPCA, or Quebecois-equivalent, charge this guy with animal cruelty and get an order that he not be allowed to own a pet ever again.
 
2013-11-04 05:23:21 PM  
You're right, killing a dog to save your life should be a crime.
 
2013-11-04 06:00:46 PM  

metatronarchetype: Yes indeed, let's compare people hiking the Appalachian trail (and access to the support infrastructure that goes along with it), carrying state-of-the-art equipment and carefully prepared, high-calorie food, to someone not on the Appalachian trail, who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear.  That is a totally fair and reasonable comparison.

It is not like comparing apples to oranges.

Not at all.


So we agree that you don't know what you're talking about because you've never bushwacked in the krummholz of Quebec.
Fair enough, troll.
 
2013-11-04 06:05:53 PM  
Stupid dog. If he had been any good he would have killed the bear which they both could have eaten.

Just kidding. He should have fed the dog himself.
 
2013-11-04 06:10:21 PM  
Hope the asshole gets ass cancer.
 
2013-11-04 06:20:06 PM  
He should have had fishing gear and a gun. What a dumbass.
 
2013-11-04 06:20:30 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Yes indeed, let's compare people hiking the Appalachian trail (and access to the support infrastructure that goes along with it), carrying state-of-the-art equipment and carefully prepared, high-calorie food, to someone not on the Appalachian trail, who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear.  That is a totally fair and reasonable comparison.

It is not like comparing apples to oranges.

Not at all.

So we agree that you don't know what you're talking about because you've never bushwacked in the krummholz of Quebec.
Fair enough, troll.


Hey man name-calling is against the rules.

Post a link to your blog about your arctic hiking adventures.
 
2013-11-04 06:24:33 PM  

metatronarchetype: Post a link to your blog about your arctic hiking adventures.


Post a link to your child-porn stash, Boy Scout.
 
2013-11-04 06:25:44 PM  
If there was any justice in the world a pack of wolves would have showed up after he finished his meal.
 
2013-11-04 06:37:02 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: Post a link to your blog about your arctic hiking adventures.

Post a link to your child-porn stash, Boy Scout.


Your well reasoned responses have shown me the light.  If this guy was a real man, he would have taken a bear of his own instead of a dog, and if the bear had died, he would have made wings for himself out of eagle feathers and flown home by sundown.  He would have killed the eagles with a knife he flaked from the locally ocurring flint, a technique he would have perfected over decades in preparation for just this eventuality.  He would not eat the eagles he killed, because his muscles wouldn't actually require energy to perform work.  When he arrived at home, flying there on his eagle's wings without expending any energy, his wife would have lots of sex with him, having seen him demonstrate his real manliness.
 
2013-11-04 06:38:23 PM  
Y'know, it just seems like a betrayal. Still I can't judge the guy, because I wasn't there. I can only think that if I were in his shoes, eating my dog would be the extreme last resort.
 
2013-11-04 06:44:52 PM  
Dude hikes out into the middle of nowhere in extremely rough terrain without any kind of backup plan if things go wrong. But it's just a walk in the park, right Frank? The bear had other ideas. He was unprepared. He choose.....poorly. In short, he's a farking moron and he's lucky to be alive.

RIP Fido. You deserved a better master.
 
2013-11-04 07:01:48 PM  
The fact that the guy didn't have anything to fend off bears means the moron surely didn't plan ahead well enough.

The dog didn't deserve that kind of mis-planning.
 
2013-11-04 07:08:09 PM  

viscountalpha: The fact that the guy didn't have anything to fend off bears means the moron surely didn't plan ahead well enough.

The dog didn't deserve that kind of mis-planning.


You don't know what he had available.  No amount of preparation can guarantee that nothing will go wrong.
 
2013-11-04 07:09:05 PM  
Has there been a listing of the gear that this guy brought with him in one of the many articles that have written about this guy?

BTW, to the Edmund Hillary in this thread who has both cried about name calling and then turned around and name called all butthurt style, cuzyoulovedogsorsomething, bring oxygen on your next trek in the great wilderness of your backyard where you have gained such wild acclaim and expertise to feel justified in calling yourself hiker, just to make sure your brain isn't damaged any further.
 
2013-11-04 07:17:04 PM  

metatronarchetype: No amount of preparation can guarantee that nothing will go wrong.


How would you know?
 
2013-11-04 07:18:34 PM  

viscountalpha: The fact that the guy didn't have anything to fend off bears means the moron surely didn't plan ahead well enough.

The dog didn't deserve that kind of mis-planning.


He did have something to fend off the bear with. He also had an emergency food source. I'd say he planned rather well, cultural taboos notwithstanding.
 
2013-11-04 07:25:06 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: No amount of preparation can guarantee that nothing will go wrong.

How would you know?


If it is your argument that a given amount of planning can remove any possibility of a catastrophe, I would encourage you to support that argument.  I am still waiting for you to support your assertion that you are a gifted outdoorsman.  Your recent strategies of accusing me of being a connoisseur of child pornography were... unconvincing.
 
2013-11-04 07:35:47 PM  

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: metatronarchetype: No amount of preparation can guarantee that nothing will go wrong.

How would you know?

If it is your argument that a given amount of planning can remove any possibility of a catastrophe, I would encourage you to support that argument.  I am still waiting for you to support your assertion that you are a gifted outdoorsman.  Your recent strategies of accusing me of being a connoisseur of child pornography were... unconvincing.


I'm not arguing.
You have badly misunderstood the context of my involvement in this thread and your importance within it that context.
You're a know-nothing, I get that.
Give yourself a break.
It hurts to be sad, but just let the feeling alone and it will pass.
 
2013-11-04 07:39:07 PM  
So you're unwilling or unable to support your assertions and claims of authority.

Your concession is noted.
 
2013-11-04 07:48:49 PM  
There's no argument.
You know nothing about this topic and you called me a liar for stating facts that are commonly known.
The orange dye in the Cheetos has affected your brain.
Now begone.

PLONK. Into the bait bucket with you.
 
2013-11-04 07:58:40 PM  
Okay - judging here (I know, I said I wouldn't do that) - where was the guy's bear bag? I realize that's not a guarantee that you're campsite won't be molested by a bear, but storing your food in sealed bags and hung from a tree (away from your camp) is pretty basic stuff. Bears smell food and the come to check it out...

I dunno - guy ate his dog and I'm just not feeling that.
 
2013-11-04 08:05:44 PM  
If the idiot had only managed to walk two miles a day -- because he was so obviously grooving on his extended outdoor experience -- he could have made it back to a road or town within a month.

/There is no sealing bag that can keep a bear from smelling your food. Their sense of smell is 4,000 times more sensitive than humans -- they smell in 3-D and living color.
 
2013-11-04 08:12:54 PM  
Fark you, dude.  You owed him your life.  That's not how you repay him.

FARK YOU FARK YOU FARK YOU
 
2013-11-04 08:13:46 PM  

metatronarchetype: I hope you get cancer.


Really?  That the best you got?

People who say things like that...it is a reflection of their intelligence and up bringing.

But hey!  You go ahead.  First Amendment rights and all that.
 
2013-11-04 08:20:57 PM  

jackandwater: metatronarchetype: I hope you get cancer.

Really?  That the best you got?

People who say things like that...it is a reflection of their intelligence and up bringing.

But hey!  You go ahead.  First Amendment rights and all that.


It must be hard to breath up there on that high horse.
 
2013-11-04 08:28:39 PM  

metatronarchetype: jackandwater: metatronarchetype: I hope you get cancer.

Really?  That the best you got?

People who say things like that...it is a reflection of their intelligence and up bringing.

But hey!  You go ahead.  First Amendment rights and all that.

It must be hard to breath up there on that high horse.


Why yes, yes it is.  Thanks for asking! :)
 
2013-11-04 08:30:53 PM  
I wouldn't eat my dog.

There's a whole forest full of shiat to eat, first.
 
2013-11-04 08:34:24 PM  
I've personally run 30 miles in a single go (cross country on flat surface in warm weather). I've never hiked any rough terrain. That being said, I'm pretty sure I could make it to some sort of civilization. And from the little I know, doesn't your body need water more than food?
 
2013-11-04 08:53:02 PM  
Ungrateful Prick.
 
2013-11-04 08:55:03 PM  
really, some asshole Quebecer's life is worth one tenth that of a noble dog.

Sorry you lived, asshat.
 
2013-11-04 09:01:39 PM  
so the guy planned on a two month trip..
that would be quite a bit of food..
and the bear ate it...
and was chased by the dog...
so the bear ate two months of food..
sounds like quite a big bear...
two months of food is quite heavy so why didn't he drive the trailer home...
or he had a sled with provisions and was towed by the dog???one dog???
something does not add up here.
 
2013-11-04 09:36:58 PM  
A good dog like that should never be eaten in one sitting.
 
2013-11-04 10:53:37 PM  
Sh*t like this is probably why we think we're alone in the universe. Intelligent beings observe the behavior of the most "advanced" species on this rock and decide that they want nothing to do with us...
 
2013-11-04 11:55:28 PM  
This is why I don't take my dog camping with me. I take my pet cow. Nobody cares when I kill it and eat it, and there's a lot more meat.
 
2013-11-05 12:35:41 AM  
If you cannot live off the land, you have no damned business being that far away from your refrigerator, asshole. Not only did you needlessly kill someone who trusted in your worthless ass, but think about all the shiat you put others through because of your ineptitude.
 
2013-11-05 12:37:26 AM  

China White Tea: But since we're here, you're implying... what? That there is never a situation in which eating a dog is acceptable?


Most people are arguing that there is never a situation where eating one's own dog is acceptable, which I agree with, to an extent. (Life raft, no rescue, 30 days+, sorry pooch) They are right in saying he's an asshole though, it's just too bad another bear didn't show up after he ate the dog.

/Mrs. Brainsick and I have talked about this and agreed we'll never eat our own pets in a survival situation. Neighbors' pets, yes, but not ours.
 
2013-11-05 01:01:06 AM  
What a farking scumbag.
 
2013-11-05 02:18:50 AM  
"He survived because he made good decisions. Eating his dog was one of them," Andre Francois Bourbeau, a survival expert, told The Toronto Sun.

BULLSHIAT!!!!!

Who the FARK told him to go out there in the first place?!?!?!
 
2013-11-05 11:20:12 AM  

metatronarchetype: So you're unwilling or unable to support your assertions and claims of authority.

Your concession is noted.


I've hiked +10 miles over mountainous terrain on an empty stomach before. It isn't a big deal, although when I got home I enjoyed a nice big meal.

I did a similar hike across a glacier.

I'm not in the greatest shape, either.
 
2013-11-05 11:35:48 AM  

NaughtyByNurture: I've personally run 30 miles in a single go (cross country on flat surface in warm weather). I've never hiked any rough terrain. That being said, I'm pretty sure I could make it to some sort of civilization. And from the little I know, doesn't your body need water more than food?


That's not cross-country. That's road running. My cross-country, in high school, was 30 miles through rough terrain. Shirtless, with a gung-ho Marine-bound senior and his lackey swatting us with sticks the whole way.
 
2013-11-05 12:49:10 PM  

Feepit: metatronarchetype: So you're unwilling or unable to support your assertions and claims of authority.

Your concession is noted.

I've hiked +10 miles over mountainous terrain on an empty stomach before. It isn't a big deal, although when I got home I enjoyed a nice big meal.

I did a similar hike across a glacier.

I'm not in the greatest shape, either.


Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.
 
2013-11-05 12:51:11 PM  

metatronarchetype: HotIgneous Intruder: Thousands of people walk 10 or 15 or 20 or 25 miles a day, every day, for six months and they put their experience on the internet for the world to read. Ordinary people do this all the time.
It's not a big deal.

Maybe to certain couch-potato Cheeto-feeding farkers it's inconceivable, but real people do it all the time and so should have this man.

My bet is he's bucking for some publicity in a time when attention whoring is a cultural norm.

Yes indeed, let's compare people hiking the Appalachian trail (and access to the support infrastructure that goes along with it), carrying state-of-the-art equipment and carefully prepared, high-calorie food, to someone not on the Appalachian trail, who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear.  That is a totally fair and reasonable comparison.

It is not like comparing apples to oranges.

Not at all.



What I think is BS about this guys story is this:  ...who lacks equipment and food because it was destroyed and eaten by a bear

Yes, the bear that the dog ran off.  The dog just let the bear stay around and eat ALL of their food and anninilate ALL of their equipment, down to the last cast-rion skillet.  THAT is what's bullsh*t about this a-hole's story.
 
2013-11-05 01:07:05 PM  

metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.


Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.
 
2013-11-05 01:08:44 PM  

Cold_Sassy: THAT is what's bullsh*t about this a-hole's story.


FTFA "Police say they have yet to speak with Lavoie to get details." because he "couldn't speak".

The police generated this story from their own observations. The situation apparently was plain enough to see that they were able to come to this conclusion without the help of Lavoie explaining what happened. It doesn't take much to ruin food, even if the bear leaves behind the majority of the food, yet tears into all of the packaging, it's ALL going to spoil now. And a different person with the expertise to talk on this matter stated FTFA ""Up there, in the Canadian shield, there's little plant life to live off, so he would have been slowly, painfully dying when they found him. It's an amazing feat that he was able to keep himself alive this long with almost no equipment," survival instructor Caleb Musgrave told the Gazette." He had taken supplies to be out there for two months, and was found after having been out there for three months.
 
2013-11-05 02:06:11 PM  

orclover: metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.

Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.


Hey, making false comparisons is a jerk thing to do.  Don't blame me for calling out people who make flawed arguments.
 
2013-11-05 02:12:17 PM  
what a farking pussy

i would have eaten the bear

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2013-11-05 03:38:41 PM  

orclover: metatronarchetype: Oh look, another moron equating a day hike with a warm meal waiting at the end with a bushwack across the Canadian farking Tundra.

Yeaaaa were gonna have to color code you red with "MR. ANGRYPANTS!" as a label.


His self-righteous sense of correctness is so adorable!

But yeah, I was intending to quote this bogus and irrational claim in my response, not compare myself to some old Canadian.

A reasonably fit person cannot walk 10 miles a day without food, especially in the wilderness.  Stop lying.
 
2013-11-05 04:11:17 PM  

hammettman: HotIgneous Intruder: Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.

Yes, THIS.  This farkhead deserves some torment.


Paraphrased: "This article lacks important details about the situation and circumstances which led to the killing of the dog for survival.  I will now make wild accusations about the man from the article even though I just stated that there isn't enough evidence to conclude why things turned out the way they did."
 
2013-11-05 04:52:18 PM  

WhiskeyBoy: hammettman: HotIgneous Intruder: Story is sad because it makes no farking sense.

Did he run out of food before the bear attack?
Did the bear eat his food, then attack him?
Was he lost before the bear attack?
Was he out of food before the bear attack?
What happened to his food?
Did he go into the woods intending to commit suicide?

Sounds like a stupid coward went into the woods and his dog was the victim.

Yes, THIS.  This farkhead deserves some torment.

Paraphrased: "This article lacks important details about the situation and circumstances which led to the killing of the dog for survival.  I will now make wild accusations about the man from the article even though I just stated that there isn't enough evidence to conclude why things turned out the way they did."


Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.
 
2013-11-05 05:02:26 PM  

hammettman: Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.


The dude still managed survive, alone, in the Canadian Shield for three months when he left on the trip with supplies for two months and had much of it destroyed shortly into the trip.

How many of your 5th grade boy scouts(never alone)do you imagine would do so well? None.
 
2013-11-05 05:57:04 PM  

George Babbitt: hammettman: Paraphrased: A farking 5th grade boyscout would be more prepared than the idiot in the article, and probably all the idiots like you who would defend him.  Sorry, no further information needed to determine that he was a jackass and should have died instead of his dog.

The dude still managed survive, alone, in the Canadian Shield for three months when he left on the trip with supplies for two months and had much of it destroyed shortly into the trip.

How many of your 5th grade boy scouts(never alone)do you imagine would do so well? None.


Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.

Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you.
 
2013-11-05 06:22:12 PM  

hammettman: Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.


You're making great leaps and assumptions for which you are not informed as to the realities of this man's capabilities, intent and resources. There are many articles for which you could avail yourself of and no longer rely on the baseless accusations and ignorant evaluations found in this thread.

Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you. Eat your dog when you get hungry and have nothing else to eat, and forget all the animal lovers who don't care how many humans die if it saves a single kitten/puppy, because you will show them when you make it home alive and they can't do anything about the fact that you ate your dog besides whine in an internet forum as the authorities all sympathize with his actions, haven't brought any charges, and are likely not to. Why? Because it was a dog and a man's life was on the line while going through an incredible ordeal and in the process ate his dog to aid in staying alive.

FTFY
 
2013-11-05 06:55:40 PM  

George Babbitt: hammettman: Step 1: Decide that, at your age, perhaps it's best not to venture into the Canadian Shield with a finite set of supplies and no weapon or plan to replenish them should a predictable, and yes, likely, encounter with a wild animal occurs.

You're making great leaps and assumptions for which you are not informed as to the realities of this man's capabilities, intent and resources. There are many articles for which you could avail yourself of and no longer rely on the baseless accusations and ignorant evaluations found in this thread.


Knowing one's limitations is not an assumption, but pretty much the very first thing one should know.  The man went into the wilderness, I assume, to be "at one" with nature.  This is a common, and noble pursuit, but it requires a minimal level of preparation. From the facts at hand, it was obvious he was unprepared, and unfortunately, the dog suffered for his stupidity. He brought the dog not as a backup food supply, but as a companion.  I find fault with the man because he turned on a companion.  If he'd brought a retarded 2nd cousin and ate him for food, would you make the same argument?  (That the higher level intelligence should be allowed to kill for food?)  The man is an ignorant coward and unfortunately Darwin missed a chance to thin the herd.


Step 2: Not have to kill your dog which is smarter than you. Eat your dog when you get hungry and have nothing else to eat, and forget all the animal lovers who don't care how many humans die if it saves a single kitten/puppy, because you will show them when you make it home alive and they can't do anything about the fact that you ate your dog besides whine in an internet forum as the authorities all sympathize with his actions, haven't brought any charges, and are likely not to. Why? Because it was a dog and a man's life was on the line while going through an incredible ordeal and in the process ate his dog to aid in staying alive.
 
2013-11-05 07:10:12 PM  

hammettman: If he'd brought a retarded 2nd cousin and ate him for food, would you make the same argument? (That the higher level intelligence should be allowed to kill for food?)


Intelligence has no bearing on human value in my opinion.

hammettman: From the facts at hand, it was obvious he was unprepared,


A few quotes from the articles:(first one is the easiest)


A Quebec man survived for more than three months in the Canadian wilderness

He survived because he made good decisions.

The 44-year-old is an experienced outdoorsman

planned two-month canoe trek

It's an amazing feat that he was able to keep himself alive this long

It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that

Lavoie is an experienced hiker who often spent weeks in the wilderness by himself.
 
2013-11-05 08:00:54 PM  
Yes yes it's amazing he survived for so long. It really is considering his level of stupidity. His experience let him survive a couple months instead of dropping dead within a week. Fantastic. What was his backup plan? Did he even have one or did the bear eat that too?

What was he planning to do if he bottomed out his canoe on some rocks and ripped a hole in it? What was he planning to do if he got sick or injured? Attacked by bears? Oh wait....

An emergency locator beacon might have been a good idea, especially since he was hiking into rough terrain alone. I know they're expensive but it's cheaper than a funeral(assuming the bears leave anything to be found and buried).
 
2013-11-05 08:35:40 PM  
Damn dog would have starved to death by his master's side without so much as a reproving glance, and this f*ckwad eats him the first time his stomach rumbles... I'm rooting for the bears if he takes any more walkabouts.
 
2013-11-06 01:27:35 AM  
Everybody should know that you need to take along a black guy to scare off the bears.

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